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Made in Circumstances Seldom Faced Nature of Reply to Peace Proposal Well-Kept Secret Dras tic Emergency Measures Outlined. f-f -f - PARIS, Dec. 19. Premier Itriaml nnnuunccit in the somite today that jlho entente allies would send tomorrow a concert- ed reply milking known "to the central powers that it is inipos- slide tn take their reuuest for nonce seriously." f - I.OXDOX, Dee. 10. In the house, of lords today Ihe Mar- quise of Crowe, the government leader, said : "We must carry on the war to the last mini, to I lie last shill- in-." 4- f I.OXDOX, Dec. II). The first ap LONDON'1, Dec. 19. Premier Lloyd i pcarance of David l.lovd George be George said In the house of commons , fore 10 house of commons as pro today that U was felt that they should j mK.. was lnnile today in oircitm know before entering on negotiations : stances seldom, if ever, laced by a that Germany was prepared to ac- lu.w holder of the office. Kven if the cede to the only terms whereup it was i Kavc proposals of the cenirul pow possible for peace to be obtained and maintained in Europe. The premier said that without rep aration peace would be impossible. crs had not intervened, Ins statement of Ihe policy of his government, which was chosen in reply to n pub lic demand for more vigorous prose Jlr. Lloyd George said there were cution of the war would have marked no proposals for peace. To enter into an important step in the world con proposals of which they had no fl i -1 - The peace nolo, however, knowledge was to put their heads Into shitted the interest, and every onr a. nnjjso with the... rope end In tho i nor of ihe - world jiwaitott. tiio uii- i iioiiiii-i-iiii-iii as c mi- iiiinn iuiiimiii- lloiv the prime minister of Km;' and looks today in the Knglisli par lininent, answering the peace proposals of kriniiiiy. hands of Germany. Mitch as thsy longed for It, the pre- mlor added, the central powers' note aud the speech preceding It afforded small encouragement and hope for an honorable and lasting peace. Lloyd George's Speech. Mr. Lloyd George said: ' "Our answer will be given in full accord with our allies. Each of the allies has separately and independ ently arrived) at the same conclusion. I am glad of the first -answer given by Fiance and Russia." Mr. Lloyd Georgo said the allies , toward the move of the central pow ers. Secret Well Kept. The secret was so well kept that the best informed parliamentary cor respondents differed as to the treat ment the peace proposals would re ceive. The London papers which support the I.loyd George Government most strongly expressed the view that the government had decided a confer ence on Germany's terms would not be considered. Kven the moderate provincial papers warned the pacif- ' :. , . 1 1. .. i . I I. .. I l... i , ...... ,i. ,! ti.cia'sis IIUU IIICV null IICSl IllllhU tip would Insist that tho only end of the , . , ., , ,-. their minds that a prompt refusal war must bo a complete guarantee! 1 , L . . n k t would he Inrthconiing. But the hone against i russian iiiiium lain maim - . . ., . was cNpresscd m manv (iiuirtcis. lug tho peaces of Europe. 1 . ; ' , , , .. . ,,, ii... i nol wi I list a iidinil the tact that the The formal reply ot tho allies, tho " . i i ...in i. .i ilucinian nolo contained no terms, the couorso of a few days. The premier said, "we will await until wo hear what terms and guar antees there are surer than those which Germany broke. Meanwhile we put our trust In our unbroken army." During tho war. the premier said, chipping would be nationalized In a true sense. Liquidating Outrages. After declaring tluit ce without reparation was Impossible, the pre mier asked whether "all the outrages FLOOD CONTROL DELAY COSILY 10 (Continued on Page Six.) Ihiit PivniHT IJtiyd George would be little mure communicative and give the central powers sinnc hint as to what thev would have to give as tile price of peace. Kiiu'i-fteney Measures. I'eMdes tiie peace proposals, the premier had to deal with many ques tions t'aeiny; the new jruvci nment, in- eludinu; the dratir war emergency measures, the Iri.