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4 Tuesday, March 10, 1959 MAIL TRIBUNE, MEDFORD, ORE. "Everyone it Southern Oregon Reads The Mail Tribune" Published Daily except Saturday by MJ.DFORD PRINTING CO. 33 North Fii St Ph SP 2-6141 ROBERT W RUHL. Editor KERB GREY Advertising Manager GERALD LATHAM. Business Mr ERIC W ALLEN JR. Managing Kditor EARL H ADAMS, City Editor HARRY CHIPMAN. Teieg Editor RICHARD JEWETT Sports Editor OLIVE ST ARCHER Women's Editor DALE ERICKSON Circulation Mgr An Independent Newspaper Entered as second class matter at Medforrt Oregon under Act ol March 3 1897 SUBSCRIPTION RATES By Mat 1 In Advance. Copy 10c. Dail" and Sunday 1 year $15 00 Dailv and Sunday 6 mos 8.00 Dailv and Sunday 3 mos 4.23 Sunday Only One year S4.20 By Carrier In Advance Medford. Ashland. Central Point. Eagle Point. Jacksonville. Gold Hill, Phoenix Shady Cove Rogue Riv er. Talni and on motor routes Dailv and Sunday 1 year $18.00 Daily and Sunday 1 mo 1.50 , Carrier and Dealers copy 10c All Terms Cash in Advance Official Paper of City of Medford Official Papei of Jackson County United Press Internationa Full Leased Wire MEMBER OF AUDIT BUREAU OF CIRCULATION Advertising Representative: WEST -HOLIDAY CO. INC Of fices in New York. Chicago. De troit, San Francisco. Los Angeles. Seattle. Portland St. Louis. At lanta. Vancouver B.C NEWSPAPER PUBLISHERS ASSOCIATION NATIONAL EDITORIAL t r ASSpCHTItolN! S3! Flight 'o Time Medford and Jackson County History from the files of The Mail Tribune 10, 20, 30, 40 and 50 years ago. 10 YEARS AGO March 10, 1949 (Thursday) Circuit Judge Orval Millard lays down the law in the Ash land mayor-council controver sy but says it is up to the citizenry to decide whether those involved acted capri ciously or in good faith. A total of 223 persons at tended an orientation course for Camp White Domiciliary volunteer workers. 20 YEARS AGO March 10. 1939 (Friday) A U.S. Army observation plane noses over when it lands in a muddy section of Medford airport, but the only injury entailed is slight. From Arthur Perry's "Ye Smudge Pot" column: "Mole hills are plentiful on residen tial lawns, with no engineer ing genius handy to make mountains out of them." 30 YEARS AGO March 10. 1929 (Sunday) "Wild flowers are in bloom In the hills. Oak Grove residents plan a meeting to 'form a water dis trict. 40 YEARS AGO March 10. 1919 (Monday) Prosecutor Roberts orders the jitney line to stop using a 16-year-old boy as a driver. Grants Pass plans to pay a call on the Medford Commer cial club. 50 YEARS AGO March 10. 1909 (Wednesday) Southern Pacific railroad pays the county its annual taxes, in the amount of over 48,000. Ashland citizens, reinforced with some from Medford, plan to visit the Legislature and defend the perpetuation of the normal school. Whal's Your I.Q.? Nine or ten eorreet is superior; leven or eight is excellent; five or six is good. 1. Which famous French actress was called "The Divine Sarah"? 2. At what school is the well known Flirtation Walk? 3. What animal is popularly said to have "nine lives"? 4. The distance between the earth and the moon var ies: true or false? 5. Name the fictional Negro character created by Joel Chandler Harris. 6. Exclusive of ties, what is the largest number of games that can be played in the World Series? 7. What is the antonym of synonym? 8. Correct the following: "He is smarter than any man." 9. Is bourbon whisky named for a Royal family, a special type of bottle, or a county in Kentucky? 10. Was it Harold Ickes, Henry Clay. Daniel Webster or Herbert Hoover who said, "I would rather be right than President"? Answers: 1. Sarah Bern hardt. 2. U.S. Military Acad emy. 3. Cat. 4. True. 5. "Uncle Remus." 6. Seven. 7. Antonym. 8 He is smarter than any other man. 9- County in Ken tucky, lnenry Clay. The site of Pittsburgh, Pa., Vhosen in 1753 by oeorge was chosen fa Wasmngi""-- . tv there. Billboard Law Needed The Oregon Roadside council is about the only Oregon organization which is making it its business to lobby in favor of legislation which would regulate (not eliminate) the use of bill boards along Oregon's highways. There are two such bills already introduced into the legislature, one in the house and one in the senate. Either would serve as a basis for rea sonable regulation. Up to this point, the legislature has shown little disposition to do much of anything about either of them. "THE Roadside council needs the help of anyone who believes that tax-built highways should not provide a captive audience for the billboard advertisers particularly when ' the billboards create a blot in front of an otherwise scenic vista. (Billboard lobbyists argue against such regu lation by saying the industry will "police" itself. Anyone who has watched the steady encroach ment of billboards on the Baldock freeway be tween Salem and Portland