. TIHOPwEGON STATESMAN, SALEM, OREGON
TUESDAY MORNING, JULY 2f, 1023
AUTO LlftES AR PRQBE! TO STRIKING STUDY OF MEN DECIDING SCOPES CASE
HATES AD CIIARfiES TO BE
'INVESTIGATED SOON
The public service commission,
ubon its own motlonfhas beeun an I
Investigation of stae and track
fined which, according to inform
er 'complaints received. have
charged unreasonable rates.
" ? ,The ' lines ' under investigation
Include ths Whittle. Transfer com
pany' operating ' In . Washington
county; the llillsborq ' Transfer
company: Corst &' King operating
; between Marshf ield ; ffnd : Rose-
burg; Oregon .States, operating
fiorn Portland south over the Pa
cini: highway; Poftland-HiHsboro-McMlnnville
Stages; Howard &
Grimes. ' operating' between Med-
. ford 'and ; Klamath Palls; Inter-
. urban - Stage Co., operating be
tween, Aahland and Roseburg;
Camas Stage Co., operating., be
tween Portland and Camas; Coast
).: Auto Lines, operating t between
Coqnillle-Crescent City and Grants
f-aBs; 'Portland-Newberg-McMlnn-
vllle-Tlltamook Stages; Portland-
. fealem-Albany Stages. "
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BRYAH TAKES STAND '
IM( EVOLUTION TRIAL
(Coatlahed from pC 1.)
has the right to hope," .
.The eourt haa withheld , any
action until passion bad pe to
subside and it could be arranged
that the Jury would be kept sep
arate and. apart from the proceed
ings so as. not to know of the mat
ter concerning which1 the iourt'fe
about to speak. l'';!v5;
; "-Men may becdme1ifomiriettti
but they should never rfeet them
selves superior to the t law or to
Justice. ,' :'s "'- c ri-t.'.' i'.n" :-
"He who would hurl contempt 1 constitutes a contempt, but I am
into the records of my court !n-jaulte certaii the remark should
suits and outrage the good people! not have been made, and the court
of one ot the greatest states of the could not help taking notice of It,
Union a state which on account and A am sorry that I . made
of its loyalty haa Justly won for fever since L
itself "the- title of the volunteer I and ? I want
; This striking photo of the Jury
which is hearing the case of John
T? Scopes, Dayton, Tenn., teacher,
charged with teaching evolution
against the statutes of that state,
shows vividly the type of men who
are deciding tne case. Standing right, W. G-. Taylor, farmer and
at the extreme left Is Sheriff r. B.Methodist; J. H. Bowman, farmer,
Harris. At the extreme right is cablet maker and Methodist;
Jadge John Raulston. whp is pre-J- R. Thompson, farmer, ex-mar-siding.
'The Jurors photographed shal and Methodist; W. G. Day,
above are: ", Front row.
state.' . ". '-.'--'..'- -
: "It, has been my policy on the
bench to be cautious to endeavor
to avoid hostility and rashly msh-
Ing to ironcluslons. But; in - the
face of what I consider an unjus-l
it,
got - time to read it,
to apologize to the
court for it
- Judge - Raulston, in aecepting
the apology, said: . .
"The Man that, I believe came
Into the world to save men from
sin.' the Man that died on .the
titled expression of. contempt for cross 'that men might be redeem-
thls, court and its decrees,, made e(j taught that it was Godly to
by -Clarence Darrow on'JuJy 17, 1 forgive and were it not for the
feel . that further- 'forbearanco forgiving nature of God Himself,
would cease to. be a virtue and la J i W6uld fear for man
an effort to protect the gpod name I i accept Colonel Darrow's
of my, state,- and to . protectfthe apology."
