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THE SUNDAY OREGONIAX, TORTLAND, JULY 18, 1915. SONS OF AMERICAN REVOLUTION TO MEET HERE THIS WEEK National Convention of Direct Descendants of Heroes of Coionial Days Opens Tomorrow Patriotic Address Tonight on Programme Lineal Histories of Delegates Interesting. v - I -""vU V'-sT -V.i ',v - 11 V-JI-i' , v I , I iv',":vv't,v Vi;,J('' 'PV1". -V"5V- II - f " - . . V- f I , ' I pf4&xi 'kr& -tV .-. II ?. . . I V. i j- I I- r -"', tVK -v v ' r y till ' ' t - ? I J a ' 'I II f . . . X' 'V C riRJ f;: . 1 . il ....... vi '- : .. . i V ' T ere" : . cfK s,:. - pected this number will be augmented? I y - i I " I r20" Ni V X - X vr; u . 'V - V- . " fir"''- 7 THE National convention of the Sons of the American Revolution opens in Portland today.. Many men of the most distinguished ances- 1 try will be in the city to attend the convention, which closes July 21. Mem bership in the society is restricted to men who are direct lineal descendants of those who placed their lives in jeop ardy by active resistance to the au thority of Great Uritain during the eight years of the Revolutionary War, either through service in the Continen tal army or as civil officers in the Rev olutionary government of one of the 13 colonies. The convention in Portland is the 26th annual gathering. Official headquarters and registration booth are at the Port land Hotel. The Sons of the American Revolution was organized in San Francisco after the Centennial parade of July 4. 1876, and was first called Sons of Revolu tionary Sires, from whence was or ganized in 1889 the California Society Sons of the American Revolution, which became part of the National society in that year. State societies exist in 43 states, the District of Columbia. Ha waii and France. The total member ship ofthe organization is 13,000. The officers of the society are: Rog ers Clark B. Thruston, of Kentucky, president-general; John H. Moore, United States Navy, retired, of Wash ington, D. C: Alvin W. WoMson, Ohio; Herman W. Fernberser, Pennsylvania; Lieutenant-Colonel M. W. Wood, United States Army, retired, of Idaho, and William K. Board man. of Tennessee, all vice-president-generals; John H. Bur rough, New York, treasurer-general; A. Howard Clark. Smithsonian Institute, Washington. D. C, register-general and secretary-general; David L. Pier son. New Jersey, historian-general, and Rev. William Force Whitaker, New "Jersey, chaplain-general. ISO Uelrcates Expected. The convention in Portland will bring at least 150 descendants of Rev olutionary patriots. There will be a large attendance of women, including wives and relatives of the Sons, and members of the Daughters of the American Revolution. Local commit tees of the Oregon society have pre pared a fitting programme of enter tainment. General Thomas M. Ander son, of Portland, was founder of the Oregon and Washington branches of the society. At the First Presbyterian Church to night Dr. John H. Boyd, chaplain of the Oregon branch, will deliver a pa triotic address to delegates. Local members of the organization will form in line at Yamhill and Sixth streets, at the Portland Hotel, and march to the services, escorted by Grand Army Veterans, Spanish-American War Vet erans and members of the Loyal Le gion. Business sessions of the convention will be held at the Masonic Temple, formally opening Monday at 10 A. M.. when Governor Withycoinbe will give the address of welcome. On behalf of the Oregon Society General Anderson will present to the convention a gavel made from hardwood from Chr.rnpoeg. Women to Be Kntertalned. The visiting women will be enter tained by Portland women. The com mittee is composed of Mrs. H. C. Cabell Mrs. William D. Wheelwright, Mrs. A. E. Rockey, Mrs. William C. Alvord and Mrs. Wallace McCamant. Monday night there will be a garden party and reception to National offi cers and delegates at the home of Dr. A. E. Rockey. Riverdale. Taxicabs will carry the delegates to the scene of the reception. Business meetings will be resumed Tuesday morning. In the afternoon the visitors will be taken for an auto ride about the city and its environs, terminating, at the Waverley Country Club, where afternoon tea will be served. Annual Banqnet Tneaday. On Tuesday night the annual ban quet will be spread at the Portland Ho tel. . The dinner will be given jotntly to delegates and the visiting women. Speakers will be Newell B. Woodworth Syracuse. N. Y.; W ill H. Thompson. Se attle: Chancellor L. Jenks, Chicago, and William D. Wheelwright. Portland. Wednesday