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VOL. LV- NO. 17,04G.
PORTLAND, OREGON. TUESDAY, JULY 13. 1015.
ririci: rivi: cents.
EDISOfl WILL HEAD
BOARD OF IflVErlTORS
Reply to "Call of His
Country" Is Made.
NAYY DEPARTMENT ASKS AID
Secretary Daniels Urges That
Submarine Menace Be Met.
ADVISORY BUREAU CREATED
Great Inventor Agrees to Take
Cbarge of Civilian Board to Work
Out AVays of Perfecting
WEST ORANGE. N. J.. July 12.
Thomas A. Edison has accepted, an in
vitation from Secretary Daniels to
head an advisory board of civilian in
ventors for a bureau of invention and
development to be created in the Navy
His acceptance will go forward at
once to Washington, where the new
plans await word from the man "who
can turn dreams into realities."
Prominent Men to Aid.
Mr. Daniels" idea of utilizing the
Inventive genius of Americans in and
out of the military and naval service
to meet conditions of warfare shown
in the conflict on land and sea in Eu
rope is outlined in a letter written last
Wednesday asking Mr. Edison whether,
as a patriotic service to his country,
he would undertake the task of ad
vising the proposed bureau. The plan
is fo have several men prominent in
(pedal lines of inventive research as
sociated in the work.
Among the great problems to be
laid before the investigators the Sec
retary mentioned submarine warfare,
adding that he felt sure that with Mr.
Edison's wonderful brain to help them
the officers of the Navy would be able
"to meet this new danger with new
devices that will assure peace to our
country by their effectiveness."
Attitude Pleases Mr. Daniels.
"I have been - intending for some
time," Mr. Daniels said in his letter,
"to write to you expressing my admira
tion at the splendid and patriotic atti
tude you have taken, as reported in the
public press, in refusing to devote your
great Inventive genius to warlike sub
jects except at the call of your own
country. Such an attitude, in these all
too commercial times, is one that should
be an inspiration to our young men,
and a lesson in the pre-eminent right
of one's own country to the best that
its citizens have that will be of tre
mendous benefit to us all.
"I have deferred writing you, how
ever, because, at that time, I wanted
to take up with you another matter to
which I have given a great deal of
thought a matter in which I think
your ideas and mine coincide if an in
terview with you recently published in
the New York Times was correct. There
is a very great service that you can
render the Navy and the country at
larsre, and which I am encouraged to
believe you will consent to undertake,
as It seems to be in line with your own
Department of Invention Planned.
"One of the important needs of the
Navy, In my Judgment, is machinery
and facilities for utilizing the natural
inventive genius of Americans to meet
the new conditions of warfare as
shown abroad, and it is my intention, if
a practical way can be worked out. as
1 think it can be. to establish at th
earliest m n m n t a deno rt m -.e
vention and development to which all
i Ideas and suggestions, either from the
service or from civil Inventors, can be
referred for determination as to
whether they contain practical sugges
tions for us to take up and perfect.
"There are, unfortunately, no officers
now detailed who can take time from
ine mass 01 worK wnicn they are
called upon to do in order to devote it
fully to studying new suggestions and
"The department Is also unprovided
witn the best facilities for work of
pure experimentation and investiga
tion, with the exception of our testing
Fiauon at Annapolis, which Is, as yet.
a small affair. Most of all, as I have
said, there is no particular place or
particular body of men relieved of
other work, charged solely with th
duty of either devising new things
themselves or perfecting the crud
ideas that are submitted to the depart
ment by our naturally inventive people.
Edison Is Asked to Be Adviser,
'I have in mind a general plan of
organizing such a department which is
still hazy 'as to details, but which. In
a general way, meets, so far as th
r.avy is concerned, with your ideas o
such a department for the Governmen
in general. I want to use such faclli
ties for experimental and investigation
work as we have, under the direction of
men particularly selected for ability
shown In this direction, to whom would
be referred all suggestions of new de
vices sent into the department, and
would work out such ideas to a prac
"What I want to ask is if you would
be willing, as a service to your coun
try, to act as an adviser to this de
partment, to take such things as seem
to you to be of value but which we
art not, at present, equipped to In
vestigate and use your own magnificent
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PATH WHO TRIED MARK I AGE AT
SEA FINALLY WED DEO.
