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o Tuesday, September Billy Johnston Wins Utah Golf Rtr CTPUP CKTI m By STEVE SMIIANICH United Press International Salt Lake City-VPD-Stralght hooting Billy Johnston, a part-time performer on the PGA tour, would do well to give up club professional duty and become a regular on the pro tour. The accurate-hitting Provo, Utah, pro showed the big boys how it is done Monday by winning the $22,000 Utah Open championship. The 35-year-old Johnston, who is regular teaching pro at the Provo Timpanogos course, fired a sensational 8-under-par 63 to finish with a 72-hole total of 262-22 strokes under par. The victory gave him a jackpot of $2,800. It was no fluke hometown victory for Johnston, who was playing only his 12th tourna ment this year. In scoring the biggest win of his career, he beat a classy field consisting of 15 of the 18 top money winners. Recuperative Powers Johnston, who worried that he might let the home folks down, showed remarkable re cuperative powers in the pres sure-packed finale. On several occasions the 5-10, 150-pound Donora, Pa., native got into trouble and made remarkable recoveries. His final round in cluded six birdies and an eagle. The eagle came on the par- 5, 480-yard 18th hole and broke a deadlock between Johnston and Bill Collins of Crystal River, Fla. Collins drove into the canyon on the treacherous 18th while John iton drove home a 7-foot putt for an eagle. Collins wound up in third place in the meet with a final round 68 and 265 total. He tied for third with Ken Ven turi of Palo Alto, Calif., who had a final round of 66. Both earned $1,300. Art Wall of Pocono Manor, Fa., had a final round of 66 and a 264 total to finish sec ond. He pocketed $1,900. THERE'S AN EASIER WAY TO GET EXTRA IUI mi SEE COMMERCIAL CREDIT PLAN Why do it the hrd way? 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Falls (SRi; Wallv Nl. son. Riverside (94) vs. W G. Dve C-E (106); C. R. Miller. PGC (92 . Licsicr mcisen. KoseDura- 97 Loren Palmerton. Klamath Falls (Kl vs. Hi Wallir niur.M. arroit nume. Kiverside (92) usuy junea, u-E. (UO); Dr. U. J Cox, Klamath Falls (93) vs. C. J Rademacher. Bend (110). Second Flight . Glen Fabrick, Med ford (86) vs, Li. S. Baler. Astoria lARi- T)r Ttnn Hood. Oswego (871 vs. Clarence humeri. ,-e, tain; ur. can H. cone, Royal Oaks (861 vs. Lor an Finch. Riverside (89): Dick Bourns. Coos Bay (87) vs. Dr. Sante Caniparoll, C-E (90); Geo. Stacy. Medford 86) vs. Don Stokes, Corvallis (88); James Flynn, Riverside (87) vs. Sid Boots. C-E (90); Taylor Treece. Ri verside (87) vs. Gordon Wilson, Oswego (89); Geo. Larsen, River side (87) vs. Clarence Stark, River side (91). Championship Al Remlinger, Hood River (78) vs. Ralph Lomax, Riverside (81); H. A. Milby. Coos Bay (79) vs. Chas. Wells, Forest Hills (84): Mar vin Clark, Grnts Pass (77) vs. Dr. M. S. Rosenblatt, Tualitin (83); Moon Mullis. Klamath Falls (80) vs. Dom Provost, Medford (85); W. H. Blakely, Waverly (seeded) vs. Vern Garrabrant. Hood River (S-l? nI Milne. Salem (79) vs. Gene Bow man. Waverlv (83 ): Frank Steneer. Riverside (78) vs. Moose Clabaugh, The Dalles (84); Ted Diamond, ibu) vs. Marion Headiey, Ri verside (85). (Class A A) Fourth Fllcht Stan Caster. Oswoin f941 v Rpn t-ouara. Eugene (7); Koiana hud bard. Medford (96) vs. R. T. Moore, Waverly (100): Tanfe Charneskvi, Eugene (95) vs. J. S. Savior, P.G.C. : Leo J. uonneiiv. c-E (971 va. Harold Lounsbury, Eugene (101). accoiiu riiE.ni. Chas. Pallett. Jr.. P.G.C (87) vs. Neal Cotty, Riverside (90); Harry Reader, C.S. (88) vs. John Houston, Klamath Falls (92k: Geo. Birkin- shaw, P.G.C. (88) vs. E. S. Robin son. Klamath Falls (91); Clifford Esseltvne. Pendleton (89) vs. Dr. F, E. Fowler, Astoria (93); Sarge Gething, Riverside (01) vs. E. B. Hogan, Bend (87); Farley Elliott, Bend (89) vs. Ed Costigan. Long view (93); Geo. Udy. La Grande, (88) vs. Eugene Ricker. Medford (92): Gus Clerin. Riverside 190 vs Gus Anerson. Klamath Falls (0). amp ion ship j-arry tjasseii, uranu fas (79) :. Harry Gustafson. Salem (84): Rudy Taggesell (C-E (82) vs. Harry Miller. Salem (85); Erroll A. Mur hard. P.G.C. (80) vs. Earle Voor- hels, Grnts Pass (84); C. R. Sum ner, P.G.C. (82) vs. Emil Matson. Coos Bay (86); Ted Fleskes, Roval Oaks (79) vs. Art Nikand. C-E (84); Leon J. Ryan, P.G.C. (82) vs. Dr. Merle Taylor, Waverly (85); Carl Fahlstrom, Longview (81) vs. Ralph E. Brown, Royal Oaks (84); Maurine Eben, Oswego (82) vs. Sam Cole, Riverside (86). llsiaSS AAA) Second Flight John Moffat. Medford (92) vs. Ralph Kletzins (101); Adam Kil Patrick, C-E (97) vs. L. D. Ste phens, Klamath Falls (105); Ted Fish, Klamath Falls (94) vs. W. H. Masters. P.G.C. (104); J. W. Kerns, Klamath Falls (98) vs. A. E. Mills, Waverlv (112): J. R. Shaw. Klamath Falls (93) vs. T. T. Georges, Tua latin 1 104); Sidney Ward. Spring field (97) vs. C. R. Ciouid. Lons- view (102); Carl Armpriest, Salem (96) vs. Glen Kibbe. C-E (105): Ed Bozeman. C-E (101) vs. Fred Cock- ell, C-E (116). unampionsmp 8:37 Ward Cummins. Rosebure (80) vs. W. E. Naylor. Bend (88): Bob Smith. P.G.C. (86) vs. Harold Murch, P.G.C. (92): 8:45 Dr. Rob ert L. Fox, Riverside (82) vs. Sam Tyler, Eugene (90); Ralph D. Finch, Astoria (96) vs. Andy Wiant, C-E, (92): 8:32 e. . KricKson. W-E (seeded) vs. Roy Hixson, Eugene (89); Walter Fisher, Rose burg (87) ur. kov Keynoias, aaicm mzi; 9:00 Drew Clerin, Riverside (84) Clarence Urey. Eugene (90): James D. Shaw. C-E (87) vs. Amos King. Salem (92). - Miss Sieqmund I Wins Women's Medal Honors Eugene - flJPD - Shirley Sieg- mund of Eugene won medalist honors here Monday in the qualifying round of the Ore gon Women's Golf Association tournament. Miss Siegmund, who won! the recent Southern Oregon crown, shot a 78. Mrs. T. S. Harrison Jr. of Portland had I an 80 to finish second. I Mrs. Lee Darby of Port land and Eugene's Mrs. G. Caldcrwood shot 81s. Defending champion Mrs. Frank Fisk of Portland auto matically qualified. Match play began today. Finals are due Friday, Pessimism View Taken at WSC Pullman, Wash. - HOT -Coach Jim Sutherland waxed pessimistic after watching his Washington State squad drill on pass defense. Seems the Cougars face Stanford Saturday night and the Indians can generally be counted on for 30 or so passes per game. Sutherland said he was not pleased with the young and untried secondary. "Our first test could be our worst," he said. EX BEVO DIES Portland - (WD - Charles E. High, 60, one time outfielder for the Portland Beavers, died Sunday of a heart attack. He played with Portland from 1922 through 1925. HUNTERS And PILOTS USGS TOPOGRAPHIC QUADRANGLE MAPS All Scales Complete Coverage on all of Oregon and Northern California. USC & GS AERONAUTICAL CHARTS All Scales Wide Coverage In Stock. : Latest Dated Charts available. Check lists. OFFICIAL AGENTS U.S. GOVERNMENT MAPS It CHARTS rt tt?' 1 t w-JrT !vT' V4 s!toi$s8'A i A ' 1) ri "rf k? Vr-J ' 'til WAVES AT GALLERY Charles (Chick) Evans Jr., 70, Chicago, 111., is shown waving to the gallery that gave him a huge ovation during Monday's play at the National Am ateur golf tournament in St. Louis. Evans, Fanfare Black Tornado footballers will aim for Medford high's fifth straight grid victory over Marshfield of Coos Bay when the two clubs meet here Fri day night. Medford trimmed the Pirates 39 to 21 and 13 to 6 in conflicts last year after 3 to 0 and 7 to 0 nods in 1958. You may not agree with the pollsters, but you can bet they'll rate the winner of the Medford-Marshfield mix No. 1 In the state. No conference or district title bearing is at tached to the hassle. Yet, pres tige is a mighty big issue. The two schools have