-h and food prob lem and the submarine menace. Such wa the interest in the speech that every member of the hou-e of commons, with the exception of a lew on the .sick list and those in active WASHINGTON, Dec. 111. Hepre sentative Carry of California told the senate commerce committee to day that if government flood control relief is withheld for ten years from the Sacramento river to await a jen eral river control scheme, such ns Senator New-land proposes, the flood damages to California property would iirmrcsnte from forly to fifty million dollars and that there would he ines timable los of life. The committee had under consider ation the $50,000,000 flood control bill for the Mississippi aud Sacramen to rivers which passed the house lust season. Representatives of land owners along the Mississippi river also, urged favorable action on the bill. Sen ator Cronna of North Dakota sub mitted an amendment to permit Min nesota and North and South Dakota FOUND LATER IN Foreign Minister Tells Deputies Al lied Nations Will Act as Unit No Genuine Proposals for Peace Made No Basis Outlined Will Not Play the Enemy's Game. General Scott Says National Guard Unfit to Meet Trained Troops Fortunately Mexicans Also Un trained Contrast With Regulars Startling Mobilization Beneficial Terms Offered Known Not Accept able to Allies, Yet Proposal Fram ed So That Neutral Nations Will Put Blame for Continuing War Upon Kaiser's Enemies. 1 SAX FRANCISCO, Dec. 19. Wil liam A. Mundell, head of the private detective agency herc.related today on tho witness stand In the United States district court how he and fed eral secret service men examined with much care a bomb, which the government alleges later found its way Into the office ot Franz Bopp, German consul general. Bopp and consulate aides are on trial for al leged conspiracies to dynamite en tente munition ships and railroads in Canada and the United States during 1915. .. The- bomb was said to have been brought to Mundell by J. II. Van Koolbergcn, an absentee defendant. . "In August. 1913, Von Koolbergen came to my office with a bomb con stractcd of a two-quart vacuum bot- KO.MU, Dec. 19. Foreign Minister Soiinino suid In tho chamber of depu ties today to several resolutions which had been Introduced In tho chamber in regard to the peace pro posals of the Central powers seemed to be based on the position that the government had, or would have, con crete and proclsc indications as to the basis on which negotiations would be opened: Malls Unknown. As I said on the day before yes terday, this supposition does not cor respond with the facts," the foreign minister continued. "There Is no sign of conditions or basis for nego tiations in the enemy's note. 1 possess information in regard to the essential proposals of peace, but noth ing definite. It would be ncitlior practical nor proper to discuss that question today. Moreover, It should be understood clearly that no one of the entente allies can take Into con sideration any condition by which peace might be eventually offered to him Under separute form. In the public Interest and out of rospect to the allied governments I cannot com munnlcate, to you anything whatever as to the substance of the answer wo shall give to the note of tho four enemy powers. The answer will be published us soon as It Is drawn up. All Wish I'eiiotv We all wish peace and lasting peace. But we consider a lastnib peace to be a careful settlement whose duration depends not on the solidity of the fetters with which one peace is held subject to another, but on an exact balance among the Btates, based on rospect for the principal na tionalities, rules laid down in tho law of nations and reasons of humanity and civilization. "If wo wcro In the presence of gen uine proposals, witli basis of n naturo to satisfy tho general postulates of civilization and Justice which I have .Just mentioned, none would reject them abruptly. Hut thero Is nothing to Bhow even faintly that this is tho case and there aro many reasons for believing the contrary. to enter into an agreement to aid In tie. a clock, batteries and nitioglycer- (Continued on Page Eight.) P.KRI.IX, Dec. 1!). Although Ihe German military autlioritjes are mak ing no effort to belittle the recent French gnins in the neighborhood of Verdun and look for more attacks in the near future, they maintain thai the results attained are small and have no effect on the general situa tion. They do not believe the antici pated future attacks will necessitate any transfer of troops from the east to the west, since ample reserves are on hand. "The continued German advance in Kiimnnin, nside from straightening the line and reducing the length of Ihe front by several hundred kilometers, has freed large numbers of troop-. The Germnns ore watching with in-tere-t for foreign speculation as to where Field Marshal Von I linden -burg will employ these forces whether against Italy, lius-ia or the enlente forces on the Macedonian front.' . . DEAD IN ITALY AGO, Dec. Ill of the death of Princess Caiamnn j ( liiinay, formerly Miss Clara Ward of Detroit, at her villa in l'adua. It aly, was received here today ill a ca ble me.--age to Calvin Fentress, a lo cal banker. According to Mr. Fentress, the priiice-s died after a brief illness, no details of which he has learned. The Prince.