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MEDFORD MAIL TRIBUNE. MEDFORD, OHM. 4 T, NOVLMBfcrt it. l MedfordsJ&Thibunk "Everyone in Suuuiern Orejjon Published Daily excent'Saturdty by J3 North fir St Ph. 8P 3-6 141 KUBE.ni W num., e.u.we HKflB GREY AdveUliinf Manafl nat. a, s n I A TU A U Qua Msrr URIC W ALLEN JR.. Mni Edltoi EARL H ADAMS. City Editor RICHARD J EWE TT SporU Ed tOT OLIVE ST ARCHER Women' Editor V7T!iTr J 4 M.i.HnirWir Sntered at second daw matter i March 3, J80J.a By Mall - In Advance. Copy 10a Dally and Sunday 1 year. 115 00 Dally and Sunday moa 8 on Ti-n. mnA SnniiaV 3 moi 4-31 m MSJ'r.nt?.! Point E . I Point, Jacksonville Gold Hill Phoenix Shady Cove, Rosue Rlv : or. raiem ana u " Dally nd Sundy vear S1BJ0 Daily and Sunday 1 mo 1-50 Carrier and Dealers copy loo All Terms ""vr"--" .. "of'clal Paper of City of Medford Official Paper of Jackson County United Preae International Full Leased Wire tj P.1 TelephotoJ."ewsplctures "HmMmiCot AuprTmmEAV OF CIRCULATIONS WEST HOLIDAY CO. INC Of fice! In New York Chlcaro D trolt. San Francisco. Los Anfelea SeatUe. Portland St Louis At. 1 apta. Vancouver. B.C; qO NEWSPAPER JBtlSHERS NATIONAL EDITORIAI y AsfsbctHTio I cj w w ntiMim'.u.'.i.tg Flight o' Time Medford and Jackson County History from the files of The Mall Tribune 10. 20. 30 40 ind SO vein age. 10 YEARS AGO Nov. 21, 1950 (Tuesday) In order to permit its em ployees to enjoy the holiday, the Mail Tribune will not be published on Thursday, thanksgiving day. There are 15,756 children between the ages of four and 20 In Jackson County, an in crease of 747 over 1949, ac cording to the county school iuperintendent's office. 20 YEARS AGO Nov. 21. 1940 (Thursday) Former U. S. Senator A. Evan Reames of Medford was the principal ' speaker at a Democratic "victory" dinner t the Hotel Ashland last From Arthur Perry's "Ye Smudge Pot" column: "The Thanksgiving feasting is over and now, cornea Turkey Cro quettes Xux Chateaux, often uspected by diners as being hash with a codfish base." 30 YEARS AGO Nov. 21, 1930 (Friday) A lone armed bandit robbed twt local hamburger stands yesterday. A carload of valley turkeys was sent to San Francisco this week where they will sell for 26 cents a pound. 40 YEARS AGO Nov. 21, 1920 (Sunday) The Oak Grove district, at special election Friday, vot ed down a special 10 mill levy for road Improvements. Citizens of Jacksonville held a banquet Saturday night in honor of the defeat at the polls of a proposal o trans fer the courthouse to Medford. SO YEARS AGO Nov. 21. 1910 (Monday) The Southern Pacific rail road is erecting a new freight depot two blocks south of Main st.; it will be four times larger than the existing one. A local doctor has received a large quantity of typhoid vaccine from the federal gov ernment to give free of charge to anyone wanting it. What's Your I.Q.? Nina at ten cornet (i superior even ar eight Is excellent) five at III Is good. 1. How much money In gold coin is in circulation in the United States? mous for their small ponies? 2. What Islands are (n- 3. What queen celebrated her golden jubilee in 1887 and her diamond Jubilee in 1897? 4. What do musicians re fer to when they speak of ASCAP? 5. What was man's earli est known implement? 6. What is the United States Flag called when It is being carried by a cavalry regiment? 7. Did War Admiral, Sea Biscuit or Johnston win the Kentucky Derby In 1P30? 8. What arc the first five books of the Old Testament called as a group? 9. Which musical instru ment Is the highest pitched of 11? 10. W h a t have Jersey, Guernsey, Alderney and Sark In common? Answers: 1. Nona, since 1933. 2. Shetland. 3. Quean Victoria. 4. American Soci ety of Authors, Composers and Publishers. 5. A stone. 6. The Standard. 7. Johnston. 8. The - Pentateuch. S. Piccolo. 10. English Channel islands. I -ASSOCIATION We'd Squawk Too What would you do beaten to death? Stroll on down tne street wniie the killer rolled down his sleeves and strolled in the other direction? . . . Probably not. The least you would do is re port the matter to the nearest policeman. And what would you expect in return? Not three months in jail. And yet that's what two men in Medford got- with another month to go. ... E'RE told it's all legal and maybe bo. But Norman Mclnnis and Virgil Ben nett have a beef coming. jail is that they're transients. They came to Medford to work in the pear harvest, where good earnings are possible. In stead, they're getting $1.50 a day in jail. Even the district attorney is sorry, and he doesn't blame the men for sauawkiner. But he's got to have them for witnesses when the trial of the slaying suspect opens next month and he them they'll leave town. And who could bJame tnem now! This seems one of those times when it