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About The Sunday Oregonian. (Portland, Ore.) 1881-current | View Entire Issue (Nov. 1, 1908)
TITE SUNDAY OREGOXIAN. PORTLAND. NOVEMBER 1, 19Q8. ATTENTION TO SAVANNAH RACE Southern Event on Thanksgiv ing Day Brings Many New Cars From Abroad. VANDERBILT CUP FAILURE Only One Car Built Especially for Race Other Old Models Anto mobile Club to Give Dinner, local Motor Circle Gossip. Xow That the Vanderbllt cup raoe Is grir, the next racing- event of lmpor tuct la this country will be the Savan nah race on Thanksgiving (Jay. From the list of entries received, rt seems assured that this race will be classier than the Vanderhilt. and It Is certsln that the foreign cars will be more In evidence than they were at the Long; Island event. The Vanderbllt race this year proved a failure compared with the suocess it has met with heretofore. Tens of thousands of people turned to wit ness the race, but this was only be cause It happened to be on Long Ialand and within easy access of the throng of sport-seekers In New York. When the whole list of entries Is looked over It Is found that there was only one car in the race which had been built spe cially for the race, snd It can hardly be aid that this would have been built bad It not been with, the expectation of entering It in the Savannah race later. There were 1 starters In the race, snd of this number seven were driven In the 190 Vanderbllt, and were simply overhauled and entered In .this year's race, when it was seen that en tries would be scarce. Of this number, was the winning- Locomobile car driven by Robertson, which was the same racer with which Joe Tracy won the elimination race In 10. Ten of the cars which started In the tscs this year were stock oars trimmed down to racing (are, and the other entry was the new racer fcullt by the Mathewsoa Company. That the race at Savannah on Thanksgiving day will not be a tame event where stock cars and old-style racers hold sway la evidenced by the Influx of up-to-date and powerful rac ers from Italy. Francs and Germany. Ths first crew to arrive was the Flat contingent last Wednesday, and this will be closely followed by the Renault. Bens and De Dietrich cars. Such fa mous drivers as Wagner. Kazsaro and P Palma have been engaged to drive the Flat racers, and with this trio of pilots, the Italian car Is a formidable bidder for honors In the great road . race. Nasraro has earned the right to : tie called the king of road drivers. Last year he made a clean sweep of all the big European contests, winning In suc cession the Targo Florlo, on the Island of Biclly. the Kaiser's cup race In Ger many, and the second grand prix on the Dieppe circuit In France. In the latter event he averaged 71 miles an hour, a record which remained unbroken until beaten by himself in the Florida cup race of last September. The victorious Flat In this race averaged 74V4 miles an hour, a new world's record. Nassaro has as t'uamstM two well-known drivers In fVagner and De Palms. The former, was the winner In a Darraq car of the ISO Vanderbllt race and has gained many honors for himself abroad since that time. De Palma Is a Brooklyn boy and has :tnade several track records la ths Cy ' clone Flat. The next team to arrive will be the German and French contingents. In this : Jot will be Ssis, the famous driver of the 1 Renault racer, who also has to his credit ' a victory la one of the Grand Prix races. Crrsng. an American driver of fame, will i pilot the other Renault. Hem err will be 'at the wheel of a Bens racer and Duray 'will handle the De Dietrich. The other ' drivers expected next week with their 'cars are HanrioC Erbe, Hautraust and !Rial. i one feature of the Savannah race wnloh ! will be in advance of the Vanderbllt is i the arrangement that has been made to -have the course guarded by a detail pt (troops. In the Vanderbllt race the crowds nocked on the course to such an extent that It became dangerous for the oars to 'go at their highest speed and necessitated calling off the raoe as soon as the two 'loading cars had finished. With troops i guarding the course at Savannah It will be possible for the first five or six posi tions to be decided and more If It seems 'advisable to do so. At a meeting of the directors of ths Automobile Club of Portland last Tuesday i night it was decided to hold a dinner next month, at whioh the members of the. club will receive a report of the work tor the past year and an outline