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ilEDFORDwiJTEIBUNI "Mttryoam In Southern Oresoo ubllihed Dauy except Saturday bj MEDFORD PRINTING CO. North fir St., Ph. SP a-Ml " ROBERT W RUHL, Editor HERB GREY. AdverUilns Manager GERALD T. LATHAM. Bill Mtr. ERIC W ALLEN JR.. Mnf. Editor EARL H. ADAMS. City Editor HARRY CH1PMAN, Teleg. Editor RICHARD JEWETT. Sport! Ed tor OLIVE STARCHER. Women's Editor DALE ErUWHaU". vircuiaumi "B An Indtsendeot Newipaper Sntered as eecond claie matter at Medford, Oregon, under Aet of March 3. 1887 SUBSCRIPTION RATES By Mall In Advance. Copy 10c n.iiv and Sunday 1 year 118.00 Dally and Sunday mos. 8.00 Dally and Sunday S moi. 4 M Sunday Only One year 8 JO By Carrier In Advance Medford Ashland. Central Point Bail e Point, Jackaonvllle, Gold Hill. Phoenix, Shady Cove Rogue Riv er Talent and on motor routei. Delly and Sunday 1 vear $18.00 Dally and Sunday 1 mo. I SO Carrier and Dealeri copy 10c AH Terms t:aan in Aavancp "official Paper of City of Medford Official Paper of Jackion County United Pre" International ruu Leaaea wire U.P.I. Telephoto Ncwplcturej "MEMBER Of AUDIT BUREAU Of CIRCULATIONS AdvertMnc Renreentative: WEST HOLIDAY CO.. INC. Of fices In New York, Chicago. De. trolt. San Francisco. Log Angelej. Seattle. Portland. St Louie, At lanta. Vancouver, B C. Nf WSPAFEt UILUHIM ASSOCIATION NATION At EDITORIAL Flight o' Time Medford and Jackson County History from the files of The Mail Tribune 10, 20, 30, 40 and 50 years ago. , 10 YEARS AGO Mar 1951 (Saturday) World oblivion can be avoided by a united America, MaJ. 5en. Thomas A. Rllea, Oregon's adjutant general, ; told an Armed Forces day au ' dlence here today. 'A civil aeronautics board ; examiner has recommended ; increased air service between ' Medford and Klamath Falls. SO YEARS AGO Mar 19. 1941 (Tuesday) Hollywood starlet Ginger Rogers and her mother have purchased a ranch - on the Rogue river north of Medford, From Arthur Perry's "Ye Smudge Pot" column: "Spring houiecleanlng and golf tour naments are all the rage among the Older . Girls and their breadwinners.' Among the latter it is more fun to beat a foe I up than a dlnlrlg room rug In 9,864 strokes, and 138 to go." 90 YEARS AGO Mar 19. 1931 (Wednesday) Under the rules for to night's Walkathon at the Med ford Natatorlum, contestants can sleep only IB minutes at a time and will be served regular meals. ' 40 YEARS AGO Mar 19. 1921 (Friday) The first group of a 22-man crew, who will maintain a continuous forest tire flying patrol, arrived here today. The Medford Chautauqua committee of 60 met here to day to discuss plans for a week-long meeting series later In the month. M YEARS AGO Mar 19, 1911 (Friday) New Jersey Gov. Woodrow Wilson, a potential presiden tial candidate, visited Med ford today and lauded Oregon for Its "progresslveness." The mayor of Eugene and several of that city's council men were In Medford today Inspecting recent paving Jobs. Whsl's Year I.Q.? Nine at tea carreer Is lu eerier; seven ee elgltf (s excellent) Hve er all h feed. 1. Who were the respective heads of governments of the U.S. and France when the Louisiana Purchase was nego tiated? 2. In which State are the colleges of Mt Holyoke and Smith? 3. Is the headquarters of the American Red Cross In New York City or Washing ton, D.C.T 4. Which American public official, now retired, was "Cactus Jack"? . 5. Old the Golden Age oc cur in Rome, or Greece? 6. California was once a part of Vcxlco; true or false? 7. Senator McClellan, Dem ocrat, represents which State In the U. S. Senate? t. The famous Krupp muni tions works were located in which German city? 9. Name the French phar macist that popularized the slogan, "Day by day, In every way, I am feeling better and better." 10. Is the horse a bovine, equine, or ovine? : Aaswerst 1. Thomas Jef ferson and Napoleon Bona parte. a Massachusetts. 9. Washington, D.C. 4. Form Vice President John N. Gar iter. . Oreeee. t. True. 7. Arkansas. 9. Essen. 9. Emits Cons. 10. Equine. FRIDAY. MAY 19. 1961 Prank or Crime? Youthful prank? Or serious crime? The line between pretty thin. And in too many cases the youth who thinks he's just being gay, witty and light hearted is actually committing a crime, the rec ord of which will follow Impressine on voune suits of unthinking actions is a problem which has long bothered parents, teachers, police au thorities, judges, and 1X7HEN it comes to " there are several une is me Doy or gin wrone and doesn't care. Another may find right and wrong blurred, with only a hasy line separating them. A third may actually not knowwhat is right or wrong in any given instance, without further instruction. There isn't too much that can be done to help the first type, except to try to keep him in line and out of trouble. For the second or third, however, guidance and education can make the difference between a good future, or one clouded by wrong-doing born from ignorance