American Consul at Shanghai Per
forins Ceremony Delayed by
High Seas at Xevrport.
NEWPORT, Or., July 12. (Special)
Love at last has found a way in the
case of Dr. R. W. Donohoe and Mrs.
Cressey Warnock Hughes, both late
residents of Toledo, Or., who were mar
ried in Shanghai, China, a few days ago.
The young couple had tried In vain
to get married in this county, as Mrs.
Donohoe was the divorced wife of Allen
Hughes, of Astoria, and the legal in
terval had not elapsed. They chartered
the launch Ollte S. at Newport, intend
ing to go beyond the three-mile limit
at sea, where Captain Carner. master
of the vessel. would have officiated.
But fate was against them. The bar
was too rough to permit the launch to
pass out. and, as they intended to sail
a few days later for Shanghai, they
abandoned the attempt and went to
They sailed May 28 on a Japanese
steamer and would have been married
on board by the captain, but Mrs. Dono
hoe objected to a Japanese ceremony.
A letter received today by Mrs. Dono
hoe' s father, Robert Warnock. of To
ledo, said that they were in Japan and
soon would be in Shanghai, where they
would be married at the United States
Consulate upon their arrival.
Dr. Donohoe will practice dentistry
n Shanghai. He met his wife at Toledo
DEAD BOY'S MOTHER WINS
Mrs. GuSble Wrd Get $1500 Ver
dict Against New Market Garage.
Mrs. Gussle Ward, widowed mother
of 12-year-old Russell Ward, who was
killed by an auto truck at Killings-
worth and Williams avenues last No
vember, was awarded 11500 by a Jury
n Circuit Judge Morrow's court yes
terday. She had sued for S7500 for the
death of her son. The New Market
Garage was the defendant.
It was for the death of Russell Ward
that Fred Skogseth, driver of the auto
truck, was convicted of Involuntary
manslaughter by a Jury in Judge
Gaten's department a month ago. Be
cause of the death of the court re
porter who took notes on the trial.
Judge Gatens recently granted 6kog-
seth a new trial.
FRENCH CONTRIBUTE GOLD
Public Responds Freely to Appeal
for Precious Metal.
PARIS. July 11. (Delayed In Trans
mission.) The flow of gold from the
private stocks of the public into the
Bank of Prance continues. More than
10,000 persons deposited gold at the
bank during Friday and Saturday.
Recently the Bank of France extend
ed an invitation to the public to turn
in its private hoards of gold to
strengthen the national reserve. The
response was such that the bank had
to designate a half dozen receiving
tellers to take the coin offered.
ENGINE PHEASANT'S PERCH
Train at Hood Kiver Pulls In With
Maimed Bird on Pilot.
HOOD RIVER, Or., July 12. (Spe
cial.) When the westbound Pendleton
express of the O.-W. R. & N. pulled
into the station here yesterday a China
pheasant cockerel with a broken leg
was taken from the pilot. The bird
had flown against the train Just west
of the city and managed to maintain
perch. It was turned over to Station
Mr. Fredricy says tht last week it
was with difficulty that he kept
pheasant hen out of the station wait
FRENCH OUTBUY ISSUE
Bill Introduced to Increase Defense
Fund to $1,400,000,000.
PARIS. July 12. The minister of
finance, M. Rlbot, Introduced today In
the Chamber of Deputies a bill raising
the limit of the issue of national de
fense bonds from 11,203.000.000 a
fixed in the law of May 18, to 11.400,
Subscriptions already have exceeded
the previous limit by t30.000.000. The
French public in 11 months has taken
?1, 680, 000.000 of national bonds.
COLONEL BULGER DOOMED
Colorado Supreme Court Affirm
Sentence for Murder.
DENVER. Colo, July 12. The Colo
rado Supreme Court today affirmed the
death sentence of Colonel James C
Bulger, soldier of fortune, convicted of
the murder of Lloyd L. Nlcodemua,
Denver hotel manager, in Denver, May
Bulger Is sentenced to be hanged In
the week beginning October 31.
GARMENT WORKERS STRIKE
10,000 Employes Demand Increase
in Wages and Recognition.
istw iokx, July 13. A carmen
workers" strike, the first for several
years, began here today when 10,000
pants makers left their shops.
