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t PAGE TWO THE KLAMATH NEW8. KLAMATH FALLS, OREGON September 22. 1983 Playing Managers Take Lead World Series Will Ba Diractad From tha . ' Field by Joa Cronin and Harold Terry. N. Y. Haa Faith in New Manager. Grif fith Chief Adviser to Washington Chief. By A LAX GOULD (Associated Preea Bporta Writer) NEW YORK. Sept. 11. W) For the tint time tinea 190, the American end National lean rlrala tor the "world baseball championship" both will ba directed on the field by player managers. There hare been a number ot player-pilots atnee then, of course, ca one aide of the bat tle ironnd or the other, but William Harold Terry of the Giants and Joseph Cronin of the Senators will be the first pair to combine master-mind lng and personal explolta In the world series since Fielder Jones led the Chicago White Box to triumph orar Frank Chance's Cubs, e e The Senators expect history to repeat itself. Cronin car ries ths Washington banner Into the championship fray where "Bucky" Harris, then the "boy wonder." left oft as the pilot ot the pennant-winning Senators of 1I24-'15, They whipped the world cham pion Yankees. They expect to "take" the Giants. Giant rooters have faith In Terry, as John McQrsw's suc cessor, for the reason that he has already achieved the tup posingly "Impossible" by brlng the club home In front this year after being picked to fin ish no better then sixth. "Mem phis Bill" himself thought at the outset ha would be lucky to land in tha first division, and third place was the best hs hoped for. "But once we got the Idea wa eould win, why. we simply couldn't lose." laughed Terry when I talked with him during tha Giants' triumphant final J tour ot the West. "You can say wa have won because wt built np tha greatest tour-man pitching staff In either league and yon would ba correct. You aan say we got a lot ot breaks, and that's right too. But the big thing to me ts that every Ban on this club got out there, day after day, and played his head oft. We forced a lot of those breaks because we refus ed to be licked." e , Terry and Cronin both are treat hitters. Defensively thej are tha class of their positions, la either big league. They have tha knack of setting the psce ar producing the hits that aonnt tha most. Otherwise they are radically different person alities. As ball players to Terry Is a Veteran, while Cronin la In his prime. Bill will be 95 In Octo ber and Joa la IT the same ' month. Cronin was born In San Francisco, Terry in Atlanta. Terry la in absolute charge at tha Giants on the field. He takes ordsrs from no one when It comes to tactics, choice ot pitchers or shuts In the llnenp. When he replaced McGraw, he determined to be the "boss," so that he could sink or swim on his own responsibility. Hit success has given him clearer right to command than ever. But he doesn't do mnch master minding, except in the pinches. He assumes his playera know the right thing to do nnder or dinary circumstances, until it is proved otherwise. He makes quick decisions when necessary. Cronin, softer-spoken and less dynsmlo than his rival, has acquired a thorough know ledge ot baseball and shown he can apply It. However, the Sen ators' field boss has behind him the advice and counsel of one of the game's shrewdest strate gists, Clark Griffith. The pres ident of the Washington club was a famous manager and pitcher In his dsy. He Is still the "Old Fox" and the man be hind the Senatorial guns. If there Is any heavy thinking or weighty decisions to be made, "Griff" makes them. Vines Eliminated In L. A. Tourney LOS ANGELES, Sept. 21. U.R) Jack Tidball, rangy Los An geles college student, eliminated Ellsworth Vines of tht American Davis Cup team In a quarter finals match of the Pacific southwest tennis tournament. Vines easily won the first set, (-1, and seemed