or indifference. '. THE current issue of the NCCD News, publi naMnn nf trio, WaMnnal nrmnri1 nn flrime iinrl Delinquency, reports on a new booklet, entitled "You and the Law," designed to follow one of the recommendations of the White House Con ference on Children and "That informational material and brief summaries of laws of major concern to young people be devel oped to help them avoid initial minor infractions ' which often lead to negative attitudes and more se rious delinquency." "You and the Law" was written by the West chester Citizens Committee of the NCCD. It has been added to the curriculum of a number of schools in New York, and has been adapted to other states. ; Tt alsn will Vip userl and others. Even parents, those neglected souls, could put it to good use in their own homes. , . THE pamphlet, 12 pages in length, resulted from a remark by a judge who said that-many of the junior and senior high school children who came before him were unaware of the seri ousness of the offenses involved and the penalties entailed. The pamphlet is based on interviews with school officials, teachers, sociologists, judges,. lawyers and district attorneys. , -, It fills a gap in teaching materials, written in simple prose, it tells of specific laws and the -.lif. if sill. . 1 it.- 1 penalties ior vioiauon : jf i; Li v i aisunciion oeiween civil between felonies and misdemeanors, and defines some basic terms, such as offenses, violations, sentences, probation and parole. ; . , IT GIVES actual examples of actions which started out as youthful escapades but really were crimes, and points out the penalties ' pos sible in each case, under the laws on larceny, burglary, malicious mischief and disorderly conduct. There is a section on a Criminal Record," which points out that "a single act , of recklessness, irresponsibility, or animal spirits can affect Copies of the pamphlet, at 15 cents each (less in bulk lots) are obtainable from the Na tional Council on Crime and Delinquency, 44 East 23rd Street, New York 10, N. Y. Obviously, the pamphlet is no panacea. But equally obviously, it could be exceedingly help ful if used properly. If even one or two or three young people, through its use, are encouraged to avoid a first fatal mistake, society would be saved many times the cost. E. A. The Bill for Crime Apropos the above, a life of crime is costly not only to the criminal, but to society in gen eral and the taxpayer in particular. , The criminal, except in rare instances, makes very little money far less, over the years, than he could make in an honest and respectable job. He also suffers his losses of freedom, his self respect, and the respect of those around him. But the loss doesn't stop there. IT HAS been estimated that the costs to society of a young man who starts out as a juvenile delinquent and ends up as a criminal at the age of 22 or 23 including prosecutions, court costs, police costs, prison costs equal to the cost of sending a young man through school and college. It costs the taxpayers $1,354.97 per year to keep one man in the state penitentiary for one year. And this doesn't count the cost of the penitentiary itself, nor the depreciation on equipment. Our law enforcement services of all sorts make up a considerable portion of anybody's tax bill. "THERE is a negative loss from crime, too, as well as this positive loss. The criminal is lost as a productive, taxpay ing member of society. This is probably the greatest loss of all. And both of these are in addition to the ac tual depredations of the criminal the physical. financial and moral losses and injuries he in flicts. The total bill, nationally, is in the billions oi dollars, it is sheer waste. E. A. these two sometimes is him all his life. people the possible re- others concerned. "juvenile delinquency," possibilities. wno Knows ngiu lrum Youth, which advised: bv clubs, church croups m which they became aisu explains me general - i j i l 3 anu criminal law, anu "The Consequences of your whole lite. and so on are about Dennis the Menace M.WUSON WON? UT US HAVE OUR BALL ' Hof fa Suffers Modest Setback In Transportation Unionization By LYLE C. WILSON WashLngton-ttJPD-Next to the H-bomb, the most powerful force In the United States p r o b ably is controlled by the Teamsters; James R. Hof- fa. Hoffa's un ion is the In T cm lci a uuuai - : 1 ft B r o therhood of Teamsters, C h a u ffeurs, Ware house men and Help ers of America-the Teamsters union for short. There are dis turbing Indications that Hoffa intends to create a unionized transportation monopoly in the United States. His combination in one un ion of teamsters, chauffeurs, warehousemen and their help ers provides a broad base for a monopoly of U.S. transpor tation. Hoffa moved last week toward power to control American transportation and to paralyze it at will. This week he suffered a modest setback. Last week's action was the