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"We Will Await Until We Hear What
Terms and Guarantees There Are
Surer Than Those Which Germany
Broke, Meanwhile We Put Our
Trust in Our Unbroken Army."
First Appearance of Lloyd George Is
. Made in Circumstances Seldom
Faced Nature of Reply to Peace
Proposal Well-Kept Secret Dras
tic Emergency Measures Outlined.
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PARIS, Dec. 19. Premier
Itriaml nnnuunccit in the somite
today that jlho entente allies
would send tomorrow a concert-
ed reply milking known "to the
central powers that it is inipos-
slide tn take their reuuest for
nonce seriously."
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I.OXDOX, Dee. 10. In the
house, of lords today Ihe Mar-
quise of Crowe, the government
leader, said :
"We must carry on the war to
the last mini, to I lie last shill-
in-."
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I.OXDOX, Dec. II). The first ap
LONDON'1, Dec. 19. Premier Lloyd i pcarance of David l.lovd George be
George said In the house of commons , fore 10 house of commons as pro
today that U was felt that they should j mK.. was lnnile today in oircitm
know before entering on negotiations : stances seldom, if ever, laced by a
that Germany was prepared to ac- lu.w holder of the office. Kven if the
cede to the only terms whereup it was i Kavc proposals of the cenirul pow
possible for peace to be obtained and
maintained in Europe.
The premier said that without rep
aration peace would be impossible.
crs had not intervened, Ins statement
of Ihe policy of his government,
which was chosen in reply to n pub
lic demand for more vigorous prose
Jlr. Lloyd George said there were cution of the war would have marked
no proposals for peace. To enter into an important step in the world con
proposals of which they had no fl i -1 - The peace nolo, however,
knowledge was to put their heads Into shitted the interest, and every onr
a. nnjjso with the... rope end In tho i nor of ihe - world jiwaitott. tiio uii-
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lloiv the prime minister of Km;' and looks today in the Knglisli par
lininent, answering the peace proposals of kriniiiiy.
hands of Germany.
Mitch as thsy longed for It, the pre-
mlor added, the central powers' note
aud the speech preceding It afforded
small encouragement and hope for an
honorable and lasting peace.
Lloyd George's Speech.
Mr. Lloyd George said: '
"Our answer will be given in full
accord with our allies. Each of the
allies has separately and independ
ently arrived) at the same conclusion.
I am glad of the first -answer given
by Fiance and Russia."
Mr. Lloyd Georgo said the allies ,
toward the move of the central pow
ers.
Secret Well Kept.
The secret was so well kept that
the best informed parliamentary cor
respondents differed as to the treat
ment the peace proposals would re
ceive. The London papers which
support the I.loyd George Government
most strongly expressed the view that
the government had decided a confer
ence on Germany's terms would not
be considered. Kven the moderate
provincial papers warned the pacif-
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would Insist that tho only end of the ,
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war must bo a complete guarantee! 1
, L . . n k t would he Inrthconiing. But the hone
against i russian iiiiium lain maim - .
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lug tho peaces of Europe. 1 . ; ' ,
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The formal reply ot tho allies, tho " .
i i ...in i. .i ilucinian nolo contained no terms,
the couorso of a few days.
The premier said, "we will await
until wo hear what terms and guar
antees there are surer than those
which Germany broke. Meanwhile
we put our trust In our unbroken
army."
During tho war. the premier said,
chipping would be nationalized In a
true sense.
Liquidating Outrages.
After declaring tluit ce without
reparation was Impossible, the pre
mier asked whether "all the outrages
FLOOD CONTROL
DELAY COSILY
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(Continued on Page Six.)
Ihiit PivniHT IJtiyd George would be
little mure communicative and give
the central powers sinnc hint as to
what thev would have to give as tile
price of peace.
Kiiu'i-fteney Measures.
I'eMdes tiie peace proposals, the
premier had to deal with many ques
tions t'aeiny; the new jruvci nment, in-
eludinu; the dratir war emergency
measures, the Iri.-h and food prob
lem and the submarine menace.
Such wa the interest in the speech
that every member of the hou-e of
commons, with the exception of a lew
on the .sick list and those in active
WASHINGTON, Dec. 111. Hepre
sentative Carry of California told
the senate commerce committee to
day that if government flood control
relief is withheld for ten years from
the Sacramento river to await a jen
eral river control scheme, such ns
Senator New-land proposes, the flood
damages to California property would
iirmrcsnte from forly to fifty million
dollars and that there would he ines
timable los of life.
The committee had under consider
ation the $50,000,000 flood control
bill for the Mississippi aud Sacramen
to rivers which passed the house lust
season.