on ths way to victory when Tidball steadied himself to come from behind and win the next two sets and match, 8-4, 7-6. The former national cham pion afterward reiterated his an nouncement that he will take a long rest before resuming tour nament play. WlghtS Tonicht LEGION ARENA Phone for Ticket Reservations THE SMOKE Ph. ITS WAGGONER'S DRUG Pb. THE WALDORF Pb. (MA Boats Start 9 P. M. BOXING LEAGUE FLAG Joe Cronin's Boys Beat St Louis Browns, 2 to 1 I'nltm Trees Staff Correspondent WASHINGTON. Bent. II (U.R) a ball game and tht American league pennant tp" ana nenew- New York Giants, coma October. in tna world series, me senators defeated tht St. Louts Browns I to 1 In a rJ-r ' elr devoted Inisctnt of something Just be- to oasenan rn occ-ionany sa tween "auntie over" snd prison ers bsse. The victory msde It mathematically Immw-Jble for he Senators to lose the penngnt. The same was calm until the seventh Inning. Fireworks Start H.-hult. and Kuhel had 'axled off Padley In ' " id. -Ue scores on Boktn't long fly to D.nM. It. Inf. fl-M That WtlR the only score nntil the seventh. In the St. Louis halt ot the sev enth. Campbell walk ' and - -V., Ualllln Hn hUrt Gulllc hit to Cronin who threw out Melillo at third, soea sin gled Gulllc to second but Levey hit Into a double pity retiring tne sire. Schulte opened Washington's eventh with a flv to Sammy West In deep center. Knkel sin gled and Boken walked, sewen mo.hMt riauhla to rlsht cen ter and tort around first with long legged Eon gotten one is? In front headed for th. 1. RnV.ii t head down bast runnar after the manner of a fullback performing diiwiii third, looked np tnd rtcognised nis colleague nuaei iwumus there, instetd of btlng on his way iron, tht plttt to tht dug coi as Boken evidently assumed ht would be. All Tangled Up With a man on second and two men on third the Washing ton club dlde tht best it could tki l..ntnlt.niH. WMcB was to run In all directions. Th. bsll by that time naa oeen re trieved to tht Infield and was In the possession of one Shea, tht Brown's catcher. Boken started back for sec- -... 0all ah.nilnn. SACOnd for first and Shea whipped the hall to Meiiuo, Brown secuuu I n UMnwllfl. IfnhMl. gentleman In or out of the ball yard, decided to lei boku na it km wanteri It and Start ed home. Melillo whipped back to Rhea and Kuhel slid nnder the catcher's glove, safe with what turned out to b tne winning run. Boken was sate at third and Sewell at second. It wss at simple as that, but left tne tans wondering whether tha Senators - , Hi.. ., .-.nHmnth-r run umv ------ mA n--1 -l or vm c-n nT wheth er the Browns had failed In a cunning attempt to gei me tru stors on one base for one of those unassisted triple plays. Tha decision flnslly was In favor of your grandmother and .... ... tnr fltawirt. the IU0 tiBi.;ui aw. " " - - next hitter, sent a bounder to Levey at shortstop. Boaen was DDI IU u ! i 'I . . ' - lng a colleague and he surveyed home plate so carerniiy to ma sure that It was unoccupied, be fore finally deciding to come In. that ht was csught between home and third and tatged out. . i n third and Stewart got to " second on that play. Then Myer wat cauea out on strikes. Manager Joe Cronin ,i Ai.aiiit uts Blnace from his pre world's series rest to replsct Boxen, lest ne again get on bsse. Hsdley snd Knott pitched for St. Louis, allowing six bits to seven by the Browns off Stewart Tight Washington defensive play won the ball game; MTHFR HAPPY SAN FRANCIS! sent. 51 Mrs. M. J. Cronin, mother of Joe Cronin. yotithf-i mmtr of ths Washington Senators, was overjoyed today v.l--i ho ! 