of the proposed work for next year. Plans were also made for lectures to take place once a month through the Wlntrr in the con vention hall of the Commercial Club, at which different experts from the local agencies will address the m ambers of the club on proper upkeep of their cars and 'intricate problems of the modern motor. .'These lectures are expected to be largely attended and are bound to bo Interesting as well as beneficial. Lewis Russell, vice-president of the club, has lately returned from an ex tended trip up the Hood River road, where 'hs went to meet a delegation from ths Hood River district, with a view to fur thering the work on the Hood River road. Mr. Russell reports that work on the road will be pushed to the utmost extent In the Spring and declares that this can be cuade as good a road for motorists as any which he has seen 1n Europe. Ths first consignment of Chalmers De troit ISO cars arrived In Portland early last week and may be seen at ths Keats Auto Company. From a picture taken recently of ths Acme racer It has been shown that cars going at a great rate of speed throw dust from their front wheels ss well as from the rear. This has always been a great ' point of contention among racing men, and there has been different opinions ex- ' pressed by many on the question. Owing to the difficulty in getting a picture of car going fast enough to prove the ; point It has been an open question until j some enterprising photographer succeeded In catching ths Acme racer. To guard against the freeslng of radia tors In the cold weather now coming on, the most widely-used and most easily ob tained preparations are chloride, glycerine and wood alcohol, the latter being ths favorite because It has no effect either ' on ths rubber connections or on tha metal ' piping, whereas calcium la apt to attack the metal, while the glycerine In time dis solves the rubber hose connecting ths en gine with the .radiator. Ths S. P. O. car for the International lht-rar race at Savannah will be . snipped from ths factory October SO. A car of thla type won the Gallon hill- - climbing contest in Francs recently, and It will be Interesting to see what it will do against some of our American llsht esrs. which are supposed to be the best In ths world. f Statisticians ssy that no automobile wfll be salable two years hence unless Its an nual repair bill Is lees than 6 per cent of Its purchase price. This means that on a car costing ths repair bill would amount to fKO. The reply of the practi cal automoblllst Is that really good ears can now be maintained at avea a lower figure. A useful tip on what to do when matches are not on hand and lamps must be lit Is given by an Inveterate smoker, who evolved the Idea on a windy day when he had used up all his matches. Hs says: "Disconnect one of the wires from ths spark plug and place a piece of waste saturated with oil between the plug ter minal and the end of the wire, so as to make the spark jump through the waste. A smsll piece of waste Is enough, but great care should be taken not to fire ths gas fumes from the carburetor. Ths examining committee of the Auto mobile Club last month revoked the licenses of rwo chauffeurs for drunken ness. It is a commendable fact that since the Automobile Club has taken charge of the licenses la tha city there have been no arrests. Perhaps tt would have been better for some of our loacal agents, such as Stude bsker Kests and Covey, If they had waited a few months before building their new garages and salesrooms. Word comes from Paris that the latest and only up-to-date garage Is constructed with a station on the roof for aeroplanes and balloons . to alight on. A toolshop and gasoline reservotr are Installed on the roof and also a large shed with a hinged top which oan be opened for the balloon Ists to drop Into. see Will Llpman took his stx-cy!lnder Thomas roadster out early Tuesday morning for a short spin Into the coun try and brought back three Chinese pheasants. Hs went a distance of about 2S miles and was back In time for busi ness at 9 o'clock. Mr. Llpman is a strong advocate of the six-cylinder car and de clares he will never buy another four cylinder machine. PLAYERS TO GO TO ORIENT TWO OB BEAVER TEAM WITH ALL-AMERICANS. Trouble Results "WTiert Freeman and Cobb Want to Take Wives Along, and They Are Dropped. BT HARHT B. SMITH. SAN FRANCISCO, Oct iL (Special.) The end of the baseball season Is almost at hand. Sunday the last games will be played, the boys will disband, and then It will be quiet In fanning circles until another Spring comes to hand. The last three weeks have been somewhat slow, as far as live baseball news was con cerned. 