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’ 2 CHRISTIAN" HERALD -A sister writes us from Astoria Use made of raw hides by many of things necessary to salvation, so each for itself. These words cannot be tortured that whatsoever is not read therein, as follows: “ Please find enclosed our forefathers about the time they nor may be proved thereby, is not into the meaning the Herald gives 10 cents for one of your tracts on gained their rights, and hearing the to be required of any man that it them. The great Roman ’ Catholic Dancing. If you know of a good pitiful pleadings of our sister to be should be believed as an article of Church even makes no claim that minister who would like to do a placed on an equality with nien, we faith, or be thought requisite or it, “ contains all the Lord’s people.” Its claim is that it is the only little service for the Lord where it really thought it would be an act of necessary to salvation.” Only so far as the human ele- Christian Church. The Herald “Ts sorely w rnt wuuld ■ k iadly- .banavolencn to nffexher our hide 7 ", .77 «! ' 'f inelltnBeropntrtly . . J . iMilini inlu uilij J i send him down here, I would like for what it was worth, not to tan, Christians interpretation of Scrip wc said it did, and, in our opinion, to receive him as a guest at my but to make her a pair of breeches ! ture language—yours as well as it will not, Thus We correct, not house (I live in the country) and do It will be plenty large, sister, so ours—do we believe in a human what we said, but the Herald for everything to make his stay agree -you need give yourself no uneasi creed. Any man who attempts to saying we said what we did not. The present Editor of the Herald able, and am sure he would be ness about the strength of the ma interpret Scripture has a creed —an “ I believe ” by ’ winch he interprets, is proliably not aware that every amply pajd by the good he would terial. As to the rest of her article and one man’s verbal and unwritten thing he has said on this subject in say, that as she creed is just as “ buinaiT" as another the articles to which-, at anytime, do. The Christian church is "wFlraVitJ scarcely known down here.” We completely fails to either see or an man’s written creed. A man’s the A dvocate has taken exception, swer the points we made, it needs creed is his understanding of what was said in the Herald nearly should have a strong church built the Bible teaches, yet all evangeli three years ago by' its former up in Astoria, and we would be glad no reply from us. If our “ Suffra cal Christians receive the Bible as Editor and Brother S. C. Adams, ■ if stwneW-em» preachers . gist” friends are determined to U. . am Llio miiy the time- to comply .with this sister’s wear the coat, we shall certainly authority. lie has said it, and was then fully invitation. They could doubtless grant them the riqht of doing so, As to the question whether we met by the A dvocate . For that <lo a good work. ...... • - .• at least, so long as we arc not .com “find a Methodist Church in the reason we-have declined to re-tra pelled to don tlie peffi-coatl The Bible’’ we answer: if wc did not verse these questions, only so far as We take pleasure this week in propriety’ of their exercising such a find Methodism there we would not featly to Chtirch relations And our- s introducing to our readers, Bro. J. right and the benefit to be derived lie likely to be a Methodist. And Christian convictions seems to make ; here is the suitable place to enlight imperative. W. Caldwell of West Union, Ky , from it is quite another question. en the Herald as to what Method- It is not likely, unless it seems | who, by special arrangement with ists Lelicve tile ChurcTi tobe, “asit correction i.Tre(juii"e<U"We shalt~rc '"~i us, begins a “ Kentucky’ Depart QUESTIONS ANSWERED. is evidently greatly in the dark on turn to them. To our seeming | ment ” in this issue of the H erald . that subject. there is little of Christianity in J We must be excused for this per “ The visible Church of Christ is assaults on other Christian Church- | We are not personally acquainted haps, tou.lengthy rejoinder to the with Bro. Caldwell, but ”we nearly three columns that the a wngregatiuu.- of Iuithfuljneiu.in es, or other „Cjiristian people,. We. „,7 which the pure word of God is may speak m own defense, but “we j know something of him from his Christian Herald of last week hon preached, and the sacraments duly’ have neither time nor inclination to I work. He is a young man of prom- ored • us with. There arc a few administered, according to Christ s turn our guns on other bodies to 9 ise,*a gooek writer and an. able questions the Herald proposes that ordinance, in all ’these things that" whom we cheerfully yield the -9 pleader of primitive Christianity, we are entirely willing to answer, are of necessity requisite to the claim we make for our own, of and a misstatement or two that we l>eing parts of that great body of $ and hence fully able to conduct, a feel obliged to correct. Our broth same.” This is the clear utterance of which