only the one match billed against each other this season. They will meet a second time, how ever (in state quarterfinals), providing they win their re spective district banners. HEFTY LINE We heard the other day that Marshfield's line aver ages 20S pounds. So we didn't hesitate to go to the adding machine with the probable lineups reported io us by Kenn Hess, sports ed itor of the Coos Bay World. That 205 is an understate ment by a few pounds for the offensive line. The fig ure is 208 pounds. Defen sively, the line will average 201. Behemoth of the Bucca neers is Josh Mattox, 6-3, 253 -pound tackle transfer NFF Picks Nine For Grid Honor New Brunswick, N. J.-lliPD- Sid Luckman. an All-America quarterback, and his coach at Columbia, Lou Little are among the nine new inductees to the Football Hall ot c ame, it was announced today by Chester J. Laroche, president of the National Football foundation. Luckman, who played for Columbia 1936-38, was a dy namic triple threat best known'for his great passing. Little, an All-America player himself at Pennsylvania in 1919, was head football coach at Columbia from 1930 to 1956. Others named to the Hall of Fame were Charles (Ki) Aid rich, Texas Christian center; Fred (Buzz) Borrics, Navy halfback; Gordon C. Locke, Iowa fullback and quarter back; John Lujack, Notre Dame quarterback; Clyde (Bulldog) Turner, Hardin Simmons center; Neil Snow, Michigan end and fullback, and Charles Gelbert, Pennsyl vania end and halfback. Snow and Gelbert are now deceased. Chargers Fill Linebacker Gap Los Angeles - IBPD - Los Angeles Charger Coach Sid Gillman, attempting to fill gaps created by injuries to a pair of his defensive stars, has moved Henry Wallace and Bob Laraba to line - backer spots. The Chargers' top two line backers, Charlie Bueckman and Hubert Bobo were in jured last Saturday night in a game against the Dallas Texans. ' Swems 217 E. Main By DICK JIWETT Mail Tribune Sports Editor from Independence, Mo. Josh, a senior, was to have been captain of his high school team at Independ ence this season. He has a brother, Mike, 6-6, and 210, more inclined toward bas ketball and track, but now out for gridiron quarter, back. Dave Hansen, 227 tackle, is second heviest on the Marshfield roster, Larry Ro sacker, guard, is 213. Carl Jeff, tackle, 210, and John Layton, center, 208. Lighter Medford will have to rely much on its speed. INTERDISTRICT GAMES There will be non-counting rivalry matching schools of District 5 against those of District 6 this Friday. In ad dition to the Medford-Marshfield mix this opposition will be North Bend at Grants Pass and Roseburg at Ashland. Medford, Ashland and GP are district 5 clubs. In the first of the action between the two districts, last week end, Rose burg whacked Grants Pass 28 to 7. NOT MUCH HANDICAP . Quote from Glen Pree cott,, sports writer for the Ashland Daily Tidings: The rest of the Southern Oregon Conference shapes up pretty much as usual, Despite the bear stories emanating from Fred Spie gelber's Medford Black Tor nado stamping grounds, the Red and Black is a heavy favorite to repeat as confer ence champ and could pos sibly go all the way. Spie gelberg has only 31 letter men out of a squad of around a hundred, but de spite this handicap, we don't see anyone in this area beating the Tornado. Grants Pass and Klamath Falls should be about a standoff for the number two spot, with Crater and Ashland engaged in a ding-dong bat tle to stay out of the league cellar. Both the Griislies and Comets were hit ex tremely hard by graduation, but in both cases, it appears that the vacancies will be filled by adequate per. formers. PELS TO BE STRONGER It's the opinion of this de partment that Klamath Falls this season will figure more strongly in the Southern Ore gon circuit race than it did in the four previous