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MONDAY, lUDFOIUlUS&wTlUUNI "Everyone in Southern Oregon Readi The MU Tribune71 Published Daily except Saturday by 83 North Fir St.. Ph. 77a-6141 ROBERT W BUHL. Editor HERB GREY Advertising Manjt GERALD T LATHAM. Bus Mir ERIC W ALLEN JR., Mna Editor EARL H ADAMS, City Editor RICHARD JEWETT, Sports Editor OLIVE STAHCHEH WOmen'l CO 1 101 DALE ERICKSON. Circulation Mgr An Indanendent NewiDBDei Entered ai second class matter at Med lord, Oregon unaer aci ox March 3, 1897 SUBSCRIPTION RATES Rv Mai) In Advanca Daily and Sunday 1 year $11.00 Daily and Sunday 6 mos 10 00 Dailv and Sunday 3 moi. SOU Sunday Only One year 5 00 Single Copy (Mailed) 30o By Carrier And Motor Route, Daily and Sunday 1 year $21.00 Tally and Sunday 1 mo. 1-79 Sunday Only 1 mo. 50o Carriei and Vendors Copy 10c Official Paper of City of Hertford Official Paper of Jackson County United-PresTlnternational Pull Leased Wire U. P 1. Telephoto Newspicturea 'member OF AUDIT BUREAU" OF CmCULATT: Advertising R-presentau. NELSON ROBERTS & ASSOCI ATES Of'ices In New York, Chi cago. Detroit, Snn Francisco, Los AnRpfes, Seattle, Portland. Denver. 0T NEWSMPIt FimiSHEIt! ASSOCIATION NATION A I (OITOIIAl cj$M! ffiffi Member California Nawspapar PubUihen AsaociaUon Flight o' Time Medford and Jackson County History from the flics of Tha Mall Tribune 10, 20, 30, 40 and 50 yean ago. 10 YEARS AGO Sept. 30, 1953 (Wednesday) Cross-cxaminalion of Califor nia Oregon Power company Vice President Harlan P. Bosworth Jr. of Medford held the attention of this morning's utility rate hearing, with emphasis on the difference between the residen tial and commercial rates. The 15th polio case in Jackson county this year was reported yesterday to the county health department. 20 YEARS AGO Sept. 30, 1943 (Thursday) John Day buys 2,300 acre ranch in Tolo area. From Arthur Perry's "Ye Smudge Pot" column: "The he eira of mighty nimrods to the high hills for the opening shots at the deer and whatever else moves in the tall timber is now under way." 30 YEARS AGO Sept. 30. 1933 (Saturday) Large bear killed In Williams Creek district while trying to steal pig. Marc Jarmin to open new drugstore on North Central ave. JO YEARS AGO Sept. 30, 1023 (Sunday) Firo at Ed Hanley ranch at Jacksonville, caused by explo sion, does $5,000 damage. Farmers along Bear creek warn bird hunters not to tres pass. 50 YEARS AGO Sept. 30, 1913 (Tuesday) Federal experts to study pear industry in valley. Four big reels of photoplays scheduled at Star theater; ad mision 10 cents. What's Your I.Q.? Nina or tan correct Is superior; seven or eight Is excellent; five or six is good. 1. Where are the remains of the late Gen. John J. Pershing buried? 2. Manxmen are natives of what island? 3. U. S. 10 cent pieces are sold silver; true or false? 4. "Gat" is an underworld term for what weapon? 5. Is the capital of Egypt at Cairo, or Alexandria? 6. Does a major general rank above, or below, a lieutenant general? 7. Name Uie tallest animal. 8. Other things being equal, Is It ea.sicr to lift a weight with a small, or a large pulley? 9. What Is Uie name of the Island in Hawaii on which the state capitol is located? 10. There are four states which are known as common wealths; name them. Answers: 1. Arlington Nation al Cemetery, i. The hie of Man. 3. False (90 per cent), 4. Gun. I. Cairo. I. Below 7. Giraffe. t. Large. 9. Oahu. 10. Kentucky. Massachusetts, Pennsylva n I a, Virginia; SEPTEMBER 30, 1963 The Business Ethic The "business ethic" to which our leaders of commerce often refer in exalted terns some times seems as phony as a department store San ta Ciaus. Frequently equated with the "Christian ethic," the business code of morality in the United States has, granted, progressed considerably from the days of the Robber Barons. But such changes, more often than not, were the result of federal legislation, rather than from any internal desire of business to clean up its own house. All in the last few years, cases of anti - trust suits and arrests for price-fixing only serve to re mind us that practice has not yet completely lived up to principles. A MEDFORD businessman recently advertised wirlolv in rho mprlin that, hp had "Inst, his lease" and was, hence, greatly reduced prices. It all sounded pretty legitimate. After all, if a store has lost its lease and has either to move to a new location or go out of business, chances are good that some real bargains might be available. . We have no way of particular businessman prices, or whether he had buying public. But we do know, on in point of fact this particular merchant is not go inir out of business, is not losing his lease, is not changing the operations ly. It's all legal (this has been investigated) of course, and on a technicality, the