to bear, or learn some thing interest ing, useful, beneficial or instructive. But moat preachers, especially priests, only stuff them with the worthless husks of theology, where capauie lec tures might teach them so many things valuable. Rev. Tincher's article on “Humanism,” the article “Turn on the Light” and Peter Kedford’s two columns on the Fanner’s Churches are all in the line of promoting the bene ficial for this life, und ure excellent, with tids exception. They huve not entirely given up the use of the word God, which implies u supernuturul power back of humun intelligence, und encourages the people to continue, re lying on supernuturul helps, instead of full dependence on the cultivation und use of their own human abilities. They ull think of God as they were taught; u spirit without body, but ca pable of doing everything by miracle; so they think that after duat they too cun also be spirits and know and do things by miracle. So they believe in the Bible God. But faith in prayer and miracles is weakening, except among the ignorant classes, so priest bound they huve no chance to learn the fuels that would set them free, till materialism touches them why there is no God. Then they will see the Bible is a fraud, and priests are deceiving them about purgulory, hell, heaven and forgiveness of sins, etc. Theo they will drop the confessionui and praying and attend the kind of Sunday meet ings that Tincher, Radford und the materialists ure to establish every where. But in addition to lectures, music and social entertainments there must be free discussions every Sunduy also. The more who take purt in these discussions the more will brains develop and knowledge of right and wrong, beneficiul und harmful, moral incentives, health laws and means to overcome evils, und make our life more worth living. Eliza Mowry Bliven. belter characters and give mure hope, virtue, peace and inspiration to du guud in the world thun Christianity. 1 nuw repeal the question, and it will alited by Elisa Mowry Bliven, Brook bo amusing tu see what »he puts forth. lyn, Conn. Next she talks alxiut the vice and crime« of Christians. This is another Rev. Guy Filch I'help'a statement bit of materialistic dishonesty. 1 ad on having sent me a challenge to de* mit thut church members do all kinds bate la ull right so far as it goes, but of mean things; Christ blasted them he seems to have forgotten the fact in his day for their inconsistency. that it wuh agreed we would discuss But when she talks about a Christian our differences through the columns enguging in vice and murder she knows of The Wood River Times. But Mr. one cannot be a Christian und <|o those Phelps failed to put up his aide of the things, und thut is why she feels so argument. I do not expect the myth bitterly ugainst those who do those God to stop the war; if there was a things and yet profess to be Chris God, then* would not have been any tians. war. I um only trying to find out what Then she says sue found not only your pet God is doing for humanity? that ChrisUuns were vice-nudcn, but Where does he hold forth and what thut tnu Uime was full of "baa in he composed of? Our Rev. »Sir can tnings” and tfie GuU of the Biule wus not prove there is a God, and there so “cruel" ana so on. We have heard could be no son Jesus without a father. ull Inal before. But will »urs. Bliven The Bible could not he the inspired please expiuin way so many scores ot word of God when there is no God. minions oi the best educated and the This alao knocks out Mary’s little nest moral people in me world believe story wherein the Holy spook played in the Bible, reud it daily and teach it such u prominent part und Joseph's to other», and are nappier und better mince-pie dream in crooked, What ny it I Did reading tne bible nurt more have we to wrangle about? L>. 1.. bloody ! W as nut Ills Iile fixe a This agent of the great three-in-one luuniain ol walers rushing out to bless ^^ishe.i to know the cause of the war. the world ! Did reuding tiie Biule I would nay Greed, Ignorance, too hurt Jerry McAuley, the river tiuel, much Spirituality and not enough Hu bum und drunkard, ridden with vice munity are the main causes. It in and vermin .' lie wus ail that till he news to me that the materialists ull begun to read the Bible, then he quit believe there is a God. Thal’a the stealing, drinking, impurity, blasphe kind of joke that makes me smile, my, tobacco and gave ins whole iile What would be our object in trying to doing gospel work among the out to persuade others to dush the foolish casts, Uli he wus called the upostie to belief if we were silly enough to be- the drunkard. 1 have his life, and i lieve it ourselves? lind he gave Christ and the Bible all Our opponent makes the statement the credit lor tne relormution he made, that “No one can really believe in his in his mission he kept piles of bread own being without believing in ante to feed the Hungry und clothes for the cedent being-Go<l.” The fuct of our outcuats. W di matenulists please ex Iwing here in flosh, blood and body is plain the life ol Jerry McAuley? proof enough that our forefathers, Don’t dog this case. It is vital to tne •hack to the beginning of man, were contention. 