'Everybody knew that Los An geles was slated Co win the pennant. They knew as well that the Beavers were secure In second place, and that the Commuters couldn't do betrer than trail along a miserable fourth. And with that kind of feeling, the attendance has not been the best In the world. Even the players have lost much of their Interest In ths game. Troubles of Mike Fisher. Ths chief talk this week has been of the team that Alike Fisher will take to the Orient, leaving on election day. Mike has had his troubles of late. Jerry Free man, the former PorrJander, who was with Washington, came out, as he was slated to play first with ths AlKAmerl cana But Jerry wanted Mike to pay the expenses of Mrs. Jerry Freeman on the trip, and also said that Ty Cobb Insisted on the same sort of agreement for Mrs. Ty. And Fisher refused point blank. He told Freeman that he had refused to do anything of the kind. Jerry was stub born, and as Ty Cobb was also obstinate, Alike promptly filled their places. Babe Danzig, or Portland, will play first base for the team, while Heine Heitmul ler will be used in the outfield. As Fisher was entirely right in ths stand that he took, he has had the support of the local fana Graney. the little Portland twlrler, will also be a member of the team, so you can see that ths Beavers will be well represented. Racing; Opens) Saturday. Tom Williams' Emeryville track will open next Saturday, Kovember 7, and from all appearances R will be a great season. Just at the present it Is de clared that there are fewer horses than were stabled a year ago, but this can be easily explained. Ths management has been holding out Inducements to crack Eastern stables, and has refused stable room to some of the smaller and more Inconsequential stables. Ths idea Is to get a higher class of horses. This should Increase the standard of racing. If the Hughes element wins Its election In New York. California will be the haven of the racing game, and Tom Williams will then be the big toad hi the puddle. INTEREST CENTERS IN COMING IM Great Crowds Expected to At tend Corvallis-Eugene Con test in Portland. SEASON NOW AT HEIGHT Washington-Pullman and Oregon Wh i t worth Meets Next Saturday Promise to Be Hard Eought Exhibitions. XEXT SATURDAY'S GAMES. Orecoa vs. Whltwerth, at Eugene. Idaho va Whitman, at Walla Walla. WasBlBSten vs. Pullman, as Seattle. BT BsTFBRSTJS. Postponement of ths O. A. C -Washington gams until Thanksgiving; day means that ths Corvallls eleven will have only one gams of Importance be fore the big contest with Oregon on November 21. It also means that Coach Norcroas win not find It necessary to put his team through a gruelling game such as Washington would have given him yesterday, and that his pro teges will bs in fine trim when they face Oregon. Whitman Is soheduled to play In Corvallls on November 11, and there are a couple of minor games on the O. A. C schedule, the whole effect of which will be to round out ths team for tha great game with the men from Eugene. Ths Corvallls players should defeat Whitman and coma to Portland with a clean recorA. It Is true that the Mis sionaries have a much stronger aggre gation than they were accredited with by early-season reports, but notwith standing all this, ths O. A. C. bunch should win, from them. Ths superior weight, experience and punting ability of tha Aggies, along with fact that the coming game will be played on their home grounds, should give them a com fortable lead over Coach Blanohard's men. The O. A. C. team has been a lHtle slow about developing this season, but ought to make rapid strides during ths next two weeks. Those who follow the fortunes of football hers in tha Northwest declare that ths Corvallls management played a trump card when It postponed the Washington gams and that the team will be ready for ths best that Coach Forbes can produce on November it. Oregon Has Hard Games). A glance at Oregon's schedule shows two hard games between now and the time set for the match with Corvallls. Whltworth College, by long odds the strongest non-conference team In ths Pacific Northwest, Is scheduled to play at Eugene next Saturday, and Wash ington comes to ths. University city on November 14. Both of these games will bs bard ones for Captain Moullen and his men. but they will