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MtDFOHD MAIL TRIBUNE, MEDFORD. OREGON Valley Residents Crowd Room To Hear United Nations Debate TUESDAY. MAY 14. 1963 Rogue River vallcv resi dents, representing numerous religious faiths and at least two political party affiliations crowded the Jackson House t dining room Monday noon for the debate on "The United JMations - Right or Wrong," sponsored by the Jackson county chapter, Oregon unit ed Nations association. ' Dr, Urban Whitaker, asso ciate professor ot internation al relations, San Francisco State college, spoke for con tinuation of the United Na tions, and Leslie Fleming, Eu- ' gene, coordinator for the John Birch Society for the area south of Eugene, opposed the organization, describing it as Communist dominated. "To oppose the United Na tions is to oppose something very -American," Dr. Whitaker told his audience after urg ing the persons present to think of the "United Nations in the plural, not the singular tense. As a they,- not an it. A group of nations banded together to talk and to act. Whether they agree, or dis agree, it is a gopd thing," Whitaker declared. . . : "If the Russians are bad, It is better to have them in the United Nations where we can know what their re sources are and what they are going to do with them. All nations get the facts more quickly and more efficiently in the United Nations," he said. If the realities' are known, war could many times be averted, the speaker Indi cated. "Maybe Hitler wouldn't have attacked if he had known we could and would arm to defeat him," the professor ex plained, stressing his point that it is better to know who "our friends are" by having all inside the association. Fleming, taking the oppo site view, presented the Unit ed Nations as something very un-American, an organization formed by a "bunch of spong ers" with 90 per cent of the money spent coming from the United States. "The Communists mean to take over the world," Flem ing opened his remarks, "This is a true statement of fact by the top Communists. They spell it out in their writings. In 1945 in Bombay the Com munists issued their inten tions to take over the United Nations. To take it over through revolutionary parlia mentarianism. A close exami nation of votes shows you they are taking it over. From 1945 on, piece by piece, step by step, they have been tak ing over," he said. Fleming advised his listen ers to read "Not A Shot Was Fired," which tells the story of the conquering of Czecho slovakia. - - "To say the United Nations charter is American is com pletely false. It is strictly for one-world government, Fleming argued. "I agree we need a forum but we can't have one with Russia in it. While we strive for peace, they strive for conquest. If you want democracy let the people deal with people not authorities with authorities. Look at the United Nations with your eyes clear, not through the drool of humani- tarianism." Simply Not True In reply, Dr. Whitaker stat ed: "Many things Fleming has said are simply not true. Members of the John Birch Society are addicted to dis tortions. They are against freedom of discussion. That is why they make so many mistakes. ' Reading from the John Birch Blue Book by Robert Welch, Dr. Whitaker pursued his contention that the John Birchers do not believe in Democracy, but in "complete authoritative control at all levels. In the Day's News By FRANK JENKINS Try and Stop Mc -By BENNETT CERF- A YOUNG PLAYWRIGHT scored an unexpected bit with an off-Broadway production, and suddenly affluent, decided to make his first visit to Paris. As a first step, he enroueo. in a course guar anteed to 'teach French In twenty lessons. It soon became apparent, however, that he had no ' car for foreign languages. After a fortnight of tra vail he not only quit the ' class, but abandoned his plan to fly abroad. "My job now is reversed, he assured his manager. "All I've got to do is FORGET one French word a day. My word to forget today is MERCL" - A husband and wife wanted to buy a home fat the suburbs, but were appalled by the prices asked for same. The real estate salesman finally told them, "I do remember a house up In Xatonah that was offered at six thousand dollars. Shall we drive up there and see if it's still standing?' . - In El Paso they talk about a resident who drove all day In 105 degree temperature with every window of his car closed tight, then collapsed of prostration when he got home. "Why didn't you open the windows?" wailed his wife. "What?" he protested weakly, "and let everybody knew we haven't got an air-conditioned car?" 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While this effort met the same fate as others before it, the debate had the effect of breaching the indefinite post ponement wall, which re quires a two-thirds majority 40 votes in the 60-member House - to overcome. The immediate effect, how ever, is only to change the fo cal point of the conflict from the House to the House taxa tion committee, where there is a 6-3 majority AGAINST a sales tax. TT RATHER looks like Ore- gon is dead set against a sales tax, doesn't it? rn IS it? " Let's look at some figures. The last time Oregon voted on a general sales tax was in 1947. It went down to defeat by a popular vote of 67,514 yes to 180,333 no. That was a ratio of 2.7 to 1 In the popular vote. Last week the Oregon House of Representatives vot ed 34-26 against