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3. We fellowship all Christians
simple fact that no one who respects vine authority, Besides, in the Spirit.
3. It is true that Paul elsewhere without regard to any creed or con
the plain and positive teaching of same verse where it is said that the
the Bible on the question, will daughters shall prophesy, it is' also speaks of certain good women who fession of faith * save the Bible.
think of denying. On this point said that the young men shall see labored with him in the gospel; The denominations will not receive
any one into full fellowship unless
-Bru. Aluoie tljlly says: “It is visions and the old men shall dream but it is nowhere said that they did
he accepts their creed. No one can
readily granted that her work, in “(tfeams.'*' fibw it-ni.
many respects, is different from because the women were to There are many ways of helping preach in their churches without
man’s. Men and women ar$ not prophesy, that it was t‘d be done in one to labor in the gospel, and we adopting the creed of the church
alike. This is simply a fac^, and it the public assemblies, then by the believe that all women are required and abiding by it. These human
is quite unnecessary for the advo same logic we will have to contend to labor in some way. The writer creeds, by being thus made tests of
cates of what is technically called that the visions were seen and the“ saysj-' Prieilla was. Baul’a hrlpeii.iu. fellowship, divide God’s people.
* Woman’s Rights,’ to get out of dreaming was done jalso in the Christ Jesus.” That is true, but Who is the more radical hero ?
humor about it. Nature and the public assemblies ! And again, the Tiow did slie Iielp him; and pi'PSBh" - 41—Wo i Mnnnivp,, uiitu,L invite.. all
Bible alike recognize a difference, Spirit was to be poured out .on all the gospel ? We answer, By taking Christians, wherever found, to the
and it is surely the part of wisdom flesh, and hence the servants as such men as Apollos aside and pri Lords table, while the denomina
in us to listen to these teachers well as the handmaids were to vately teaching them the way of tions exclude all except those of
Still, it does not follow from this prophesy. Now who can Relieve God more perfectly. She didn’t get their “ own faith and order.” They
admission, that either one or the that all these parties were to do up in the synagogue and reply to acknowledge many of ttTWl? WlTOIH 11
other is to be regarded as a cipher. their prophesying in the public his preaching, although he had not they exclude to be true Christians.
They supplement each other’s meetings ' What proves too much learned the first principles of the Where is the Radicalism found in
work; and hence the circle of proves nothing. We think Bro gospel of Christ. Phebe was a this case ?
human duty is not complete with McGarvey is entirely correct when deaconess in the church, but not a * 5. We receive all people into our
So too the good churches on a simple confession of
out the labor of both. The Church, he says: “ I remark, that the preacheress.
especially, lias use for the active prophecy of Joel, so far as it refers women w<*i;e the first to preach the their faith in Christ and obedience
exercise of the talents of all its to women, was a mere prediction rison Lord, but not in the public toTiis will, whereas ¿he denomina
tions often require weeks and
members. And should any one that in the Christian period some assemblies.
In conclusion then, let it be re months of mourning and agonizing,
have but one talent, it is no reason of them should prophesy. This,
why this should be buried, untiT some of theurdiii while miracul o us Jtu u iil uirn xl- Ü i aî t lio i mw thing t.he and a long “ experience of grace"
the day of reckoning cpmes.” This gifts continued; but the term Scriptures forbid is the public ad and then only get in on six month’s”
question then, as all others, is to be prophesy in the Scriptures in- dresses in the churches, and that probation ! How is this for radi
settled in the light of the Bible, veriably means to speak by in singing, S. S. teaching and such calism ?
tn -throw ftw ay all
spiration, and for this reason the like are notiflütTntëd*inthe ques
nature and commonsense.
1. Bro. Moore’s first argument is prediction of Joel has nothing to do tion. So in the rnuin we think the human creeds, destroy all denomi
based on the prophecy of Joel as with our present question. This position of Bro. McGarvey is Scrip national ism and meet and fellow
ship all God’s people on the Bible
quoted by Peter in Acts 2 : 16-18, question is to be settled by apos tural and hence consistent..
alone, and thus have but one church.