serve to develop the six or seven freshmen In the Oregon squad and put them In the veteran class by the time the whistle blows for the great game on Multno mah Field. If Oregon plays through her hard schedule and brings an unin jured team to Portland, shs will have an even break with her old rival. The Corvallls veterans do not need the pre liminary games to put them In fighting trim, but. the Oregon freshmen do. With the experience of their games with Idaho, Whltworth and Washing ton fresh In their mirfds, the Oregon novices ought to be prepared for the battle of their lives against O. A. C. There Is no denying the fact that Coach Forbes has a fins bunch of men at his command, and although a ma jority of them are green, they give great promise. They -will undoubtedly show some high-class football In the final game of their schedule the match with O. A. G and the Thanks giving day game with Multnomah Oregon has a good defense, two splen 'dtd punters, two place-klckers of mors than average ability, and also has a combination of weight and speed. These elements) will all be matched against the strength and skill of what will undoubtedly be the strongest foot ball eleven ever turned out at the Oregon Agricultural College. The ap parent strength of both of these big teams means that Portland will soon witness one of the greatest athletlo contests sver seen on the Facluo Coast. ( Great Interest In Contest. The coming game Is attracting wide spread attention throughout the entire Northwest. Excursion' trains bearing rooters' clubs, brass bands and enthus iastic partisans of both teams will be run from Eugene and Corvallls. Tha cadet regiment of the Agricultural College will be on hand and loyal alumni will be there to cheer their favorites. The large grandstand at Multnomah Held will be a mass of college colors, for sections are being reserved by the rooters of both ths University and O. A C In brief, the eomlng game between the twe big state schools promises to excel anything sver seen In these parts, not only from a foot ball standpoint, but because of the great demonstration that is certain to occur. Oregon will have a hard game with Whltworth next Saturday and with soma misgivings to the contest with Pullman a team that has shown wonderful Im provement during the past week or two. Although Idaho's chances appear to be brighter than Whitman's for next Sat urday's game at Walla Walla, the Mis sionaries will give a good account of themselves. They did so in their game against Washington, but lost to Whlt worth chiefly because the game cams right on the hsels of the hard contest at Seattle. Football teams should learn by exper ience that one game a week Is enough and that long trips with two or three hard games are often disastrous. Had Whitman waited a week before playing Whltworth, the result might have been different, although it must be admitted that the Presbyterians have a formida ble aggregation. School Teams Are Strong. It is) pleasing to not the great strides that ars being made by the academlo teams of this city. The East and West Side High Schools, Portland Academy, Columbia and Hill Academy all have creditable teams in ths field. The writer was present at Wednesday's game be tween the East and West Side High Schools and whUe ths playing of ths youngsters wss not faultless, the gams was a good one and the enthusiasm would have done credit to many a col legs gams. Besides ths local academlo teams, the high schools of Pendlaton, La Grande, Salem, Baker City, Eugene, As toria and several other cities of the state hava creditable football elevens. The youngsters brought out on these high school aggregations often develop Into the best of college players. The tackling In Wednesday's game was altogether too high, but aside from this palpable fault, the general playing of both teams was good. The only men who tackled low and brought their op ponents down with a thud were Patterson and Ludlum. of the West Side. The re maining games of the lnterscholastlo series wfll be watched with interest. The next game of Importance in Mult nomah's schedule Is the match with Whitman, on November 14. The Walla Walla men won from ths local clubmen last year, so Captain Btott and his fol lowers will make a great effort to turn the tables. The game is to be played on Multnomah Field. Just three days af ter the O. Av a-Whttman. game at Cor vallls. , 7 Voting and His Pooloetooole. Cy Young, ths grand old Trojan among baseball men. is said