will know that this is a lot of hot air.) Those who agree that reasonable regulation of billboards, in conformity with the federal law which would grant Oregon a bonus in highway construction funds for such regulation, is im portant, should let his representatives in the leg islature know about it. TPHE measures will not end billboard advertis A ing. They apply only to interstate highways (Nos. 30 and 99). They would permit informa tional signs, and signs advertising roadside bus inesses. But they would also protect one of Oregon's greatest resources, its unmatched sceneiy, which is one of the biggest attractions to Oregon's No. 3 industry, the tourist trade to 'say nothing of the enjoyment of those of us who already live here and have watched billboards blot out more and more of our state's beauties. E.A. Letters From Japan For some reason with which we are not fa miliar, letters have been arriving at an increasing pace in this country from young people in Japan. The Mail Tribune has received three in the past week or so. One of them was published in our "Communications" column a couple of weeks ago. TWO of the three letters were identical even to gramatical errors and misspellings except for the name and address of the writer. One of them was from Kyoto, the other from Nagaoka. All three were addressed to the "Mall Tribune." The identical ones both made reference to the "Youth Council for International Contact," which presumably is the reason for the increased number of letters, and perhaps which even sup plied a "form" letter for youngsters to copy. The two each solicited letters from young people in this country because "I always wanted to make some friends in your country through letter-writings. But I did not know how to do it." ARE all for international correspondence, " and see no harm, even in the rather remote possibility that the "Youth Council for Interna tional Contact" has ulterior motives. We know nothing about that organization, but assume it to be a perfectly bona fide one. Here are the addresses of the two would-be pen-pals: Toyotake Imai 355 Sakasita-sho, Nagaoka-shi Nugata-ken, Japan (A 14-year-old boy) Teruko Hasegawa 54 Saikaishi-cho Awata, Higashiyama-ku Kyoto, Japan (A 17-year-old girl) If any Jackson county young people wish to correspond with' them, it would make an inter esting hobby. TTHE third letter is in a different class, although x it also is from a youngster, and also was ad dressed to the Mall Tribune. She wants to come to the United States. Her letter follows: Dear Sir: I am a Japanese girl, age 16, studying in the girls high school and which is the most well-known mission school here and the new Japanese Princess Michiko graduated from this grade school. I am so much interested to be educated in your country. But alas! We Japanese are not allowed to change yen to dollar for the regulation even we have enough yen. So please forgive me to ask you such a selfish, might-be rude for you, request. That is this. If you could ever help me to find such a kind person who will let me study in state, and will take care of least expense for instance, tuition and boarding. Of course I'll work some side job and will earn some pocket money. Because, I have a teaching license of Japanese flower arrangement and Japanese em broider. Just as I expressed my desire before," I would like to go to America for study, even in a short period. If you ever ask to somebody and ever find such a kind and generous person, I'll be very, very happy. Thanks again, if you read my such letter from the my heart. I can hardly wait for your answer. Very Sincerely, - Miss Hina Ishii 7-1051 Hiratsuka Shinagawa-ku Tokyo, Japan. We find these letters appealing and just a poignant, and pass them along for whatever J . , 1 JJ 4.1 T? A , . . blt 1 uac oui reauus may wish cu iuciac ux uiem. Dennis the DCfrJT WORPy 'BOOT CHA9IN" YA. 1 WONT Matter of Fact THE MAMMOTH COOKCUT Washington-The scene was the beach of Santa Rosa Is land, off the California coast. The time was about 29,000 years ago. The people on the beach were probably pret ty nasty, brut ish and rude, at least by our modern deo dorized stand- a An xu 4ospb AJsop aras. .fin uie same, they were already in dulging in an authentic Amer ican pastime. They were having a cook-out-that awful pleasure un avoidable in their era, but still strangely popular in our own. As in the best Texas cookouts, moreover' ' the thing being cooked was big game. Several eons earlier, the rising seas had trapped a race of ma- moths on Santa Rosa. Time and short rations on the island had dwarfed the race. So this was a dwarf mammoth cook out. As in all cookouts, the method of cuisine was impor tant. In brief, the dwarf mam moth was torn into bits; and the flesh was entirely remov ed from the larger bones. The flesh was left, however, on the