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THE SUNDAY OREGOXIAX, PORTLAND, JUNE 28, I90S. LAW LAID DOWN FOR AMERICAN RAILROADS ON LUMBER RATES TEXT OF DECISIONS OF INTERSTATE COMMISSION ON SUITS INVOLVING FATE OF PRINCIPAL INDUSTRY OF PACIFIC NORTHWEST 10 OREGOXIAX NEWS BUREAU. Wash ington. June 21. Because of the extreme length of the decisions of the interstate Commerce Commission In the Pacific Coast lumber rate cases, recently decided, and reviewed In these dispatches, it is Impossible to quote the findings of the Commission in full. However, the fol lowing liberal extracts are made from the decisions in the "Portland Gateway" case: Synopsis of Decision. 1. The lumber and shingle producing and hipping Interests of Western Washington brought proceeding to compel the Northern Paclnc and the Great Northern railways to establish a through route and a- Joint rate applicable to the movement of lumber and shingles through Portland, Or., over the lines of the Union Pacific system to Eastern destinations: but the commission Is clearly of the opinion that a satisfactory route within the meaning of the statute already exists from these Washington points to Colorado common points and to destina tions east of Colorado common points, and that this commission has therefore no Juris diction to establish a route asked for to those destinations. 2 The present routes from Washington to certain Utah points are not reasonably satisfactory, and the route prayed for via Portland to these destinations should be established. :t. Refusal upon the part of carriers to establish and maintain Just and reasonable through routes Is of Itself a violation of the 4. Distance Is an Important element In determining whether a route is satisfactory. A circuitous route Involving a longer haul and therefore greater delay would not be, ordinarily, as desirable as a direct route. Hill Roads Originate Traffic. "The lumber produced in these mills of Western Washington is mainly consumed In the East. It is probable that the average consumption is 2000 miles from the point of production. The Northern Pacific and the Great Northern extend from these forests 2000 miles east. They have penetrated these forests with branch lines which are of no value except as they originate this traffic. They have put themselves In shape to handle this business over practically the entire length of their lines. They have done this upon the theory that they were to be allowed to carry this traffic over their own lines, and they could not afford to construct their originating railroads and to establish and maintain the rates which have been maintained unless they were permitted the long haul upon this busi ness. They could not afford to operate upon the same basis if they were obliged to deliver it over to the Union Pacific at Portland. It is very doubtful whether the common interest of the public and the railway does not require that these sev eral transcontinental lines shall be al lowed to handle this traffic which they originate. "Justice dictates the same conclusion. These forests of Western Washington will furnish the present output for half a century to come. These railroads were constructed upon the theory that in so far as they could they would be allowed to control this traffic. Certainly the first consideration Is the public Interest; but if these lines furnish satisfactory trans portation facilities upon which this lum ber can be moved to Eastern markets. Is It not their right to carry It there? Colorado Route Not as Good. "We are clearly of the opinion that a satisfactory route within the meaning of the statute already exists from these Washington points to destinations east of Colorado common points and that this Commission has therefore no Jurisdiction to establish the route asked for to those destinations. "With respect to Colorado common points the situation is somewhat differ ent. The distance from Tacoma to Den ver via the Burlington Route and the Billings gateway Is 1728 miles: via the Portland gateway and the Union Pacific. 1535 miles. The testimony shows that in the past the service via the Billings gateway into Colorado common-point ter ritory has been satisfactory and. on the whole, we are Inclined, though with some hesitation, to hold that the route to Col orado common points via Billings ought also to be regarded as satisfactory and that we ought' not to establish a Joint rate via Portland to these destinations. Under the present arrangement this ter ritory appears to be able to buy lumber freely either In Washington or In Ore gon, and In times when traffic moves normally there seems to be no special demand for this new route. Open' Gateway to Utah. "Utah points, of which Ogden and Salt Lake City are illustrations, can only be reached by either the Spokane or Silver Bow gateway. In both ;ases the traffic must move through Pocatello, and the relative distance to Pocatello Indicates therefore the relative distances to these consuming points. From Tacoma to Pocatello via Portland Is 875 miles, via Spokane 132S miles, via Silver Bow 1209 miles. While the entire distance Is much less, the difference in distance by the present gateway is much greater than In case of Colorado common points. The testimony also shows that the service by this route even under favorable con ditions Is unsatisfactory. In our opin ion the present routes from Washing ton points to these Utah points are not reasonably satisfactory, and we are of the further opinion that the route prayed for via Portland to these destinations should be established. "The rate In the past has been 5 cents higher to these Utah points from Wash ington territory than from Portland. In our opinion this difference ought not to exceed 2H cents by the new route. No opinion is expressed as to what division should be allowed lines north of Port land. This rate and route should apply from originating points upon the North ern Pacific as far north as Seattle and to Utah common points and those tak ing similar rates east and south of Poca tello. Different as to Passengers. m "Attention should be called to the fact that a wide difference exists between a reasonable through route for the move ment of freight and one for passenger traffic. There enters into the passenger service a personal element which does not exist In the