takes an iniustice to do iustice. and Bennett will ever be goodwill ambassadors for Oregon. Oregon Statesman, Salem. Watch Them fVpcrnn's hillhnai'fl industry, victor in its ef forts to continue the profitable despoilment of Oregon s natural oeauty in jvuesaays election, will now go to the Legislature to seek additional protection from those who would regulate bill boards. The industry, with the help of a good many thousands of dollars from billboard people out side the state, and many more thousands from inside the state, managed through heavy, distort- . e e 1 A HIT fp- 11. . IT eel advertising to aeieat measure 10 on tne inov. 8 ballot. Mnur trip "Orpirnn Council of Outdoor Ad vertising," meaning the will go to the Legislature trols to strengthen tne existing outdoor adver tising act through logical channels." What they mean, undoubtedly, is they'll seek changes in law to further protect their vested in terest in the use of public roadways to put up distracting commercial messages. Industries do not go to law-making bodies and ask for regula tion, althougn tney may that they do. Coos Bay. Puerto Rico finv. T,nnis Munoz Marin took onlv 58 rer cent am m 1 1 i . T- or ruesaay s vote in ruerto ivico, wnicn is put cent less than he received in 1956. But 58 per cent was enough to sustain his program with the aid of the two-thirds majority of the Legislature which was also won by his Popular Democratic party. The work of rebuilding the economy and culture of Puerto Rico, which Governor Munoz Marin and his associates have been carrying on since 1948, will continue. The Governor s quarrel with the island's ko man Catholic Bishops over such issues as birth control, sterilization and have cut the majority he would otherwise nave had, but its effects were not politically serious. Governor Munoz Marin, himself a Catholic, evi dently carried many of his coreligionists with him. Everyone of whatever faith must rejoice in some of the things that have happened in Puerto Rico during Governor Munoz Marin's Adminis tration. Twelve years ago poverty, unemployment and a rapidly increasing population, indeed the whole stituation which former Gov. Rexford Tug well correctly described as "too many people on too little land," made Puerto Rico a dismal pic ture. In the intervening time real wages have about doubled, schools have been made available for all children, illiteracy has been nearly wiped out, and in short the general welfare of the is land has dramatically increased. Emigration, which has sent many Puerto Ricans to New York City and other American communities, is no long er a matter of desperate urgency. We wish Governor Munoz Marin another good four years. New York Times. Good and Bad It would be hard to improve upon Benjamin Franklin's familiar observation to Dr. Price: "When religion is good, it will take care of itself; when it is not able to take care of itself, and God oocs not see fit to take to appeal to the civil power for support, it is evi dence to my mind that its cause is a bad one." Liberty Magazine. Falcons Suggested Boston -rtJPD- Use of fnlcons to solve the starling problem 1 at Logan Airport has been suggested but a wildlife expert says the idea Is probably for the birds. A former member of the Massachusetts A 1 r National Guard stationed at the airport suggested unleashing hawks and falcons to drive off the starlings and seagulls that in fest the airport runways. Warren Runnier, Needham. said falconry was employed successfully at some British airports and was used also in South America to drive if you saw a person being Only reason .they're in s atraid it he releases ' We doubt that Mclnnis billboard lobby, says it "to seek additional con try. to maKe it appear World. : Holds Course 1 - T" i X. ! T- 3 A religious education may care of it, so that it has For Airport Use pigeons away from cathedrals and other large buildings. Allen S. Kennedy, super intendent of the state Bureau of Wildlife Research and Management, said he did. not think falcons could solve the problem and that the best solution seemed to He in de stroying the birds' feeding and nesting areas. Aviation officials have blamed a huge flight of star lings for the Oct. 4 Eastern Air Lines crash that killed 62 persons. Last week a jet air liner was forced to halt its takeoff when it ran into flock of birds, Dennis the jp ' " " ' " 'A BIQ SOY IN THIRD GRADE HOW BOUT THAT? Washington Report By WILLIAM CREEPING CRISIS Washington - A creeping crisis now eroding the dual foundation stones of Ameri can foreign policy, the Unit ed nations and the North At lantic Treaty Organization, coldly confronts the incom ing Kennedy administration. bo deucates, so severe and so p o t e n tial with dis aster are these , t w i n problems that an