morning at 9:15 o'clock members of the organization and visi tors will start on an auto trip over the Columbia River Highway to Bonne ville. At that place they -..ill be met by the steamer Undine aid the return to the city will be made by river. This will mark the end of the convention. The National Society of the Daugh ters of the American Revolution will be represented officially at the con vention by Mrs. A. Howard Clark, of Washington, D. C wife of the secre tary-general of the Sons of the Amerl can Revolution, because of the inability of the president of the women s orde to attend. R. C. Ballard Thruston, president-general. Sons of the Ameri can Revolution, will preside at the va rious sessions. The Arlington, University, Multnomah Amateur Athletic and the Waverley Country clubs have extended all courte sies to the delegates. The official badge of the convention is a replica of "The Coming of the White Man," the statue of which is In Washington Park. Delegates' TIames Received. Wallace McCamant, secretary of the Oregon Society, has received a list of delegates who will attend and it Is ex- Smith. Al- i nan; P. S McArthur. chairman pected this number will be augmented? later. Various states will be repre sented as follows, although additions will be made today to the list, as all registrations have not been received: California Thomas A. Perkins, tan tran- cisco. Colorado Simpson D. Butler. Clarkson Guver. Fred D. Guyer, Milo Undea. Connecticut Judge Morrla H. Beard.ley. Bridgeport; General E. S. Greeley, New Haven. District of Columbia A. Howard Clark. Hawaii John Kfflnger, James Leslie Coke. Idaho Colonel M. W. Wood. Bolae. Illinois Chancellor L,. Jtnke. D. E. Kelt, LaVerne Noyen. William G. Adklna. Colonel Gorge V. Lauman, William Reed, lmLs A Bowman. Iowa One delegate. Kentucky K. C. Ballard Thruston. president-general; Rev. R. L. McCready, rliap lain; Allen R. Carter, third vice-president; John Barrett Hundley, president; Mrs. 1,. f. Blackburn and companion; Mrs. Levlle War ren. Nashville. Uncertain Dr. E. E. Hume. Frankfort; Mr. and Mrs. Owen Gathrlght. Louisville; Mrs. Allen R. Carter and daughter. Louisiana Two delegates. Maryland Dr. Charles S. Grindall. Dr. James D. Iglehart. John Owen. Jr.. J. Frank Supplee. Jr., Dr. Edward M. Green way. Michigan Ceorge H. Barbour. W. M. Flnik. H A. Starret, W. B. Roberson, James H. Hall.' Minnesota George N. Osborne. Montana W. W. McDowell. Lieutenant Governor. New Hampshire William F. Winchester. John M. Boutwell. George C. Roy. General John M. . Thompson. New Jersey Briggs K. Adams. John K Weeks. Newark: Miss Gertrude Tillar. Mlts Charlotte Barns ulm One delezate. New York I-ouls Annin Ames. New York City; Judge Remington. Rochester: Newell B. Woodworth. Syracuse; Charles P. ' Wort man. Syracuse; Robert M. Anderson. Ohio Three delegates. Philippines Major Charles H. McKinstry. South Dakota On delegate. i:tah Samuel c. Park, Chauncey P- Overfleld. R. E. McConnaughy. Judge Justin B. Call. E O. Lee, Daniel 8. Spencur. Wisconsin Two delegates. Washington Will H. Thompson. Seattle. William P. WInan.. Walla Walla. General officers Three delegates. Many of the delegates will bring- their wives and daughters. Committees of tho Oregon Society which are perfecting the arrangements for the c""- entlon xouow: Sunday service J. cwins. ....... ....... . W. B. Wells. John S. Bradley. Decorations a. c. i , ' W. B. Buffum. A. P. lit", J- v. i Harold Miner. . . . . v.. i ,. vrank c vi re. chairman. E D Klngsley, George L. McPherson, Wells S; Gilbert. Edwin Caswell. River excursion ana touncii ri. r.inmi h c Cabell, chairman; trini . Rali Rilfun C. tioiman. A. sn. bert F. Parkin. T Rann P. P. 1 'SDIiey. rnsinnoH, Malcolm. B. B. Becuman, r. R. W. Hoyt. Registration w. J- i R. Rogers. R- H. Blossom. Colors T B. McDevttt. John W. Curran. Badges and souvenirs K. H. Ward, chair man: L. a. Clarke, r. r.i; Hotels and railways oeiierm y""1' ' Beebe. W. G. Oberteuf Icr. George v . -" W. B. Mean-. William P. Humphreys. Flowers Mrs. James r. A. Thaxter. Mrs. J. K. uamnie -nr.. on B. Himmons. Mrs. rcuius i.. n; Tuesday afternoon excursion silva. Winthrop Hammono. Waldo Coc . , Reception General l nomas m. r w Wakefield. Tnomas G. orrac B. Miller, C. N. McArthur. B. U. Bcckmaa, James Jackson. Histories Are InterestlniC. The lineal history of some of the delegates is interesting. tv. i- Ka.iia.ru Thurston, nresldent-genera I oi mo na tional Society Sons or tne American Revolution, is a great-grandson of Charles Thurston, a captain in mi Continental line and a