case of property. We might well say that a passenger should have the right to Journey from Seattle to Omaha via Portland with the conven iences of a through service although a carload of lumber was not entitled to that privilege. "It remains to Inquire whether we ought, at the time this case was heard, to have opened this gateway as a tem porary expedient. The case made by the complainants was one which appealed strongly to this Commission and which we. should have attempted to relieve in any proper manner. It did not appear to us that the opening of this gateway would have relieved the situation: nor that it would, under the circumstances, have been just. Objections of Oregon Men. "The Oregon & Washington Lumber Manufacturers' Association, representing the lumber and shingle Interests In the State of Oregon, intervened in this pro ceeding against the prayer of the pe tition, appeared by counsel at the hear ing. Introduced testimony, and most vig orously protested against the opening of the route asked for. This intervener put Its objection upon the ground that Oregon mills were dependent for their transpor tation facilities upon the Union Pacific System: that these facilities were already overtaxed and utterly inadequate, and that, therefore. It would be rank injus tice to them if that system were required to devote, a portion of its capacity to the service of the complainants. "The Quantity of lumber sawed in Ore gon Is only about one-half that produced in Washington, being, approximately. J.000.000.0U0 feet board measure, as against 4.000,000,000 feet in Washington. These Oregon mills sell their product largely in the same markets with the Washington mills. The only avenue by which they can reach these destinations is the Union Pacific System, starting from Portland over the line of the Oregon Railway & Navigation Company. A certain amount of lumber goes south by the Southern Pacific to San Francisco and California points, and it was said that as an emer gency route it might be shipped to Sac ramento and thence east over the South ern Pacific; but the quantity so handled Is small and may be disregarded. Prac tically the only avenue to Eastern points is via the Oregon Railway & Navigation Company from Portland. Oregon Facilities Bad. "The intervener claimed and conclusive ly showed that transportation conditions at Oregon mills were in every respect as bad as at Washington mills. The Union Pacific System had failed to meet their requirements in exactly the same way and for exactly the same reason that the Great Northern and Northern Pa cific had failed with respect to Wash ington shipments. ' . The total cars of lumber delivered by the Oregon Railway & Navigation Com pany to the Oregon Short Line at Hunt ington were 7322 in the year 1901; 17,709 in the year 1906. The total number of loaded cars delivered by the Oregon Railway & Navigation Company to the Short Line in 1906 was 37,574. of which more than one-half were lumber and shingles. It was said that the capacity of the road was fully taxed In the hand ling of this traffic and that it was im possible to greatly Increase the' amount. While every effort was being made to improve its track and add to Its equip ment, at appears from the testimony that there is more likelihood in the future of inability to handle lumber shipments from Oregon upon the part of the Union Pacific System than from Washington upon the part of the Hill lines. The railroad of the Oregon Railway & Navigation Company was peculiarly in tended to serve these Oregon Interests; the policy of that company in the past has been to develop those interests. We might well hesitate to diminish the abil ity to fulfill the duty which it owes them by devoting a part of its capacity to the mills which these complainants represent; nor did it seem likely that to have done so would have benefited the whole sit uation. Joint Rate to Utah. "Before this report had been promul gated it came to the attention of the commission that rates from Pacific Coast points to Eastern destinations were likely to be advanced, and it did not seem best, in view of this fact, to attempt to fix a joint through rate from these Washington points. Still later, the advances were made, and proceedings were begun before the commission in consequence. As a re sult of those proceedings we have es tablished a rate of 374 cents per 100 pounds on fir and spruce from Port land to Salt Lake and Utah points, and 47 cents per 100 pounds' on cedar and shingles. This would produce a rate from these Washington points of 40 cents upon fir and spruce and 50 cents upon cedar and shingles. "It is our opinion, then, that a Joint route should be established, as above in dicated, and that from points north of Portland a joint rate not exceeding 40 cents should be applied to the transpor tation of fir and spruce and 50 cents to shingles and cedar, and an order will be Issued accordingly. Gateway Not Permanently Open. "The confident opinion was expressed by the officials of the Northern Pa cific that within a year at most that line would be in shape to handle ail the lumber offered. As already said. It is handling this traffic today, not because its facilities have increased, but because the traffic has decreased. "Under these circumstances It hardly seems to us that we ought to open this Portland gateway as a perma nent policy. The statute expressly forbids it, since, within the fair mean ing of that provision, there is already in existence a reasonable and a satis factory route. Even If there were no such provision In the statute, if this commission were left entirely, free to exercise Its Judgment It would be a matter of grave doubt whether we ought to grant the prayer of this petition." CASE OF WILLAMETTE VALLEY Harrlman Cannot Ruin. Established Industry Arbitrarily, Is Ruling. OREGONIAN NEWS BUREAU, Wash ington, June 21. Appended is virtually the complete text of the decision rendered by the Interstate Commerce Commission In the case of the Willamette Valley and Southern Oregon lumber manufacturers who appealed from the action of the Southern Pacific Company in raising the rate on lumber and lath from $3.10 to $5 a ton. The Commission's decision is that tho railroad company, having fostered the lumber industry by its low rates, -cannot kill the industry arbitrarily. This decision Is well summarized in the two paragraphs Immediately following: 1. Where a rate has been established for a considerable period for the purpose of de veloping a particular Industry and with full knowledge that the Industry could not be developed without it, and where, under the Influence of such rato, large amounts of money have been Invested in property, the value of which must be seriously Impaired by an advance of the rate, that fact Is an Important consideration in passing upon the reasonableness of such advance. 