dtsnity of the court over which 11 .Admitted agnosticism met fun
preside, I am constrained and im-1 damentallst as Clarence Darrow,
palled to, cat, upon the said Mr. I defense attorney in the Scopes
Darrow to know what he; has to I evolution case, drew out William
say 4 why be should not .be dealt J Jennings Bryan, associate prose
with for contempt. , ''..- cutlon counsel, npbn ' the witness
'Therefore, I order that instant-1 stand. " . u
er .citation from this court oe serr-1 . . Hundreds of men and women,
td upon the said Clarence Darrow, drawn from the peaceful hilla and
requiring him to appear In this valleys for miles around, pushed
Court at ' 9 o'clock . Ttteadaj and close 1 to the , rough wooden plat
make . answer': to : this citation." form ' behind the court house .as
ri The court fixed. bond at 15000, the verbal swords of the two
Frank Spurlock, . a Chattanooga I clashed time and again, sending
left to farmer, Baptist; R. L. Gentry,
farmer, ex-teacher and Baptist; R,
L. West, farmer, Baptist. Back
row, J. G. Wright, farmer. Baptist;
J. B. Goodrich, shipping clerk.
Church of Christ; J. W.-Riley,
Baptist: J. W. Bagley, farmer; W.
F. Roberson, farmer.
Chief of.P-ensions-.
Bureau a "Vet"
attorney arranging this to the sat;
isfaction of the court, . . f
off flashes that drew -volleys of
handclapping and booming moun-
7, When court convened after the taln tox calls.
recess,. Attorney General Stewart
announced that he had conferred
with members of defense counsel
following the citation and . Mr.
Darrow desired to make a . state
ment. 1 . ; r ; . :
"f- '-Ot course, your Honor will re
member,".,, said Darrow, "that
whatever took place . was , hurried;
yne thing following another and
the truth is, I did not know Just
how it looked until I read over
the, minutes as your Honor did, I
was sorry I had said 1U . "
; "'On Friday I de'rm:ned Imme
diately on reading it over,- to tell
. A .alienee, . broken only by the
rustling of the maple trees, set
tled .over the crowd as Arthur
Garfield Hays announced ' the in
tention Of the. defense to call
Bryan to the witness stand.
The purpose was explained later
by; Mr. Darrow. as an effort to
"show the people what f undamen
talism is." Bryan arose from the
witness stand to tell Darrow, the
Judge and the assembled spectat
ors ; tnat its purpose was to cast
"slurs upon the Bible."
, The nature of the examination
brought Attorney General A. T.
Stewart and! other members of
cu "widely, from the great mass as
here, -"but" nevertheless he had
never been treated better, kindlier
or. more hospitably, !
" r Personally, ; i 'don't think it
Mention Burton
as 'Resignation of
Mellow Is Tjalked
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thft,court Just wat 1 thought this tne prpSeCutlon counsel to "their
morning. ; In tie meantime, I had Ieet time after time to Interpose
se,cn one apei which atated that objections. ; Frequently , it; even
the court tnour;nt tnat I was try-1 cauged Darrow to arise with ob-
In to. get in ! position ; where I jectiohs as the witness proceeded
wpuld pi new in contempt." - j to direct the course himself.
He continued tnat ne naa never, 'JFa cm mv utratnd . ani Una
perhaps. been ' In a community j tightened among the spectators at
whsre -his rellLlous Ideas differed the apparent Irreverence of some
of the questions' and they arose to
cheer as the 'witness waived aside
the protection of the Judge with
the declaration: '".-' -v :,-
"These genltemen have not had
much chance. They didn't come
here to try this case.' They, came
here to try revealed religion.
am here to defend it and they can
ask me any questions they please,
As it proceeded insinuations
ceased to be insinuations, and be
came either unveiled sarcasm or
pointed irony until argument suc:
ceedrng , argument a fresh one
tnreatened to -arouse -; more con
troversial remarks than any of the
preceding .ones and Judge Raul-
eton adjourned for the day with
several. members - of . both the
prosecution and the defense coun
sel on their feet and hot words on
their tongues;,: '. j -
- The questioning began with the
usual qualifying questions for the
expert witnesses, and after Bryan
had announced ; his . intention of
calling to the stand Darrow, Ma
lone and Hays. s". v v ' -
The witness said that he had
made considerable study - ot the
Bible including its Interpretation
on the particular question In
rolved.. : -i :- "
s VDo you claim that everything
in the Bible should be literally in
terpreted?" h4:i-f-r.J.J' y-
"I believe that everytElng In
the Bible should be accepted as it
Is given there, Some of the Bible
is given , illustratively. For in
stance, Ye are the . salt of' the
earth . I wouldn't insist that man
was actually ; salt or that he had
flesh of salt, but it is used in the
sense of salt as saving God"
people."