Christ is the Head ; parts of ■3 department in the H erald to profit. er of the Herald asks if we “ find it our “ creed,” Brother Herald,. on “ The Christian Church." Of course we are not to be held re in the Bible that primitive Chris- that subject, and we have the ---------- 9» It It KPI .Y. = sponsible'for all the opinions Bro. tians wore human names by <livin«* temerity to doubt if you can im Out brother of the Advocate k J Caldwell may feel disposed to ex authority’*" We "answer, we do - prove it. hot find that even the name “ Chris The Herald thinks the A dvocate not satisfied with our explanation •< press While we are one on the tian Church ” is given “ by divine fundamental principles of the gos authority.” The word “ Christian ” is aiding to build “ pelts,” as it the other week ; hence the above. | pel as embodied in the cause we is only used three times in the styles denominations, and wants to If he had headed his article “ Ques-| know if it is “ right ” If it is not plead, our opinions arc individual Bible, and always to expreps an in right, brother JZeraM, what are you ,/tions Evaded ” it would have been | property, an.d hence we are dividual life and not a “ Church,” or doing it for ? In the very article much more appropriate, for trulyf assembly; an ecclesia. The name responsible for what wc alone write was probably first given in derisioq which we are now looking at you the Irishman’s plea would make no a and all our scribes are respon by the enemies of Christ, and as a say “ that the body with which we show in even holding a light for tin■ sible for what they write. Our stigma upon his followers. It is [the Herald] are identified number Advocate. Really, after reading] over six hundred thousand in the rule is to allow a pretty free and our judgment that the word “ Chris United States alone.’’ Six hundred the article, we could hardly decide I __ full discussion of questions of inter tian ” was then a very “ human thousand what ? Why, of course, whether to attempt a reply or 1 lean nauio ” in its origin, although it has hearty laugn laugh and ami ■ est, seeing at the same time that become sanctified by the usage as members of your sect; sheep in back and give a nearty _ ______ waste baske^«F _____ nothing detrimental to the cause be one of the terms that express the your “ pen.” There are many times lay the thing in I the six hundred thousand Christian As our brother seems to be on .the | O printed without our prompt atten personal relation of all true belivers people in the United States. Meth t tion. We expect good things from to Christ. Consequently it may odism alone, in its several branches retreat again, we must be in n Bro. Caldwell of our native State. not be properly appropriated by counts nearly ten times that num hurry in order to get in our shot. any “ Church ” as more, or more ber, and time would fail us to tell But wc expect to get him anyway, rightfully theirs, than others. The Mrs. Duniway of the New North Herald can close all debate on that of all the other bodies of Christians. for if our shot fails to take effect, west respectfully declines accepting subject by quoting a single passage Dear Herald, they couldn’t all get like the “ fellows deer,” in his mad ------ our “ hide” “ for what it is worth,” of Scripture, that, without inter into yauru pen.” ------ leaps he wilt jump so high Now, Brother Herald, you do not preting such a meaning into it, on the ground that owing to" our will break his own neck. We print « primitive ideas of the “ Woman gives “ divine authority ” for the stale the fact when you say that his article in full for three reasons ■ “ the A dvocate represents that you Suffrage Movement ” our hide is use he makes of that word as the believe that what is known as the 1. We arc not afraid for ourJ specific name to designate one de not “ worth tanning.” Like the nomination of Christians from Christian Church contains all of the readers to see what he writes. 1 suffragists generally atre, our good another. Lord’s people.” The A dvocate 2. This is fair and honorable® sister failed to see our point. We, a The Herald asks if we “ find never, by statement or Inference, controversy when it can be done ; V did not offer our hide to lie human creeds in the Bible, or any made any such representation. nothing else is. w1 This is What we said : • rule of faith and practice for the 3. The truth shows to best ad-Ki “ tanned,” for seeing it has been in Lord’s people save the Bible only ?” • Of course we are aware of the vantage when contrasted with error. I use for aliout thirty-one years with This is the steadfast and unuttera Herald's d's little littje delusion ______ that ___ _____ his is We don’t doubt that out t< out tanning it does not need it. ble faith of Methodism on that sub „the oi nly Christian Church. His But as our “primitive ideas,” ject : happens to be one of two or three “nearly three column rejoinder” ]j “ The Holy Scriptures contain all, little bodies that make that claim H was too much for the Advocate; q brought up vivid recollections of the * K. J 1 I