The principal demands of the strik
ers are for a sanitary shop, recogni
tion of the union and an Increase in
ONLY ROMANCE IN
WAR BEHIND LINES
Slaughter No Longer
Has Gild of Glamor.
CHILDREN HOPELESSLY LOST
"Missing Heir" Theme Will Be
Revived by Novelists.
FAMILIES TORN APART
Belgians See Strange Warriors Take
Places In Land From Which They
Are Forced to Flee Few Know
How to Find Relatives.
mr wiiu irwin.
NORTHERN FRANCE. June 14.
(Special.) For at least a generation,
I suppose, no one will have the su
preme nerve to write romance about
the operations of this War. A few gen
erations hence, when time has made us
forget some of its plain slaughter and
Irt and horror, the romanticists may
be busy -with It, as they are busy now
with the Napoleonic wars. Some of the
brilliant young men now wallowing
about In the trenches, caring little at
present whether or no a bullet comes
to end their misery, may take their pens
in hand and turn It Into realistic fic
tion after the fashion of Zola's "La
Debacle. But not romance no, thank
you! It is Just about as romantic as
the pig-sticking room of the Chicago
Stockyards on a hot day.
On the other hand, there is enough
romance and to spare behind the lines.
All Europe, of course. Is In a state of
unprecedented upheaval. A good part
of Western Europe has run away to
find homes in parts of the world quite
strange and unknown to home-staying
people like the Belgians and the North
ern French. Families have become
trusts; ! lew Appear.
Into this land of the little-traveled
have come bodies of stalwart young
men of breeds which the people of the
little villages have known only from
books before Turcos, Hindus, Sikhs,
Western Canadians. Americans, even
North American Indians. The peaceful
waters which surround France and
England have suddenly become seas of
monsters. Inhabited by steel fish
which shoot. The skies are peopled by
monstrous birds which drop death. A
little Journey across the channel now
adays or even a Journey by land In
the war zone has become an adven
ture, so that the "good luck" which
we customarily wish travelers upon
their departure really means something
nowadays. The romancer of the next
few years. If he only study his own
times, will not need much of an Imagi
Take the "missing heir" theme which
novelists used to love in the days of
the old three-decker. All over Europe
there are potential missing heirs, for
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INDEX OF TODAY'S NEWS
TESTER DAY'S Maximum temperature. TO
d a re a , minimum. v dum a.
TODAY'S Tutidir (air; northwesterly
Will Irwin says only romance of war Is
found behind lines. I'as 1
French ryt-.ltn.M graphically describe
strusgla tor dominating balght. fas -
German cruieer Konisebers la destroyed In
Est African river. I'as X
Mralr. Villa forces near Mexico City. Paso 2.
Sharp noto to b sent to Berlin by United
Males. face 1.
Thomu A. Edison accepts position as neaa
of advisory board ot inventions lor united
elate Navy, fas 1.
Court denle application of John B. L"
aqn tor new triai. J .
Alienist declares Thaw Is paranoia. Pag
Dearer to open aeries asalnet Reals today,
with McAru: at short. I ae lo.
Cincinnati eomee bees and blanks wtani
after losing ihl straight same lo iau.
Harvard tennle player are eliminated from
champion. hip play at ban r"racico fair.
Trio of Multnomah Club a tmmera. to com
pete In champlonehlpa at fair, to depart
today- l-as 10.
Tolsdo pair, foiled In plana for marine mar-
rlace. era wedded at rihansnai. I'as J
Thousand of Bhriners capture beat lie with
merry-making. I'as i.
Colonel Alden J. Blethen. Feattle publisher.
die after ilnsertns Illness. Pas 3.
Grand Army "boy- Invade Chautauqua and
art gvQ rooalPS welcome. Pas 12.
Lejtlalatora unit asalnat special lo en
land grant caa. I'as 12.
MUltla to entrain Thuradar to act as guard
for Liberty Hell In Portland parade.
Commercial and Marine.
W. R. Orae Company announce lumber ear-
ne. 10 bo floated In month. Pag 15.
Engllih buyars rapidly clearing Coast stocks
of hops. Pas 15.
Active cattle and hog market at Portland
blockyorde. page 1J.
Steel in atrong demand In Wall Street stock
market. Page 11.