signature of a mutual assist ance pact by Hoffa with the chiefs of the International Lonushoremen's Associa t i o n and the National ' Maritime Union. The setback came Tuesday when the Longshore men's executive committee re pudiated the mutual assistance agreement. Giant Union Sought What Hoffa is believed to have In mind is an alliance of his teamsters with all other U.S. transportation unions, land, sea and air. Such a con centration of union power would have no precedent here. Hoffa is guiding the geo graphical divisions of his own union to a situation In which teamster contracts will expire in all parts of the country at the same time. That situation could Invite a nationwide Teamsters strike, a disastrous thing. If Hoffa 8 teamsters were sup ported by other transportation unions in such a strike it would not need to last long to measure up to some ex ploding H-bombs in terms of hurt to the people of the United States. The American people prob ably are not aware of Hoffa's position In the community nor of his potential power for harm. One American who Is fully aware of Hoffa is the U.S. Attorney General, Rob ert Kennedy. Significant Book This Kennedy was counsel for the McClellan Senate com mittee which Investigated la bor and management mis deeds. The record of Hoffa's i3 m lis. LMJ Try and Stop Me -By BENNETT CERF ONE OF THE most beguiling films in the world unfortu nately will never be exhibited publicly. It's a compila tion of all the song-and-dance numbers done by Ginger Rogers and Fred Aslaire from their first collabor ation, "Flying Down to Rio," to their last, "The Barklcys of Broadway." It runs for three solid hours, and includes such memorable numbers as "Check to Cheek," "The Continental," "All My Ksgs in One Basket," and "They Can't Take That Away From Me." There are only two prints of this film in ex istence: Fred Astaire has one, and Ginger the other. There are too many rights in volved to permit a general release. e e e Tna teenage son slumped dejectedly In his chair, and his mother anxiously whispered to his father, "What's biting htm now?" "It's nothing worth whispering about," said the father resignedly. "He wants to go to the drugstore down at ths corner but ths car won't start." O 11. by BeaniU Cert. DliUibuted by Kw Features Syndicate lOOX.m FOR SOMETHM02" union was a shocker. Sylves-jon ter Petro summarized the Mc Clellan committee testimony in a book, "The Corruption of Union Leadership," published in 1959 by the Ronald Press, of New York, at $5. Petro is not anti-union. He was active in the CIO's organizational campaign in the 1930s. Citi zens should read this book for an estimate of Hoffa in particular and labor monopoly in general. Counsel, now attorney gen eral, Kennedy expressed . in 1957 this opinion: "There is no organization, union or busi ness, that has a greater effect Washington Report By William S. White (ci United Feature Syndicate NEO-ISOLATIONISM Washington -American for eign policy stands at the most fateful crossroads since the old isolation ists and paci fists narrowly failed two decades ago to prevent this country from joining in the resistance t o the Nazis and Fascists. White J-nis move ment honestly believed itself dedicated to "peace" and to America first. But had it had its way, America would have finished not first but third -the third victim, after Britain and France, of an anti-human force centered in Adolf Hit ler. Now there has risen to frightening influence a new American isolationism, a new American pacifism which may well destroy the capacity of the United States to resist the equally anti-human force of international Communism, e e e IN one way, Indeed, the dan ger is greater now than then. For the old Isolationists, the old pacifists at least did not deny their isolationism, their pacifism. But the new isolationism will not acknowl edge itself for what it is. The new pacifism will not admit, even to itself, that the In evitable end of its reasoning is the surrender of one anti Communist position after another until there will be at last no place left for the West to turn and stand its ground. Instead, the neo-isolation-Ists, the neo-pacifists put the plain maining of their policies under a bland, superior cloud of self , deluding talky - talk. They do not simply say flatly that we should take no risk in MEDFORD MAIL TRIBUNE. MEDFOHD, OREGON Way of Life in Algeria Ending Of Bombs, By PHIL NEWSOM UPI Foreign News Analyst Plastic bombs disturb the quiet of Paris , nights. In the vacation village of E v i a n -les -Bains near the Swiss bor der, the citi zens wonder der if there M will be a rep etition of the bomb blast ...U i -U . 