1 her ton's tesm will play In tht world series. "I Just cried when 1 heard," the ssld. "He has been such a good boy to ns. I have been praying his team would win. It was such a responsibility for Joe, being so young, snd this bis first year as manager." YOfNO SHARKEY WINS. CHICAGO. Sept. 11. (U.R) Young Jack Sharkey, Minneap olis featherweight, won a 10 round decision from Young Geno, La Salle, III. Sharkey weighed 121, Geno 12H SENATORS WIN Sporting- BASEBALL STRONG W. S. C. TEAM SHAPES; COUGARS THREAT TO TROJANS PULLMAN, Wash.. Sept. 11. (AP) Washlngtoa State's Cou gars ara out to win tha Paoifio coast conference football cham pionship, and nobody, from nn.Ak n B? nh. tlnttln- bery down to Bobby, tha mascot. is mssicg any ooaes aooui it. With 11 Itttermen on hand, thai 10.-2S nuait . nnaira to b tht ttrongest and classiest look ing outfit Hollingbtry nas naa In his seven years at Washing ton State. The faithful havt little doubt but that tht Cougars will finish at least In tht first division, and many of them are predicting tht championship will return to Pullman after an ab sence of two years. Fresh turn were inoeatea Sixteen lettermen from last year's powerful squad reported for tht first practice, along with nearly every member of tht un defeated 1811 freshman team and three veterans ot formsr sea sons. Tht lint - promises to be mighty, with lettermen In every position except the two guards, where regular reserves will be posted. The forwsrd wall will be built around Frank Ingram, a six-foot-two. 100-pound tackle, who missed only three minutes of play In Washington State's six major contesta last year. The giant George Theodoratos, who alternated at full last year Chicago Teams Start Series On October 4 CHICAGO. Sept, 11. (U.R) The city series hetwsen tht Whltt Sox and Cuba will open at Wrlgley Field, home ot tbe Cubt, on Wednesday. October 4, It was decided today at a meet ing of officials ot ths two teams at tht office ot Commitslonsr K. M. Landls. The second gsme, October I, also will bt plsysd at Wrlgley Field. The next two. and a third, if necesssry, will bt played at Comiakey Park, home ot tht Whltt Sox, Octobtr 8, 7 and I. Giants Welcomed Back to New York NEW" YORK, 8epf, 11, (AP) Having survived ont riotous wtlcome, tht New York Giants wsre scheduled for another to day befora playing their tint garni as 193! National league champlont against tht Brooklyn Dodgers. When their tpecltl train pull ed in last night from Bt. Louis, tht Gianta found a crowd of tomt 10.000 excited ftnt waiting for them: two bandt wtra toot ing away at hard as they could and Managtr Bill Terry and hit men had a hard time escaping undamaged at police lines wtrt twtpt aside In a mad rush to greet the team. This morning tha Giants were to gather at tha polo grounds and parada through town to tht city hall to receive an official welcome from Mayor John O'Brien. Reed Captures Portland Bout PORTLAND, flept, 11. (AP) After losing tht tint fall, Robin Reed of Reedsport came back to takt tht next two and win the main tvtnt of last night's wrestling card hert from Noel Franklin of Pocatello. Idsho. Reed weighed 147 and Franklin, 141. Franklin applied a bead lock and an arm bar to take the first tall in 15 minutes. Reed evened tht match In t minutes with a reverse arm scissors and 25 minutes later put over the winning fall, with a body press. Herb Bergeson, 14t, Portland, won the seml-wlndup from Toughy Davis, 148, Portland, getting one (all. t LI II c ucnuinc LEVI'S BE SURE YOU CETIT m mmmmmm rasa BE SURE YOU GET Sen Francisco LEVI STRAUSS CO tot Awaelci TENNIS will be given a permanent as sfgnmsnt at tackle. Theodoratos reported this fall In perfect trim, weighing more than 140 pounds, ltarkfleld Strong The bsckfield likewise Is pow erful and experienced. Stan Col burn, a 100-pound halfback and ball-toting powerhouse is the key man behind tht forward wall. Pbll Sarboe. a alight but mighty triple thretter. will be regular qusrtor. Henry Ben delt Is back at full, and OUit Arbtlbldt for tha other half. Outstanding among last year's trosh It Ttd Chrittofterten, the big