campaigns. The Pels tied for third in 1956, were In the cellar alone the next two seasons and shared the bottom last year. Medford in contrast has been champion or co-champion of the league and district every year since 1954 Tested Concrete? fYOU BET! Radio Dispatched? ALWAYS! Finest Ingredients? AS USUAL! Ready Mix Concrete Microphone Milhoon LININGER'S I SP 3-7555 - NO 4-1217 - MU 5-8121 Sand - Gravel - Coneret Pip lWsjWsslssBss,"s."",, MEDFORD MAIL TRIBUNE, MEDFORD, ORE. who was eliminated during the first day's play, won the tournament in 1916 and 1920 and was competing in it for the 48th time yesterday. (UPI Telephoto) Mild Upset Prevalent At N-A Test St. Louis, Mo.-!UPD-Only 15 'name" players still held berths in the 60th National Amateur golf tournament to day after a first round marked by mild upsets which put four exempt stars on the sidelines. Another name" defending champion Jack Nickalus, near ly was knocked out, but he sank a four foot pressure putt on the 18th green for a one up victory over Jack Dona hue, a Des Moines, Iowa, in surance man playing in the Amateur for the 13th time. St. Louis -CPU - Two Ore gon golfers, Dick Yost and Jerry Cundari of Portland, advanced in the National Amateur Golf tournament with first round victories Monday. Four Oregon golfers had opening round byes and the three others ef the state's nine - man delegation were beaten. ' Yost scored 3 and 2 vic tory over Thomas Stephen son of Kansas City end Cun dari defeated Carl Carlson of Cloquet, Minn.. 4 and 3. Bruce Cudd of Portland dropped a 2 and I match to Gene Andrews of Whitiier, Calif.) Portland's Bob Wols born lost to Bob Fay of Evansville, Ind., 4 and 3, and Tom Shaw, also of Port land, was topped by John Spray, 3 and 2. Advancing with byes were Chuck West, Tom Lit jeholm and Bob Smith, all of oPrtland, and Allen Jen sen, Corvallis. Chick Evans, twice a cham pion of the event and playing at the age of 70 for the 48th time in the tourney was bounced in only 12 holes by H. M. Haverstick, Lancaster, Pa. But eliminated with him were Australian Open Cham pion Bruce Devlin, Mexican champion Juan Estrada, and a 1959 semi-finalist, H. Dudley Wysong, Dallas, Tex. Otherwise the form sheet ran true, with 72 matches scheduled, the time table ran far behind schedule and only 71 were completed before darkness halted the last match, between Gene Dahl bender Jr., Atlanta, Ga., and Donald D. Stickney, Colum bus, Ohio, with Stickney one up and two holes to play. Of the field of 144 players, only seven were able to beat par. Argentina champion Jorge Ledesma, was two un der for 12 holes, Fred Ram mer, Detroit, and Gene An drews, Whittier, Calif., two under for 17, and James Jack son, Kirkwood, Mo., two un der for 18. Bill Hyndman III, Abing ton, Pa., and Tommy Aaron, Gainesville, Ga., were one un- Akin Drills? Raiders For Myrtle Bowl Ashland-Condltioning and defense are the order of the week in the Southern Oregon college football camp as they prepare for the Shriners' Myr tle Bowl game In Coos Bay next Saturday afternoon against Sacramento State col' lege. After reviewing the films and assistant coaching reports of the Red-White gama scrim' mage Sunday afternoon, head coach Al Akins was highly shocked at the lack of en- thusiasim and poor condition ing. By halftlme the two squads could barely manage to run up to the line, and Akins plans to remedy this by next Saturday. SOC coaches were able to single out backfield runners for praise, but in the line the story was reversed badly. Al though the opening week's work was devoted to mainly offense, Akins still believed the tackling drills were not effective nor the blocking ex ercises. SOC's "Mighty Mite" did perhaps the biggest job of the afternoon. John Mills, who weighs a mere 135 pounds ran 50 yards for a touchdown, recovered a fumble, and