Representatives of land owners
along the Mississippi river also, urged
favorable action on the bill. Sen
ator Cronna of North Dakota sub
mitted an amendment to permit Min
nesota and North and South Dakota
FOUND LATER IN
Foreign Minister Tells Deputies Al
lied Nations Will Act as Unit No
Genuine Proposals for Peace Made
No Basis Outlined Will Not
Play the Enemy's Game.
General Scott Says National Guard
Unfit to Meet Trained Troops
Fortunately Mexicans Also Un
trained Contrast With Regulars
Startling Mobilization Beneficial
Terms Offered Known Not Accept
able to Allies, Yet Proposal Fram
ed So That Neutral Nations Will
Put Blame for Continuing War
Upon Kaiser's Enemies. 1
SAX FRANCISCO, Dec. 19. Wil
liam A. Mundell, head of the private
detective agency herc.related today
on tho witness stand In the United
States district court how he and fed
eral secret service men examined
with much care a bomb, which the
government alleges later found its
way Into the office ot Franz Bopp,
German consul general. Bopp and
consulate aides are on trial for al
leged conspiracies to dynamite en
tente munition ships and railroads in
Canada and the United States during
1915.
.. The- bomb was said to have been
brought to Mundell by J. II. Van
Koolbergcn, an absentee defendant.
. "In August. 1913, Von Koolbergen
came to my office with a bomb con
stractcd of a two-quart vacuum bot-
KO.MU, Dec. 19. Foreign Minister
Soiinino suid In tho chamber of depu
ties today to several resolutions
which had been Introduced In tho
chamber in regard to the peace pro
posals of the Central powers seemed
to be based on the position that the
government had, or would have, con
crete and proclsc indications as to the
basis on which negotiations would be
opened:
Malls Unknown.
As I said on the day before yes
terday, this supposition does not cor
respond with the facts," the foreign
minister continued. "There Is no
sign of conditions or basis for nego
tiations in the enemy's note. 1
possess information in regard to the
essential proposals of peace, but noth
ing definite. It would be ncitlior
practical nor proper to discuss that
question today. Moreover, It should
be understood clearly that no one of
the entente allies can take Into con
sideration any condition by which
peace might be eventually offered to
him Under separute form. In the
public Interest and out of rospect to
the allied governments I cannot com
munnlcate, to you anything whatever
as to the substance of the answer wo
shall give to the note of tho four
enemy powers. The answer will be
published us soon as It Is drawn up.
All Wish I'eiiotv
We all wish peace and lasting
peace. But we consider a lastnib
peace to be a careful settlement
whose duration depends not on the
solidity of the fetters with which one
peace is held subject to another, but
on an exact balance among the Btates,
based on rospect for the principal na
tionalities, rules laid down in tho law
of nations and reasons of humanity
and civilization.
"If wo wcro In the presence of gen
uine proposals, witli basis of n naturo
to satisfy tho general postulates of
civilization and Justice which I have
.Just mentioned, none would reject
them abruptly. Hut thero Is nothing
to Bhow even faintly that this is tho
case and there aro many reasons for
believing the contrary.
to enter into an agreement to aid In tie. a clock, batteries and nitioglycer-
(Continued on Page Eight.)
P.KRI.IX, Dec. 1!). Although Ihe
German military autlioritjes are mak
ing no effort to belittle the recent
French gnins in the neighborhood of
Verdun and look for more attacks in
the near future, they maintain thai
the results attained are small and
have no effect on the general situa
tion. They do not believe the antici
pated future attacks will necessitate
any transfer of troops from the east
to the west, since ample reserves are
on hand.
"The continued German advance in
Kiimnnin, nside from straightening
the line and reducing the length of Ihe
front by several hundred kilometers,
has freed large numbers of troop-.
The Germnns ore watching with in-tere-t
for foreign speculation as to
where Field Marshal Von I linden -burg
will employ these forces
whether against Italy, lius-ia or the
enlente forces on the Macedonian
front.' . .
DEAD IN ITALY
AGO, Dec. Ill
of the death of Princess Caiamnn j
( liiinay, formerly Miss Clara Ward
of Detroit, at her villa in l'adua. It
aly, was received here today ill a ca
ble me.--age to Calvin Fentress, a lo
cal banker.
According to Mr. Fentress, the
priiice-s died after a brief illness, no
details of which he has learned. The
Prince.-- Chimay was born in 18Tit,
the daughter of F.hcr II. Ward, mil
lionaire -hip builder of Detroit. At
H -he was -cut to an Kuiopean con
vent and siib-ec,uently,' while still n
young girl, inherited the millions of
her lather. When she was IS she
married Joseph Dc Chimay. a Bel
gian pi im e. I.aier she was divorced
improving navigation and prevent and
control floods on boundary waters to
those states.
