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g Candidates' Talks (Editor's note: The fol lowing, story it reprinted from the Coos Bay World, and describes a debate be tween Congressman Charles O, Porter, Democrat seek ing reelection, and William Tugman, representing Dr. . Edwin Durno of Medford, Porter's opponent, It is re printed here because it represents an exhaustive re porting job on a debate affecting both candidates -a situation which has not yet materialized in this area, although Porter and Durno are scheduled to ap pear tonight in the Jackson ville community hall to dis cuss mining, and will de bate each other at the League of Women Voters' Candidates' Fair Oct. 20. Tugman, former editor of . the Eugene Register-Guard and former editor and pub lisher of the Port Umpqua Courier on Oct. 10 will join the paid staff of Dr. Durno's campaign commit: tee as public relations man ager.) By FOREST AMSDEN Executive Editor, The World What had beert designed as a debate on federal aid to edu cation between Congressman Charles O. Porter (D-Orc.) and his Republican opponent for Congress, Dr. Edwin Durno of Medford, turned out instead to be a general issi.e debate between Porter and Durno's publicity man - retired news paper publisher William Tug man - last night before the Coos Bay Education Assn. The discussion, at times spirited and tinged with sar casm, ranged from federal aid to education to the state of the South Jetty on the Umri qua bar, near Reedsport. Tug man Is from Gardiner. Federal aid did get the lion's share of Porter's com ment in his opening state ment. He said federal aid to edu cation is important to the de fense of the nation and to the general welfare - because edu cation is itself important in Sawdust S&H GREEN STAMPS Medford Fuel Co. 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Ten mil lion students are affected by these shortages nationally -20,000 of them in Oregon.;1 . "We do not have a total committment t o education," the congressman said. "I think we should have. Educators who have gone to Russia re turn to say they feel the So viet Union is totally commit ted to education." An important reason for federal aid, - he said, is that "the dollars we use for edu cation now are almost wholly taken from property taxes -which do not generally re flect the increase in incomes and standards of living. Right now, you all know, voters are beginning to resist bond is sues and outside -limitation budgets." Parties Agree He said both political- par ties agree that federal aid is necessary - "although my op ponent disagrees even with his party here: he's against federal aid" - with Republi cans saying federal aid should be for school construction only, and Democrats saying the money should be channel ed through the states, with each state deciding whether its grants should be for school construction, teachers' salar ies, or both. "I'd accept the Republican proposal - of aid for construc tion only - if that's the best we can get," Porter said. "But unfortunately we couldn t get even that through the Rules Committee of the House in the last session' with all Re publicans members voting against it." He said the federal govern ment had aided education for many years, that it is "nothing Oranges A IMV7 'y00 '4 . . Develop new." He cited tha Morrill Act establishing land grant col leges and other legislation down to federal aid to impact ed school districts at present. He asserted the administra tion costs of federal aid would be no greater than 2 per cent. Tugman disagreed with this cost estimate. He thought it would be higher. . . . "The big boogey man In this argument," Congressman Porter said, "is the claim that federal aid means federal con trol of schools. "This simply is not so. It hasn't been so In many other fields of aid and all federal education aid legislation spe cifically carries pro visions against it," he said. But Porter said federal aid "is only one of the important issues which , should be dis cussed by my opponent and me. It is part of our compe-. tition for your vote in No vember. I find it difficult to 'find' my opponent on these issues. I think we should talk about these things face-to-face: medical aid for the aged, liberalized home financing, aid - to - education the Sand VAX v,r.. 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Into General Topic Dunes Seashore Park: the great foreign policy issues like the turning of Castro to the Reds because of our policies, increasing c om munications with China, and others." Tugman, who began by say ing he still favors the Dunes Seashore proposal although his candidate, Durno, is op posed to it, said the trouble with federal aid to education is "federal control." "You will rue the day," Tugman said, "that you turn your school over to the bureaucrats. They will get you so bogged down in red tape you wont know where you are." He reminisced about a trip he made to Washington, D.C., during PWA days, say ing he fpund inefficiency and disregard for the peoples' right to. make up their own minds.' ' - Durno 'Liberal1 '.He said his candidate, Ed win Durno, "is a Republican but he s a liberal. He has an open mind. That Is true lib eralism, not the narrow cult of social issues.1 Tugman said although Dur no opposes federal aid to edu IP 111 -it, , r, ' 1 sr a Sample Burgerbits for the Pup FRIDAY and SATURDAY Foods Qf. pjjJi ' ; 10 ib, 89' 111 Crocker " for Cats 5 cans 59c WHIFF. Mary Ellen 4 Favorites Peanut Butter Hoody,2 cation, he appreciates the problems of education. "He believes in home rule, although in the Legislature he supports state aid up to about 50 per cent of the basic sup port fund. It was Durno who made the motion which broke the deadlock to get a 9 per cent increase in college teach ers' pay in the Legislature,. He helped pass the commun ity college law. As a member of the