great-great- grandson of Charles Mynn xnurston. a Colonel in the same. A. Howard Clark, of Washington. D. C. reglstrar-t-onersil of th society, is a member by virtue, of having had four ancestors In the Continental Army. ne is a smai- irrsindson of Enoch Clark, a Massachu setts prlvateersman, and Captain Thomas Carnes. of Knox's Conti nental Artillerv. and also a great-great- grandson of Major Edward carnes. oi the Massachusetts Militia, ana oi cnocu Hall, a private in the same organixa-tion. Another prominent member of the society who expects to be In attend ance is Col. George V. Lauman. of Chi cago, who acted as chairman of the 1913 Congress of the Sons of the Amer ican Revolution in Chicago. He is a ereat-grandson of Christopher Lauman, a Lieutenant in. the Third Battalion of Pennsylvania. Judge Morris B. Beardsley Is the past president-general and lives In Bridgeport, Conn. He is a great grandson of Daniel Gregory, a private in the Second Connecticut' Regiment. and great-great-grandson of David Beardsley. a private in the Fifth Con necticut Regiment. Dr. Clarkson N. Guyer. of Denver, past vice-president-general and one of the most active members in the society, is among those who have announced their Intention to be present at the Portland convention. He Is a great grandson of William Seymour, a pri vate in the Connecticut militia, and of William Patrick, a private In the Thir teenth Albany County Regiment. New York, and a great-great-grandson of Major Daniel Dickinson, of the same regiment, and of Robert Campbell and George Palmer, privates In the New York militia. East Sends Xoted Selena. Louis Annin Ames, of New York, president of the Empire State Society, will - attend. He is a great-great- V. M. G- Dr. Henry e u: . - . el. 1 ; . - :-J:i - i ' ' ..' J r ' j ' r 0.eon4aAn . tl'tllfom A n , I n a ... , K - V . . of the" committee of correspondence of Somerset County. New Jersey. Another state president is John Barrett Hund ley, of Louisville, Ky- of the Kentucky Society, who Is a great-grandson of Francis Barrett, a private in the Vir ginia militia: also George A. Virtue, of Seattle. President of Washington State Society, a great-grandson of John Ward. Lieutenant in Pennsylvania line. A. M. Henry, of Detroit, president of the Michigan State Society, is a great grandson of Eli Brownson, Lieutenant Vermont troops, and he is among the delegate?. Others who will attend are: Dr. James Iglehart, of Baltimore, a grandson of James Davidson, a pri vate of the Maryland line; Nathan Warren, of Boston, a grandson of Na than Warren, private in Brooks, Mass.. Regiment; George H. Barbour, of De troit, a great-grandson of Joel Bar bour, private in Enos" Connecticut Reg iment, and Isaiah Thompson. Colonel Connecticut Infantry and Artillerv. and great-great-grandson of Enoch Drake, a private in Connectcut troops: Thomas A. Perkins, of San Franctsco. secretary of California state society, a great- grandson of Jacob Allen, a private In New Hampshire troops: Newell B. Woodworth. president of Syracuse Chapter, a great-great-grandson of Captain Abljah Joslyn, of Massachu setts militia, and .Ensign Hezekiah Corny, of New Hampshire troops, and great-great-graat-grandson of Captain t;. woraswortn. or New York militi and John Joslyn. captain Massachusetts militia; w . li. Thompson, of Seattle, great-grandson of Mathew Grigg. of one of his trips away from the capital and the episode brought down upon the Congressional 1'nion the charge of heckling" the President. Inloa Denies Charge. The union disavows any intention of that and Miss Paul makes clear the movements of the union in that affair. however, not before Mrs. Catt j-nt to Miss Paul and the members of the bo?rd of the Congressional Union a letter declaring that the "heckling" episode had been "disastrous" to the New York campaign. rhe asks the union officials: "Are ou not willing as a board to desist from Interview., attacks and demonstrations In connection with the President, prominent Congressmen and the Democratic party until our vote Is over? . . It happens that In New York our suffrage cause may depend for its next step chiefly upon the Dem ocrats. This Is confidential, of course. Believing that the reort if untrue that the Congressional I'nlon delres to de feat the amendment in the ratr.paisn states and that you are true sufTrsrfiM.