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H * e ———-—-......... . i c ■ 3 CHRISTIAN HERALD i I /-■ 1 '■/-X —b------------ ........ — primitive Christians to observe the weekly communion ? 2. Is such an observance at the present day in harmony with the Chifistian’i’etigton ? ~----- --------- 3. If so, what good reason can be offered for not following the exam ple of the primitive churches ? 4 If not, what was their custom in reference to the communion ?” When he gets through with these we may have something more to say. ■■ - - T-... - . ■ 5 t ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------- ———— Christ and his church by refusing to bear his name and accepting a human one, and by associating her self* with a people wrho had not _been baptized into Jesus Christ, and Hence whose society constituted nu part of the ‘ one body ’ ”—language which means precisely that she did not join the“ Camphellites !” Whether we would have baptized that lady, is new and foreign matter, in no way connected with the question at issue, and introduced probably to lead from it or cover up and hide it.—Paul says indeed that we are “ baptized into Christbut it is ---------------:------- ♦ • ♦ —............. - also said in Scripture (as in Jno. THAT BAPTISM AGAIN. " -L12 ♦ a -17-, 1S Kfl \ that we^ believe Our brother of the Christian In —eis— into Him, thus teachin^That dex is still in trouble, over that lady we must first believe into Christ we refused to baptize. We clip the spiritually before ~we are baptized into him formally. To our view, following from the.last number : remission is secured not by the The Oregon Christian Herald formal but by the spiritual entrance ....... thinks-that the baptism of a lady into Christ.------ —;— ------------- by a “ Campbellite ” minister, some The Index has now “ used ” its years ago, “ practically amounted to nothing,” because she did not join “say and unsay,” and it is remark the “ Campbellites.” What! Did able to us that a man possessing it not avail “ for the remission of the acumen us fl ally manifested by sins” to her? Must we join the the editor of the Index will allow “ Campbellites ” to secure remission? himself to unconsciously fall into —Christ ian Index. No sir, it is not necessary to join such fallacious reasoning as the the “ Campbellite church ” to secure above. The point that he tries to remission; but we are inclined to make on Us stated in syllogistic think from the reading of the form is about as follows : * Scriptures that it is necessary to get he sins of the lady in question into Jesus Christ to secure it, and ___ Paul tells us that we are baptized were not remitted in her baptism, ± a • . ii —t into baptism alorvef crv like faith alone, does not secure re church. Therefore joining the mission. It requires something “ Campbellite ” church is necessary more than mere immersion. The subject must be properly prepared to the remission of sinsj__ Now our by possessing the other Scripture position is just this : A person may qualifications. The trouble with realize his lost condition and that the lady referred to was, that she faith in Christ and obedience to his did not possess these pre requisites. will are necessary to save him ; and Instead of being satisfied with sim ply the Church of Christ, she avow may thus proceed to the ordinance ed her purpose to virtually forsake of baptism, not to join a sectarian her Christ and his Church by refus Church but simply to obey the ing to wear his name and accepting Savior, and he may thus obtain the a human one, and by associating forgiveness of all his past sins herself with a people who had not Such an one may then turn around been baptized into Jesus Christ, and hence whose society constituted no and virtually reject the authority part of the “ one body.” We would of Christ by wearing a human name like to ask the editor of the Index and associating himself with a if he would have baptized her and society which forms no part of the received her into the Baptist church Church of Christ. Now because under these circumstances? We pause for an answer.— Christian such an one did not formally unite with that peculiar people nicknamed Ilerald. The Ilerald uses its “ say and un “ Campbellites,” his baptism is none say” in this paragraph, with a the less valid so far as his past sins facility remarkable even in a paper are concerned. He is simply an of its sect. The question is, whether baptism avails for the remission of erring Christian, and this is the sins »without joining the “Camp class we are calling out of Babylon bellies ?” The Herald answers, first, when we plead for Christian union. that joining the “ Campbellites ” is On the othpr hand, a person may not necessary to this effect of bap come to baptism on a positive re tism. And then it answers that baptism practically amounted to fusal to be satisfied with simply nothing to the lady in question, being baptized into Christ and his (and, of course, did not “ secure re Church, and with no higher pur mission,” which, so to speak,- is pose in view than to be baptized everything,) because “ instead