4 1, lsyrriif; of Newiom men majTui. In Algiers, Moslem and European alike nervously draw their shutters against the night at the 10 p.m. cur few. The bombs are sounding the requiem of a way of life in Alceria. It is a way of life which over more than the last six vears has been marked by war and violent hatreds stirred between one million European settlers and more the community life of this country, a greater effect on our economy, than the Team sters' Union.' Sen. Sam Ervin (D-N.C), a committee member, heard the testimony and said that the Teamsters' power to interfere with trade was greater than that of local, state and federal eovernments. Petro's judg ment was that the president of the Teamsters Union com mands the greatest unrestrain ed economic power in the United States. Citizens should do their home work on this powerful man this world - not in Cuba, not in Laos, not anywhere - and let it go at that. With that kind of candor, the Issues could at any rate be met head-on. Rather, they argue, for example, simply that Cuba is not really a threat to the United States, in spite of the public alliance with the Soviet bloc publicly proclaimed by Fidel Castro. Cuba is only "peripheral," though Cuba lies 90 miles from the American shoreline and though for the first time in our nationhood an aggres sive international power has an undeniable lodgment in this hemisphere. e CO it is with Laos. Laos is not really worth any risk, either. We are held to be interfering there in local poli tics, or something or the oth er. Again, the pre - conditions for fair debate are denied for lack of candor among the new isolationists, the new paci fists. For nearly all those who now declare that Castro of fers no great danger to us were In the forefront of those who built up the dictator Cas tro, with almost hysterical hosannas, In the first place He is in part their own cre ation. This truth they cannot admit without admitting their share of . responsibility. So what is a truth becomes, to them, no truth at all. The new isolationists, the new pacifists have honorable motives. But at the very bot tom they are also men caught by a dangerous and shallow myth exploded way back in Hitler's time for all mankind to see. This is the. delusion that all force is always evil (and all generals always stu pid), even when only force is left to defend right and jus tice. It is the delusion that only "diplomacy" and "nego tiation" are acceptable weap ons. . . QO we fail in Cuba because we dare not risk direct action and thus the censure of the neo-isolationists, the neo pacifists in this and other countries. So our Secretary of State refuses one day to sit down at Geneva with Com munist gunmen and next day agrees to sit down with them, under pressure of the neo pacifists in England, in France and here. It is easy to laugh aside those who object to these sur renders. It is only necessary to suggest that we are simply naive, excitable men, flag wavers and war-mongers. But just as Hitler tragically fool ed the old isolationists and pacifists, Khrushchev Is trag ically fooling this new lot. So President Kennedv faces a great imperative of history. He must soon free himself of every shadow of the influence of this new lot. or this coun try is going down the drain -and so is his administration in the long book of that history. !l W as 'Ultras than nine million Moslems, but which had its beginnings more than 100 years ago. The French conquered Al giers in 1830.. Drawn by the lure of free land, settlers from France, Malta, Italy and Spain poured into Algeria in such numbers that at the end of the first 40 years they to taled more than a quarter of a million. Moslem property rights not always received much heed. Now the French "ultras" ps those who violently oppose President Charles, de Gaulle's plan for an Independent Al geria are called, feel that they have been betrayed. Certainly during the com ing weeks of the Evian nego tiations between De Gaulle's representatives and the Al gerian rebels, the "ultras" may be expected to step up their terrorist activities. Ultimately, they must fail as the generals' revolt in Algeria failed a few weeks ago. But despite all precautions they continue capable of caus ing great damage. It is even possible that by some ill-considered act they could make Moslem and European co-existence in a free Algeria im possible. De Gaulle has asked Al geria's Europeans' to remain in the new Algeria and to help rebuild a nation which he hopes will remain in close association with France. The more violent of the Strictly Personal By Sidney J. Harris (c) General Features Corp. PRIVACY FOR PUBLIC FIGURES Despite the well - known (and comically ironic) sensi tivity of the press to criti cism of its own a c t i v Hies, I should like to commit a little quiet treason to my trade to- day, and sug gest that the President and his family be given a little of the privacy they so devoutly crave. Not long ago, press pho tographers were denied the right to take pictures of the President teeing off. I think fills is a right they could easily abandon without at all jeopardizing our precious free dom of the press. There is a clearly distin