2. The Southern Paclnc Company estab lished a rate of $3.10 per ton upon rough green flr lumber and lath from points In the Willamette Valley to San Francisco for the purpose of developing the lumber Industry In that section, and maintained the rate in effect, with a brief Interval, for six years; and on the strength of this rate that In dustry attained considerable proportions. In April. 1907. this rate was advanced to $5 per ton; Held. That the advance was unreason able and that the rate ought not for the furure to exceed $3.40 per ton. . Green fir lumber weighs about 3300 pounds to the 1000 feet, and therefore an advance of $1.90 per . ton would bo equivalent to $3.13V4 per 1000 feet. The profit in manufacturing lumber in the Willamette Valley during the last seven or eight years has probably ranged from $1.50 to $2.50 per 1000. These profits nerve often been greater and often less, but the above are perhaps the fair average limits. Most operators in this section own their own timber, but stumpage is frequently bought, and has ranged from 25 cents to $1 per 1000. In arriving at the above profit stumpage is always charged as a cost of production. The Booth-Kelly Company charges itself for stumpage 50 cents per 1000, although un der the price at which that company bought its land the actual cost would be somewhat less. If the cost of stumpage should be eliminated the profits would be Increased by 50 cents per 1000 feet. It will be seen, therefore, that this advance In the freight rate exceeds by consider able the average profit of manufacture in the Willamette Valley plus the price of stumpage. This lumber competes with that pro duced at Portland and shipped from Port land by water to San Francisco. It was not denied that in the past Portland lum ber had successfully met lumber from the Willamette Valley in San Francisco upon the former rates of transportation. The rate from tho Willamette Valley is now increased by more than the profit in the manufacture of this lumber. There can be but one result lumber reaching San .Francisco by water must supplant that from the Willamette Valley In the San Francisco market. Was to Meet Water Rate. The'rate of $3.10 was intended to meet the water rate from Portland and ap plied only at San Francisco and other bay" points which could be reached by water. Lumber from Portland to an interior destination must be loaded upon the cars at the water line and trans ported by rail to the Interior point. Lum ber from the WHlamette Valley to the same interior point was charged the $3.10 rate to San Francisco plus the local rail rate from San Francisco to destination, thus maintaining the competitive equality between Portland and the Willamette. -It will be seen, therefore, that the $3.10 rate gradually increased as the distance from San Francisco Bay increased, until the $5 limit was reached. The present rate of $5 applies to all the territory which could formerly be reached at $5 and less. Hence the advance to points distant from San Francisco Bay is less- than $1.90 per ton by a gradually diminishing amount until it reaches the old $5 limit. It will also be remembered that the Willamette Valley now has an outlet to Eastern destinations via Portland. When this original rato was established there could be no movement through the Port land gateway and a rate was made to Eastern destinations via Sacramento. The movement to the South over the Sis kiyou and afterwards to the East over SYNOPSIS OF DECISION OF INTERSTATE COMMERCE COMMISSION IN LUMBER RATE CASES. In the Portland gateway case, the Commission decides that the mllfs in Washington aro not entitled to have the Portland gateway opened to Colorado and points east of Colorado, because they have another route equally good; the Portland gateway should be opened, however, to mills in Washington along the line of tho Northern Pacific Railroad between Portland and Seattle to Utah common points at an additional rato of 2 cents pe hundred. , Rules in Willametto Valley caso that where a railroad has built up an industry by giving a low rato on Its products, thereby Inducing Investment of capital with the knowledge that only the low rate will Justify such investment, such railroad cannot arbitrarily increase such rate and thereby kill that industry. Holds that in same case that the new $5 rate dealt a staggering blow to the Valley lumber industry, in asmuch as it closed the California market to Its products, that being tho only distant market to which Valley lumber could be shipped. ; : Points out in same case that Harrlman road made $2500 a mile, net, in 1957, and that its net earnings in that year were larger than Its gross earnings ten years before, as proof that tho old Valley lumber rate was profit able. States as general truth, in Eastern rate cases, that the widest" possible market for common and medium lumber is what the lumbermen of the . North Pacific Coast need, since every market for such lumber that can reasonably be opened operates to lessen the waste and natural supply. Follows ruling of Supreme Court in another case to the effect that when railroad lines are prospering, as the Hill and Harriman lines wero prospering under the 40-cent rate, the burden of proof is on thero. to show that any Increase is justified. Eastern rate controversy cannot be determined wholly on tho ground that' the lumbermen have enjoyed a specially low rate for years, and that business Interests have been built up under that rate that will suffer heavy loss by tho increase; the true test is the justness of the ra,te, and the raise must bo Justified regardless of the prosperous nature of the lumber industry, or where the Increase will ultimately bo absorbed. While the expenses of operation of the railroads have increased since the 40-cent rate was made, so