to be one of the most economical men In the business. Unglaub, the new player that Washing ton secured from Boston, tells the fol lowing story on Young: It appears that when the Boston Club was in Cleveland, which Is not very many miles from Cy Young's big farm, Cy wished to telephone some instructions to his farm manager, and ho resorted to the long-distance telephone as a means of quiok communication. While Cy was telephoning Unglaub and McConnell hap pened to stroll up to the telephone booth. When Young had ceased talking and was getting the necessary change out of his pocket to pay for his message McConnell. who is a youngster Just fresh from col lege, said to Young: "Consider the long-dlstanoe telephone "Yes, broxs in iquoh wiui wry expression, as he began counting his change, "and see how quickly it makes you short." Fight Protected by Injunction. NEW YORK. Oct- 8L Charley Griffin, of Australia, had the better of a six round bout with Bert Keyes, of New York, at ths National Sporting Club here laat night. In their last meeting Keyes knocked out Griffin In the fifth, round. The matoh was put on In place of the scheduled match between Jack O'Brien and Sam Langford, which was postponed for a week. The club operated last night under an injunction forbidding the police to interfere with the pout. Meets Death In Gravel-Pit. CHICAGO, Oct. 81. J. Walter McCall, South Chicago, superintendent of the Chicago Gravel Company's pit at Ham mond. Ind., was crushed to- death In a gravel slide at that place yesterday. He was showing a party of friends through the pit when hs fell Into a chute and was burled by a rush of loose graveL An electric coin counter Is a recent In vention in England. It shifts joins on a metal plate and stacks those of each - nomination In paper tubes. WHIT WORTH COLLEGE FOOTBALL STARS, WHO WILL PLAT LN EXTG ENE NEXT SATURDAY .GlSsWO SSZSJZ ptZ4XrT23& TACOMA.'w."sh.'.rOcNt."-SpciaL)Wh!tworth College ha, com. to ths front .with an sxcepUonally strong nnthn tam this season and local football enthusiasts oeueve max ins rrwujim.u. - tTow?EnL?atUT,. The Whltworth men recently defeated Whitman by a score of 17 to 11, and nUved a close game with the strong team of the University of Washington. . . Among Whltworth'. best men are Grosscup. end; Piatt, manager, and Tanner, quarter. Tsner is the first colored man to make a vT.ity team In the Pacific Northwest- He is a good place-kicker and an excellent field general. M LES IN ONE DAY ELECTION SWEEPSTAKES 'A 1909. Chalmers Detroit "30" Trill start from the Oregonian building Tues day morning at 8 o'clock, on a 200-mile non-stop endurance run. One hun dred and fifteen Chalmers Detroit "30" dealers over the country are going to do the same thing. THINK OF IT Twenty-three thousand miles covered in one day by the Chalmers Detroit "30." This race will show several things. It will show the performance of this" car in the hands of different people. It will show the economical quali ties in the consumption of gasoline and oil, for a close record will be kept of the amount consumed. It will show the ability of the Chalmers Detroit "30" to stand up under all kinds of road conditions. "We will publish the number of perfect scores and the amount of fuel consumed in each case. We are delivering 1909 Chalmers Detroit "30" NOW H . L. Keats Auto Co. Cor. Seventh and Burnside, Portland, Or. Packard ' .Thomas Pop Hartford Chalmers Detroit Buick NUT GALL MILL OFF Ketchel's Manager, O'Connor, Dissatisfied With Terms. THREATENS TO CRAWFISH Believes Papke Has Better End of It, and Thinks His Protege En titled to Better Treatment. So Forfeit Money Up. ' BT B1BRT B. SMITH. BAN FRANCISCO. Oct. 8L (Special.) Just now there are all sorts of rumors and stories flying around town In regard to ths Papke-Ketohel match, which was slated last September to be pulled off by Jack Gleason on Thanksgiving eve. As one of the big fight cards of the year, the match has had considerable Interest, and tha apparent dissatisfaction of Manager Joe O'Connor, who represents Ketchel, has manifested itself In no uncertain way. Joe has been talking to his friends all the week, and has finally come forth with the statement that unless ho is given better financial Inducements he will declare the fight off and meet any one that coffroth may name on Thanksgiving afternoon at the Mission-street arena O'Connor Wants More Money. The milk In the cocoanut lies In the fact that when forfeits were demanded O'Connor said that he