merchant can claim to be doing what he says. AS WE understand it, the businessman in ques tion has been the sole owner of the store, which he recently decided to "sell" to a corpora tion, retaining one-third interest. His lease, at that point, is, technically, "lost," and becomes the property of the corporation. Virtually the same goods will be sold at that same location in the future. In effect, then, he lost his lease, but didn't lose his lease ; he is going out of business, but he isn't going out of business ; he is changing his op eration, but he isn't changing his operation. We submit, in view of the facts, that his ad vertising is grossly unethical, and was designed no matter how he wants to split it to mislead the public. He has indirectly cast a shadow of doubt and mistrust on reputable Medford businesses that do hold legitimate sales. This is not the way to in still public confidence and patronage in the downtown area. G.H.B. Wheat Trade The failure of the Russian wheat crop this year has given rise to a fascinating situation, which again seems to involve in a different sense the business ethic. Canadian businessmen, quick to sense an op portunity to turn a fast profit, negotiated a deal with the Soviets for the sale of about $500 mil lion worth of Canadian wheat. Speculators in this bling to see if they can climb aboard the gravy-train. And so the rest of the the world, is being treated to the interesting spec tacle of seeing the midwest wheat farmer, long the bastion of violent anti-Communist and iso lationist sentiment, suddenly in the position of doing business with the Reds. WE REGARD the proposed sale of wheat to the Russians as a good thing, one which can have only the best ot consequences. First and foremost, fed. The Communist bosses, the real cause of our problems with the Russians, and not the people, certainly are not going there is a food shortage. But the common Russian people will, and it is with them that a transaction of this sort, if properly publicized, might will. What belter way of demonstrating that cap italism works and works abundantly than by selling our SURPLUS wheat to them? And, of course, no one is going to object strongly if some people in this country make a nice profit, particularly if the money gets spread around a bit. DUT THE funny part of from watching the wheat belters and the go-between speculators j squirm around in an attempt to justify the trans- action. j One South Dakota wheat farmer was quoted tKo t rl., !,.,., .,lt nA ",lUH U 1 " ". '"K arently the Russians have to put aside our hostilities and help those who are less well off. What a supreme Statement of generosity and ; goodwill. One might be tempted to admire it, ex-i cept for the clear and unmistakable false note, Would that same wonders, be so magnanimous and eager to trade . ',u if .i. . i:... ! Willi Uie VAiuiiuuiiiM.s u such as cotton which a profit on, were involved? G.H.B. Now that summer is finally here, it is instruc tive to remember that there are 71 shopping days until Christmas. K.A. , forced to sell his stock at knowing whether this actually reduced his much response from the reliable autnonty, tnat of his store substantial Ethic country are now scram nation, and the rest of hungry people will be to suffer substantially if create enormous good the whole thing comes jy staunch conservative! " ciavc rJlc'"'.T ' M' . are short. Sometimes we j farmer, one inevitably Kiiiiit' inner ClilIlllllHtliy he didn't stand to makeicision during these two weeks "You Mean Help One Communications Letters to the Editor must bear the name and address of the writer, although under certain circumstances the use of a pen name or initial for publication Is permissible. The Mail Tribune reserves the right to edit all letters with a view to clarification and condensation. Letters submitted for publication must not exceed 400 words. The letters printed In this column do not necessarily represent the views of tfa) paper, in fact the contrary is often the case. Study Ourselves speakers. Then one day they To the Editor: I noted with considerable interest a letter in Sept. 20's paper. Someone has taken you to task for giving the wrong title to a man. This reminds me of a little 10-year-old girl down at Or land, Calif. She was walking by a certain church. The pastor was out in front. "Hello Mister Boland," she cheerfully said. The clergyman quickly replied, When you address me you are to call me, father." The little miss quickly replied. "My Bi ble says that I should call no man father." Now I do not write these lines to cast disprcspect on any one. The little girl mentioned told me this story herself. She is not a member of the church 1 attend, but I believe her to be a Christian. The question comes, who was right, the little lass or the cler gyman? For our answer we should go to God's Holy book, the Bible. 