extraordi nary prospect is now raised. This is that the post of chief Ameri can represen tative of the U.N., whatever its past importance, will now become hardly less significant than the job of secretary of state itself. The United States is alien ating, some of its oldest allies, notably Belgium and France, by taking at the U.N. an "anti colonial" position against their vital interests in Afri ca. Already there are heavy strains on the unity of the heretofore dominant Western bloc in the U.N. Belgium, tragically buffet ed in the Congo, now openly speaks of a possible with drawal from the U.N. France, now in the seventh year of her agony in rebellious ' Al geria, is bitterly hurt with us. Worst of all, NATO Itself, the West's, basic military al liance, is reeling under all these shocks, no matter how many reassuring words are publicly uttered KENNEDY'S policies, mean while, are likely to be even more "anti - colonial" than those of the Eisenhower administration. The long and short of it Is that rarely has .any diplo matic assignment imposed so subtle and meaningful bur den upon its holder. He will need the greatest possible skill, the greatest possible hu man tact and human accepta bility, to be able to say "no" to our allies witn tne least possible damage to the alli ance Itself. Thus. President-elect Ken nedy's selection of his ambas sador to the U.N. will be one of the most difficult choices White Nixon Hopes New Regime Doesn't Go On Spending Spree Miami, Fla.-IUPD-Vlce Presi dent Richard M. Nixon said Sunday night he shared the hope with millions of other Americans that President elect John F. Kennedy would not start a spending spree after taking office. Nixon said he hoped that big-spending programs of the Democrats would have "tough sledding" in Congress and ad ded, "that's as it should be. It would be bad for the coun try." Uraet Eye on Castro On other matters, Nixon urged the Kennedy adminis tration to keep a watchful eye on Fidel Castro's moves In Latin America. "We cannot stand by and see Communists infiltrate and take over in Latin America the vice president said. "If countries request a:d we should step in and give them the assistance they need Nixon said Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev would make a (at-nl mistake If he believed "he can push us be yond where we will react. Menace CALLED WE 'PAL' TODAY. S. WHITE he must make. This is the more so because those who know the president-elect be lieve that in the real sense he will be his own secretary of state anyhow. e e rpHE NEW chief delegate to a- the U.N., on the contrary, may often be pretty much on his own. He will be removed from the White House both by distance and by the re quirement sometimes to act in a quick, ab-lib way in a forum where faster and fast er decisions are becoming more and more necessary. These are among the rea sons why there is a fairly strong belief here now that Aldai E. Stevenson will wind up in the U.N. post. His credit abroad is high. He is peculi arly sympatico, as the Latins put it - meaning highly liked in the human sense - to most of the world. And since his second defeat for the presi dency in 1956 he has made it his business to add to his already considerable knowl edge of that world, especial ly of the critical area of op portunity and danger, Africa, e e BUT, ALL this notwithstand ing, Mr, Stevenson is not quite so sympatico with Mr. Kennedy - and vice versa. Though surely not "enemies," they are not -the most inti mate of friends. And, justly or not, Stevenson lacks that full backing in Congress which the president-elect be lieves one of the requisites for the new secretary of state. So the solution of Steven son to the U.N. looks rather sound all around. The devot ed Stevenson backers would like to see him be secretary of state and are urgently ap pealing to Mr. Kennedy to that end. Stevenson, himself, characteristically, is asking nothing and demanding noth ing. His attitude will actually be more effective than that of his supporters with Mr. Ken nedy, The president-elect does not react well to demands, particularly emotional de mands. And he is coolly de termined to make his top ap pointments on the sole basis of who he believes would be the ablest man for what (Copyright, 1960. by United Feature Syndicate, Inc.) We'll react very strongly if they attempt to push us around," Nixon said. "We must stand firm and outlast those who are the enemies of the Free World." Nixon said he could not de termine the exact reason for losing the presidential elec tion to Kennedy. But he indi cated Kennedy told him at their meeting here last week that key Democratic victories came In states where there was considerable unemploy ment. "They were able to promise more than we were," Nixon said. Offers Received He said hes would postpone serious thought on his future plans until he returned to Washington, but revealed he had received "a number of of fers from most of the states." He squelched a rumor that he would enter Thomas E. Dewey's law firm in New York by saying, "I do not in tend to join any law firm In New York and that includes Mr, Dewey's." New Census Figures Powerful Constitutional Provision By LYLE C. WILSON United Press International Washington (UPU New cen sus figures reducing the con gressional representation of WPff some states Ff 7 1 and increasing i Mothers re- I i C"-tf a niinds that I M tYntm lea nnw. - ........ - r - erful, if un- Cj used, consmu l tional provi sion relating to civil rights and the con- uieT wuloT gressional rep resentation of , the various states. This provision is embraced in Section 2, Article 15, one of the reconstruction articles commonly known as the 15th Amendment. It was adopted by Congress in 1866 and be came effective two years later. The 15th Amendment pro vided that: "Representatives shall be apportioned among the several states according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each state, ex cluding Indians not taxed." A foot note to "The Consti tution of the United States" edited by Thomas James Nor ton explains further: Up to this time (1868) members of the House of Rep resentatives were allowed to each state in proportion to the whole population and three-fifths of the slaves but this new provision (15th Amendment) made each Negro count as one. Fraction Explained The fraction of "three- fifths! in counting the slave population was imbedded in Article 1 of the Constitution dealing with the legislative powers of Congress. Norton explains that it came about this way: Although slaves were not citizens or voters, the number of them was considered in laying direct taxes. The three- fifths fraction had been agreed on in Congress when the question was whether, in the levy of direct taxes, slave holding states would be un der-taxed (as Northern men contended) by not counting the slaves as population or over-taxed (as the South claimed) by counting them. The compromise then made as to taxation was employed as to representation in . the House." Norton concluded that the slave states received a dls- propriate representation in the House of Representatives by reason of their slave popu lation. The 15th Amendment club in the closet deals with voting rights for the offices of president, vice president, U.S. Communications Letters to the Editor must bear the came and address of the writer although undei cer tain circumstances the use of a Ben name 01 initial for publlca on Is permissible. The MaU Tribune reserves the right to edit all letters with an eye to clarification and condensation ltttar alihmHIu tnr mihllna. tlon must not exceed 40(Mvords2 Friday Night Thanks To the Editor: All during the Presidential campaign, I resisted impulse after impulse to write to the Mail Tribune. This morning (Saturday) I can no longer resist. . Medford is full of disap pointed people. Everyone ask ing each other, "What hap pened? I think I feel as sick at heart as most of them, but I do want to say something for our Medford High foot ball team. I have thoroughly enjoyed every game they play ed this year, and I saw all but one. I feel I more than got my money's worth from my season tickets. I've heard all kinds of ex planation from "no competi tion all year" to "over confi dent." As to the competition, if there was none, it wasn't the teams' fault. They have a district schedule to meet, and if there was no competi tion, they couldn't help that. I understand Coach Spiegel berg really had to scout for non-conference competition As for the "over confident," I don't believe it. "Over an xious" maybe, but not over confident. The whole team seemed to sense a do or die atmosphere all around them They seemed nervous and un sure, which we all know is n't like our team. Maybe, we as spectators were to blame, the stands were unusually quiet when I felt we should be yelling our heads off. I want to say a big "Thanks" to a superb team that has given us three months of thrill packed Friday nights. Now let's all get behind them for the basketball season ahead. Mary Shaw 1605 Crown ave. Medford. Children Thanked To the Editor: We wish to thank the children of the val ley who collected $785 in this year's Trick or Treat for UNICEF Halloween program; representatives, state execu tive, Judicial and legislative officers. ' When the right to vote in any such election is abridged to any qualified voter, the 15th Amendment provides that the basis of represent ation in such state shall be reduced in proportion to the number of persons whose vot ing rights have been