1 challenge them to meet produced the name an wn were We it and expiuin it in harmony with their do not require u Bible or Bible God to contention that Christianity blights tell us we had great great grand par- the ret*«on, etc. Have infidels any enta. Hare is where our “boasted" thing they could take down on the reason plays a part. What is reason Bowery tnat would convert and trans but foundation of all our knowledge of form the drunkards and harlots there ? fuels? Our eyesight is the strongest By Guy Fitch Phelps if they have why don't they go there of our live sense; yet it would deceive und do the work ? They haven't got it, un, if reunon did not come to the <«■»■ in The Silverton Journal of Novem and they know they have not, that is cue. We look at the stars above und ber bth Mrs.Bliven makus reply to one why 1 say their whole contenUon is they look no larger thun the ox eye daisy in the meadow, still reason of my urticies. 1 will notice a few ol just a big bluff. When materialism will teaches us they are us much larger her statements. But let me say here go into the gutter and make a prosti than this earth, as thin earth is larger thut to assert a thing is not urgumenl. tute clean, then 1 will believe it is than u baseball. Reason proves that 1 must g.ve reasons why 1 believe and right. But Christian workers have to the Bible is full of lies from cover to know there is. Let materialists cease get inutenaT'stic drunkards and har cover; and every crime recorded in to assert that there is not a God und lots cleaned up there. Infidels swarm the criminal calendar of today is sanc logically explain the physical universe about saloons und gambling hells. The tioned und upheld by its God. Whnn without Him. 1 notice that every on« fact is, materialism has no moral anyone makes the wild statement that of them takes good care to shun the code: you can be anything and be an In all the bomb throwers, brewery men, real issue, for it is in real issues that fidel. Rand, the eight-times murderer, sold his body for a pound of candy, saloon keepers, cut-throats, thieves, they are week. Her first assumption is that Wash sut down on his bunk and ate the can liars, safe crackers, white slaver» and other wrong doers too numerous to ington and Lincoln were infidels. Buch dy; drove the ministers out of his cell mention are all materialists, 1 pity statements should i><i enough to place and bawled after them that he was a such an ignorance. All such a person ull that the one making them might ‘Bob Ingersoll man,’ and no one dis lacks of being chief of the Ananias say in the column of discredit. 1 have puted him. But if he had said lie was a life of Lincoln, and it records a con a Christian even materialists would • Club, is a few feathers in his hair. As to hateing preachers or anyone versation between Mr. Lincoln and a have pointed the finger of scorn and else 1 can only apeak in my own be very religious Christian woman. Mr, cried, ‘Aha, Look at your Christian!’ half, und can truthfully say I do not Lincoln asked her this question; in fact that is just what Mrs. Bliven belong to that low-brow-type of people ’.’What is being a Christian?” The is trying to do in this article. But to that hate, as I do not hate anyone. woman went into detail and propound be a Christian one must follow and Some of my best friends are preachers ed to him all the essentials of religion: obey the teachings of Christ, and that and their families, and they know I Faith in the Divine Christ, as the Sa makes it impossible to do wrong and and my family ure materialists. But vior of men; belief in the inspiration retain the right to His name. Material of the Bible; repentance and forsak ism has no moral standard (they they are too broud minded to condc. all us wholly bad who ditTer with them ing sin; a personal and infinite God, would have to borrow it from Christi in their religious viewH. Such people etc. When she was through, Mr. Lin anity if they tried to fix one up), “Then therefore you can be anything debased are sincere in their belief. No, Mrs. coln very earnestly replied: Warfield does not need any Bible God, according to that 1 trust I am a Chris and be a good infidel. I do not say all or Bible Dope; 1 h,.d that kind of tian.” The correspondence and say materialists are such, but that there breakfast food three times a day until ings of Mr. Lincoln are open to all. It is nothing in all their teachings that I was twelve years old; then modesty is well known, universally known, that wouid prevent it. WILL MATERIA took the place of curiosity and one he was given to much prayer, and re LISTS PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY cold morning I lit the fire with the peatedly asserted that only God could AND HOW READING THE BIBLE save the nation. What do materialists AND FOLLOWING CHRIST CHANG Holy Book. hope to gain by such unwarranted ED JERRY McGAULY AS THEY be- There is a world of difference tween morality and Christianity. Mr. statements? Washington was a firm DID ? If their contention be true Phelps had as well ask can there be beilever in God and prayed honestly. that Christians cease to reason, and any moral government without His state papers are open »o all. Tom are superstitious and degraded, how Grimm’s Fairy Tales. Religion and Paine believed in God, and defended do they explain the fact that in every morality are two entirely different Deism, and 1 have never seen where slum of every city the Salvation Army things.