1 have a Cruden's Concordance and really found it interesting to look under some of Ihe references under the word "father." Frankly I would also appreci ate some comment from some of your readers. I'm a busy man. As close as I can estimate from the concordance there must be over 2.0(10 texts in the Holy Bi ble which mention the word "father." 1 am interested in the text or texts giving use the author ization to address our pastor's as "father." 1 know that this is a widespread practice. Yet we need a Bible answer. I'm not interested in some vague re plies. Our answers to questions of a spiritual nature should be based on God's word as record ed for us in His Holy Bible. Many even of you readers do not argue with this statement. However the writer of these lines has explicit confidence in God's Holy Book. All, including infidels, agnos tics, atheists, heathens and Christians face the fact that someday they will die. Our cem eteries attest to this fact. The writer knows of only one mes sage of hope that points to a life and a hope beyond the grave. Thai message comes to us direct from God through His Son. II is recorded for us in the Holy Bible. We must study for ourselves. Man's ideas and traditions should never replace God's word. Preconceived ideas mnv not Harmonize, we must study to show ourselves proved unto God." Henry Johnson, ,lr. 2315 Highway fit;, Ashland. Ore Campus Letter To the Editor: I received this letter a short lime ago from my daughter who was attending summer school at Berkeley. I thought it interesting enough for our Communications section. Mrs. G. S. Jennings 211) Sacinaw dr. Medford GoinR onlo mpi , Berkeley really shocked me 1 had heard it was a "hot spot" for liberals, but did not realize the extent of it until I saw it with my own eyes. Every single day that I was there, they had either signs up, or were handing out literature, or had beatnik speakers expounding their ideas, ''; doni jre Tw 3v ationr. for I As 1 said shocked'!! If I hadn't already decided to 'vcr'hin in m.y fmht socialism, lm sure li WnH have arrived at that de-! Let me give vou examples. For several days they had huge posters advertising the Summer School of Socialism where the theory of Marxism would be ex - plained. Listed on the posters were the meeting placet time, MEDFORD MAIL TRIBUNE, MEDFORD, Americans Twice in Year?" nad a booth up and were hand' ing out literature and taking contributions for a civil rights march. Another day they had their booth set up and were handing out information en couraging disarmament . . . who to write to in Congress to encourage them to support the bill for more money for the dis armament agency. They even had postcards and stamps for people wanling to write right away. Then one noon a beatnik got a large crowd around him as he made fun of America. Every one was laughing at him, etc., but got quiet and more serious when he said, "Patriotism, that's a farce, a joke"! I'm sure this went on the rest of the noon hour, but it almost made me sick to listen to him, so I left. Then yesterday there were large posters telling about the meeting place for the Commit tee to Uphold the Right to Travel (the committee support ing tne students that went to Cuba against the State Depart ment's orders not to.) A scarey thing about this all is that it is so well organized. The posters were up and down on time (no poster up for a meeting that had already been held, etc.) and every day some thing different. And there was nothing conservative to counter act all this propaganda. I'm really afraid that with this going on every day around them, that the students will start getting used to this stuff and will start accepting it. Nancy Pittman 50 Seward ave. San Francisco, Calif. Park "Grab" To the Editor: We welcome a visit of our President to Ore gon, and extend warm wishes to the whole family to romp and enjoy the entire 100 miles of Oregon beaches, so highly de veloped to recreation, by t h e Forest Service, state, counties and other cooperant agencies, averaging a modern tourist fa cility every eight miles. I am positive after actually seeing and knowing the true facts he would brand, as did ex-Congressman Durno. a National Park grab to he ridiculous. In a mad world of today, North American inhabitants are facing instant death and destruction by foreign countries, and are fac ing internal racial war, caused by fermentation of dregs from the Civil War of lMil to 1868. in ap. i which nearly 4 million men per j ished. How many are doomed in the coming fracas? j It appears the present internal fomentation was stirred by the ' Kennedy administration. Is it logical and sound for a Presi dent to be flitting about in the air i park