"But when you read that Jonah
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YasLir.-ton is discussing ru
mors that Andrew Mellon will
tts'tl as secretary -of the trcas
' cry. Rep. Theodore' E. Burton
'cf OlAo (iuovc), beih iden
t:"-?i as Us rrclalle iuccusor.
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Winficld 1 Scott, ; OklanoiM,
new U. S. commissioner bf pen-
alons, is a Spanish war and na
tional guard veteran, who holds
1 reserve commission as colonel.
swallowed the whale or , that the
whale swallowed Jonah excuse
me, please, how do you I literally
interpret that?" . : j
When that I read a! big fish
swallowed Jonah it does not say
whale.". . ... j ., " :,
"Doesn't It? Are you 'sure?"
"Tliat is my recollection of it.
A big fish and I believe it, and I
believe in a God who can make a
whale and. can make i a man and
can . make . both do what he
pleases." : " "
Other interrogation along the
same . line followed until tne
query: V . ; !". '
You don't know whether it was
il . a. . I . a . j -
iue orumarj ruu oi iisa or maue
for that purpose?" ' 1
You may guess, iou evolu
tionists guess,' responded the wit
ness . , n 4 ... . j
nut wnen we ao guess, we
have the sense to guess right."
"But do not do it often." , '
"You are prepared to say whe
ther that f Ish was made especially
to swallow a' man or not?"
?No, the Bible doesn't say."
"But you believe he made them,
that he made such a fish and that
it was big ; enough to swallow
Jonah?" ' ' .; ! ;
; "Yes, sir, let, me add,! one mir.
acle is Just as easy to believe as
another." :: - .
A suggestion from Darrow that
one . was as hard for him to be
lieve as another brought an imme
diate response: - , . . . ,
"It is hard. to believe for you
but easy tor me. , A miracle is
thing performed beyond what man
can perform. - When you get be
yond . what man can do, you - get
within the realm of miracles;' and
it is Just as easy to believe the
miracle of Jonah as any other mir
acle in the Bible." , ' -
' "You believe the story of the
flood to be literal Interpretation?"
"Yes, sir." .
When was that flood?" ,
. I would not attempt to fix
the date. The date is ' fixed as
suggested this mornlng.'t ,
"About 4004 B. C?" 7
' . "That has'been the estimate of
a man that Is accepted today,
would not say it Is accurate."
"That estimate is printed In the
Bible?" . '
"Everybody knows, at least
think most of the people know
that was the estimate given."1
Other questions followed along
tne same line until Attorney Gen
eral Stewart objected to the cross-
examination by Darrow of hia own
w.uuiss. tsryan, However, as
sured the court that he desired
the defense attorney to be given
latitude, . "for I'm going to have
some ., latitude when he gets
through."
Arising, he. addressed both the
court and the crowd
"These gentlemen have not had
much chance. They did not come
here to try this case. They' came
here to try revealed religion. v I
am here to defend it and they can
ask me any questions they please."
; Applause from ' the spectators
brought an - Interchange of re
mark's between the attorney and
the witness which concluded with
the declaration of Darrow that
"you insult every man of science
and learning In the world because
he does not believe in you? . fool
religion." -
Another objection came from
the attorney general, who assert
ed that Darrow was making an
effort. to insult the witness. Judge
Raulston, however. Indicated that
he did not wish to be purely tech
nical and allowed the examination
to continue. . . . ..
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An effort to establish the date
of the flood,. Bryan asserting that
the Bible gave the date as about
2348 years B. C.
You believe that all the living
things that were not contained in
the ark were destroyed?"