blond Norwegian haltbick from Honolulu who was a ten saon as a rookie. He will understudy Colburn and Arbelblde. Well grounded In fundamentals and primary plays as a result of a long spring practice, the Cou gars were set to work immediate ly on formations and signal drill this fall. They are sighting their guns on tht game with 8outbern California at Los Angeles Octob er 7. The Trojans, 1931 cham pions, handed Washington State Its only defeat last year, and art looked npon at tht biggest threat In tht championship drlvt thlt year. Seven conference games ara on tht schedule. Including ont with Orcfon Statt at Corvalllt, Oct. 18. Stars Slumping In Battle To Overtake L. A. By Tba Associated Press Hollywood pennant hopes are fading rapidly befora tha slants and fast balls of tht Los An geles pitching torct. Tht Start trailed tht Coast league leaden by tlx full garnet with only six more remaining to bt played this week and seven next befora tht season's close. Fay Thomas, one-tlmt TJulvtr sity ot Southern California ath lete, did the Job Wednesday night, limiting tha movitland boyt to 1 dividtd hltt aa Lot Angtles won 6-3. He struck out 11 Stars during the evening. Tht terapb home run king, Gtnt Lillard. hit hit 43rd ot tht lea son In driving Dick Scbulta to tht showers In tht eighth. Jim Oglesby, Angel first s.-cker, also hit tor tht circuit in that frame. Back in April Curt Davit, ace of the 1932 San Francisco hurl ing itaff, dropped bis first tlx games. Tht bleacher coaches admitted Davis waa through. Wednesday Curt stopped tht Mis sions 5-1 .for his 10th victory this year. He demonstrated he had "come back" by scattering the 1 Red blows through I In nings. To top oft the day's work Davis clouted a four-bagger after hitting a double earl ier in the game. Rain forced poatponsment ot tbe Sacramento-Portland and Oakland-Seattle clashes. Little Change In Altamont Faculty ALTAMONT The ptnonntl of tht teaching Itaff of the Alta mont school has changed very lit tle from last year. Most of tht former teachers again received contracts this year, but a tew of them accepted positions else where and were replaced by new onea. Mr. Olson again accepted the princlpalshlp; Mrs. Harriet Jones haa tht tlghth grade: Mrs. Blslt Leming, seventh and eighth; Mrs. Maude Nelson, seventh: Carol Howe, sixth; Miss Bernlca Phelps, fifth; Mrs. Ruth Obenrhsln. fifth and sixth; Mrs. Stella Bownt, fourth; Mrs. Msrjorlt Howt, third; Mis Dorothy Baillt, second; Miss Oraca Lytic, second and third; Mrs. Imogene Nye. first; Mrs. Alice Tomlin, first. Miss Ethel Ftowlck It tht music and physical education instructor. 4-H Club Fair, 11-24. II i- 1HL "LEVI'S" Waist Overalls haye worn so well for so many years that others have tried to cash in on their reputa tion. But there's only one genuine "LEVI'S." Insist on the genuine article and get your money's worth in com fort, fit, and service. You'll find the same ragged quality and excellent value in Levi Strauss BIB OVERALLS and BOYS' OVERALLS. COLF y TO MEET WEED Les Avrit'8 Team Has Perfect Record Over California!, e. Tha ntw Klamath Pelicans, light and fast, but uncertain In .strength with Inexperienced play ers, completed their major prac tice Thursday afternoon In prep aration for tht opening gamt ot tht tttson agulnst Weed on Mo doe field Saturday afternoon. Les Avrlt, head coach In his third season at tht high tchool, has scorsd two victories over the Northern California school. He considered this, howtvtr, no def inite promise another wtt assured Saturday. Tht Ptltcant will tnttr tht game ttrong favorites, but Wttd. while tht Pelicans hart lost lomt of their outstanding players from Isst season, haa Improved Its lineup. Norman Tabor, fullback from last leason; Eugene Barrows. Wayns Perry and Bob Leslie may be the starting hackftetd combi nation. V Bill Horn and Lynn Propst ap pear