hunting), to cause more strife and loss of popular ity to himself and the Demo crat party, joining a naive ideal istic group on a plane ride down the Oregon Coast, lo select by a seagull's eye view a vast land grab for the power zealot, Sec. I'dall of Department o( Interior, under the guise of National Park ism sponsored by a lady Senator simply to satisfy her own selfish ego? The lady is well aware that three Senate and one Congres sional committee hearings and thousands of resolutions and let ters to Legislators proved over j "'"'"R "PI''' to National Parkism in Oregon. Ex-Con gressman Porter scuttled his po litical career. Why allow the President to scuttle his popular ity and the party in such ridic ulous frivolous affairs that the citizens of Oregon do not want? Our President has more than , he is qualified to handle now. ! A Russian black bear tail in one ; nana, a racial niacK near tan ; in the other, the fate of our 1 nation on his shoulders, yet a , naive Senator would dump in his (ace thousands of w'ild,Ore- OREGON Foreiqn News: British Elections By Next Spring; Labor Confident of Win ' T, , i n: vtinictae UarnM Mar. hiprarchv and are in a nnsitinn By PHIL NEWSOM UPI Foreign News Analyst Notes from the Foreign News Cables: No Boat-Rocking The British Labor party is confident it already has won the next election and now doesn't want to rock the boat. Therefore, its annual confer ference this week at Scar borough is ex pected to be devoid of fire works unless party maver S""0I icks decide to press for clear-cut statements Strictly Personal By Sydney (c Field Enterprises inc. OPPOSITES COMBINED The distinguishing mark of a good mind, it seems to me, is the ability to hold two conflict ing ideas at the same time, and to be dominat ed by neither. This is- ex tremely hard to do. Con sider the two proposi tions: "Every body is differ e n t" and Harris "Everybody is pretty much the same." I be lieve that both these statements are true, and that a realistic view of life consists in holding them in balance at all times. If we are dominated only by the first proposition, "Everybody is different," we become the most arrant kind of individualist. If we overstress the uniqueness of the individual, we ignore the fact that man's nature is basic ally social. The consequences of such a view are usually despot ism, oligarchy, or fascism. If we are dominated liy the second proposition, "Every body is pretty much the same, we become the most insensi tive kind nf collectivism If we overstress the common denom inator of mankind, we ignore the fact that it is the spirit of individuality thai gives meaning and flavor and de light to human existence, ihe consequences of such a view are often mass mediocrity, sheepish subservience, and communism. Proust, in his general novel remarks that "The universe is the same for all of us, and dif ferent for each of us." The same for all of us we have the same needs, the same gon bob cats, who are fighting off National Parkism. There are limits to what a man can endure. He is a human being, not a super man. And we Oregonians do have equal rights also, the right to own homes unmolested, to enjoy our recrea tion areas without regimenta tion or monopoly of a sacred white cow of National Parkism as a front to Department of In terior land grabs. Democrat committees should form in echelon to wave off safe ly the President before he pan cakes his popularity and that of the party. H. W. Bryson 700 Tipton rd. Roseburg, Ore. Early Fligiits To the Editor: Here is a Uni ted Press report of March 23, 1010. Clipping is from a South Dakota newspaper: "World's Record in Airship." French Lieutenant carries 15, 000 pounds of soldiers nearly mile a minute. Paris Lieutenant Brequet with an airplane carried eleven (11) soldiers, who weighed 15, 000 pounds, and the feat estab lished the use of the airplane in war, in carrying scouting par ties. It was in the year 1910 when the writer first read that "Kai ser Bill" of Germany then boasted having a fleet ot seven airplanes as part of war equip ment. Around that lime the late W alter P. Chrysler of Goodland, Kans., then a master mechanic for the Roik Island railroad company, was experimenting with a helicopter that never was perfected to fly more than to rise above the ground a few feet with its own power. He soon gave up the plan, to apply j to automobile designing and , manufacturing in Detroit. i Bert Kissinger, j 322 S. Riverside, ave., i Medford. ! Los Angeles Man To Be Chief of North Bend NORTH BEND. Ore. (UPI) -A 3roar-old detective in the Los Angeles county sheriff's dc- i partment will become police j i chief here Nov. 1. Sebastiano Zarbano Nov. 1. of El Monte, Calif., was chosen for the post from 61 applicants to replace Les Liebman, who re signed July 23. i