—Religion is a superstitious de he advocated materialism. Ingersoll and the mission workers are seeing votion to things unknown and beyond was the son of a minister, and said the very lowest characters on earth demonstration, while morality is the when speaking over the body of his transformed and brightened into effi brother, “Hope hears the rustle of a cient and intelligent workers in the science of social conduct. wing. ” I have Ingersoll’s lectures and reformation of their fellows ? How do Certainly matter (or material force) can produce conscience, reason and he never pronounced that there was they explain the transformation of not a Supreme Being and he was Blue Bird of Mulberry Bend? A wom affectionate nature. never an evolutionist. So we see that an so terrible in her life that she was Maud V. Warfield. when examined materialism has little the terror of the police. Found one to stand on. I challenge materialists night in an underground beer hell, a In October 23rd Silverton Journal 1 to show where Washington or Lincoln Christian woman asked her to leave find much to praise and little to criti expressed themselves as disbelievers and let God lift her to a better life. She did so, and was transformed from cize. Richard Tincher's Letter claims in the Bible or God. that Materialism is all negatives and Next she says that when we lie the lowest of drunken, fighting harlots below Unitarianism; yet admits that cold in death we enter into annihila to a clean, sweet-faced woman, with it helped him out of the miraculous tion. But I ask her to prove that. her face full of light and hope. I have and supernatural priestcraft super Materialists demand proof, so let them two pictures of her; one taken when stitions. He sees the ■ ece«sity of that give it. Materialists say that we came she was low and outcast. Her body uplift into scientific knowledge. He to our present physical perfection (ac was covered with knife-scars, and her does not see yet that thiw is only the cording to them man has no more head with spots where the hair had first part of our work, and must be soul than a horse or a tree) through been torn out in fights. Her cheeks done before we can start the second evolutionary processes; that nature are sunken, and a devilish expression part. Probably most materialists and built us up to what we are. Then they is on her face. The other picture was other freethinkers never get any tell us that death comes along and taken a year after she began to read farther. They are glad to be free from wipes nature into the dust, destroying the Bible. She stands with the Bible those superstitions, church follies and all she has done. But I ask them to in her hands, dressed in a nice suit, a fears, and are generally good citizens prove that this same nature which smile on her face, and real beauty in because that makes friends and suc built us—according to them—will not her features. Do infidel materialists cess in business; and they like good build us again? How do they know have anything that will do work like neighbors, health, justice and hap that nature will not reconstruct us? that? If they have let them come piness, so help toward the general wel Nature rebuilds the mould of the wil along with it. That is the kind of fare and morality fully as much as derness Into wild roses and grass; will work Christianity will do; can they match it? I happen to know that these good Christians do. it, may it, not build us again? But most people, especially the I will repeat my question which are things materialists have to meet. PLEASE women on the farms, prize the getting Mrs. Bliven took good care to let WILL MATERIALISTS together on Sundays, having a little alone by going where they all go, to EXPLAIN THEM ? I have, a book on chat with acquaintances, listen to mu the assertion that Tom Paine was a Christian work in Turkey, that sin- sic and hope to hear something that fine fellow. I asked her what material ridden land. In Turkey -woman is will make the burdens of life easier ism had to teach men that would build little but a brute. She goes with her MATERIALIST COLUMN REPLYTO MATERIALISTS • • • fuca covered, and has no »oul. In thia book 1» a picture of a group of gradu ate», young women from me of Chris tian college», und they look exactly like, und are dressed the same as, the name number of girls