Chicago wheat depre.aed by mallnea of vis
ible supply decree. Pag li.
Portland and Vicinity.
Prinelnlea of law laid down by Supreme
pi in rtrernn .California land gram
caa followed by Judg Woleerton In
Coos Bay wagon road grant cm. Tag -glx
mor public comfort stations ar sought.
Mr. Dodge tells. In court, of deal Involving
more than million. Page 11.
n..i nl.n, for reception of IJberty Bell
are comDleted. Page ft.
Four project Indorsed by Chamber of oi
niri-e. Pae 1.
Tortlind nearly deserted by hrlnr. who
attend SeattI conclave, t-ss .
v. miii shown at vaudeville theaters.
Judge Gatens frees bub slayers, denouncing
double standard. Pag -
Federal wltnea In Cashier caa put tbrougo
arrlUlnr croes-exemlnatton. Pag 1.
president of General Federation of Women's
Clubs passes tnruugn j-oniano. i .
weather report, data and forecast. Page IS.
WOMEN FRIENDS UNITED
Two Separated 4S Years Meet Again
at Visit to Albany.
ALBANY, Or.. July It. (Special.)
When Mrs. Elisabeth P. Lee. of Seattle,
and Mrs. Mary E. Boles, of Corvallls.
met here yesterday It was the first
time they had seen each other for 1
years. They were close friends more
than four decades ago. At that time
both resided In Brooklyn. N. Y-. Mrs.
Lee's husband being pastor of a Prea
byterlan church there, while Mrs.
Boles' husband was an onlcer of the
Although both have been on the Pa
clflc Coast for several years, they did
not happen to meet. Mrs. Lee Is now
visiting her son. Dr. Wallace How
Lee. of Albany College, and Mrs. Boles
came from Corvallls to attend the Al
bany Chautauqua. Dr. Ire and Justus
Boles, of Corvallls, sons of the two
i women, were born only 1J days apart.
WHAT DO WE CARE!
mi Ann nrni u td I
onnnr ncru iu
Next Ioce Will Leave
No Room for Doubt
CRISIS THOUGHT TO BE NEAR
Positive Statement as to De
mands of America Planned.
WEEK'S DELAY PROBABLE
I nllctl Stales Xol to Kecede Iom
Stand Herlln to Re Called to Ac
count for Itefasal to Murow
Sinking of I.axltanla.
WASHINGTON. July IX Consider
ation of the German reply to the
American note on submarine warfare
overshadows all els today in the work
of State Department officials.
Secretary Lansing spent most of his
time preparing data and opinions for
the nest communication to be sent to
Germany, and he Indicated that prob
ably he would not go to Cornish. N. IL.
but that President Wilson would re
turn heie at the end of the week.
Mtaatloa Described aa OH leal.
The situation was described In offi
cial quarters aa critical, and there was
no concealment of the fact that rela
tions between Germany and the I'nlted
States had become more strained than
at any time In their history.
High officials said the policy of the
American Government would be care
fully worked out, and that to meet
the situation firmly the utmost delib
eration was required. This Informa
tion was given out In order that a de
lay of possibly a week or more In pre
paring an answer might not be mis
Interpreted as meaning that the United
Slates Intended In any way to recede
from the position It had taken In the
two notes already sent to Berlin.
teat May He Avowed,
there was much Informal discussion
among officials of the content of the
German reply. The trend of their opla
lon was that the ration ot the Ameri
can argument In the German notes had
narrowed th field of negotiation so
that the next communication from the
United States must state to soma ex
tent the Intention of the Washington
Government In rase Its rights are
further violated, and declare the posi
tion It will take with reference to Ger
many's refujul to disavow the sinking
of the Lusltania.
Something much more specific and
positive than has yet been said In the
notes which the United States has sent
since th submarine war son was de
clared is now expected.
Net to It Ilrlef.
uiliciais gut in Impression that
there would be no further argument on
the principles Involved: that the note
would be very brief and slate a gen
eral policy whRh the American Govern
ment Intends to follow with respect to
I Concluded ou Tec S. Column i. I
Mondays War Moves
FROM what appeared to be a lull on
the western front has sprung sud
denly some of the moat severe fighting
in months, with the Germans the ag
gressors and victors.