also have the expenses of lumber manufacture. The Western rates, from tho Coast to the Mississippi Valley, have yielded greater revenue, mile for mile, than the rates on yellow pine from the South. Old. or 40-cent rates, gave tho transcontinental lines a large pro portion of their revenue, and were reasonable for the service performed. In the Spokane case the Commission holds that, although the product of the mills of tho Spokane district Is Inferior, they prospered under the old rates; the railroads had In part admitted the propriety of a differential In favor of "the Spokane district, however, and careful examination of the testimony shows that a graded dif ferential should exist. Even In dissenting opinion of Knapp and Harlan, in 40-cent rato cases, tho railroads get small comfort, in asmuch as tho dissenters admit that a less Increase would have been more just. In the dissenting opinion it Is held that, the rates raised wero special and did not belong to tho class that cannot be raised without proof of Injustice of old rate. Testimony shows, say the dissenters, that the old rate was regarded from both sides as an unusually low, if not abnormal one, and both parties evidently expected that rate would sometime be advanced. Dissenters cannot but believe that conditions have so changed as to Justify carriers In refusing to continue old rates in force. Lumber has nearly doubled in value and expenses of railroad operation have Increased. Tho roads have built up a surplus, but it Is not clear that much or any of it resulted, from the 40-cent business. tho Sierra Nevada was extremely ex pensive, and when the Southern Pacific and Union Pacific became united In 1901 joint rates were established for tho movement of this lumber through Port land over tho Union Pacific lines, where the grades wero much easier and the cost of operation much lees. These mills, therefore, reach today via Portland the same Eastern destinations which they formerly reached via Sacramento. These rates from the Willamette Valley to various Eastern points aro the same as from Portland, as a rule, and unually tho same as from mills in Washington upon the west of tho Cascades. Those rates have also been advanced and proceedings are pending before the Commission for a restoration of tho original rates, but tho questions Involved aro entirely distinct from this. The defendant apparently con cedes that whatever rate is established to Eastern points from Portland should also be accorded these Willametto Valley mills. Closes Southern Market. It follows, therefore, that the effect of this advance Is to shut up, as to the Wil lamette Valley, the San Francisco mar ket, and to limit the market in tho vicin ity of San Francisco. All other markets are open to these mills to exactly tho same degree that they have been in tho past. What, then, is tho effect of with drawing that particular market? The timber cut at these Willametto mills Is known as Oregon fir and is very similar to Washington fir except that the trees are smaller. Tho testimony fairly shows that grade for grade tho lumber sells at the same price with Washington fir and with tho same readi ness. It would seem, however, that tho percentage of high-grade lumber runs somewhat less with these mills than in Washington and, still further, that tho poorer grades are not as good hero as in Washington. Tho testimony showed that this poorer lumber could not be shipped to Eastern markets and that the only market in which It could be disposed of was San Francisco and points in that Immediate vicinity, and this seems probable, for thero are few Eastern points which can bo reached at less than a 40-cent rate, and it fairly appears In this case that thero aro today few If any markets to which No. 2 lumber can bo shipped upon a rate as high as that. As was very truly said by counsel for tho defense in tho argument of tho Eastern rato cases, tho common board is everywhere, and tho Pacific Coast manufacturer can not ex pect to send to the East this grade of his product. These lower grades must be disposed of In comparatively nearby markets. Mills upon the Coast can mar ket this lumber by water; interior mills In Washington seem to find a considerable local market, and the same Is true of Portland, but these operations In tho Willametto Valley have no local mar ket of any account and havo relied in tho past upon tho San Francisco mar ket for the disposing of this part of their output. To deprive them of this mar ket or to require them to take $3.13 per 1000 feet less for this part of their pro duct, which Is a considerable percentage of the whole, would turn a profitable into an unprofitable business. if appears probable, too. that the effect of withdrawing this market will be more serious upon the small mill than upon the two or three largo operators who aro affected by these rates. In order to ship lumber long distances it must frequently be dressed and kiln-dried. Tho larger mills havo facilities for doing this, but the smaller operators are w-ithout such facilities; nor can they' afford to provide them. They must sell their lumber In the rough and they do sell a very con siderable portion of It In this market. Not Closed Permanently. We can hardly agree to the claim ' of tho complainants that a maintenance of the advanced rate would generally and permanently close these mills In the Wil lamette Valley. It would, in our opin ion, very greatly diminish the profits otherwise obtainable from a prosecution of that business. It would limit the operations of these larger companies and would probably drive out of business for the time being many of the smaller ones. This locality is not today dependent upon the San Francisco market to the same extent that it was In 1898. for other mar kets have been developed; but that Is still the only available market for any considerable quantity of the lower grades of lumber and without a market for those grades the business in this valley cannot be successfully prosecuted. In time, as cost of stumpage to the Portland mill and the Puget Sound mill advances the manufacturer In the Willamette Valley will derive from the lower price of his logs an advantage which will enable him to compete in these markets upon the higher rate, but some years must elapse before that condition will be reached. Meanwhile