I think the fish may have
lived."
"I am asking you whether you
believe?" :
"i do."
As both interrogations and re
plies became faster and shorter,
the .attorney general was brought
forward again to ask the purpose
of the examination. j
"The purpose is to cast ridicule
on everybody who believes in the
Bible and I am willing that the
world shall know that these gen
uemen nave no other purpose
than ridiculing every person who
believes in the Bible.", declared
Bryan. ., - , - ,
"We have the purpose of pre
venting of bigots and ignoramuses
from controlling the education of
the United States, and you know
it, that is all." fired back Darrow
The two faced each other on the
platform.
ine witness asserted I am
simply trying to protect the word
of God against the greatest atheist
or agnostic in the United States
I want the paper to know that I
am not afraid' to get on the stand
in front ot him and let him do his
worst. I want the world to know
that agnosticism is trying to force
agnosticism on our, colleges and
on our schools and the people ot
Tennessee will not permit it to be
done.'. i
, A general argument seemed im
mfnent. ; . ;' .'
- Sue RV Hicks, Attorney General
Stewart, Bryan, Darrow, Hays and
Malone were drawn across the
platform and heated words were
fired . ack and forth. - Judge
Raulston allowed the examination
to " continue, The examination
continued with the question:
"Mr. Bryan, do you believe that
the first woman was Eve?"
; "Yes." V ' : -
"Do you believe she was liter
ally made out of Adam's rib?"
"I do." , '
"Did you ever" discover where
Cain got his wife?"
- "No, sir, I leave the agnostics
to hunt for her." '.
-.."Where she came from you do
hot know. -'All right. Does the
statement, 'the morning and the
-evening -were the, first day, and
the morning and the evening were
the second day' mean anything to
you?" ' " ;
"I do not think It necessarily
means a 24 hour day." "
"Do you believe the story of the
temptation of Eve by the ser
pent?" , -f
"I do."
"And too believe that is the
reason that Gpd made the serpent
to go on his belly after be tempt
ed Eve?"-- '- -: ' ;
"I believe the Bible as It Is. and
I do .not permit you to put your
language in tne place of tne lan
guage of the Almighty. You read
that Bible and ask me questions
and I will answer them; I will
not answer your questions in your
language." . ,
'1 will read it to you from the
Bible: 'And the Lord God said
unto the serpent, because thou
hast done this, thou art " cursed
above all cattle and above every
beast of the field; upon thy belly
shalt thou go and dust shalt thy
eat all the days ot thy life.' Do
you think that la why the serpent
is compelled to crawl upon its
belly?"
"I believe that."
The examination concluded a
moment later as Bryan arose and
addressed the Judge and the
audience: .
"Your honor, I think I can
shorten this testimony." The only
purpose Mr. Darrow has Is to slur
at the Bible, but I will answer his
questions. I will answer it all at
once.r l want, the world to know
that this man who does not be
lieve in a God is trying to use a
court in Tennessee " .
He was cut khort by Darrow's
objection. ' 1
. "I object to your statement. I
am examining you on your fool
ideas, that no intelligent Christian
on earth believes.". , ; " ; ..
. As the crowd strained forward
and the two faced each other, on
the platform, the announcement
by Judge Raulston that court was
adjourned ended the argument.
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Governor of N. J.
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DASUfiK AUTOMOBILES
of them seriously, in aulqui(tl,n
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day. t .
In a collision on the Jff.rv,9
road just outside the city limit
Sunday night, a sedan driven ly
E. M. Graham, ot Portland, aaj
an automobile driven by K. p.
Hobsonr of Albany, Mr. and Mrs.
Graham and son, Robert, received
bruises and ; cuta"while their ve
hicle was badly wrecked. Th
Graham car was sent Into tbe
ditch and '- overturnHl. Hulon
escaped without Injury but bu
machlne was thrown through a
wire fence into a field. It was
bady damaged.
C. V. lakeley, of Eugene, re
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between hU automobile and one
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High about noon Sunday. Hi
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the Barr machine received but lit
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