The touches Cemetery, seven miles
north of Arras and hardly half that
distance southwest vf Lens, hss been
wrested from the French after a gr
man gas attack, followed by hand-to-hand
fighting with bomb and bayonet.
The French admit this loss and ar
fighting to regain the ground which
they had won at such heavy cost.
Slowly the French had been tlcbt
enlng their grip on the villas of Sou
ches until the ticrmana. aware that the
capture of the entire position would
be an Important step In the French
offensive toward Lens ami Lille,
launched a terrific counter stroke,
which left them master of the shat
tered burial ground with more than
ISO prisoners In their hands. Ft.htins
among th houses which fringe th
western edge of the town still rat;.
There has also been a renewal of ac
tivity In other areas of France and
lirlgium, but nothing comparable wth
the strategic Importance of the Soucnea
struggle. The German lay claim to
th destruction of the BrUl.h position
on Hill 0. near Ypres. but this finds
no confirmation from either Krench or
The situation in Poland and Gallcla
has not yet reached a crisis, and War
saw appears to be in no Immediate
Whether the British and French or
th Germans will be the first to take
the general offensive In tb west Is a
big question, for It Is felt that one side
or the other must strike before long:
otherwise another Winter of tedious
trench warfare Is Inevitable.
The destruction of the German cruiser
Koenigaberg In a Jungle-lined river of
Eat Africa was learned with surprise,
the fact that she had taken refuge
there having been forgotten by the gen
The Italian attacks against Austria
seem to be gaining In intensity, but the
Vienna official statement admits no
toss of ground.
SI 00,000 OFFER IS MADE
Dallas, Texas., Socks National 1 cmo
cratlc Convention by t'ontrlbutlon.
NEW YORK. July It. William F.
McComba, chairman of the Democratic
National Committee,- received today
from Dallas. Te&as, an offer of 1160.000
as a cash contribution, to the funds of
the National Democratic Committee
should th 114 convention be held In
Dallas also pledges a coliseum seat
ing 15.000 persons and adequate ac
commodations for both delegates and
VICTOR IN AFRICA REPLIES
Ilrilicit Cacncral Hopes lo Put Men
la ncld la Eurotie Soon.
LONDON. July 1 1. General Botha.
Premier of the Union of South Africa,
has replied as follows to Ijord Kitch
ener's cabled congratulations on the
conquest of German Southwest Africa.
"I most cordially thank ou for your
kind congratulations, which are highly
appreciated by all. I hope that soon
many of my men here will take their
share In the greater task In Europe."
COLLEGE GETS $500,000
Will or Lusltania Victim II led for
Probate Reveals Grant.
PlTT?nF.U. ila.s, July II. The
sum of tSOQ.OOO la left to Tufr College
and 1100. 000 for other charitable pur
poses by the will of Dr. Fred S. Pear
son. Lusltania victim, late of r.rest
Barrlnston. Mass.. and London. Eng
land, filed for probate her today.
Dr. Pearson left an estate of about
f S0.000.000. moel of which goea to two
sons and a daughter.
WAR GETS 200.000 HORSES
Firty Men Added to IVjrce to Handle
Animals on Way lYom Wcwt-
HtVTOtf. W. Va July II fifty men
today were added to the force r
quired te handle the war horses fed
and watered her on their way from
the west to the Atlantic seaboard.
Fully JOft.OOO hor.es have been
handled sine th European war began.
according to th officers In chare.
BRITONS GET CZAR'S CROSS
Empcmr Honors Submarine Crew
iVThtctt Sank fierman.
tIVrtflV ti.lr 1J Pmnarar Vlcb.
olas of Russia has conferred th Cross
or St. George upon ail in on leer ana
crew of the British submarine which
recently sank a German battleship In
Announcement of the awarding of
the cross was made here today.
STEEL TARIFFS SUSPENDED
Railroads Increase; on I Late to
Coast Held Up FVor Months,
WASHINGTON". July I i. Tariff a of
th Chicago. Milwaukee V Ft- Paul and
other railroads naming Increased rates
on structural steel In rarlnads for Pa
cific Coast points. Portland. Seattle and
some Interior towns, were suspended
today until November 1 J. by the Inter-
"- Ccmcrca CommUelun.