on controversial nuciear ana nationalization issues. Strong elements within the party would like to declare Britain neutral and to abolish altogether Britain's nuclear weapons. These same elements would push nationalization of industry much further than the present leadership wishes to go. British Elections Political prognosticators in Britain now do not expect Brit ish elections until next June. They must be held no later than October and June is about the latest date to allow for cam paigning and such intangibles as a dip in employment or the national economy both of which would work against i. Karris loves, the same fears, the same rights, the same respon sibilities. And the man who denies this in the name of "in dividualism" becomes a de humanized creature. Different for each of us for each is a distinct unique per sonality, with his own way of looking at life, his own in dependence and autonomy, his own freedom to make decis ions, his own end in himself. And the man who denies this in the name of "society" cruelly sacrifices personal val ues for abstract social ones that can never be realized by collective action. Humanity is perpetually in the position of a charioteer with two horses wanting to go in opposite directions at the same time. If we give in to one or to the other, we cannot avoid crashing over the precipice. Like every good horseman, we must give each steed just the right amount of freedom and the right amount of control. To determine these degrees, and the proportions be tween them, is the continuing human task. It cannot be done if we allow either conflicting idea to run away with us, out of fear, or greed, or simple ignorance. The skillful combination of opposites is almost tne whole art of living In the Day's News By FRANK The winds of change are blow ing throughout the world as this dispatch from London indi cates. A GOVERNMENT proposal to raise pounds, shillings and pence and bring in DECIMAL currency, which most of the commercially civilized nations of the world now use, has set off widespread debate in Britain. A government committee has recommended that the change be made by 1967. According to the plan submitted by the com mittee, the British pound ster ling, now worth $2.80, would be divided into 100 cents instead of the present 240 pennies. One English cent, under the new plan, would be worth two Amer ican cents. Behind the proposed new scheme lies the insistence of British industrialists and bank ers that the historic but bungle some British currency is costing the country much precious time and therefore is costing much money which Britain needs. BUNGLESOME currency, ask? How come? WHY is it bunglesome? you ET'S put it this way: " Suppose you go into a store in London and purchase mer chandise priced at say one pound, two shillings and six pence. Suppose the smallest money you have in your wallet when you go to pay the bill is a five-pound note. You hand over the five quid and, naturally enough, you want to know how much is coming to you in the way of change. IOY ! ! ! You're facing a problem Ihe magnitude of which you won't comprehend until you tackle the job of subtracting one pound, two shillings and six pense from the five pounds you have just handed over to the sales person. IN YOUR mind, the problem will Innlf enmnthint, Itka Ihic- ,' 1 2 6 The L S P at Ihe top means pounds, shillings and pence. The S 0 0 means five pounds, no shillings, no pence (pence means pennies.) The 1 2 6 mean the one pound, two shillings and six pence your purchase comes to. Your job is to subtract the one pound, two and six from the five pounds you have Just handed over, so that yon will Prime Minister Harold Mac millan's Conservatives. By June the economy could be expected to pick up again after any winter recession, Love Match After the recent meeting be tween Soviet Premier Khrush chev and Yugoslav President Tito, West German diplomatic observers expect increasing con tacts between Yugoslavia and Warsaw Pact nations. They think a first step may be a visit of a Yugoslav military mis sion to Moscow. Poland already has invited Tito to visit War saw. Best bet for the next visit seems to be Hungary. Ecumenical Despite steps taken by Pope Paul to liberalize the Roman Curia, governing central body of the Roman Catholic Church, sources close to the Vatican say conservatives within the church cannot be written off. The con servatives still make up more than one third of the church Just Plain Jack In the Wilderness By Arthur Hoppe Good morning, friends in tele visionland. It's time for another visit with Just Plain Jack, the warm story of a never - say-die young man who constantly plans to win through another day. Like on Nov. 3, 1964. As we join Just Plain Jack, he and the Beautiful Society Girl he married are in the bedroom together, packing their suit cases. Jack: Oh, it's good to do things together. And there's nothing like the adventure of traveling. It saves many a mar riage. By the way, Dear, where are you going? Society Girl: Greece. Ah, the wine dark sea. Ah, the . . . Jack: Good. And don't forget to say how much our nation owes our wonder f u 1 Gracco American voters. As for me, I'm off to the wilderness. Ah, JENKINS know whether or not your change is correct. 