Fiscal Committee he helped work out the report on better usage - of college classrooms and labs in Ore gon. He was instrumental in getting an appropriation for Portland's educational TV sta tion. "You cannot truthfully say," Tugman said, "that a man who had a part In these a c c o m plishmenU is against education. . He knows your problems . and he wants to conquer them. But he wants to do if efficiently." Porter 'Irresponsible' Tugman said all issues cen ter on foreign policy. "Here the performance of Charles O. Porter has been utterly ir responsible. In the area of domestic policy, such as our ports and forests, he has been to say the least, ineffectual. "In the area of foreign pol icy," he said, "Dr. Durno wants to aid the President -whoever he may be - and not trespass upon the constitution al grounds of the executive. D o m e s t i cally, Dr. Durno stands for no rash promises . He said Durno is "for medi cal care. But he does not want to make it death bed care for the aged. His pro gram is broader than the Forand Bill. He sees the prob lem as a broad one. He wants to call upon the states and local governments , to keep the elderly usefully employed so they won't worry them selves into their death beds," Tugman said. Porter replied to this point by saying the Republican plan, which his opponent en dorses, would provide aged medical care as a charity, in volving taking a pauper's oath, and would be paid for out of tax funds, whereas the Democratic plan would be self - financing under social security. Tugman said a basic issue of the campaign is "How come Porter wants .to coddle Mao?" FRUITS and PEELS 10 2 5 '. 5 cans M M V 89' ,189' W -'10'.. 1 303 100 S cans 303 too cans I I vV Debate He said dealing with dic tators began under the Roose velt and Truman regimes and was continued by the Eisen hower Administration. "You have to deal with Franco and other unsavory characters," Tugman said, "because there was no one else to deal with." In reply, Porter said "How do you regain moral leader ship by coddling Batista, Fran co, and Chiang? No, I agree with ex-Gov. Munoz-Marin of Puerto Rico: a formal hand shake for dictators and a warm embrance for demo crats. "I believe in the elementary wrong of governments based on force and fraud, as in China and elsewhere, but we've got to deal with them all. "A congressman has a right and duty to criticize the ad ministration and I shall con tinue to do it," he said.' Lodge and Franco ' "What did the buddy-buddy attitude toward Franco of our ambassador to Spain- the brother of Cabot Lodge - do to us in the eyes of millions of Frenchmen and ' Italians who regard him as a despot? Sure we " ha ve to deal,-with Franco, but we don't have to appear to like him or other dictators and think they are our great friends,' Porter said. "We don't have to praise Chiang's government in For mosa as 'a thriving democ racy,' as President Eisenhow er did." . . . ' In answer to a question of whether he favored "recogni tion" of Red China, Porter said, "I say we need in creased communication with Red China because it is the most dangerous nation in the world with no oil and land, and it is about to explode, and we may, through negoti ations, be able to make ad justments. Maybe we won't, but maybe we will. Second, we need effective disarma ment and we can't have it without Chinese disarmament and inspection stations in China; and we can't get those without Chinese participation in negotiations." Tugman maintained Porter was ineffective in getting re pair funds for the Umpqua South Jetty. He said Portec did not succeed in getting funds for the project in the House (the item was not in the President's budget), and SILVER DOLLAR STAMPS BUY A CANNED HAM 100 Extra With Any CAN Of HAM THURS. - FRT. - SAT NO COUPON NECESSARY Lyn H Eastside Can't Be Beat for Price and Quality Fresh Pork to Bar-B-Q Sparer. bs Bake Ib. 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The girl had been before juvenile authorities for when the Senate put $180,000 in for construction, the sum was cut back to $30,000 in conference, committee. , Porter questioned Tugman's understanding of the "legisla tive process," a point heated ly denied by Tugman. "I knew about the legislative process before you were born," he explained. The congressman said the Umpqua project absorbed his total effort to get funds out side the President's budget last year. "In conference with Army Engineers, I decided to try to get $30,000 for ad vanced planning and that is exactly what we got - be cause I managed to talk House members of the confer ence committee into going for that sum in discussions with the Senate," Congress man Porter said. Tugman said his candidate, Durno, "gave up a profitable medical practice" to run for Congress and serve the public. He said he was a farm boy who grew up "in the tradi tions of thrift and hard work." He said he was an infantry man in- World War I and a combat surgeon in World War II. He said although the Con gress will probably be Demo cratic next year, Republican Durno has proven "he can even work with Democrats" by his service in the State Senate where he made "a splid record." , He said Democratic State Senate President Walter Pear son termed Durno "the out standing freshman legislator in my government experi ence." ' Meat ib. Favorite icx; wne rouna ICxTI Two Pounds fc?S4 NECESSARY RSl n I A A A A:i l 1 IwjJiM It $-09 refusal to accept parental di rection, failure to keep rea sonable hours, and associat ing with undesirable compan ions. When the girl was of pre school age she was accident ally burned seriously causing the family to sell all family furniture and belongings to pay for her doctor bills and hospitalization. Their resent ment fell on the girl and they mistreated and abused her, Sister Germaine said. 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