Christian herald. (Portland ;) 1882-18??, September 21, 1883, Page 5, Image 5

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primitive Christians to observe the
weekly communion ?
2. Is such an observance at the
present day in harmony with the
Chifistian’i’etigton ? ~----- ---------
3. If so, what good reason can be
offered for not following the exam­
ple of the primitive churches ?
4 If not, what was their custom
in reference to the communion ?”
When he gets through with these
we may have something more to
say.
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Christ and his church by refusing
to bear his name and accepting a
human one, and by associating her­
self* with a people wrho had not
_been baptized into Jesus Christ, and
Hence whose society constituted nu
part of the ‘ one body ’ ”—language
which means precisely that she did
not join the“ Camphellites !” Whether
we would have baptized that lady,
is new and foreign matter, in no
way connected with the question
at issue, and introduced probably to
lead from it or cover up and hide
it.—Paul says indeed that we are
“ baptized into Christbut it is
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also said in Scripture (as in Jno.
THAT BAPTISM AGAIN.
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Our brother of the Christian In­ —eis— into Him, thus teachin^That
dex is still in trouble, over that lady we must first believe into Christ
we refused to baptize. We clip the spiritually before ~we are baptized
into him formally. To our view,
following from the.last number :
remission is secured not by the
The Oregon Christian Herald formal but by the spiritual entrance
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by a “ Campbellite ” minister, some
The Index has now “ used ” its
years ago, “ practically amounted
to nothing,” because she did not join “say and unsay,” and it is remark­
the “ Campbellites.” What! Did able to us that a man possessing
it not avail “ for the remission of the acumen us fl ally manifested by
sins” to her? Must we join the the editor of the Index will allow
“ Campbellites ” to secure remission?
himself to unconsciously fall into
—Christ ian Index.
No sir, it is not necessary to join such fallacious reasoning as the
the “ Campbellite church ” to secure above. The point that he tries to
remission; but we are inclined to make on Us stated in syllogistic
think from the reading of the form is about as follows : *
Scriptures that it is necessary to get
he sins of the lady in question
into Jesus Christ to secure it, and
___ Paul tells us that we are baptized were not remitted in her baptism,
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into
baptism alorvef crv
like faith alone, does not secure re­ church.
Therefore joining the
mission. It requires something “ Campbellite ” church is necessary
more than mere immersion. The
subject must be properly prepared to the remission of sinsj__ Now our
by possessing the other Scripture position is just this : A person may
qualifications. The trouble with realize his lost condition and that
the lady referred to was, that she faith in Christ and obedience to his
did not possess these pre requisites. will are necessary to save him ; and
Instead of being satisfied with sim­
ply the Church of Christ, she avow­ may thus proceed to the ordinance
ed her purpose to virtually forsake of baptism, not to join a sectarian
her Christ and his Church by refus­ Church but simply to obey the
ing to wear his name and accepting Savior, and he may thus obtain the
a human one, and by associating forgiveness of all his past sins
herself with a people who had not Such an one may then turn around
been baptized into Jesus Christ, and
hence whose society constituted no and virtually reject the authority
part of the “ one body.” We would of Christ by wearing a human name
like to ask the editor of the Index and associating himself with a
if he would have baptized her and society which forms no part of the
received her into the Baptist church Church of Christ. Now because
under these circumstances? We
pause for an answer.— Christian such an one did not formally unite
with that peculiar people nicknamed
Ilerald.
The Ilerald uses its “ say and un­ “ Campbellites,” his baptism is none
say” in this paragraph, with a the less valid so far as his past sins
facility remarkable even in a paper are concerned. He is simply an
of its sect. The question is, whether
baptism avails for the remission of erring Christian, and this is the
sins »without joining the “Camp­ class we are calling out of Babylon
bellies ?” The Herald answers, first, when we plead for Christian union.
that joining the “ Campbellites ” is On the othpr hand, a person may
not necessary to this effect of bap­ come to baptism on a positive re­
tism. And then it answers that
baptism practically amounted to fusal to be satisfied with simply
nothing to the lady in question, being baptized into Christ and his
(and, of course, did not “ secure re­ Church, and with no higher pur­
mission,” which, so to speak,- is pose in view than to be baptized
everything,) because “ instead of into a sectarian body. Such a per­
being satisfied with simply the
— Church of Christ, she avowed her son is not prepared for baptism, and
purpose to virtually forsake her hence his sins are not forgiven, not
because he docs not join the “Camp­
bellite ” church, but because he does
not come to the ordinance in the
proper spirit of obedience to the
-Divine-
condition of the lady in question.