-, I wait your assurance that you will help, our ramiainn by abstinence from your u.M:al activities. IssiMet lire-a It rkargea. The last inferences, together with an intimation that Miss Paul had violated a promise made in a previous leter. drew forth a reply from Miss Paul. In which, in part, she said: "In this letter you state that the Congressional Union lias broken a "compact." You say: 'Miss Paul wrote ! .entirely satisfactory letter. In which I understood that she gave out definite pledge In behalf of the union to keep Its activities out of the alate. he mentioned that pinna were already unaer way for a deputation to visit Senator o'Gormsn. but Hist when that was over nothing further would be done. Bad U' lin as I believed that to be. I thouulil security vk .is pledged In thu compact Against further mis chief. 1 was therefore startled and dismayed to read that the compact had been broken. Virginia troops; General Edwin S. Greeley, of New Haven, Conn., grandson of Joseph Greeley, private In Reed's New Hampshire Regiment; George N Osborn. of Minnesota, great-grandson of James Osborn. of the Pennsylvania lines, and Colonel P. Penney, of Pitts burg, great-grandson of John Penney, private in Daggett's Massachusets Minute Men. rekliMg" Episode Related. waa evidently written with- RIFT. IN SUFFRAGE RANKS LAID BARE BY "DIPLOMATIC CORRESPONDENCE 99 Letters Between New York Society and Congressional Union, Lively With Retorts Courteous, Lead to Differences That Are Expected to Be Brought to Head at Convention in September. THE rift between the National Association for Woman Suf frage, the New York Suffrage Society, which Is operating under the . name of the Empire State Campaign- Committee to obtain an equal sffrage amendment to the New York State constitution, and the Congressional Union for Woman Suf frage is laid bare In- correspondence between Mrs. Carrie Chapman Catt. of the Empire Campaign Committee, and Miss Alice Paul, chairman of the Con gressional Union for Woman Suffrage. Copies of this correspondence have been sent broadcast by the Congres sional Union, for the purpose of set ting its members right on the contro versy and to put a different light on the alleged "heckling" of President Wilson by members of the union. Copies of the letters have been received by Mrs. L, W. Therkelsen. of Portland, a member of the Congressisonal Union. Opinion Difference Explained. The letters, which display a certain finesse of correspondence and are lively with retorts courteous, reveal the Inter esting Inside details of the rtft. The difficulties promise to be brought to some kind of a head at the convention of the Congressional Union, which is to be held in San Francisco September 14. IS and 16. the. purpose of which Is to mature plans for definite political action on the part of woman voters In support of a National suffrage amend ment. The Congressional Union is working, especially for the passage of the Susan B. Anthony amendment. The Congressional Union, in its let ters to Mrs. Catt and to others, make it clear that they believe great pres sure can be brought to bear In the states where suffrage exists now and where It is imminent, because of thai Influence it would have on members of Congress now In office. It Is on this theory. Mrs. Therkelsen explains, that the Congressslonal Union Is mo persis tent In Its work and la the point to which the other suffrage societies are blind for the moment. Empire Committee Sends Protest. The "diplomatic correspondence" be tween Mrs. Catt. of the Empire State Campaign Committee, and Miss Paul began In April this year and it reached a critical stae a few weeks ago. when In public sessions the suffragists opened fire on the unionists. In Mrs. Catt s first letter to the Congressional Union chairman. Miss Paul. Mrs. Catt wrote: "I have been asked by motion of the Empire State Campaign Committee to write to you. expressing their protest against the character of the work be ing done in this state by the Congres sional Union. The reason for the mo tion was the complaint of two of our district chairmen that your agents were handicapping their local cam paign by the attempt to call off their workers with the argument that New York had no chance and that the Fed eral route was the only one which can lead to victory." Mrs. Catt set forth reasons why the New York committee should be al lowed to work In Its own territory, pointing out that New York had hopes of having a "suffrage" . Legislature arguing that the Federal campaign of the union befogged the campaign. Plea to Withdraw Made. "In view of this I ask you to with draw your efforts at organisation In New York until the campaign Is over, pleaded Mrs. Catt, after citing other reasons, which. In her mind, should preclude the union's