ribs, vertebrae and other small bones, which were too difficult to strip with flint tools. The resulting primitive filets and spare-ribs were then grilled in a big fire area pre pared on the beach. EVEN a dwarf mammoth was a sizable animal, standing six feet at the shoul der. Unless the tribe was very large, everyone could eat to repletion. Repletion, in turn, no doubt produced the usual results. No one bothered to clean up the mess. Hence the mess was still there until just the other day, waiting to be examined by Dr. Philip Orr, of the Santa Bar bara Natural History Museum, Dr. Wallace Broecker, of Co lumbia, and Dr. George Car ter, of Johns Hopkins. The creatures nature kills are not naturally disarticulat ed. Forest fires do not char just ribs and vertebrae, and leave thigh bones untouched. Animals do not build fire areas for their feasts. In com bination, therefore, the sever al peculiarities of the mess on Santa Rosa Island's beach spelled Man to the assembled doctors. Dr. Broecker took some of the charred bone and charcoal back to Columbia. He got a radio-carbon date be yond 27,000 B.C. for the very early Americans who so con siderately left their mess be hind, to announce their for mer existence to their succes sors in this age of anxiety. Most of the curious and agreeable facts were a sort of by-product of a gloomy in quiry about radioactive fall out. The inquiry was address ed to Dr. Willard Libby, as a sort of farewell before his ex pected departure from the Atomic Energy Commission. Dr. Libby is the inventor of Carbon-14 dating-the method of measuring the age of an cient organic remains by test ing for radioactive carbon. It turned out that Dr. Libby much preferred talking about Carbon-14 instead of Stronti- um-90. Running on Carbon-14, the talk revealed what ought to be major news, at any rate to those Americans who are as untutored as this reporter. TN BRIEF, American history - is now getting longer and longer. Until quite recently the experts would not allow a single day more than 10 millenia for the story of Man in America. Some scholarly curmudgeons even said that mankind only came to our hemisphere about 5,000 years ago. Ours was a short, short story, in fact, until the expert calculations first began to be upset by the discovery of the flint weapons known as Fol- Menace THAT OL CAT , TBIL AfflBODS Ev Joseph Alsop som points. And now our his tory's time-corset has abso lutely come apart at the seams, because of Carbon-14 dating. The date for the dwarf ele phant cookout is only one among several that have burst the time-corset-many of them, it must be added, violently disputed. There is the Tule Springs ite, with its Carbon 14 date of 23,800 years ago. There are the new Mojave Desert campfire sites, discov ered by Dr. Ruth Simpson of the Museum of the Southwest in Los Angeles. Dr. Simpson says firmly that the flints in tese sites are "typologically closely similar to the Euro pean Lower Paleolithic peri od." There is the Sandia Cave discovery, with a date a little earlier than Tule Springs. There are the hearths of a camel-eating people (strong stomachs they must have had!) that were found near Dallas. Texas being Texas, the Hum ble Oil companys' laboratories made those particular tests, and got a date more than 38, OOOyears before our era. Final ly, there are the campfires and the seeming-tools found by Dr. George Carter in the middle of San Diego City, which have a date a couple of thousands years earlier still than the hearths of the camel eaters. THE more conservative J- scholars in the field .are not all happy about all this Although most of them cannot absolutely reject Sandia Cave and the hearths of the camel eaters, they do not fully ac cept even these dates; and they sternly reject most of the other early dates. They cling, indeed, to the short, short American story they have al ways believed tn. As Dr. Rob ert Heiser of Berkeley sadly but typically put it, "A quite new interpretation of Ameri can pre-history needs more evidence." All the same, this reporter is against Dr. Heiser. Prome theus-Man has now invented weapons that can conceivably bring this end of our history, the H-bomb end of history as you might call it, to a loud, sudden, dead stop. In this situation, it is oddly consoling to think that our history is constantly growing at the other end, the flint chopper end, when Man began his bold adventure on this continent. (Copyright 1959. New York Herald Tribune, Inc.) Communications Sunday Ride To the Editor: As mention ed in Sunday's Mail Tribune of the still popular chicken dinner for that day, ours we were invited to was young turkey, not much larger than a big chicken, but with the usual toothsome stuffin', mashed potatoes'n gravy and other dishes endeared to American ways of life as was the following Sunday ride that the MT reported as