We insist that it is a legitimate
question to ask the editor of the
Index if he. would have baptized
that lady and received her into the
Baptist church under the circum­
stances ?
It is true we believe into Christ;
but as we are also baptized into
Christ it follows that we do not
get into him by
by-
both of these fi'dtT Hence the
Savior inseparably conn^feted them
with salvation in his last com-
mision.
Are we not baptized
spiritually, as well as formally, into
Christ ? Or does the Index believe
that baptism is a mere formal act
without a spiritual significance ?
Selections and Comments.
M aking I dols .—The Christian
at Work says:
Attention is being directed to the
fact that the wooden and iron idols
worshipped in Africa and India are
being largely manufactured in
England, and that they are not un
frequently shipped in the same ship
fogy mind. Why was the fasting
omitted, that Scriptural example
made so prominent ? and why did
sisters take a part in the laying on
of hands ? Will the dear sisters
tne e old
t.who-are sojuobly manning th
iy
localities,
ship of Zion in man
pardon this inquiry ? We are get-
ting “ used to” so many new things
in this progressive age, that I have
no doubt but a young man like
myself will get “ used to ” this also.
The effort of our religious teachers
is no longer to see how nearly We
can adhere to the simplicity of
gospel teaching and practice, but to
see how many new things an en­
lightened judgment, and a broad
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that can be pressed into the unwrit-
tien church ritual, and positively
forbidden, in God’s worcTT Such
leaders are practically ignoring, and
professedly so in some cases, the
silence of the Scriptures as a pro­
"híbiíory principié. This was the-
initial step taken by. the Jews in
their departure from the Mosaic
teaching, by the Catholics in adding
to the word of God, upon whom
rests the anathemas of heaven, and
by all who come to teach for doc-
trine, the commandments of men.
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The communion service followed
the ordination, and was presided
over by Elder David Walk, of
Indianapolis. Here again, the an-/
cient order of breaking the loaf
after giving thanks was improved
upon by following the thanksgiving
with two stanzas of a song. Two
more stanzas wefe*_proj^Sr be-^ '
tween the thanksgiving and the '
cup.
In one thing I was disappointed,
and that was, that the solemnity of
the eatiDg and the drinking was not
improved by the slow, low, solemn
piainssimo tones of the organ, in
measureless meaningless cadences.
As this prevails in some quarters, I
fully expected it in the most im­
proved stylish service at the sacri­
ficial altar. • Greely said to the
young man who would keep pace
with the onward march of the em­
pire, to go West. Let me say, that
if the young preacher of the South
desire to keep up with the advanced
religious thought of the age, par­
ticularly of the new orthodox
Christian denomination, let him go
North.
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tracts. It is claimed that they are
not made by the same parties, so
that the charge of inconsistency
does not lie against them. But
there is strong presumptive evi­
dence that the idols are made by
confessedly Christian men, -which
is as inconsistent as the sad fact of
which we have some' knowledge,
that more than one trustee of a
Total Abstinence Society is given
to bibulous habits.
Any thing for the dollar. But a
nation that is annually engaged in
shipping large amounts of opium to
heathen China, against the solemn
protest of a large portion of its in­
habitants,at the same time knowing
the terribly sad effect it is having
on those people, can be regarded as
none too Christian in their ideas
to manufacture and ship idols
A G ood W ord to P arents .—
to the idolators of Africa, provided The Christian at Work makes this
there is any money in it. ,
valuable suggestion relative to the
proper training of children. Let
S trange T hings .—Bro. C. C every one read it carefully :
Cline, publisher of the Old Path
Parents often make a grave mis­
Guide, visited the Island Park En­ take jn failing to picture a pure
campment, and from his report of and lofty ideal of character before
the proceedings, during which our their children for imitation. The
child should be taught to regard
six missionaries were ordained for
achievement of noble deeds rather
Japan and India, we clip the fol­ than wealth or fame or power as
lowing extract:
the legitimate object of ambition.
Thus closed, very impressively, The foremost man of England to-
the ordination services. 1 can not day is precisely the one whose ideas
forbear mentioning two queries that of “duty ” arc sternest and ever
obtruded theniscl.ves into my old active as the sources of his official
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