'V'OW comes the grief. Obviously, you can't sub tract 6 from 0. So you have to borrow. All there is to borrow is a shilling, and a shilling is worth 12 pence. So you work that out, and hope for the best. That brings you to the shill ings and you can't borrow two shillings from 0 shillings and besides you've borrowed one shilling already. So you have to borrow a pound to get enough shillings to subtract two shillings from. And that is complicated by the fact that there are 20 shillings in a pound. AT THIS point, your mind reels at the magnitude of the mathematical problem you nave tackled, so you accept graieiuny wnatever tne cashier hands you and walk out of the store in a daze, muttering to yourself and biting your finger nails. If you're wise, you won't EVER try to unsnarl the tangle. You'll just rely on the tradition al honesty of British business people and take whatever you get. OO- " You see It isn't much to be wondered at that our British cousins are finally getting around to chang ing their fantastic currency sys tem over into simple decimals. The wonder is that they didn't do it CENTURIES ago. "f don't know he might be Ihe guy we hired to WTile tunny qjiniper stickers!" , Seen hierarchy and are in a position to block approval on specific subjects as they come up for a vote. Thus they are in a strong position to tone down what they don't like in the way of liber alization and force compro mises. Pope Paul is moving to decentralize the authority of the curia, which now is made up mostly of Italians, and delegate greater authority to bishops in their own territories. Silent Partner Japanese Premier Hayato Ikeda dismayed many Japanese officials when he offered to mediate the dispute over Malaysia and as a result has been playing it down ever since. Both the Philippines and Indo nesia have refused to recognize the new federation, and Indo nesia has said it actively will train guerrilla fighters opposed to it. Since World War II, Japan has tried to steer clear of Asian disputes and Ikeda's offer seemed lo violate a traditional role. wilderness? Nothing cleanses the soul like communing with nature. The sky, the stars, the pines . . . Besides, Pierre says it'll be good for my image. You know, like Teddy Roosevelt. (Portly Pierre, the faithful family retainer, rushes in wav. ing a sheet of paper.) Pierre: We got your itinerary worked out, Chief. It's great. It's dramatic. First stop is the giant redwoods of California, even now threatened by the log gers. You stand erect. You throw out your arms. You cry, "Woodsman, spare this tree!" You are surrounded by thos sands. Jack (happily rubbing his hands): Of voters? Pierre: Of trees. Jack: Oh. Pierre: Then on lo the Point Reyes coast, home of the clam and seagull. You stand on the desolate strand, defying the real estate interests, protector of the poor thousands around you who cry out for help. Jack .(wryly): Poor clams? Pierre: And seagulls. Then you trek across the vast empty deserts of Nevada. On to the pinnacles of the Rockies where none has trod before. You lose yourself in the lonely depths of the Grand Canyon. You . . . Jack: Don't I get to dedicate a dam? You usually get a good turnout when you give the peo ple a dam. Pierre: Oh, no, Chief. This is a conservation trip. We worked it out so you won't see a soul for days. Ah, wilderness! Nothing but wilderness. You'll preserve all this grandeur. Think how your memGi-y will be revered by generations yet unborn. Jack: Right. And think how many of them will vote next November. Maybe we better change that itinerary a bit. Now, let's see. We'll make speeches in Salt Lake City, Laramie, Seattle - Tacoma and Great Falls, Montana. We've got trouble in Montana. Toss in Las Vegas. Nevada's touch and go. And throw in a dam in Cali fornia. That's a real swing State. And . . . Pierre: But, Chief, what about the wilderness? Jack (hand over heart): No one, Pierre, loves the wilderness more than I. Even though I've never seen it. And I will prove this to one and all. No matter how many big cities I must go to. Will Jack Save the Wilder ness? Will Jack Give a Dam? (cq) Tune in to our next epi sode, folks. And meantime, as you go down the byways of life, remember: To preserve the age old glories of nature all you need is just plain jack, (cq) TI CAMPAIGN 8 Jl "tAttOUMTTW