programme's fur ther execution. She concluded her letter as follows: "At this time you may connect with disgruntled suffragists here and there, but you are not likely to command the adherence of the really efficient one.. . . There Is a rift between the National Association (for Woman Suffrage) and the Congressslonal Union over the Federal amendment. The National has agreed to let us alone during this campaign. Will you not do the same?" Miss Paul's answer gave Mrs. Catt to understand that she had .no doubt been misinformed and called attention to the fact that Mrs. O. H. P.'Ilelmont as one of the "Inefficient" suffragists. had given the use of her home in New York for union work and said that the New York headquarters are being used in New York, not In furtherance of the campaign of the union, but as a central direction agency for all work. Brevity Marks Reply. Miss Paul concludes: "I need hardly tell you that we are deeply Interested In the success of the New York campaign and wish It sue cess as ardently even as you do. As far as I can Judee from your letter there Is no difference between us as to the real course of action which the Con gressional Union should pursue In the campaign states." To which letter Mrs. Catt replied briefly In toto. as follows: "I hereby acknowledge receipt of your letter and shall trust In your promise that New York Is to have a free field to try Its chances with the electorate of the state. Soon after, however, the Congres sional Union envoys made an attempt to present a letter to President Wilson on This out having my letter before you. The only letter I have written to you stat ed that while we were planning to hold our convention and start our or ganization in every state, we would not hold such convention or be;: In such organization work In any of the campaign stHles until the close of the campaigns. . . . The deputation to Senator O'Gorman of which you speak as having ben explicitly excluded from the 'compact' was not even mentioned In my letter. . . . Our statement was merely that we would not hold our New York convention and .tart formal organization in New York until the close of the referendum campaign. This 'compact- has not been broken." Mij Paul then explains the O'Gormsn deputation episode and also states the facts in connection with the socalled "heckling" of the President. which she pictured as follows: "iou speak of an attempted 'attack' by our representatives upon the Presi dent in Philadelphia, which was the cause, you say. of one newspaper with drawing its editorial support of suf frage. The phrase 'attempted attack is misleading. Promlnet Women Ask Hearing. The incident so described was as follows: A group of Pennsylvania women. Including nearly all the Philadelphia leaders in the Pennsylvania referen dum campaign (the president, vice- president, recording secretary, execu tive secretary and treasurer or the Philadelphia Euqual Franchise Society; the president of the Home School League, and the president of the Jew ish Council of Women, for example. sent two of their members to Washing ton to ask the President to grant an audience to suffragists while he was In Philadelphia welcoming 4000 newly- naturalized citizens. The women who went to Washington to arrange the In terview watted in Washington three days for an answer from the President. He Anally sent a message refusing the Interview In Philadelphia and the dep utatlon. therefore, did not wait upon him. Letter 'ot Received. "Since none of the members of the deputation in Philadelphia at the tlrue. made any attempt to see the President, after he declined to meet them. It is Impossible to understand how you en speak of an "attempted att.ick. and It seems to me you could easily win back the support of the paper In question by sending the editor an accurate statement of what occurred. Certainly there should be great hope of winning him back if his defection is due to misinformation. In regard to tha so-called 'heckling' of the President In New York I think that again you must be Informed as to the facta." Miss Paul in detail ex plains what happened and that Instead of "heckling" the President, the Union women merely approached him as he was emerging from luncheon at the hotel and handed him a letter which he failed to receive. President Net Detained. This Is described as follows: face to face with the President one of them (the women) sld: "Mr. Tretd der.t. we have a letter from New Yirk suffragists which wc dcMre should be .icllvered to you.' or words to this ef fect. When the President passed on without taking (ho letter th.