GRILLING IS GIVEN
Testimony of Mr. Sala
ATTORNEY SEVERE AT TIMES
Walter McHenry, Des Moines.
Acts for Salesmen.
RIDICULE AND SATIRE USED
Montana Holder of Stuck Au.-nlu
I"irt Purchase Watt Made ou Ad
vice of Itaitkcr and lalll In
Machines Still Retained.
Walter McHenry, attorney, of Des
Moines, la-, took an active part for the
flri time ye.lerj.ty I . the trial of
seven officials and saleenien of th
United States Cashier Company for al
leged conspiracy to violate the postal
fraud statute, when In behalf of two
of the defendant salesmen. It K. Hon-
newell and 11. M. Toid. he put licit
Salaberry, shccprali-cr. of Klmdale. Mon
tana, through the sharpest rroa-ex-
aminallon any witness l.ss yet under
gone. Mr. Salaberry la one of the .;overn
ent's Important witnesses. He testi
fied Saturday that ou alleced misrep
resentations hy Tod and Donne well aa
lo patent rights of the company anl
big dlM.len.l it wouli pay. ' Invested
3S0 in slovk and that Ms brother.
John Salaberrr. and hi ar:nr. John
Irigoln. had between them Invested
1 1300 more.
I raaa-Kisatlsalles la Srtfre.
Mr. Mi Henry w as stern and abrupt
In hi methods of questioning. At
tl me his tuminil ion was almost sav.
age. He used a powerful liars vole
lo Its fu:icat ja.lvant.tae, eometimes
boomtrg question after question at
tb witness. Then be would riold hint
up to ridUule, or a!.or him wun
The w:tne. n meek-looking, soft
speaking lltlie man. went through this
ordeal without budging from the main
details of lila original testimony. II
could not be shaken from bis story.
Banker' 4l-e 1'wllwe.ed.
Two admissions that Mr. Mrllenry
evidently conMdered of Importance.
however, were ohtalned from Mm. On
was that he first bought stock on th
advice of en acquaintance named Ar
nett, employed In the bank of which he
was a customer. Th other was that
he stl'l has confidence that the com
machine exhibited to hitn by the sales
men when they solicited hlni to buy
stock was all thai they claimed for It.
Mr. McHenry began to utechii.
Mr. Salabeny as to the number of
shares ot stock, at $10 a share, he bad
first bought from the salesman, Todd.
In which I. Is brother and partner In
vested with Mm. Mr. Salaberry paying
for the block with hi personal check
Flrat Parrssa Iteratled.
"Did you buy 100 shares?" asked Mr.
-I bought JJ1-J share. replied Mr.
-I thought It was 100 .rsresr
"That waa what the thre ot us
"Weli. then, bow many shares did
you buy youraelfT"
"I bought IS 1-1 hares."
"Are oj positive It was ii 1-S
The Government assert that thi
block of stock, which Mr. SaUberry
said was o;d to him on th rejueeenta
tlon that th money waa lo go Into th
factory to Increase the output of com
machines, waa really atock owned hy
one of tbe officials of the company.
Oasrnsls Mast laase.
-Who told you th company owned
the stock T" demanded Mr. McHenry.
-Mr. Todd told me." i
"I'ld you ask him If the company
owned th stock, or did be volunteer
"He volunteered It."
"Mr. Salaberry. are ou married""
suddenly snapped the lawyer.
-No. sir." replied the witness, appar
"Your brother or jour tanner mar
ried?" "No. slr."
"Now, you have testified that Mr.
ponnewell. when be sold you 0 shares
ot stock at a later date for 110 a share,
said It belonged lo a widow.
"What did be really tell you at thai
Ptsrsast for Xvldewe Uealcd.
"He told me I' o stock belonced to a
widow, and that she r-ouldn't keep It.
so he would rx-11 It to me cheaper. "
"Don't you remember. Mr. Salaberry."
demanded Mr. McHenry, "that you said
you wanted to marry a widow?"
"Don't you renirmber that Mr. Bonne
well. when he spoke of a widow, was
speaking about getting a widow for
"No." replied the wnneas. "I dost
remember any such convcrsat.on."
"Have )ou any srerial fondncas f r
"Wh-shttr a.ked the witncsA. with
iwofecc a 1' Cowmr i f