in one of our American schools. They wear the same kind of hats and cloaks, und look bright ami womanly. The veil is gone, nut unly frum their faces, but from their hearts and minds. And that is what Christianity will do. Can ■ niideis show anything like that? No. Christians do the work and they do the kicking and scoffing. Then she says that good people now are much better thun the teach ings of Jesus. Nuw that is a swift one. 1 wonder whom Mrs. Bliven thinks she is writing to? Don’t she know that reasoning people will reud whut she writes ? After making a statement like that she will talk about the light of reason, and superstition of Christians, etc. 1 think 1 know thoroughly what Christ taught, and it she will show in what particular one cun be better than Christ taught that ne should be 1 will give up the case. Christ taught love, honesty, humility, fairness, virtue, peace, hope, gentle ness, meaxnen», benevolence, kindness, charity, with every other excellence Known. Now will Mrs. Bliven tell us hi what way good folks are getting above these things? You notice that she does not say in what they are bet ter. 1 remember that in a former ar ticle she said that 318 bishops in the tune ol Constantine invented Christ. Next. • • • The next article is by one Gauvin. He makes some amusing admissions. One of the things always, to be ex pected about materialists is that they can’t reason. They will cross them selves every time. This man admits that Christianity is all right, for he begins by saying that “after nineteen centuries of Chris tian teaching the world is engaged tn a terrible war.” That is: Why hasn’t Christianity prevented it ? Weil, Ger many is flooded with materialists: why didn't they prevent it ? If men wouid follow the teachings of the Bible they would not hate each other. For God said in the days of Moses: "Thou shall love thy neighbor as thyself. The same is the teachings of the New Testament. He says that Rationalists know that all the so-called sacred books of the world were written by man. 1 ask him how he knows that? Millions of men and women disagree with him. The scholar, Paul, said that “all Scripture was given by inspiration of God, and that it is profitable for reproof,” etc. This is some more bluffing. Let us have arguments, not bald statements. He says that all the facts of science, logic, history and human experience teach that the universe is eternal. Well, if I believe in an eternal Being called God, is that unreasonable, then? But what does he mean by the uni verse? Nature or the worlds in the heavens? If he means nature then what becomes of evolution? If he means the physical things, what be comes of the teachings of science that worlds are formed by processes ? See how these infidels cross each other. He is right in saying that religion and morality are two different things. Christians make that difference. One can be religious or moral and not be a Christian at all. Please keep that in mind. He says that Christianity re fuses to reason (he means that). I wish this man would take up the study of Butler’s Analogy and see if the Christian is capable of reasoning. I grow sick of these statements. They are so openly and manifestly untrue. Take up the books of the world and see if Christians can reason. Go to the colleges and see if they can reason. Webster, who compounded the diction ary, was a very devout Christian, and conducted family prayer daily. This is the best materialists have to offer. He says hell is the “heartless dream of a fanatic.” It is amusing to see how infidels make war on the doctrine of hell. There is a reason! Christians are not worrying about hell—they are not going there. But farther along he tells us that "Every wrong act brings its consequences.” In that statement he concedes the whole teaching of Christianity on hell. Christians say that sin makes its own punishment; that the same thing that can make a lunatic asylum in the uni verse can make a hell,—and that is sin. As he says, the transgression of law brings its own penalty, and the Bible says, “Sin is the transgression of the law.” He says that the doc trines of Christianity are a source of evil, because they divide the world in to quarreling sects. Yes, Christianity divides between the good and the bad; between the pure and the impure. If infidels want harmony let them become clean and Christian and we will all be one. But I would remind this man that three out of four, yes, more than that, of the people since Christ died for men have been infidels and Christ rejectors: why haven’t they fixed the world up as it should have been long ago? Why blame your failure on Christianity. He says that material ists are trying to banish superstition and fear. But there is no class on earth so full of fear as they. They are haunted with the fear that in their «mu:»-’--’•tnuHtiummmtuutttmmxuuuwmttttmmmmmmmmMmno c onveyanci ng Brokerage Phone Green 991 CASCADE REAL Estate Co. t MR. and MRS. G. H. 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