- .--uffra-Sl.-t.s made no attempt to dct.iin him nd did not address him furtlnr. At the wharf later they found the Presi dent's stenographer, who promised to deliver the letter to the Pre.-idtnt. ."Can this Incident be property de scribed s 'heckling'?" The frequent reference to "anti Democratlc propaganda of the Con gresslon.il Union Miss Paul disposes of In this wise: "You tate further. A National anti Democrstic campaign st this time would be exceedingly bad for our state work in New York. Effect n Party Seen. "This ltement suKctets a situation which does not exlft. There is no "anti-Democratic campaign in progress at this time. Lat Autumn tlie Con cre!lonal Union did appeal to thu women In the suffraue states, to hold the Democratic party responslMe for the position It had taken, as a party, hostile to the Federal amendment- We believe that this rl-f tion work achieved its end. It undoubtedly made the Na tional suffrage amendment an issue for the first time In the election In all states where women rote Moreover, at the rloi-e of the election the Herno rratic party at onre withdrew Its lotig-oontinued oi'po.-ilion to allowing the .uffr;ice mcjiiMire to come to a v.t of the Houe. Whether we were richt or wrong in our course la5t Sit-mmer belongs to the past a:id not to tha present." Miss Paul Rom Into detail as to tha merits of the organization and add;: "Thus, while you are conscientiously of the opinion that the Congressional Urlon work Is a ni!take ... is It not obvious that other suffragists en gaged In your own campaign believe equally earnestly that this work helps the campaicn of the state? Is it not the cae that you are voicing the opinion of "some" New York women as against the opinion of 'other' New York women, and not the opinion of New York women as against thst of outsiders?" One Sorlety Declared Enough. Miss Taul also came Into possession of a letter which Mrs. Cntt wrote. April 19. to Mrs. Harriett Taylor Up ton, president of the Ohio Woman Suf-' frage Association, taking to task the Ohio Suffrage Association Board for inviting "both Congressional Women and National Association vromen" to enter Ohio and carry on their cam paign. Mrs. Catt wrote: "I wonder if the board has lost Its senses? It seems to me that any suffragist . ought to know that strength lies in unity. If I were In your place (as president) t would have said to that committee I insist upon your fortifying the State of Ohio against the Conpressional Union. One National society in the state Is enough, but If you want to have both you will have to get along without me. "Of course it means that you will have two organizations In your state, each one working In its own way for Federal legislation and each one ac cusing the other of trickiness. unfair ness and all that sort of thing, etc "The war has knocked the 'militant movement into a cocked hat and the 'non-mllltanf movement Is split over the question of peace. What will happen when the war Is over God only knows." Miss Paul politely takes Mrs. Catt to task for her utterances to Mrs. Upton. Name of Leaders "nnmittrd. The Congressional Union in making public the letters also makes public a list of women who are identified and in sympathy with the Congressional Union work to discount Mrs. Catt s in ference that Union women are of no consequence In the suffrace movement. This list includes: Mrs. Itobcrt Adam son, of New York, wife of a New York Fire Commissioner: Mrs. Howard (Tftnclu'ifd on Paire i 1 To Overcome Sunburn, Tan, Freckles, Wrinkles If your skin Is unduly reddened, frtv-ltled or tanned, dab a liberal amount of ordinary mercoliied i on the face and allow It to remain over nuht. When vou wash off the war in the mornlnn. fine flaky, almost Invisi ble particle of ci:tu-le come with it. Hepeatlng this daily, the entire enter skin Is absorbed, fcut so gradually, there's net the slightest hurt or in convenience Even the stuhbomest freckles are affected. The underlying skin which forms the new complexion Is so fresh and out hf ul-looklng. you'll marvel at the transformation. It s the only thing known to actually discard an aged, faded, muddy or blotchy complexion. ne ounce of mercoliied wax. procurable at any drugstore, la sufficient In roost cases. If sun and wind make you squint nd frown, you're bound to cultivate wrinkles and crow's feet To over come these quickly, bathe the face In a solution made by dissolving sn our-ce of nowdered saxollle in a. half r.int Finding themselves suddenly almost witch haaeL Adv. A