referral of a sales tax to the Oregon elec torate. That is a ratio of only 1.3 to 1. Could it be that sentiment against a sales tax in Oregon is declining? THESE words are written, and will be read, in South ern Oregon. If any place, anywhere, should oppose a sales tax, it should be the towns and the cities of Southern Oregon. California has a sales tax. Oregon has none. Lack of a sales tax in Oregon brings a very considerable volume of trade, running into big fig ures over the period of a year, from over the border in California. People love to escape a tax. It Just could be that if Ore gon should overcome its long time prejudice against the principle of a sales tax the towns and the cities along the Oregon-California border in the south and along the Ore gon-Washington border in the north might lose quite a lot of business. So this isn t a plug for a sales tax in Oregon. Down here In the southern part of the state, we need all the busi ness we can get. That, pre sumably, is equally true of the towns and cities along the Oregon-Washington border. Idaho has no sales tax. Ne vada has a sales tax, but the Oregon-Idaho border is rather thinly settled. THE sales tax is VERY pop ular - if it can be said that any tax is popular. Ac cording to the best informa tion available as this is writ ten, 39 of our 50 states have some form of sales tax. Why this popularity? The answer is rather sim ple. THE sales tax is ALWAYS PAID UP. There is no anx ious scratching of the bottom of the barrel when comes the grim hour when you must dig up your share of the cost of government. That, presumably, explains why 39 of our 50 states have sales taxes. There is an an cient tax principle that goes something like this: "That tax is best which sets the most feathers from the goose with the least amount of squawk ing." The sales tax docs just that. Advertliement Husbands! Wives! Get Pep.Vim; Feel Younger tfcauu- cwii art wik.tif, MMt-jt.n- ...4.4 latti tff fur a iwm rH ft, 40 0O.tryOl!rtlT,KTt t!1.CA ta tnm tor a... rfv, I'M Vitt""f1 HMictM.liUM riattilm.1ti a 14 afawf. tXtow-caiM-aari-raaca. tMf "The Society must not be weakened by raging debate," he read from the book, "We believe on the con trary that the Democratic process is the greatest weap on," Dr. Whitaker added, then proceeded to answer Flem ing's statement that Alger Hiss had written the United . Na tions charter and that the United Nations was domi nated by the Communists. "The charter was written by five persons appointed by President Roosevelt. There are 1,311 persons employed by the United Nations. 355 of them are from the United States and 44 from the USSR, or 3 per cent. I go to the United Nations regularly sev eral times a year so I know what I am talking about," Whitaker summarized his an swer. Fleming then contended that Welch recommends the reading of 300 books and list ed as Communistic a group of countries and leaders, in cluding Dr. Ralph Bunch. As he listed the countries, he hesitated and Whitaker completed the list' for him with "Cuba", apparently fa miliar with Fleming's debate material. Other countries list ed by Fleming were Brazil, Venezuela, British Guiana and the Dominican Republic. Dr. Whitaker refused to lot the insinuation against Dr. Bunch pass and demanded to know where Fleming got his impression that "Dr. Bunch was pro-Communist." "From the number of Com munist fronts he has joined," Fleming replied and proceed ed to class socialists along with Communists. "If the Communists do in tend to take over the United Nations," Dr. Whitaker main tained, "that is all the more reason we should stay in there, why we should not get out. We have never lost a major vole. We have success fully defeated the Russians on every major issue. I be lieve in our Democracy, in our system and I think we should stay in there and keep fighting." Answering Fleming's criti cism of the United States gov ernment for trusting ex-communists, Whitaker asked if the John Birch Society didn't have ex-communists in high places. Fleming answered "We do have ex-communists. But we know they arc good because they tell us all they know. They do not use the fifth amendment." Fleming then charged that Cuba was lost during the Eisenhower administration be cause of state department ac tion. "I call it treason," he de clared. "I'm calling it treason to our country.", Asked if he meant to charge Dulles and Eisenhower with treason, Fleming hesitated, then answered that he meant the people they had appoint ed to sit in high places. As the discussion in the question and answer period continued to stray farther and farther from the stated sub ject, Omar Bacon, librarian, rose to the point of order by asking what the speakers pro posed as a substitute for the United Nations. Dr. Whitaxcr said he did not propose a substitute be cause he wanted to see the United Nations continue. Fleming said he would like to see it replaced by a "group of people who believe in the rights of individuals not gov ernments." In conclusion, Whitaker de clared: "If you like our sys tem, you should like to argue against the communists. I be lieve in it. Let's advertise it." The speakers were intro duced by Roy Ncal, president of the Jackson County chap ter of the Oregon United Na tions association. MEDFORD INSURANCE AGENCY and THE R. A. HOIMES AGENCY ' Have Moved To 25 West Main Fred R. Brennan Lowell A. 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