as likely starters at ends; Nelo Glovanlnl and Bob Napier, tackles; Johhny Fastest and Homer Maxwell, guards, and Francis Hess, center. CORVALLIS, Ore- Sept. 11, (U.R) Starting lineup tor Oregon Statt college in Hi gamt with Soutbtrn Ortgon Normal tchool Saturday afternoon probably will bt: Woody Jotlln and Vic Cur tin, ends; Schwammtl and Field, tackles; McClurg and Thorns check, guards; Dtvlnt, center; Psngle, autrtir; Blsmvant and Bowman, halves, and Hal Joslin. full. Another lineup will play Willamette university la tht lec ond gamt of tht atttrnoon doa-ble-hetder immediately after. PCLLMAN, Wash.. Stpt. 11. (U.R) Ueorgt Theodoratos, hugs Washington State college tackle from Sacramento, waa nursing a broken nose, tustalnsd In scrlra magt. It will not ktep him out ot games thlt rear, howtver, phy sicians belltvt. SPOKANE, Wish., Stpt. 11, (U.R) Injuries poked unwelcome hetdt Into Ooniaga'i training sea son, that was Intensified for tht opener against Washington at Se attle Saturday. Ed Culltn. prom ising California halfback, dislo cated his shoulder and probably won't play. Bob Htllingtr, act tacklt, strained hit back, and Jim Van Slstlnt. first string and. bad flrt stitches taken to close a wound In bis right band. Both were expected to opes against tht Huskies, howtvtr. SEATTLE, Sept. 11. (U.R Matt Muciynskl may not atart against Qonsaga. due to a thoul der Injury, but Coich Jlmmlt Phtltn probably will give the big triple-threat back a short work out to prime him for tht Oregon gamt. Ttd Isaacson, ! 5-pound KLAMATH READ Finger marks... pencil marks and cray ons. ..left by careless childish handsr.. are quickly and easily removed when your walls are finished with PABCO Improved Interior Finish. For here is a finish you can wash time and time again... year in and year outl For mil interior wall snd woodwork finishing intiit ujttn mm I'Hi j'u ' Ml Wat j i v n rJ .l il iM Ik : HI" 1 ISI I " H .IWJ I atVPklrl af 'Jew I News RACING tacklt, relegated to tha tecond ttrlngi ts fighting ttrenuonsly In scrlmmijt for hit varsity Job la tht opening lineup. tIKRKKLKY. Calif., Sept. 11. (U.PJLIttle Jot Vtrduccl It btlng worktd at tint string Quarter back, with Arltlgh Williams tud Utorgt Hellet as halfbacks and Jim Kttter at full, at Nary Bill Ingram prepares the Btan tor tht opining football gamt atalnit Santa Clara Saturday, Ktn Moslltr. ranking halfback last year, nursed in Injured leg and watched scrimmage from tht sidelines. LOS ANGELES, Sept. 11, (U.R) Experimenting In tht Trojan back field. Coach Howard Jones moved BUI Howard from fourth siring quarterback to third trlng, ropliclng Car Mathtwi. Tht quarterbacks now are rated at follows: Homer UrKflth, Irv ing Warburton, Howard and Mathewa. A charleyhorsi kept Uordon Clsrk, first string half back, on the sldellnea while his teammates drilled on blocking and tackling. PALO ALTO, Calif., Sept. 11. (U.R) A lineup composed mostly ot veterins will oppose San Jose Stata when Stinford opens Its football season Saturday. . BUI Sim la working at quarter back, Bob Maenti and Kea Aftler baugh at halfbacks, and Jack llllliuan at full. MORAGA, Calif.. Sept. 11, (U.R) Last year's veterans were on tht first string when Slip Msdl gsn divided his gridiron hopefuls Into stvan teams and ttirted drill for tht opining gums agalmt U, S. F. on October 1. LOS ANGELES. Sept. 11, (U.R) Tha Brulnt continued their scrimmages, with Charlet Chos hlrt, lophomort halfback, tcorlng two out ot seven touchdown! against tht reserves. Mlki Frank ovlch thowtd ht hid lost nont of hit kicking ability when ht con verted itvtn tuccesslvt timet. Bruce Broadwell, tacklt candi date, tore a ligament, md will be out thrtt weeks. STANDINGS (By ths Associated Press) rtlAST l.tAUlK. W. L. Pet. Los Angelet 107 s .11 Hollywood 101 74 ,S74 Portland 98 73 .