guishable line, it seems to me, between stories and pictures in the public interest and those which serve only the most childish and vulgar curi osity. I recognize that human interest is an element in snapping pictures of the Presi dential famlly-but there does come a point when the inter est definitely reaches the sub human level. After all, one teeing-off pic ture is much like another. One shot of the President entering church is like another. One photograph of Caroline run ning across the lawn is like another. What the President's press secretary ought to do is to assemble the first family for a strenuous day of pictures all the routine, standard, sen timental, human interest shots for a whole year. These could include swing ing off the first tee, sailing the boat, licking an ice cream cone, sitting in a theater seat and whatever other little do mestic pastiches the cunning camera men demand. Dozens upon dozens of these intimate family scenes should be made from every angle and in every light. e Then, when President Ken nedy wants to take a morn ing at the golf course, the newspapers and wire services will have a ready-made phc.o of the Presidential swing. No need to waste time, men and equipment trooping out to the fairways for a shot that looks exactly like all other golf snots. I do not mean to single out the photographers for my opprobrium. They are acting under orders, and it is the orders that are so often fool ish and unnecessary. For, after all, what makes public figures "human" are the spontaneous things they do-and the mere presence of a crew of report ers, camera men and TV tech nicians ruins the spontaneity and kills off the very quali ties the occasion was supposed to generate. It is a truism that public figures voluntarily give up the right to much of their privacy when they step Into the limelight. But it is equally true that pursuing them up hill and down dale, through the most trivial activities, only serves to dehumanize their personal reactions " to such publicity, and, like all ex cesses, quickly becomes self- defeating. Harris Voice Protests " - I- L-e, ultras say they will do any thing but that. Many already have liqui dated their holdings and are planning to get out. They look to North or South America or to Spain. Algerian nationalists also say they need the Europeans who wish to remain and pro In the Day's News By FRANK England has an Interesting institution known as the Na tional Trust. Its purpose is to preserve the historic and love ly places in the Tight Little Isle. More than a thousand such places have already been preserved and beautified. The National Trust is sup ported by individual contribu tions, based upon member ship dues. The minimum mem bership fee is 20 shillings per year ($2.80 at the present rate of exchange.) It is a patriotic enterprise, for England is a fabulous storehouse of history and leg end for the whole English speaking world. In addition, it is a THRIFTY project, for tourism is one of present-day England's largest sources of revenue. Tourism is coming to be rather highly regarded in the U.S.A., and in our own State of Jefferson we are be coming at least vaguely aware of its possibilities. Over here, it is BIG BUSI NESS. If, for any reason, the flow of tourist money should suddenly stop, the effect on business-not only in England but all over Western Europe -would be disastrous. ENGLAND has a farm prob lem. Its origin is identical with that of our farm prob lem. Which is to say, when World War II started England realized that something dras tic would have to be done to encourage the production of MORE FOOD. As the German submarines began to get in their deadly work, the prob lem became acute. Before the war, England (often described as a nation of small shopkeepers) was pro ducing only about 40 per cent of its food supply. The rest was Imported. So a system of SUBSIDIES was instituted. Stimulated by these sub sidies, England's farmers in creased their production fab ulously. Hitherto unf armed land (including huge estates) devoted largely to hunting (in cluding fox hunting) was broken up and put into crops. English farmers revolution ized their methods. Hand Communications Incident on Mars To the Editor: This happen ed on the Planet Mars last week: An elderly gentleman, in the company of three com panions, attended a meeting of a club, known on Mars as the Fifty Plus Club. Follow ing the meeting, this quartet drove to the home of a mem ber of the group for ice cream and strawberry short cake. Enroute to this home their car was purported to have side-swiped a car parked at the curb, causing consider able damage. However, not one of the four occupants of the car were aware any such side-swipe had occurred. The following afternoon a police appeared at the home of this gentleman and served him with a citation to appear in court to answer to a charge of being a hit and run driver, or