As a compromise, Senator New
lands proposed that the committee
substitute bis general flood control
bill providing for survey and ultimate
control of all watersheds and rivers,
Incorporating it In the proposed J.'.o.
000,000 for the Mississippi and Sac
ramento rivers, but also appropriat
ing at least $1,000,000 to begin work
on the comprehensive flood control
rlan. This, he said, would mcai. a
beginning In the right direction of
-Conl irmalion watcrwn- rontro1 llrt at t"e Han,e
time take care of .Mississippi and Sac
ramento river emergencies. The cori
ivittee will continue it sconslderaiion
tomorrow. ,
ine," said Mundell. "I took It to the
federal building and after the au
thorities inspected It, I brought it
back and locked it in my safe."
"Then what became of It?" asked
United States District Attorney Pres
ton. "Koolbergen called for It the next
day," Mundell answered.
Yesterday one of Mundcll's dctoc
Hves testified he followed Van Kool
bergen to the German consulate with
the bomb.
1 1, WIT Fo'; D. Conn., Dec. 1!). The
whole oily of Watcrhurv may have to
be vaccinated, in an effort to check
the spread of smallpox now prevalent
there, in Hie opinion of Dr. John T.
Illaek. seerolarv of ihe stale hoard of
and oeeame me win oi .iiinci nigo. neann. viun nn case- ri-pm i-u
a Hungarian violini-t. Four year- from that city up to today and three
later she was again divorced and ' additional from a -mall neighboring
noirried (tiii-cri liioaTdi. from I tow n. Dr. lilack said the situation
eppe
whom she was separated.
had assumed serious proportions
(Continued on Pago Fight.)
NO REPLY GIVEN
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WAS11IXGTOX, Dee. 19. The Xu
tionnl Guard force mobilized mi the
Mexican border would have required
nearly a year of intensive Iriiinin
lo prepare it to meet Iraincd troops,
Major General Hugh I.. Scott, chief
of slu IT of the army, declared today
in coin inning lo urge a universal ser
vice military svsleni before a senate
sub-committee.'
"I'oi'liinalely the Mexicans were
mil rained troops," be added, "anil
our purpose to protect the border was
accomplished by the mere presence
of our men on the border without fir
ing a shot. We never contemplated
sending the Xational Guard over th
border until thev had been trained
although I sat up until 2 or :i o'clock
every morning al the war department
fully expecting a message saying thai
the fight was on, that Pcrshiu
force or the border guard hud hi
al lacked. .
Couldn't Kven March.
'We felt that the .National Guar
troops would have destroyed them
selves in inarching had ..they, been
sent tllroiigh 111. it hard coiinlry.
"General I crslimg s troons mm
phenomena! marches. There was not
a National Guard organization that
could have done it. It would hav
killed both men and horses.'
General Scott said there were 211
000 Carranza Hoops around the Pi
shing expedition aud 1-1,000 more o
nosile Doii'diis, where great Aiiiericn
iuleresl-; are located. These
the noinls where he looked for al
tack.
"We seal Ihe National Guard dow
because it was all we had and w
wauled the Mexicans to see that
iliers were coming," he said. "W
sent some units almost uiiciuippct
Mobilization llcncf Iciiil.
"Do von think this iiiohili.atii
was beneficial for our counlryf
asked Senator Brady.
"I do," answered General Scull
I was very beneficial. It prevenl
an attack and gave protect ion
American lives and properly on tin
border for the fir-t tune' in iiv
year-."
General Scull disagreed w'ilh Gen
eral Wood's slnteinciil ycslerilay that
six months' iutcu-ivc training would
prepare soldiers for pa age inlo a
federal re-ervc. The general slaff
bclieved, he said, a year of initiative
inlcu-ive training to be Ihe ah-ohite
minimum, lie suhiuiltoil Ihe report
on the National Guard mobilization
compiled bv folly regular army iu--pcelors
to -how Ihe liopcles-liess of
that sy-teiu of military prepiirnlion
from Ihe army point of view. "It i
Ihc volunteer sy-lem thai is al faull,"
"0
ltv C1IAS. I'.DWAKD I'rSSF.IX.
WASHINGTON', D. C, Dee. 111.
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iermnnv s peace proposal is u siiom?
Hoy bold enough and clever
enough to tuke tho
brealh of anybody
that studies the reul
Kuropean situation.
Willi cxlraordi
nary adroitness slio
offers terms sho
knows the allies will
not accept, and yet
so frames them that
in America and I ho
other neutral coun
tries millions of per
sons w ill heron I ter
put upon the allies all the Illume lor
ontiiiuiiig the war.