did not have his forfeit handy, and the I1O0O was put np for him by John T. Clark, the ofllcial stakeholder and a well-known business man of the city. That gives O'Connor a chance to sneak out of Ms agreement If he desires, and It looks as if he desired. The trouble arose when he discovered, or thought he discovered, that Gleason had guaranteed Papke J&iOO for his end. win, lose or draw. That made O'Connor mad all through. He said it wasn't fair, and that he wanted to be treated right by the promoters, even though his fighter was not exactly the champion. WiU Await Papke'a Arrival. "When we fought in Los Angeles," whined O'Connor. "Ketchel was given a 15 per cent bonus and we gave Papke g per cent of that. Now be wants to hog it all. Bather than do that, Ketchel will not fight Papke." And that Is the way the matter stands. When Papke arrives the affair may be straightened out. To a man up a tree It looks very much as If O'Connor is en deavoring to stand Gleason up for mors money. He may think he has the pro moter In a tight hole, where he will have to make concessions. If Coffroth would agree to bid for a fight on Thanksgiving day, as O'Connor hopes, then there would be a chance. Doubtless the fight will eventually take place, either under one management or the other, but in the meantime It is doing the game no particular amount of good. O'Connor has not endeared himself to the publio In the past, and his actions at this time are not apt to make him more popular than he has been heretofore. And If he wants to make money ha must have Ketchel win back that championship which he lost In the southern part of the state. Kaufman to Fight Mustain. Al Kaufman, the California, heavy weight, who went East a few weeks ago, has returned home- with his manager, Dllly Delaney. The ex-blacksmith had lust one match In the Bast, when he knocked out Jim Bradley, who was deemed a wonder. There, was nothing else In sight, and as Delaney foresaw the shutting down of the boxing game in Greater New York, he wisely concluded to leave. ' It was doubtless a wise move, for Kauf man bad no sooner returned than he was signed to fight Terry Muatain In Los An geles before -the Jeffries Club on the even ing of November 10. Mustain Is a thlrd rather In the puglllstlo game, and will be easy for Kaufman. However, as on of the promoters of the southern city re marked, "The people of Los Angeles want to see the heavyweights. That's what they fall for, and It doesn't make much difference how good they are." Abe Attell has another good match in the south. It ought to be easy picking. He has practically signed to meet Ad Wolgast, the Milwaukee featherweight. In a 20-rounfl contest some time In Novem ber. Abe Is not In favor in bis home city, San Francisco, and It is a good thing for him that he has decided to try tha game elsewhere. The avrae Anora rest produces from BARGAINS IN SECOND-HAND AUTOS ROTAI. TOIR.LST, FORDS, RAMBLERS, BT71CKS, FRAjrBxnr, TOURISTS, CADILLAC Prices From 8250 to glOOO W. G. Hartmaa 6 Co. HS Second St. 1909 PIERCE ARROW HAS ARRIVED CadillacThirty Will Arrive by Fifth of November The kind of an Automobile to buy is a PROVEN GAR. Both the " Pierce-Arrow " and " Cadillac are TRIED AND TRUE. Covey Motor Car Co. 16th and Alder Streets After Dec. First, New BIdg., Seventh and Couch New and Slightly. Used Automobiles Bought, Sold or Exchanged it "N 1 Great Bargains in the Following Autos: Tourist, '07 model, 7-paaBenger, glass front clock speedometer, Rasltsrhts in perfect order, dost J3U0O.00. ...81650.00 Franklin Touring Car, top, gas lights, newly overhauled. Coa Btoddard Dayton, '07 model, glass front, top, iiKhls. in fine condition, uusi iouju., a,. speedometer clock, gas Btoddard Dayton, '07 model, glass front, top speedometer, as lights. In fine condition. Cost 3000.TiO. A bargain for... .B1250.0O Orient Touring Car, glass front, top. all new tires. Cost sCUM. for a quick sale , : " SSOO.UO jrUMEROUS OTHER MAKES. Pote Waverly Bleotrio, in perfect condition, been used 414 months. Cost $2200.00. with new rectifier for charging from electric light. Cost S3u0 00 all for ............... jpiou.ft All makes of Runabouts In perfect condition from 8175.00 to 80OO.OO Par Barsatns See Us. The W ise Man Buys a Used Car. PORTLAND AUTOMOBILE COMMISSION HOUSE. AUTOMOBILE ROW. 634-34 ALDER ST.. COR. SEVENTEENTH. Phones A, Malm 4433. WE ARB THE ONLY ESXCLUSry-E SECOND-HASH DEALERS IN PORT LAND. Too Largest am the Coast. Free Storase. Auto Repatrln.