abridged bears to the whole number of the state's qualified voters. Norton further explains: "This enables the nation to inflict punishment upon the state for preventing citizens from voting - from voting for national officers not only, but also some officers ' of the state." Power Never Used Congress has the power to act under the foregoiig pro visions of tile Constitution. It never has used this power to reduce the number of a state's representatives in the House. The weapon lies handy, how Foreign Notebook: West Wants No Repetition of Paris Fiasco By PHIL NEWSOM UPI Foreign Editor From the Foreign Editor's notebook: Delayed Summit: The guessing in London is that if there is a Big Four summit con ference next spring, it will come con siderably later VjttJ'l than first I"-?' J thought. The 3f"M thoug I rcaso I the reason is that West wants no repe- SX-I1VJ on oi lasi PMiTkEwsoM springs fans fiasco and will take plenty of time to prepare, probably urg ing that the first contact with Russia be at the foreign min ister's level. Moscow's latest maneuverings suggest that Khrushchev aims at a quick Berlin "settlement at the next summer session, and a foreign minister's conference preceding it may help deter mine the chances for success. Scare Propaganda! The Communists have drawn up plans for establish ment of a civil defense air raid corps in East Berlin. The step is in line with the Com munist campaign to convince East Germans they are threat ened by an attack from West Germany. Gailskell Winsi Hugh Gaitskell, at'least temporarily, has quashed his opposition among Britain's Laborite parliamentary dele gation. He now can be expect ed to go all out to attempt to convince the national party that it must stop Its newly adopted policy favoring uni lateral nuclear disarmament. He is expected to argue that labor's poor showing against the traditionally weak liberal party in this week's by-elec tion shows that voters will the citizens who welcomed these children and donated coins; the Rotary club and interested individuals whose gifts made possible the pur chase of the Danny Kaye movie which shows how UNICEF helps children in for eign lands; Elliott Becken and the principals who scheduled the showing of the film in 14 schools; the students who made gifts from their student body funds; members of the Applegate Grange who took up a collection at their Octo ber meeting; the young peo ple of the Ashland Presbyter ian church and the Talent Methodist church who organ ized their own projects to col lect for UNICEF; the Mail Tribune, local radio and tele vision stations for their ex cellent publicity: Sniders and Jorgenscns dairies who furnished cartons for the col lection of coins; and the First National- Bank for their an nual service. We greatly appreciate the help of all those who super vised the distribution of the UNICEF cartons to the chil dren. This help was gener ously given by the Sunday school teachers of the First Presbyterian c h u r c h , the Westminster P r e s byterian church, the First mcthodist church, many neighborhood mothers and the Sisters at St, Mary's. The film was shown to several groups at St, Mary's. We are grateful for the sup port of the many people in the community which made this year's UNICEF Hallo ween the most successful to date. More children partici pated and the 1960 collection was almost triple that of 1959. Mrs. Marrs R. Gibbons, Mrs. Rease Braley, Cochairmen. 0 Remind Wilson of ever, to any member of Con gress minded to penalize al leged discrimination against Negroes in the South or de siring, merely, to get his name in the paper as a friend of the Negro. Stranger things have hap pened in Congress than that some member, for his own reason, would challenge the congressional representation of some. Southern states, un der terms of the 15th Amend ment. The wholesale disen franchlsement of Southern Ne groes is more often claimed in large numbers than it is legal ly proven. The claims persist, however, and the 15th Amendment awaits the whim of any leg islator who may believe it would be worthwhile to raise in the new 87th Congress a legislative ruckus of large proportions. Roy Wilkins, executive sec retary of the National Associ ation for the Advancement of not support a feuding party or one favoring unilateral dis armament. The by-election Laborite candidates who fared worst were those who opposed GaitskelDs firm allegiance to NATO. . Diplomatic Blooper: The Nationalist Chinese face a major diplomatic challenge in establishing smooth and cordial relations with the ad ministration of U.S. President elect Kennedy. Since World War II, Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek has found some of his staunchest support ers among the Republicans. Con versely, they fear