(71 Sarrnminto (4 7 .147 Oakland - It 10 .its San Francisco 79 It .431 Missions 71 101 .417 Seattle 110 .167 NATIONAL LKAQIE. W. L. New York is 64 Plttiburgh (3 85 Chicago ... 81 7 St. LOUlS MHHH - 71 tl Boston 7 8 Brooklyn .... til 1)4 Philadelphia 69 t5 Cincinnati ............ 67 10 AMF.llRAN I. K ACHE. W. L. Washington . It 4 Ntw York 87 St Philadelphia 76 7 Cleveland 74 71 Detroit It 7 Chicago ! 81 Boston tl 14 St. Loult ........ II 10 Pet. .611 .691 .660 .697 ill .41.1 .317 .IS I Pet. .991 .811 .tit .607 .491 .434 .411 .171 9 FISHING TREE TROOPERS FIGHT FRIDAY Youtha From CCC Camps Clash in Legion Hall Bouts Young men hirdiuitd by itg month! of work and training la the woodt completed tralnlni In their respective civilian conserva tion corps camps Thursday and were resdy to trek to Klamath Kails for their pngtllstlo tourns ment. The huge amateur event will takt place at - tha Legion hall Friday night Tht tight thrtt-round bouts will bring togither men parti cttlarly from the middle wttt. But on the card will bt two mtn from Orojron to uphold tht athletic prestige ot tha Pacific coast. These boys, Young Btevtnson, feather weight from Medford. tnd Slugger Smith ot Eugrne and tht Unlrtrslty of Oregon, will bt among tha chief contend ers for chsmplonshlps In thtlr respective division. Smith will tight at 160 pounds. The Med ford man will meet Battling Dun lap of Illinois and Smith will clash with Tiger Bowman of Illinois. The tret troop. rt btvt been in training all summer nndtr tht direction of Lt. Oleun J. McGowan, athletic officer at tht I.skt o' tht Woodt camp. All tht youlhs. If they hid no pre vious ring experience, were con ditioned In camp contests. Tba boult will be presented under tht luiplc.s of Hack Lil lard, promoter, and tht Klamath Kails boilng commission. The 0. 0. 0. bind from Lakt o' the Woodt and Jack DtPatqualt, tree trooper mutlclin, will play between bouts. Baseball Title Series Deadlocked BUFFALO. N. Y Sept. 11. (U.R) Tht Buffalo Bisons crush ed Rochester, 18 to 4, deadlock ing thtlr International league final playoff series at two gsmtt ach. umitk.u aiikiveb. NEW YORK, Stpt. 11, (U.R Don McCorklndalt, South Afri can heavyweight champion, ar rived aboard tht Aqultinla for a fight October I at Madison Squirt Oirden with Patsy Per ron! of Cleveland, 4-H Club Filr, It-it. 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Had ha any ntw trlckt to pring la tddltlon to tht aumtr out old onet 7 "Will I hopt I ha-t a new ont, at least I better have," Wolft said. "There ara only uine Itttermen on m? tuuid and I .-understand Stung hit 17. My team. Ji light nil my reserves gresa.' ' They'll mike soma mis takes, hut they'll play hard, f alert football." Tht gsms will introduct Cotch Stisg't footbsll on tht Pacifio coati.-' - For tha ttsrtlni lineup Wolfa aimed Johnson and Benjamin audi, Allen and Murpby tackles, Cany and Artns guards, New guard center, Mthan quarter, Edwarda and Graham halfbacks, tnd Don Ooodt fulibick. Ora- l ham will ba tht blocking halt- back. Ruth Will Pitch For Yankee Club NEW YORK. Sept. 11. (API babe lluth. who changed over from a pitcher to an outtltldtr soma years ago whtn hit legi wera niort limber and bit bat more effective, li going back to pitching again but Just far one day. Tbt Biht has asktd and received permission from Mtn ag.r Jot McCarthy to pitch tht Ytnk.es tinsl gamt of tht sea ion agilnst tht Boston Red Soi. Ht says ht will ba la thtra tht full nlnt innlngt, Stapleton Wine Football Battle NEW YORK, Sept. 11. OJ.ft) r Tbe Stipleton Stapes last night f defeated the Peterson Olinti, 10 to 0, In a professional footbsll game at Thompson stadium, Slaten Island. Nearly 6000 tint attended. Tbt longest flight rtporttd tor a banded bird wat made by a fledgling Arctic tern, which flew from Turnivlk Bty, Labra dor, to Margate, Natal, In South Africa. WE STYLE-WISE HATS and Stop Alibiing r