be coming a memory in some large cities It is, as mentioned, so easy here to quickly leave the city environs, and we were doing a roller-coaster by the Charley Hoover lakes where fair catches of cat fish were being obtained till a breeze rippling the water stopped cat fish fishing pronto. It seemed odd that all this was just a part of flat table-land from moun tain range to mountain range but for 'better-grass" Hoo ver's imagination and exten sive work. But just eastward, we drop ped into the rough land and twisting road of Antelope creek, through the two old covered bridges 'and on to where our host pointed out the home of old-time Yankee Creek Smith whose fog-horn voice carried a mile and a half and much more when the air was right. The general di Munich, Once Hitler's Shrine, Prosperous City of One Million By PHIL NEWSOM UPI Foreign News Editor Munich, Germany. - (LTD - The bricks show through where the stucco finish has fallen away from the walls of the jeer hall made famous A Adolf Hitler. The build ing is empty now, although over the stone archway lead to the court ftin isewsom yard you still can read the word "Buergerbraukeller." The tables have been re moved from the courtyard where brown-shirted youths drank beer and became en slaved to a mustached man with a heavy forelock who raved of a Hitler Germany that would live forever. The only thing standing in the courtyard now is a portable cement mixer. A mile or so away, the sun shines brightly on the broad Ludwigstrasse. On each side are the substantial buildings of Munich University. Near the end is a fountain where students lounge and at the far end is a victory arch. The arch commemorates the German victory over France in 1870. At the other end is the Feldherrnhalle, or "Marshals Han." - It is uncovered and at the stairway leading to tne en Drummond S.ffVSU'ifW' v- (Walter Lippman is again traveling in Europe. Roscoe Drummond reports from Washington in his absence.) TO BREAK THE GENEVA DEADLOCK Washington While our eyes are fixed on the Berlin crisis and on whether a meet ing of Foreign Ministers can liquidate the Berlin danger, the real test of whether there can be productive negotia tions with the Sovets on any issue will very likely come sooner at Geneva. The issue is a three-power agreement to end nuclear weapons testing with inspec tion. The stumbling block is the classical Soviet position that they must have the right to veto when, where and wheth er the inspectors shall be al lowed to inspect. The Geneva conference has been deadlocked for long, fruitless weeks over the veto. The breaking point,' for good or ill, seems to be at hand. The reason is that the United States and Britain have just advanced their farthest con cession, their last best offer, rection was mentioned of the homes of Seven Boy Smith, Sidehill Smith, Sticky Smith, and other expressive names of old time cattlemen our host knew so well in his own stock raising and range riding days. Many of them are gone but herds of range cattle were seen on every hand. One place they were roping, branding and dehorning calves. When mention was made of such painful but necessary range practices our host replied, "Yes, it's true, but when an onery bull jumped you for no reason at all, rips your sad dle horse's shoulder open and rips his belly open on the other side so he had to be killed, you wish the critter had been dehorned and which I proceeded to do with grim pleasure." A real old-time note was added to our Sunday ride by the sight of a sizable bear hide stretched and nailed to a barn side, real proof that days of long ago are still here in Rogue River Valley if you don't mind traveling some primitive roads to enjoy them. F. J. Clifford, Rt 2, Box 200-F, Central Point Credit to Mining To the Editor: In March Oregon State Game Bulletin on page 3 is an article titled "Counting Our Chips" by Her bert Lundy, editor of the edi torial page ofthe Oregonian. A condensation of soil, furs, grass, timber, water, game and fish, but no chips were mentioned for mineral re sources for the early history that was so vital to the eco nomic conditions of Oregon after the discovery of gold in Jackson county in 1851. In the Centennial History of Oregon, 1811-1912, Volume 1, by Joseph Gaston, the au thor has given due credit to discovery of mineral such as gold mining as one of top priority of natural resources. Ten years later, 1861, a new gold discovery in eastern Oregon was made and mining activity has continued up to 1942 when all gold operations were curtailed as World War II conditions made the recov ery impossible by inflation ary times. Bert Kissinger, 520 Boardman, Medford trance two stone lions stand guard. It was between these two lions on Nov. 9, 1923, that Hit ler stood, marching toward him from the victory arch were his brown-shirted Nazi followers. That