-- Chimay was born in 18Tit, the daughter of F.hcr II. Ward, mil lionaire -hip builder of Detroit. At H -he was -cut to an Kuiopean con vent and siib-ec,uently,' while still n young girl, inherited the millions of her lather. When she was IS she married Joseph Dc Chimay. a Bel gian pi im e. I.aier she was divorced improving navigation and prevent and control floods on boundary waters to those states. As a compromise, Senator New lands proposed that the committee substitute bis general flood control bill providing for survey and ultimate control of all watersheds and rivers, Incorporating it In the proposed J.'.o. 000,000 for the Mississippi and Sac ramento rivers, but also appropriat ing at least $1,000,000 to begin work on the comprehensive flood control rlan. This, he said, would mcai. a beginning In the right direction of -Conl irmalion watcrwn- rontro1 llrt at t"e Han,e time take care of .Mississippi and Sac ramento river emergencies. The cori ivittee will continue it sconslderaiion tomorrow. , ine," said Mundell. "I took It to the federal building and after the au thorities inspected It, I brought it back and locked it in my safe." "Then what became of It?" asked United States District Attorney Pres ton. "Koolbergen called for It the next day," Mundell answered. Yesterday one of Mundcll's dctoc Hves testified he followed Van Kool bergen to the German consulate with the bomb. 1 1, WIT Fo'; D. Conn., Dec. 1!). The whole oily of Watcrhurv may have to be vaccinated, in an effort to check the spread of smallpox now prevalent there, in Hie opinion of Dr. John T. Illaek. seerolarv of ihe stale hoard of and oeeame me win oi .iiinci nigo. neann. viun nn case- ri-pm i-u a Hungarian violini-t. Four year- from that city up to today and three later she was again divorced and ' additional from a -mall neighboring noirried (tiii-cri liioaTdi. from I tow n. Dr. lilack said the situation eppe whom she was separated. had assumed serious proportions (Continued on Pago Fight.) NO REPLY GIVEN a a WAS11IXGTOX, Dee. 19. The Xu tionnl Guard force mobilized mi the Mexican border would have required nearly a year of intensive Iriiinin lo prepare it to meet Iraincd troops, Major General Hugh I.. Scott, chief of slu IT of the army, declared today in coin inning lo urge a universal ser vice military svsleni before a senate sub-committee.' "I'oi'liinalely the Mexicans were mil rained troops," be added, "anil our purpose to protect the border was accomplished by the mere presence of our men on the border without fir ing a shot. We never contemplated sending the Xational Guard over th border until thev had been trained although I sat up until 2 or :i o'clock every morning al the war department fully expecting a message saying thai the fight was on, that Pcrshiu force or the border guard hud hi al lacked. . Couldn't Kven March. 'We felt that the .National Guar troops would have destroyed them selves in inarching had ..they, been sent tllroiigh 111. it hard coiinlry. "General I crslimg s troons mm phenomena! marches. There was not a National Guard organization that could have done it. It would hav killed both men and horses.' General Scott said there were 211 000 Carranza Hoops around the Pi shing expedition aud 1-1,000 more o nosile Doii'diis, where great Aiiiericn iuleresl-; are located. These the noinls where he looked for al tack. "We seal Ihe National Guard dow because it was all we had and w wauled the Mexicans to see that iliers were coming," he said. "W sent some units almost uiiciuippct Mobilization llcncf Iciiil. "Do von think this iiiohili.atii was beneficial for our counlryf asked Senator Brady. "I do," answered General Scull I was very beneficial. It prevenl an attack and gave protect ion American lives and properly on tin border for the fir-t tune' in iiv year-." General Scull disagreed w'ilh Gen eral Wood's slnteinciil ycslerilay that six months' iutcu-ivc training would prepare soldiers for pa age inlo a federal re-ervc. The general slaff bclieved, he said, a year of initiative inlcu-ive training to be Ihe ah-ohite minimum, lie suhiuiltoil Ihe report on the National Guard mobilization compiled bv folly regular army iu--pcelors to -how Ihe liopcles-liess of that sy-teiu of military prepiirnlion from Ihe army point of view. "It i Ihc volunteer sy-lem thai is al faull," "0 ltv C1IAS. I'.DWAKD I'rSSF.IX. WASHINGTON', D. C, Dee. 111. t ... i. . i iermnnv s peace proposal is u siiom? Hoy bold enough and clever enough to tuke tho brealh of anybody that studies the reul Kuropean situation. Willi cxlraordi nary adroitness slio offers terms sho knows the allies will not accept, and yet so frames them that in America and I ho other neutral coun tries millions of per sons w ill heron I ter put upon the allies all the Illume lor ontiiiuiiig the war. Germany offered lo make peace, offered to restore Belgium, about which you make such a fuss; offered to ovaeuale northern France. Tho practical value of such a play is Ue- r . ii.