the operator who has invested his money must suffer. Mills in the Willamette Valley are not situated near the river and are not, therefore, as a rule, upon the main line of the defendants, but are reached by short branch lines of different lengths. The service of collecting this lumber and. putting it Into the trains of the defend ant upon its main line Is, therefore, a somewhat expensive one. The present rate of $5 per ton Is equiva lent to 25 cents per 100 pounds, and the defendants insist that this rate,, tested by a comparison with lumber rates in different parts of the United States, tak ing into account the operating conditions which obtain here, cannot be regarded as extravagant. Comparisons with other lumber rates are not conclusive nor greatly profitable. since operating conditions aro seldom the saime, much less, traffic and commercial conditions. The old rate of $3.10 paid, as above stated, an average return of about 5 mills per ton-mile. There are many instances within the knowledge ' of the Commission where lumber has been and is now being transported for a less charge than this.. The $3.10 rate was certainly a low one, but we are satisfied that it did yield when established, has ever since yielded, and would for tho future yield a substantial return over and above the cost- of operation and that its mainten ance in the past has contributed much to the prosperity of the defendants. Harriman's Huge Profits. It appears that net earnings of tho Southern Pacific in 1907 were more than gross earnings had been ten years be fore and that present net earnings are about $2500 per mile. When it is remem bered that moro than half of this mile age consists of .branch lines, not ex pensive to construct, it would appear that the above returns are fairly compensa tory. ' The above figures abundantly confirm the Judgment of Mr. Huntington that a rate should be made- which would de velop tho lumber industry of this region, and In our opinion the maintenance of this $3.10 rate would be also for the ad vantage of the defendants In the immed iate future. These mills are established and they will continue to do business upon a margin of profit much smaller than would have been sufficient to in duce their construction In the beginning. But It has been seen that their only market for poorer grades of common lum ber Is to the south and that without a market for this class of lumber they can not successfully compete with other mills upon the Pacific Coast. As already suggested, when tho prieo of stumpage has sufficiently Increased in other sections, this lumber in the Willam ette Valley can be manufactured at a profit upon the $6 rate, but for the pres ent It seems highly probable that tho con tinuance of the lower rate is necessary to a continuance of the business itself In anything like its present volume. Upon these facts, what conclusion should be reached as to the justice of tho advance of April 18, 1907, and as to tho lawfulness of the present rate? Tho de fendant insists that the present rate is a reasonable one and that the defendant companies aro under no obligation to maintain a rato which is unreasonably low for tho future because they have vol untarily done so in tho past. The com plainants Insist that the present rate Is unreasonable. They say that the old rate paid the defendants a handsome profit over the cost of operation: that under It and largely by reason of It tho present prosperity of these defendants has come, and that, this being so. it would be most unjust to allow them to advance It, In view of the circumstances under which-It was established and has been maintained in tho past. The' com plainants earnestly insist that wo may and should look into tho past history of this rate In disposing of this question. No Contract Is Asserted. It is not claimed that the defendants were under contract with any one ship per, nor with the general body of ship pers in that region to maintain the $3.10 rate. It Is doubtful if such a contract would be valid, and at any rato no such contract was ever made. While the de fendants announced that they would es tablish a rate of $3.10 they never stated that they would maintain this rate in ef fect for any given length of time. What happened was this: It was well understood that this lum ber could not be manufactured and would not be manufactured unless a rato was established from these mills to San Fran cisco, which was fairly equivalent to the water rate from Portland and Puget Sound points to that same market. This being so. the Southern- Pacific Company had possibly two courses open to It. It might continue in effect its 25-cent rate until such time as with the depletion of forests elsewhere this timber in the Will amette Valley could be profitably market- ed upon that rate. Such a course would deprive that company of Immediate traffic, but would in the end give to it a much larger measure of profit from the handling of the. traffic. It might, in the second place, establish the low rate and develop the industry at once in com petition with mills at other points upon the Pacific Coast. It elected to adopt tha latter policy. It so announced to tho public and to Individuals who wero con templating the construction of mills in this section. It inaugurated that policy by the putting in of the rate Itself. Having maintained that rate for five years, It withdrew it, but upon further consideration announced once more that it would adhere to its former policy and would restore tho rate, which It did. Upon tho strength of this action these mills in tho Willametto Valley have been established; tlu?y would never have been established without it; they cannot profit ably exist today without it. The expense of handling traffic under this rate is not greater than the revenue, thereby oc casioning a loss which must be made up upon other business. Such a rate would present an entirely different question from that before us. Here the business Is re munerative directly, beside being highly beneficial to the defendants indirectly. Cites a Typical Case. No argument and no citation of authori ty can, however, add to the naked state ment of the fact. Take, for example, tho case of Mr. Miles. This gentleman had established a mill upon the strength of the $3.10 rate, which he was operating In the year 1903. He had