Germany offered lo make peace,
offered to restore Belgium, about
which you make such a fuss; offered
to ovaeuale northern France. Tho
practical value of such a play is Ue-
r . ii.- i.. ,i... . t..:....i'
VOIIll caleuiaiiou. in Hie Liiiicu
Slates, for instance,. it hits the right
moment exactly between !lui eyes.
Willi all'lhesireinbargir hills pend
ing', say a wine ol condemnation oi.
the allies starts-, can you fell where
il might end? Ycl there are lit least
six mighty good reasons why Ihe al
lies caiinol possibly agree to any
such terms or good, ut least, from
Mi 53k-
cms
their poinl of view.
itoasoiiH lasieu.
I. Serbia To surrender her to
Au-lria would mean that Austria gets
away ivilh her mon-troiis and intoler
able demands, which precipitated the
war. Thai would seal the fate of
every small nation on carlh. It would
menu that no small nation hud n sin
gle right any great tuition was hound
lo respect. Them would ho no oode
of morals bclwccii a big nation and
a small nation except Ihe code of the
slroiiger arm ami the longer renoli
o. Ii'u-sia She would have to bu
cold-bloodedly abandoned by her al
lies lo bear a loss of territory they
escaped and to give up forever her
fondi-t hope of centuries Constaii
linople. Ihe warm water outlet, lack
of which has kept her in the list of
backward nations, Ihorcliy ihioniing
her people lo autocratic rule.
il. ,Iiipaii---She would have to give
up her new po--cssions in China and
the Smith Pacific. Those Smith Pa
cific island- have already begun to
make her rich. Her people would not
lei go of them without a struggle.
Under Ihe terms of the new alliance
(Continued on Page Six.)
(Continued on Pago Six.)
JOFFRE HANDS OVER
LONDON. Dec, 19. A Itotiter'a
dispatch from The llagiio says that,
replying to a committee report on
estimates of foreign affairs in 1917,
Ihe foreign minister said that the
lliitlsh government had not replied
to (lie DuCd note of April 1 I regard
ing tho seizure of malls. He said
thai In reply to a Dutch protest in
:'nvi oilier. Ureal Britain bad declared
i,..s r.diicKs lo come to an under- PAIt.'S. Dec. 19. General .loffre
V.andlng similar to thai rcaehoi! with French armies of the north and nortn-
tlie United Btates, by which unlver-
EASY 10 BREAK
GERMAN FRONT
OKSIN1NG, N. Y., Dec. 19. In
keeping with their wish that they be
executed today instead of Friday,
Charles Kumrow, 20 years old of Buf
falo, and Stanley .1. Mlllstein, 19. of
Utlca. met their death In the electric
chair at Sing Sing prison today.
l.ast Sunday Kumrow and Mlllstein
requested that their execution be ad
vanced In order that the grief of their
relatives and the feelings of their fel
low inmates In the death house might
he dulled as much as possible by
Christmas time.
Mlllstein killed a policeman in
Utlca. Kumrow shot to death a barge
watchman in Buffalo.
sillcs and public bodies In oversea
countries might obtain German sclen
tiric and technical publications, this
arrangement Including certuin prl
Vfcte persons.
Itegardlng the torpedoing of the
Pull -inbaiiR, the minister said that he
was unable to adduce facts, to con
tradict the positive declaration of the
German admiralty and that the Ger
man government was not ready to
submit the case to an International
commission.
In respect to the sinking of the
Bloomersdljk qiieslloiiei-B were re
ferred to an orange book, which will
be published shortly.
Frenc harmles of the north and north
east yesterday morning to General
Robert Georgo Nlvelle, recently ap
pointed commander In chief of those
armies, in a brief speech General
Jorfre congratulated General Nlvelle
upon his appointment. The princi
pal officers of the grand headquar
ters staff who will remain at their
posts until General Nlvelle forms his
own staff, likewise offered their congratulations.
General Nivelle replied, expressing
admiration for the high military qual
Ities of the victor of the .Marne, whose
selection as president of the allied
military council he. alluded to as a
merited promotion.
PAItlrf, Dec. 19. In an army order
addressed to tiie men of his command
afler Friday's success General Man-
gin, who was in direct command of
the troops which forced back tho
Germans on the Verdun front, said In
part:
"After the battles of October 24
and Derember 1.1, fought on ground
offering exceptional facilities to the
defenes, with further advantages ow
ing to the weather, none can doubt
any longer that It Is possible to defeat
the enemy. Superior In numbers and
disposition of formidable artillery,
with mlntito preparation of the
ground by good artillery, and the as
sistance of vigilant aviators, a brave
and well trained Infantry can break
through and then maneuver under
the high command ot General Nl
velle." ,