- i.. ,i... . t..:....i' VOIIll caleuiaiiou. in Hie Liiiicu Slates, for instance,. it hits the right moment exactly between !lui eyes. Willi all'lhesireinbargir hills pend ing', say a wine ol condemnation oi. the allies starts-, can you fell where il might end? Ycl there are lit least six mighty good reasons why Ihe al lies caiinol possibly agree to any such terms or good, ut least, from Mi 53k- cms their poinl of view. itoasoiiH lasieu. I. Serbia To surrender her to Au-lria would mean that Austria gets away ivilh her mon-troiis and intoler able demands, which precipitated the war. Thai would seal the fate of every small nation on carlh. It would menu that no small nation hud n sin gle right any great tuition was hound lo respect. Them would ho no oode of morals bclwccii a big nation and a small nation except Ihe code of the slroiiger arm ami the longer renoli o. Ii'u-sia She would have to bu cold-bloodedly abandoned by her al lies lo bear a loss of territory they escaped and to give up forever her fondi-t hope of centuries Constaii linople. Ihe warm water outlet, lack of which has kept her in the list of backward nations, Ihorcliy ihioniing her people lo autocratic rule. il. ,Iiipaii---She would have to give up her new po--cssions in China and the Smith Pacific. Those Smith Pa cific island- have already begun to make her rich. Her people would not lei go of them without a struggle. Under Ihe terms of the new alliance (Continued on Page Six.) (Continued on Pago Six.) JOFFRE HANDS OVER LONDON. Dec, 19. A Itotiter'a dispatch from The llagiio says that, replying to a committee report on estimates of foreign affairs in 1917, Ihe foreign minister said that the lliitlsh government had not replied to (lie DuCd note of April 1 I regard ing tho seizure of malls. He said thai In reply to a Dutch protest in :'nvi oilier. Ureal Britain bad declared i,..s r.diicKs lo come to an under- PAIt.'S. Dec. 19. General .loffre V.andlng similar to thai rcaehoi! with French armies of the north and nortn- tlie United Btates, by which unlver- EASY 10 BREAK GERMAN FRONT OKSIN1NG, N. Y., Dec. 19. In keeping with their wish that they be executed today instead of Friday, Charles Kumrow, 20 years old of Buf falo, and Stanley .1. Mlllstein, 19. of Utlca. met their death In the electric chair at Sing Sing prison today. l.ast Sunday Kumrow and Mlllstein requested that their execution be ad vanced In order that the grief of their relatives and the feelings of their fel low inmates In the death house might he dulled as much as possible by Christmas time. Mlllstein killed a policeman in Utlca. Kumrow shot to death a barge watchman in Buffalo. sillcs and public bodies In oversea countries might obtain German sclen tiric and technical publications, this arrangement Including certuin prl Vfcte persons. Itegardlng the torpedoing of the Pull -inbaiiR, the minister said that he was unable to adduce facts, to con tradict the positive declaration of the German admiralty and that the Ger man government was not ready to submit the case to an International commission. In respect to the sinking of the Bloomersdljk qiieslloiiei-B were re ferred to an orange book, which will be published shortly. Frenc harmles of the north and north east yesterday morning to General Robert Georgo Nlvelle, recently ap pointed commander In chief of those armies, in a brief speech General Jorfre congratulated General Nlvelle upon his appointment. The princi pal officers of the grand headquar ters staff who will remain at their posts until General Nlvelle forms his own staff, likewise offered their congratulations. General Nivelle replied, expressing admiration for the high military qual Ities of the victor of the .Marne, whose selection as president of the allied military council he. alluded to as a merited promotion. PAItlrf, Dec. 19. In an army order addressed to tiie men of his command afler Friday's success General Man- gin, who was in direct command of the troops which forced back tho Germans on the Verdun front, said In part: "After the battles of October 24 and Derember 1.1, fought on ground offering exceptional facilities to the defenes, with further advantages ow ing to the weather, none can doubt any longer that It Is possible to defeat the enemy. Superior In numbers and disposition of formidable artillery, with mlntito preparation of the ground by good artillery, and the as sistance of vigilant aviators, a brave and well trained Infantry can break through and then maneuver under the high command ot General Nl velle." ,