of into a sectarian body. Such a per being satisfied with simply the — Church of Christ, she avowed her son is not prepared for baptism, and purpose to virtually forsake her hence his sins are not forgiven, not because he docs not join the “Camp bellite ” church, but because he does not come to the ordinance in the proper spirit of obedience to the -Divine- condition of the lady in question. We insist that it is a legitimate question to ask the editor of the Index if he. would have baptized that lady and received her into the Baptist church under the circum stances ? It is true we believe into Christ; but as we are also baptized into Christ it follows that we do not get into him by by- both of these fi'dtT Hence the Savior inseparably conn^feted them with salvation in his last com- mision. Are we not baptized spiritually, as well as formally, into Christ ? Or does the Index believe that baptism is a mere formal act without a spiritual significance ? Selections and Comments. M aking I dols .—The Christian at Work says: Attention is being directed to the fact that the wooden and iron idols worshipped in Africa and India are being largely manufactured in England, and that they are not un frequently shipped in the same ship fogy mind. Why was the fasting omitted, that Scriptural example made so prominent ? and why did sisters take a part in the laying on of hands ? Will the dear sisters tne e old t.who-are sojuobly manning th iy localities, ship of Zion in man pardon this inquiry ? We are get- ting “ used to” so many new things in this progressive age, that I have no doubt but a young man like myself will get “ used to ” this also. The effort of our religious teachers is no longer to see how nearly We can adhere to the simplicity of gospel teaching and practice, but to see how many new things an en lightened judgment, and a broad Fl 11 -apiwi nan Aral that can be pressed into the unwrit- tien church ritual, and positively forbidden, in God’s worcTT Such leaders are practically ignoring, and professedly so in some cases, the silence of the Scriptures as a pro "híbiíory principié. This was the- initial step taken by. the Jews in their departure from the Mosaic teaching, by the Catholics in adding to the word of God, upon whom rests the anathemas of heaven, and by all who come to teach for doc- trine, the commandments of men. _ The communion service followed the ordination, and was presided over by Elder David Walk, of Indianapolis. Here again, the an-/ cient order of breaking the loaf after giving thanks was improved upon by following the thanksgiving with two stanzas of a song. Two more stanzas wefe*_proj^Sr be-^ ' tween the thanksgiving and the ' cup. In one thing I was disappointed, and that was, that the solemnity of the eatiDg and the drinking was not improved by the slow, low, solemn piainssimo tones of the organ, in measureless meaningless cadences. As this prevails in some quarters, I fully expected it in the most im proved stylish service at the sacri ficial altar. • Greely said to the young man who would keep pace with the onward march of the em pire, to go West. Let me say, that if the young preacher of the South desire to keep up with the advanced religious thought of the age, par ticularly of the new orthodox Christian denomination, let him go North. C. C. C. • i 1 i 1 • TT tracts. It is claimed that they are not made by the same parties, so that the charge of inconsistency does not lie against them. But there is strong presumptive evi dence that the idols are made by confessedly Christian men, -which is as inconsistent as the sad fact of which we have some' knowledge, that more than one trustee of a Total Abstinence Society is given to bibulous habits. Any thing for the dollar. But a nation that is annually engaged in shipping large amounts of opium to heathen China, against the solemn protest of a large portion of its in habitants,at the same time knowing the terribly sad effect it is having on those people, can be regarded as none too Christian in their ideas to manufacture and ship idols A G ood W ord to P arents .— to the idolators of Africa, provided The Christian at Work makes this there is any money in it. , valuable suggestion relative to the proper training of children. Let S trange T hings .—Bro. C. C every one read it carefully : Cline, publisher of the Old Path Parents often make a grave mis Guide, visited the Island Park En take jn failing to picture a pure campment, and from his report of and lofty ideal of character before the proceedings, during which our their children for imitation. The child should be taught to regard six missionaries were ordained for achievement of noble deeds rather Japan and India, we clip the fol than wealth or fame or power as lowing extract: the legitimate object of ambition. Thus closed, very impressively, The foremost man of England to- the ordination services. 1 can not day is precisely the one whose ideas forbear mentioning two queries that of “duty ” arc sternest and ever obtruded theniscl.ves into my old active as the sources of his official V T . 1 ■ iVL, - ’Jf 4* ÿ*' tetó i A -T