also made ar- ran gements for the building of another mill and for the purchase of a large tract of timber. Hearing rumors that this rate was to be withdrawn, he suspended his operations. Subsequently, upon being as sured by tho officials of the Southern Pa cific Company that It would continue its former policy, and relying upon the res toration of the rate itself, he resumed the construction of his mill and completed the purchase of his. timber. Is it Just and reasonable that within less than three years this company shall be allowed to again reverse its policy and to destroy tho value of this man's property? We think not; tho tremendous interests Involved in the stability of railway rates must not bo Juggled with in this manner. We do not hold, as a general proposition that a rail road company having established and maintained a rate Is conclusively estopped from advancing that rate, nor that where a rate Is put in for a special purpose it may not be taken out when that purpose has been subserved and new conditions havo grown up. We apply our decision entlrly to the facts in the case before us. Considering all the circumstances, having in mind the just interests of all parties, wo conclude that these defendants ought to maintain, for the Immediate future at least, substantially the same rate which they have maintained in tho past. It has been seen that this . timber in the Willamette Valley must be given a rate to San Francisco which Is sub stantially equivalent to tho water rate from Portland. All parties were original ly satisfied that the' $3.10 rate substan tially nt this condition. Water charters from Portland have ranged somewhat higher in the last few years than when this original rate was established; tho testimony indicates from 25 to 50 cents per 1000 feef. This being so. it seems reasonable that this lumber rate should be also some what advanced, and we think that for tho next two years a rate of 17 cents per 100 pounds, or $3.40 per ton, might properly be charged. The second question presented Is whether this rate shall also be applied to west side mills above Corvallls. or whether rates from those mills shall be iij the future as in the past, 25 cents per. ton Mgher than from mills upon the east bank. As to Corvallls & Eastern. It will bo remembered that the main lino of the defendants runs from Portland south along the east bank of tho Will amette River, but that there 1s another lino with branches extending up tho west bank of the river. Connection Is made between these lines upon the west and tho east at Portland and also by cross ing tho river from Corvallls to Albany. The road from Corvallls to Albany was formerly an Independent lino known as the Corvallls & Eastern. Lumber originat ing upon the west bank for transporta tion south over the lines of tho defendant companies could either be hauled to Port land by tho defendants and thence by their own lines south or it could be hauled by the defendant's lines south to Cor vallls and thence over the Corvallls & Eastern to a connection with the main lino at Albany. The rate charged byj tho Corvallls & Eastern for this service was 25 cents per ton. The length of the road is about 15 miles, and this would seem to be, under the circumstances, a reason able charge. Within a comparatively recent time It appears that the Southern Pacific interests have purchased the stock of the Corvallls & Eastern, so that that road, while still operated In name as an In dependent proposition, is in reality a part of tho defendants' lines. The complain ants Insist that for this reason the charge of 25 cents should no longer be Imposed against the west bank. Tho cost to the defendants of handling this lumber from the west side Is un doubtedly more, upon the average, than where it originates upon the east side. Bates in tho past havo always been higher from that section, and In our opinion there is no reason why the same difference may not exist or tho future and for the same reason. The third question arises upon the claim tkt tfaa interveners that whatever rate is its 51 ce Valley should be extended to Portland has been seen that originally the $3.10 rato applied to Portland, but that since 1903 this has not been true. During a portion of the time the rato from there to San, Francisco has been hither than $5. but the rate now is $5 and this has been the ruling rat since August, 1903. Portland's Superior Location. Tito considerations which induce us to apply this lower rato to mills in the Will ametto Valley do not obtain in case of Portland. These manufacturers have the benefit of the water rate and are not therefore dependent at all upon the de fendants for reaching the San Francisco market. The low rate was only applied to "Portland for a comparatively short tlmo and has not been in force there for tho last four years. It is of no special importance to the' manufacturer at that point and no injustice is done by with drawing it. The distance from Portland is considerably greater than the average distance from Willamette Valley mills, and. on tho whole, we think the defend ants should be left to their option in meeting or declining to meet water rates at Portlands The claim of the interveners Is therefore denied. We are of the opinion, then, that tho present rate of $5 from all mills in the Willamette Valley, not Including Port land, Is unjust and unreasonable; that for tho future from mills upon the east bank, and upon the west bank south of Corvallls. that rate should not exceed 17 cents per 100 pounds, or $3.40 per ton, upon rough, green fir lumber and lath, and that from points upon the west bank north of Corvallis it should not exceed $3.63 per ton. All questions of repara tion are reserved for further proceedings. An order will be Issued accordingly. DECISIONS OX EASTERN RATE Two Opinions Practically Identical Are Handed Down. . OREGONIAN NEWS BUREAU, Wash ington, June 21. The Interstate Com merce Commission rendered two iden tical decisions on the complaints of Pacific Coast lumber manufacturers against the advance of 10 cents In rates on Pacific Coast lumber, shipped to points East, one opinion by Commis sioner Clark, the other by Commis sioner Clements. Commissioner Clark rendered his opinion on the complaint of the Oregon & Washington Lumber Manufacturers' Association, and the de