was the day of the ill-fated beer hall putsch. For that, Hitler went to jail and wrote his book "Mein ' Kampf," which con tained the blueprint of Nazi conquest. Near at hand, is a huge square which became the site of a Nazi shrine. Many of Hitler's earlier followers fell there and the square became their honored grave. All the outward signs that made the square a shrine have been removed now. Few Signs Of War The residents .of Munich wish that all signs of Hitler ism could be removed. The Munich of 1959 shows few signs of the war that Hitler unleashed, and, 14 years ago, lost. It is a pleas ant city in which the new U.S. consulate, glassed and standing on a modernistic stilt-like foundation, blends perfectly with the new, mod ernistic business architecture around it. Last year, the birth of a son to a chimney-sweep made Munich a city of one million persons. Foreign buyers come here for textiles, gloves, op tical and precision instru ments. Reports to provide a way to end this deadlock. "DEFORE looking at the U.S. British compromise on the veto and trying to measure its fairness, it is well to look at the broad picture as it has unfolded at Geneva and see where it fits. Both sides have said they want to end the testing of nuclear weapons. Both sides have said they want a dependable system of inspection in order to make sure the agreement is faith fully carried out. Both sides have agreed sub stantially on the scope and technical methods of inspec tion which would be neces sary. BUT, would the inspectors be free to inspect whenever and wherever they found evi dence of an unexplained ex plosion? The Soviets said no, that each nation .must have the right to decide for itself whether the evidence is enough to justify investiga tion and to veto investigation if it chooses. The Americans and British said yes, there must be no bar rier to prevent the control commission from seeing that any suspicious explosion is investigated, for if the sus pected violator can block in vestigation then there is no dependable guarantee against violation. THAT'S the deadlock at Geneva. Is there a way around it? The Soviets have argued that one reason they need a built-in veto over the control commission is that the West has a built-in majority (the U.S. and Britain vs. Russia) on the commission and thus the West could dictate all de cisions automatically. That is a fair and realistic argument and it is at this very point that the U.S. and Brit ain have now offered to cre ate a control commission which will have no veto for the Soviets and no built-in majority for themselves. The proposal is that the j control commission should do its work by majority vote and should comprise seven members as lollows: Three permanent members the U.S.S.R., Britain and the U.S. i Two additional members one selected by each side j one by Russia, one by the U.S. and Britain. Two neutral members mu- tually agreeable to both sides. Thus, while there would be no veto, there would also be U.S.-British majority without neutral backing. In other words, at least one neutral nation would have to agree that the suspicions of an un natural explosion were ade quate to justify investigation. MOSCOW has shouted loud and long that it wants nothin so much as to end nuclear-weapons tests and that it supports "dependable in spection." The U.S. and Britain are convinced that their present offer at Geneva is fair to Rus sia, fair to themselves, that anything less would be un workable and independable. The next move is Moscow's, (c) 1959, New York Herald Tribune Inc. By German standards, Mu nich is not considered a boom city. But it is a prosperous one which still, in the midst of growth, has been able to retain much of its tradition. The great beer halls, each capable of holding thousands of customers, are one sign. Here the German couples come, some with their own sandwiches, and for less than a dollar can spend the even ing, with all the beer they can drink. Close to Munich is one of largest U.S. Army Bases in Europe. There are no "Yankee go home" signs here, although Washington Report By WILLIAM POLITICIANS NEEDED Washington The cherish ed legend that any and all large public affairs are best 1 directed "by b u sinessmen with business- like methods" jtt iq nmlrrcinfT y f"'0 before our eyes. The notion's bankruptcy is being shown in ' thf vprv WilliamS. r, white agency which is the largest buyer and af fords the greatest opportunity for a certain managerial skill. But it is a skill quite differ ent from that required in business, and this is where the rub comes. This agency is the Depart ment of Defense. In spendmg $40 billion a year it dwarfs our biggest private corpora tions. And on its proper functioning rests the physi cal survival of the United States. The second of the big busi nessmen to head Defense in the Eisenhower Administra tion, Neil McElroy, has given notice that he is unlikely to last out the Administration's own tenure. He ' is under stood to feel that he must fairly soon return to private life unless he is to sacrifice an income to six figures for the $25,000 pay of the Secre tary of Defense. 