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. TIHOPwEGON STATESMAN, SALEM, OREGON TUESDAY MORNING, JULY 2f, 1023 AUTO LlftES AR PRQBE! TO STRIKING STUDY OF MEN DECIDING SCOPES CASE HATES AD CIIARfiES TO BE 'INVESTIGATED SOON The public service commission, ubon its own motlonfhas beeun an I Investigation of stae and track fined which, according to inform er 'complaints received. have charged unreasonable rates. " ? ,The ' lines ' under investigation Include ths Whittle. Transfer com pany' operating ' In . Washington county; the llillsborq ' Transfer company: Corst &' King operating ; between Marshf ield ; ffnd : Rose- burg; Oregon .States, operating fiorn Portland south over the Pa cini: highway; Poftland-HiHsboro-McMlnnville Stages; Howard & Grimes. ' operating' between Med- . ford 'and ; Klamath Palls; Inter- . urban - Stage Co., operating be tween, Aahland and Roseburg; Camas Stage Co., operating., be tween Portland and Camas; Coast ).: Auto Lines, operating t between Coqnillle-Crescent City and Grants f-aBs; 'Portland-Newberg-McMlnn- vllle-Tlltamook Stages; Portland- . fealem-Albany Stages. " a... BRYAH TAKES STAND ' IM( EVOLUTION TRIAL (Coatlahed from pC 1.) has the right to hope," . .The eourt haa withheld , any action until passion bad pe to subside and it could be arranged that the Jury would be kept sep arate and. apart from the proceed ings so as. not to know of the mat ter concerning which1 the iourt'fe about to speak. l'';!v5; ; "-Men may becdme1ifomiriettti but they should never rfeet them selves superior to the t law or to Justice. ,' :'s "'- c ri-t.'.' i'.n" :- "He who would hurl contempt 1 constitutes a contempt, but I am into the records of my court !n-jaulte certaii the remark should suits and outrage the good people! not have been made, and the court of one ot the greatest states of the could not help taking notice of It, Union a state which on account and A am sorry that I . made of its loyalty haa Justly won for fever since L itself "the- title of the volunteer I and ? I want ; This striking photo of the Jury which is hearing the case of John T? Scopes, Dayton, Tenn., teacher, charged with teaching evolution against the statutes of that state, shows vividly the type of men who are deciding tne case. Standing right, W. G-. Taylor, farmer and at the extreme left Is Sheriff r. B.Methodist; J. H. Bowman, farmer, Harris. At the extreme right is cablet maker and Methodist; Jadge John Raulston. whp is pre-J- R. Thompson, farmer, ex-mar-siding. 'The Jurors photographed shal and Methodist; W. G. Day, above are: ", Front row. state.' . ". '-.'--'..'- - : "It, has been my policy on the bench to be cautious to endeavor to avoid hostility and rashly msh- Ing to ironcluslons. But; in - the face of what I consider an unjus-l it, got - time to read it, to apologize to the court for it - Judge - Raulston, in aecepting the apology, said: . . "The Man that, I believe came Into the world to save men from sin.' the Man that died on .the titled expression of. contempt for cross 'that men might be redeem- thls, court and its decrees,, made e(j taught that it was Godly to by -Clarence Darrow on'JuJy 17, 1 forgive and were it not for the feel . that further- 'forbearanco forgiving nature of God Himself, would cease to. be a virtue and la J i W6uld fear for man an effort to protect the gpod name I i accept Colonel Darrow's of my, state,- and to . protectfthe apology." dtsnity of the court over which 11 .Admitted agnosticism met fun preside, I am constrained and im-1 damentallst as Clarence Darrow, palled to, cat, upon the said Mr. I defense attorney in the Scopes Darrow to know what he; has to I evolution case, drew out William say 4 why be should not .be dealt J Jennings Bryan, associate prose with for contempt. , ''..- cutlon counsel, npbn ' the witness 'Therefore, I order that instant-1 stand. " . u er .citation from this court oe serr-1 . . Hundreds of men and women, td upon the said Clarence Darrow, drawn from the peaceful hilla and requiring him to appear In this valleys for miles around, pushed Court at ' 9 o'clock . Ttteadaj and close 1 to the , rough wooden plat make . answer': to : this citation." form ' behind the court house .as ri The court fixed. bond at 15000, the verbal swords of the two Frank Spurlock, . a Chattanooga I clashed time and again, sending left to farmer, Baptist; R. L. Gentry, farmer, ex-teacher and Baptist; R, L. West, farmer, Baptist. Back row, J. G. Wright, farmer. Baptist; J. B. Goodrich, shipping clerk. Church of Christ; J. W.