cision of Commissioner Clements was rendered on the complaints of the Pa cific Coast Lumber Manufacturers' As sociation and Southwest Washington Lumber Manufacturers' Association. The Clark decision, which is identical with that by Commissioner Clements, orders that: Text of Court's Order. The defendants ... be and they are are hereby, notified, and required to cease and desist on or before the lflth day of August, 1908. from enforcing their present rates on interstate shipments of lumber, shingles and other forest products, from points of origin in Oregon, Washington. Idaho. Montana and British Columbia, to points In various stages and territories east and southeast thereof, excluding those points to which rates are prescribed by the Com mission In Case No. 1054 (Portland Gateway case (Southern Oregon case). It is further ordered. That said defend ants, and each of them. be. and they are hereby, notified and required to establish and put in force on or before the said 15th day of August. 1908, and maintain In force thereafter during a period of not less than two years, rates on said Interstate shipments of lumber, shingles and other forest products from said points of origin to said points of destination . which shall in no instance exceed the rates on ilka shipments between the same points which had been duly filed with the com mission as required by law and which were in effect Immediately prior to November 1, 1907, subject to present minimum weight regulations and to the following limitations: The rates on said lumber, shingles, and other forest products from said points of ori gin to all points on and west of a line drawn from Pembina, N. D-, to Port Arthur. Texas, along the Kansas City Southern Railway, also including all points that now take the same rates as any of the points located on said line between and Including Sioux City, Iowa, and Kansas City. Mo., and excluding those points to whloh rates are prescribed In Case No. 1054 (Portland Gateway), and in Case No. 1331 (Southern Oregon) which were In effect Immediately prior to Novem ber 1, 1907. shall be restored, except that the differentials prescribed In Case No. 1.(48 (Potlatch case) shall be observed: the rates which were In effect Immediately prior to November 1, 1907, from said polntB of ori gin to points east of the line mentioned, and excluding all points to which the rates are now the aume as to any of the points located on said line between and including Sioux City. Iowa, and Kansas City. Mo., may be increased, in no case exceeding 5 cents per 100 pounds, and subject to the differentials prescribed in said Case No. 134S. (PotlatchV This case will be held open for such sup plemental proceedings as it may b5 neces sary for interested parties to Institute In respect to reparation. Views of Commissioner. In explaining his reasons for ad judging tho new rate unreasonable. Commissioner Clark, in part, says: The widest possible, market for their medium and common lumber Is what the North Pacific Coast lumber men need most and every market that can reasonably be opened to their common lumber operates to lessen the waste and destruction in the natural supply. From 30 to 50 per cent of the finished output of the Oregon mills reaches the territory affected by the Increase in rates. The combined North Pacific Coast Interests market about 6,000, 000.000 feet annually, as against ap proximately 19,000,000.000 feet of Southern pine and white pine, which shows that the latter two predominate and fix the price In competitive mar kets. It Is alleged by yellow-plno dealers that an advance of 5 to 10 cents per 100 pounds In their freight rates would drive them out of competi tive territory. It may be. safely said that all the carriers Involved in this complaint show In their reports large Incomes and large surplus earnings over and above the cost of operation, mainte nance of way and equipment, deprecia tion thereof, fixed charges and various sinking funds for extension of lines and retiring of bonds, and reasonable dividends upon the amounts invested. See report in Pacific Coast Lumber Manufacturers' Association et al. and Southwest Washington Lumber Manu facturers' Association et al. vs. North ern Pacific Railway Company et al., infra. From this it appears that the sched ule of rates applying to each defendant lino, as a whole, furnishes sufficient revenue. The density of traffic on the defendant lines has Increased fo such an extent that It is more than can be advantageously handled on single track roads. Double-track extensions are now In progress on some of them, and It was claimed by defendants at time of hearing that within seven months they would be able to handle all traffic offered. The Supremo Court of the United States has said In Interstate Commerce Commission vs. Chicago great "Western Railway Company, 209 U. S., 108, that an Increase of rates by a carrier raises no presumption of wrong. It seems, however, that when certain rates have been in force for a long period of time and business conditions have become well settled thereon and the carrier Is earning a liberal income and paying liberal dividend while expending large sums In- improvements and renewals, a material increase in those rates unac established from mills in the Willametto companied by a corresponding decrease In other rates places upon tho carrier the obligation of Justifying the in crease. Basis of Complaint. Under this presumption complainants , contend that the. old rates were rea sonable and remunerative; that under them many mills have been built and large amounts of money havo been In vested w-hich under the new rates will be lost because the mills cannot find an outlet for their product In the terri tory affected by the advance in tho rates; that the consumers in the affect ed territory are likewise interested; that the carriers should grant rates that will permit the widest possible competition in commodities; that tho carriers' total Incomes from their en tire schedules of rates are sufficiently remunerative and profitable, and such being the case the carriers aro estopped from increasing a rato on any commodity that will increase the in come; that if the total income Is suf ficient they are not permitted to In crease the rate on a given commodity that may be lower than the cost of transportation. To