leaving the scene of an ac cident, even though he was unaware that there had been any accident. At the so-called trial or hearing, no material or well verified evidence was pre sented to support the conten tion that this man had been In vol vet" in the purported traf fic v.olatlon. This Elderly Gentleman, uncertain of his j status or his rights before the court, not represented by le gal counsel, confused and frightened, admitted the pos sibility of guilt while at the same time protesting that he was innocent. He certainly had not been proven guilty. The presiding judge Imposed a fine of $150 which, inciden tally, he suspended and sent the man home. Justice had been administered, the dig nity of the law upheld, the au thority of the police estab lished, and every one was happy-that is, every one ex cept the Elderly Gentleman who, being the type of citizen on which stable society is built and maintained, proud of his 82 years of upright liv ing and knowing in his heart he was innocent of any wrong-doing in this situation, was very unhappy. He went home from the court room a broken and shaken man. He rested for a time, then prepared and ate his lunch, washed his dishes, sat down in a comfortable chair in his living room and died died of a broken spirit and a broken to Sound mise that no distinction will be made on the basis of origin or creed. De Gaulle foresees a future of confederation among Mor occo, Tunisia and an Algeria closely linked with France. But more than the prestige of France hangs upon the ne gotiations at Evian. JENKINS work was abandoned, and modern machinery took its place. By the end of the war, England was producing better than two-thirds of its own food supply. THEN came the war's end. By that time, with the aid of the subsidies, farming had become quite profitable. And As was the case in the U.S.A. The politicians shuddered at the mere thought of what might happen as a result of repealing the subsidy, laws. So as in our own case the evil day was postponed, and the situation was allowed to drift. The cost of maintaining the subsidies is becoming burden some to the taxpayer, but as yet nothing has been done about it. The general hope has been that the exchequer would be able to "muddle through" in some way, but by this time it is coming to be plain that something will have to be done. ENGLAND is prosperous. Probably, everything con sidered, more prosperous than ever before in its . history meaning by that, of course, more prosperous for tha whole body of English people. One doesn't have to dig into economics to come to that con. elusion. It is obvious on the streets, in the stores, in the hotels everywhere that peo ple gather. The English are well fed, well housed and WELL ENTERTAINED. But even the tourist is be ginning to hear this question: HOW LONG WILL IT LAST? Which is evidence that tha thought is present in English minds that maybe the present prosperity isn't based upon SOLID foundations. Among other' things, pro duction costs are getting dis turbingly high-and if they get TOO HIGH England, which is an industrial country, will suf fer loss of business to com petitors who are able to under sell her in the markets of the world. heart. Unfortunately the officers of the law on Mars forgot for the moment that they wera the servants of society and not its custodians. This happened on Mars. It could not, of course, happen in Medford. (Name on File) Medford. Sportsfair Site To the Editor: The Sports fair Home and Garden show produced by Crater Lions club of Medford is looking for a new home for the 1962 production. The Armory has unoffici ally notified the Sportsfair committee thai an eight-foot steel fence is to be erected around the southern end of the Armory for a parking lot and parade ground, which will eliminate the use of the outside area for fair use. This loss of space, coupled with the loss of the upstairs, due to permanent bleachers fixed this year, makes the Armory almost useless for this Jack son county function. The rent to the Armory for the three day show has been over $500 and Is on the budget for next year. Any assistance for space next year would be appreci ated. Frank M. Wilson Crater Lions Club Box 604 Medford. Just Plain Selfish To the Editor: Before every election we hear, from the papers, television and ra dio, that everyone should vote and let the people make their choice. It seems that it is just a joke to even bother. How many times have the people of Oregon made their choice regarding daylight saving time? Now it seems the business men (they go to work about 9 a.m.) are go ing to force it on us regard less. For years business places and the people have done very well with our national time zones. Now It would seem some people are very selfish, or Just plain stupid if they do not want them to have, or cannot remember, a different time In a neighbor state. L. Page Route 1, Box 484 Central Point, Ore. (