-Riley, Baptist: J. W. Bagley, farmer; W. F. Roberson, farmer. Chief of.P-ensions-. Bureau a "Vet" attorney arranging this to the sat; isfaction of the court, . . f off flashes that drew -volleys of handclapping and booming moun- 7, When court convened after the taln tox calls. recess,. Attorney General Stewart announced that he had conferred with members of defense counsel following the citation and . Mr. Darrow desired to make a . state ment. 1 . ; r ; . : "f- '-Ot course, your Honor will re member,".,, said Darrow, "that whatever took place . was , hurried; yne thing following another and the truth is, I did not know Just how it looked until I read over the, minutes as your Honor did, I was sorry I had said 1U . " ; "'On Friday I de'rm:ned Imme diately on reading it over,- to tell . A .alienee, . broken only by the rustling of the maple trees, set tled .over the crowd as Arthur Garfield Hays announced ' the in tention Of the. defense to call Bryan to the witness stand. The purpose was explained later by; Mr. Darrow. as an effort to "show the people what f undamen talism is." Bryan arose from the witness stand to tell Darrow, the Judge and the assembled spectat ors ; tnat its purpose was to cast "slurs upon the Bible." , The nature of the examination brought Attorney General A. T. Stewart and! other members of cu "widely, from the great mass as here, -"but" nevertheless he had never been treated better, kindlier or. more hospitably, ! " r Personally, ; i 'don't think it Mention Burton as 'Resignation of Mellow Is Tjalked ' ' - thft,court Just wat 1 thought this tne prpSeCutlon counsel to "their morning. ; In tie meantime, I had Ieet time after time to Interpose se,cn one apei which atated that objections. ; Frequently , it; even the court tnour;nt tnat I was try-1 cauged Darrow to arise with ob- In to. get in ! position ; where I jectiohs as the witness proceeded wpuld pi new in contempt." - j to direct the course himself. He continued tnat ne naa never, 'JFa cm mv utratnd . ani Una perhaps. been ' In a community j tightened among the spectators at whsre -his rellLlous Ideas differed the apparent Irreverence of some of the questions' and they arose to cheer as the 'witness waived aside the protection of the Judge with the declaration: '".-' -v :,- "These genltemen have not had much chance. They didn't come here to try this case.' They, came here to try revealed religion. am here to defend it and they can ask me any questions they please, As it proceeded insinuations ceased to be insinuations, and be came either unveiled sarcasm or pointed irony until argument suc: ceedrng , argument a fresh one tnreatened to -arouse -; more con troversial remarks than any of the preceding .ones and Judge Raul- eton adjourned for the day with several. members - of . both the prosecution and the defense coun sel on their feet and hot words on their tongues;,: '. j - - The questioning began with the usual qualifying questions for the expert witnesses, and after Bryan had announced ; his . intention of calling to the stand Darrow, Ma lone and Hays. s". v v ' - The witness said that he had made considerable study - ot the Bible including its Interpretation on the particular question In rolved.. : -i :- " s VDo you claim that everything in the Bible should be literally in terpreted?" h4:i-f-r.J.J' y- "I believe that everytElng In the Bible should be accepted as it Is given there, Some of the Bible is given , illustratively. For in stance, Ye are the . salt of' the earth . I wouldn't insist that man was actually ; salt or that he had flesh of salt, but it is used in the sense of salt as saving God" people." "But when you read that Jonah ..V ft i :. ) i YasLir.-ton is discussing ru mors that Andrew Mellon will tts'tl as secretary -of the trcas ' cry. Rep. Theodore' E. Burton 'cf OlAo (iuovc), beih iden t:"-?i as Us rrclalle iuccusor. - t - t. -s - I 1 Winficld 1 Scott, ; OklanoiM, new U. S. commissioner bf pen- alons, is a Spanish war and na tional guard veteran, who holds 1 reserve commission as colonel. swallowed the whale or , that the whale swallowed Jonah excuse me, please, how do you I literally interpret that?" . : j When that I read a! big fish swallowed Jonah it does not say whale.". . ... j ., " :, "Doesn't It? Are you 'sure?" "Tliat is my recollection of it. A big fish and I believe it, and I believe in a God who can make a whale and. can make i a man and can . make . both do what he pleases." : " " Other interrogation along the same . line followed until tne query: V . ; !". ' You don't know whether it was il . a. . I . a . j - iue orumarj ruu oi iisa or maue for that purpose?" ' 1 You may guess, iou evolu tionists guess,' responded the wit ness . , n 4 ... . j nut wnen we ao guess, we have the sense to guess right." "But do not do it often." , ' "You are prepared to say whe ther that f Ish was made especially to swallow a' man or not?" ?No, the Bible doesn't say." "But you believe he made them, that he made such a fish and that it was big ; enough to swallow Jonah?" ' ' .; ! ; ; "Yes, sir, let, me add,! one mir. acle is Just as easy to believe as another." :: - . A suggestion from Darrow that one . was as hard for him to be lieve as another brought an imme diate response: - , . . . , "It is hard. to believe for you but easy tor me. , A miracle is thing performed beyond what man can perform. - When you get be yond . what man can do, you - get within the realm of miracles;' and it is Just as easy to believe the miracle of Jonah as any other mir acle in the Bible." , ' - ' "You believe the story of the flood to be literal Interpretation?" "Yes, sir." . When was that flood?" , . I would not attempt to fix the date. The date is ' fixed as suggested this mornlng.'t , "About 4004 B. C?" 7 ' . "That has'been the estimate of a man that Is accepted today, would not say it Is accurate." "That estimate is printed In the Bible?" . ' "Everybody knows, at