this last proposi tion we, of course, can not assent. While denying an intent to claim that a rate on a commodity may bo based upon the profitable nature of an Industry producing it. yet defendants indirectly advance that theory. They also InslBt that every commodity should bear Its Just burden of rates and that lumber did not bear Its Just proportion and that therefore the rates thereon should have been increased. If this Is true, some other commodity is bearing too high a rate, but defendants have not suggested which one. They also insist that the changed conditions since the law rates were inaugurated required the advance. Neither of tho parties are right in all their conten tions. Competitive rates made by the several carriers serving tho different points of production may be lower than they could be compelled tcA make. Tho law permits the making of a competitive rate to the extent above mentioned, but there Is no) law that requires the carriers to go to that extent. -This controversy can not be determined wholly upon the ground that complainants have enjoyed tho lower rate for many years and that In terests have been built up thereunder, and that loss of business, investments, profits and markets will result under tho increased rates. It must be determined on the justness or reasonableness of tho rates In controversy. Neither do tha Interests of the public require that lum ber should be transported at other than Just and reasonable rates. Review of Conditions. It seems quite clear that tha price of lumber prior to this advance in rates had reached a point where further increase In the price would have brought about tho use of substitutes therefor in all In stances where substitutes could bo used. On tho prico prevailing prior to July, 1907. it is clear that the Pacific Coast lumber dealers could not have absorbed in their selling price "this increase In rate, nor could they have added it there to and competed successfully with yellow pine. It Is undoubtedly true that this ad vance in the rate must be absorbed some place, and if the logs aro to be deemed the raw material, as an economic princi ple the raw material would havo to ab sorb this Increased rate If disposition Is) to bo made of such raw material. This theory assumes that the logs aro cut. The advance in the rate would not reduce the price of timber land or stumpage, and up to the time of the hearing had la no way affected them. Whether tho advance In the rates be) absorbed in the price of tho raw material or whether it comes out of tho manufac tured product. It Is apparent that some one's profits aro reduced under this ad vance in tho rates, and whether the log gers havo been making 'an unusual profit or tho mill men owning their own logs have made an abnormal profit thereon, or the mills have made large profits on the manufactured product, the advanced rato cannot be Justified on these propo sitions. It must bo justified on the ground that is Just and reasonable, re gardless of the prosperous condition of the Industry affected, or where It will be absorbed. So that we have these proposi tions: If tho old rates wero too low to be just and reasonable, complainants cannot urge their loss as a ground for maintaining them; If the old rates were Just and reasonable, tho defendants can not justify the advance on the ground of the prosperity of the lumber business, or that the loggers will absorb tho Increase in the decreased price of raw material. The defendants urge with great vigor that the empty eastbound car movement prevailing at tho time of tho establish ment of the 40-ccnt rate was the principal factor Influencing tho establishment of that rate and as the empty-car move ment Is now westbound, a condition has arisen which was not contemplated at the time of the establishment of tho 40 cent rate. An examination of tho records of the various defendants shows that the empty-car movement Is now westbound. The group system of rate-making is well recognized In constructing rates up on such commodities as lumber and coal, and It obtains in the yellow pine district as well. It is also a well-established principle to make transcontinental rates apply alike to large areas over which such rates "blanket." It would seem un wise to attempt to give Seattle and Ta coma a better rate than Portland or other points in tho North Pacific territory. From Clements' Opinion. Tho following extracts are taken from the statement by Commissioner Clements1: It appears that, notwithstanding tho vast increase In the volume of this traf fic since It began to move, as will bo shown In a subsequent statement, tho rates In many instances were higher Just before these last advances than they had been prior thereto for considerable periods of time when the volume of the traffic was much less than at the tlmo of tho Increases complained of, and in some noticeable Instances they are now materially higher than they were 30 years ago. An examination of the tariffs shows that there has been a steady Increase In. the carload mlnlmums prescribed for this traffic. Up to 1894 the minimum was usually 20.000 pounds, since which time thero has been a gradual increase In tho mlnlmums and in the capacity of the cars. In 1906 the minimum weight was changed to be governed by cubical ca pacity of the car and ranged from 23. CX) to 67.000 pounds. .It is claimed by com plainants' that the increase in the mini mum loading requirements has amounted to an advance of from $70 to $100 per car In tho charges. It is conceded that the average loading in 1906 and 1907 was ap proximately 58.000 pounds per car. It Is not open to question, therefore, that the earnings per car under the present mini mum rules are considerably more than In former years, but it must also be borne in mind that the larger and more modern, equipment is heavier and -costs more to construct. The principal lines over which this traffic moves have been moreexpensive to, construct and operate than the lines leading from the south to Chicago and other competitive points In that region. It appears that the empty car move ment westward predominates to a greater extent ,on the Great Northern road and other lines on which the products of tho mines constitute a greater proportion of the' traffic handled than forest products, than on the Northern Pacific, whlcli