the Demo cratic party to be too liberal to stand firm against the Com munist Chinese. The National Dick West Children's Meets Bob By DICK WEST United Press International Washington - IUPD - For the first time since I stumbled into the parenthood business, I have become a hero to my own children. Let me tell you the secret of my success.' But first let me explain that children who grow up in become rather blase about the big wheels that spin around here. They don't regard gov ernmcnt officials as be ing very important. Many a night I have gone home from work and dropped names around like confetti. My kinder didn't even look up from the television set. But now, I'm proud to say, I've got them swooning into their apple sauce. They think the old man is pretty hot stuff. The tide turned a night or two ago when I greeted them thusly: "Children, shake the hand that shook the hand of Bobby Darin." "Gosh, daddy-o," they said, using my formal title, "how did you do it?" Just Lucky Well, kids, I'm just lucky I guess. Bobby was in town over the week end to accept a "personality of the year" award from the Variety club, and somebody called me up and asked if I wanted to in terview him. So before you can say Try and it -By BENNETT CERF- TfTIEN CARTER BURGESS became president of T.W.A., " reports Walter Trohan, speakers heaped an hour of praise and adulation on his head. His entire acceptance speech was, "I am sorry, gentlemen, my mother could not be here today. She not only would have enjoyed this impressive ceremony, but she would have believed every word of it!" There was a crisis in Vic tor Borge's home recently. His brother swallowed a pill that made him fifteen years younger and he was only 12 years old when he took it "Say something warm 1 and gracious," pleaded Borge, The boy obliged. He said, "Ones) ous, I'm warm." e e e An Incurable racetrack addict glumly informed his erorrteB fas could not attend the inaugural of the Jamaica season. "My ffcel wife," he mourned, "found where Id hid the bankroll end bleir the entire wad on the grocery bill." 0 1K0, by Beuitt Cart. Ciiurtbutad bj tfing raetunt fiyiulktak ' Colored People (NAACP), es timated last week that about three million Negroes in some Southern states were denied the vote' in the Nov. 8 elec tion. More specifically, Wil kins cited Mississippi regis tration figures.- . He said 8,000 Mississippi Negro citizens were registered of a Negro voting age popu lation of 495,000 in that state. ': Thomas James Norton's "The Constitution of the Unit ed States -Its Sources and Ap plication" is a 319-page book which discusses the Constitu tion sentence by sentence, ex-. plaining why and how it was phrased as it is, and by whom. The book is a short course in basic government equal to a college course in civics. The price: 69 cents paperback, cloth bound $2 postpaid from the Committee for Constitu tional Government, 210 East 43rd St., New York City. ists apparently believed Rich ard Nixon would win the elec tion and allowed . themselves to become careless. Three weeks before the election, the Nationalist foreign ministry is sued a statement calling Ken nedy's views on the off shore islands "ridiculous" and "in credible." Red China Trade: Tokyo observers are pre dicting stepped -up trade be tween Japan and Communist China. An increasing number of ruling Liberal Democrat party members are lining up trips to Red China, apparent ly in the belief the new U.S. administration will take a more flexible view toward Red China. Becomes Hero; Darin "Mack the Knife" I was on my way to Bobby's hotel suite with my faithful Indian companion, Dr. Zhivago, at my side. I took Dr. Zhivago along to serve as my inter preter. When we got there, Bobby's pad looked like a scene from an old Marx Brothers movie. People were going in and out of doors so fast it made me dizzy. Bobby must have a big ger retinue than ex-King Farouk. In the midst of this confu sion stood the bread-winner himself, clad in a tight-fitting silk suit which Dr. Zhivago misiooK tor a matador s cos tume. "They must be getting ready to send him into the bull ring," Dr. Zhivago whis pered. Hard to Convince I explained that the suit represented the latest Am tiental fashion, but Dr. Zhiv ago remained dubious. "If someone sold me a suit like that, I'd sue the tailor," lie stiiu. , Eventually, we were able to draw Bobby into a quiet 1 corner where we had a pleas ant chat. We learned that he has just returned from Italy where he made a movie with Gina Lollobrigida. "How do you like Italian women?" I asked. i m a icmaie lover, Boo by replied. "I don't ask for their ID cards unless they look under 18." I don't remember much else about the interview, but it'i sure great to be able to bask in his reflected glory. Stop Me