least think most of the people know that was the estimate given."1 Other questions followed along tne same line until Attorney Gen eral Stewart objected to the cross- examination by Darrow of hia own w.uuiss. tsryan, However, as sured the court that he desired the defense attorney to be given latitude, . "for I'm going to have some ., latitude when he gets through." Arising, he. addressed both the court and the crowd "These gentlemen have not had much chance. They did not come here to try this case. They' came here to try revealed religion. v I am here to defend it and they can ask me any questions they please." ; Applause from ' the spectators brought an - Interchange of re mark's between the attorney and the witness which concluded with the declaration of Darrow that "you insult every man of science and learning In the world because he does not believe in you? . fool religion." - Another objection came from the attorney general, who assert ed that Darrow was making an effort. to insult the witness. Judge Raulston, however. Indicated that he did not wish to be purely tech nical and allowed the examination to continue. . . . .. ' V An effort to establish the date of the flood,. Bryan asserting that the Bible gave the date as about 2348 years B. C. You believe that all the living things that were not contained in the ark were destroyed?" I think the fish may have lived." "I am asking you whether you believe?" : "i do." As both interrogations and re plies became faster and shorter, the .attorney general was brought forward again to ask the purpose of the examination. j "The purpose is to cast ridicule on everybody who believes in the Bible and I am willing that the world shall know that these gen uemen nave no other purpose than ridiculing every person who believes in the Bible.", declared Bryan. ., - , - , "We have the purpose of pre venting of bigots and ignoramuses from controlling the education of the United States, and you know it, that is all." fired back Darrow The two faced each other on the platform. ine witness asserted I am simply trying to protect the word of God against the greatest atheist or agnostic in the United States I want the paper to know that I am not afraid' to get on the stand in front ot him and let him do his worst. I want the world to know that agnosticism is trying to force agnosticism on our, colleges and on our schools and the people ot Tennessee will not permit it to be done.'. i , A general argument seemed im mfnent. ; . ;' .' - Sue RV Hicks, Attorney General Stewart, Bryan, Darrow, Hays and Malone were drawn across the platform and heated words were fired . ack and forth. - Judge Raulston allowed the examination to " continue, The examination continued with the question: "Mr. Bryan, do you believe that the first woman was Eve?" ; "Yes." V ' : - "Do you believe she was liter ally made out of Adam's rib?" "I do." , ' "Did you ever" discover where Cain got his wife?" - "No, sir, I leave the agnostics to hunt for her." '. -.."Where she came from you do hot know. -'All right. Does the statement, 'the morning and the -evening -were the, first day, and the morning and the evening were the second day' mean anything to you?" ' " ; "I do not think It necessarily means a 24 hour day." " "Do you believe the story of the temptation of Eve by the ser pent?" , -f "I do." "And too believe that is the reason that Gpd made the serpent to go on his belly after be tempt ed Eve?"-- '- -: ' ; "I believe the Bible as It Is. and I do .not permit you to put your language in tne place of tne lan guage of the Almighty. You read that Bible and ask me questions and I will answer them; I will not answer your questions in your language." . , '1 will read it to you from the Bible: 'And the Lord God said unto the serpent, because thou hast done this, thou art " cursed above all cattle and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go and dust shalt thy eat all the days ot thy life.' Do you think that la why the serpent is compelled to crawl upon its belly?" "I believe that." The examination concluded a moment later as Bryan arose and addressed the Judge and the audience: . "Your honor, I think I can shorten this testimony." The only purpose Mr. Darrow has Is to slur at the Bible, but I will answer his questions. I will answer it all at once.r l want, the world to know that this man who does not be lieve in a God is trying to use a court in Tennessee " . He was cut khort by Darrow's objection. ' 1 . "I object to your statement. I am examining you on your fool ideas, that no intelligent Christian on earth believes.". , ; " ; .. . As the crowd strained forward and the two faced each other, on the platform, the announcement by Judge Raulston that court was adjourned ended the argument. G. 6. p. Choice for Governor of N. J. ; i i : - Artificial flowers that have be come worn' and soiled can .be easily renewed by brushing the petals with oil paint mixed with gasoline. . '. Arthur H. Whitney, a state :nator, is the G: O. P. nominee rvT irovernor in New Jersey," He Sad Anti-Saloon Lea true, Ka KJ ux Klan and anti-"oreanixa- tion" support in the primary. : patronize the Statesman adver tisers. . 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