It is there said, “ And it shall come tolic teaching, atid by that alone.”
___ They are not jHing to do this.
to pass in the last days, saith God, • 2. Our brother next proceeds to
It is sometimes said by the de Where then does the -radicalism
I will pour out of my Spirit upon give us the meaning of prophesy.
all flesh; and your sons and your He goes to 1 Cor. 14: 3, where nominations that we, as a religious rest ?
daughters shall prophesy, ami your Paul teaches that to prophesy is to body of people, are too “ radical,”
young men shall see visions and “speak to edification, exhortation, whatever that word may mean. Selections and Comments.
your old men shall dream dreams. and comfort.” But he forgot to Now we take occasion to say that
D imensions of H eaven . It is
And on my servants and on my tell us that to prophesy .in this we are in fact about the most lib
sometimes said by ignorant skeptics
handmaidens J will pour out in passage means move than this. It eral and consistent people on earth.
and infidels that the New Jerusa
those days of my Spirit, and they means to speak by the mircicuZoifs In order that this may l>e seen it is
lem spoken of in the book of
shall prophesy.” Here it is posi gift of the Holy Spirit, and as no only necessary to briefly compare
Revelation will not I xj large enough
tively stated that the daughters woman can so speak now, it is our position with that of our relig-
to hold all. the. people who might go
and the handmaidens were to reasonable to suppose that the time 4ous weighbors.
1. Wc are governed in all mat- to heaven. Let all such read the
prophesy. From this Bro. Moore of such prophesying has passed
following from an exchange :
draws the conclusion that this Now any one who will read all ters of faith and discipline by the
“ In my Father’s house are many
prophesying was done in the public this chapter will readily see that Bible alone, and are willing to re mansions.”— Jesus.
assembly, and as it was allowed whatever the word prophesy ceive into our full fellowship as
“ And he measured the city with
then, so it is Scriptural in all ages. means in the third verse, that this true Christians all who do likewise. the reed twelve thousand furlongs.
Now that the Spirit, according to same -prophesying is forbidden of Can any one object to this ? ~ Or is The length, and the breadth, and
the bight of it are equal.”—Rev.
the promise, was poured out on the the women in t'cc thirty-fourth there any one more liberal ?
2. We are willing to receive into xxi-
women, as well as the men, anti that verse. And not only in the church
Twelve thousand furlongs, 7,920,-
some of them did' prophesy is at Corinth, but as the Apostle full fellowship all who are simply 000 feet, which being cubed, 496,-
positively certain; but the idea teaches,, in the churches. Then Christians, disciples of Chfist, 793,088,000,000,000,000 cubic feet.
that this prophesying was done in whatever Bro.-Moore may make brethren and members of the One Reserving half of this space for the
the public assembly, is without the out of his definition taken from Body, of which Christ is the one throne and the court of heaven,
and half the balance for streets, we
least evidence in the Bible. The this chapter, that same thing was Head, wherever found. The de have the remainder of 124,198,272,-
brother’s conclusion does not prohibited on the part of the nominations require more than this 000,000,000,000 cubic feet. Divide
logically* and Scripturally follow women in the churches generally. as conditions of fellowship. You this by 4,096, the cubical feet in a
from his premises, and hence his Besides, if the Apostle could not must not only l>e a Christian, but room si x teen feet square? arid thrro
fallacy. We have an account of allow the women who might possess you must be.a Methodist, Baptist, will l>e
now suppose the
women prophesying in the time of the miraculous gift of the Spirit to Presbyterian, Episcopalian, etc., in world always did and always will
the apostles; but the Scriptures speak in the public assemblies, order to be received into their full contain 990,000,000 inhabitants and
Who possesses the I that a generation lasts 33) years,
nowhere teach that they ever much less would he allow them to fellowship.
i making in all 2,970,000,000, every
prophesyed inJhc churches by di do so without the guidance of the I radicalism at this point ?