1!R. McELROY has been one of the country's great business success stories soap and allied products, in his case. So, too, was his pre decessor here, Charles E. Wilson, the former president of General Motors. Much has been soundly said that handing the Defense post about from one corporation executive to another is a poor way to run a railroad. There is special point in this obser vation since this particular railroad, the Defense Depart ment, is so immense that any body needs at least two years simply to know his way about in the labyrinths, literal and otherwise, of the Pentagon. It seems to this observer, however, that there is an even more basic point: the Pentagon, though superfici ally the government depart ment mosts nearly compara ble to the great industrial corporations, is actually the department most clearly illus trating w h y businessman methods will not work in most governmental affairs. The great trouble, in a word, is not simply a too rapid turnover in the busi nessman heads of Defense. It is that these are not the right heads in the first place. THE relationship between running the Pentagon and running an industrial con cern is more apparent than real. The fundamental prob lems of industry are produc Counsel With . . Mr. Insurance Fred Brennan Fred Brennan Or Call Mr. Friendly Bill Fish Phone SP 3-7343 MEDFORD INSURANCE AGENCY 27 NORTH HOLLY ST. Now Is People there is occasional resentment that the Americans in World War II bombed' Munich. However, if an American soldier visits a Munich beer hall, he usually is advised to wear civilian clothing. A Munich newspaper col umnist wrote recently that the sight of German uniforms at an annual carnival ball annoyed him. The result was a minor controversy, but in the end the columnist seem ed the winner. One reader wrote: "We have had enough. We don't want to see any more uniforms, not only at carni val bans." S. WHITE tion and sales. The proper method is prudence for ulti mate profit. The fundamen tal problems of the Defense Department are the uses of production. These uses are not and cannot be prudent; indeed they are essentially imprudent that is, daring and full of costly innovations. What are required are un avoidably wasteful and con sciously competitive and overlapping production sys tems, the ultimate goal of which is not profit or even order as such, but simply mil itary strength. By law we cannot, and we should not, have a Secretary of Defense who is a profes sional man. All the same, the Secretary of Defense must have at bottom the same sin gle overmastering concern of any field commander: to have plenty of weapons to shoot and trained men to shoot them in the most efficient, but not necessarily the least costly and most prudent, way. It is at this vital point that no typical big businessman, however honorable and able in his own field, can ever quite humanly mesh as Sec retary of Defense with the military professionals. And it is their fighting and com mand skills that in the end are the truly vital factors in national security. Business is one thing and a good thing. Security is quite another thing. It is not useful to at tempt to compare a pear and a porcupine. POR while "the brass" have the highest respect, in theory, for private enterprise, they are like all professionals everywhere. It is the art that comes first and last, too and in this case it is the art of war. Not even the most sound of normally business like considerations must get into the way of this. The real job of a Secretary of Defense, in short, is this: (1.) To get the services the money they really need, or re sign in the attempt. (2.) To crack down on them constant ly when they try to intrude beyond their own profession al sphere. (3.) But to stay out of their way on matters of strategy and tactics and the employment of weapons, which these professionals have devoted lifetime careers to learning. It is a job not for a busi nessman but for a master pol itician. A politician who can lead and persuade; keep a hard grip upon policy but a very relaxed grip upon op erations. Good politicians are no more and no less noble than businessmen. It just hap pens that they don't care much about money but are endlessly interested in power and policy. This is the kind of drive that is needed at the civilian top in the Pentagon. (Copyright. 1959, by United Feature Syndicate, Inc.) INTERESTED IN INTEREST? Then it may interest you to know that no other industry finances their product at rates as low as those provided by the Insurance Industry Financ ing. Try it! Bill Fish