in tercepted a pass not to men tion his desperate last chance tackle to save a touchdown for the Red team which won 18-9. Eldon Francis, Del Brood, and Syl Hunt were also sin gled out for their work. All ran especially well according to Akins while Hunt showed coolness under pressure. The Roseburg frosh had to pick the ball off the ground twice in punt situations to get the kick away without It being blocked. End Picture Bright SOC's end picture appear ed especially bright to all spectators with ail-American candidate Gordy Carrigan ac counting for nearly half a dozen receptions. The last came in the final five seconds of the game to carry for 55 yards, two short of the goal line. Dave Hugos, Howard Hart- man, and John Dictz account ed for almost 10 more as John Buck and Frank Ballard continued to hit the mark Hughes got a chance at auar- temacK only to complete two ol four tries. Injured quarterback Doug Olsen continues to Improve, but his avallaballty for Sat urday Is doubtful. Ballard, who was in camp to give nis injured shoulder a try, came up with extreme pain and was forced out of action for the remainder of the sea son. This cut the q-back corp to Buck and freshman Ken Halass who turned out three days late and has yet to polish his knowledge of the Raider system. Hughes could be work ed in if the occasion calls, but he is already proving him self to be a valuable end. der for 17 and Bulen Coker, San Diego, Calif., one under for 14. Four others equalled par. Today 1ZB players will tan gle in the 64 second round matches, 56 of them moving into action for the first time after drawing first. , NatwreV finest bourbon AgecL to perfection! THI OLD HERMITAGE COMPANY, LOUISVILLE, KY. Tornado-Pirate Tussle Highlight of A battle between (fc'o peren nial titans heads the high school gridiron fare among schools in this section of the state this Friday. This struggle brings Marsh field of Coos Bay to Medford. Crater will make its varsity debut by entertaining Eagle Point at Central Point. Ash land goes to Roseburg. Grants Pass will be host to North Bend and Klamath encounters North Salem. LA Winning Combination Must Come From Staff Of Newly Hired Coaches (This Is another dispatch on the prospects of profes sional football clubs for the 1960 season.) Los Angeles - (UPD - The Los Angeles Rams have a winning combination this sea son. Well, it was a winning combination in 1951 when the team won the National Football league champion ship. The 1951 team was quar- terbacked by Bob Waterfield. He's head coach now headed for his first season and he's called on some of his 1951 teammates for help as assist ant coaches - Don Paul, the 1951 captain and line-backer, and Tom Fears, one of a pair great of great pass-catching ends. The other end was Elroy (Crazy Legs) Hirsch. Hirsch, not by chance, is general manager of the Rams. He replaces Pete Rozelle, who moved up to NFL commis sioner. Ram owners, of whom there are many, agreed on one thing at the end of last season-thcy fired head coach Sid Gillman. The 1059 team had a 2-10 record. Waterfield was hired in January and a few weeks later his old buddy, Hirsch, was signed to a three yr contract as general man ager. Matson, Arnett Back Waterfield has all the ball carriers Gillman had. He's got OUle Matson who did not live up to expectations last season: Jon Arnett, the flashy broken-field expert; Tom Wil son, the reliable six-yard man: and Joe Marconi, ; a better-than-average fullback. The Rami have largely the same personnel except for rookies - that they had last year. so. it seems, the winning combination must come from the coaching staff. Waterfield declared the No. quarterback Job open at the start of training ana Billy Wade, the six-year vet eran, had to take a back seat to Buddy Humphrey who sat on the bench last year in his I first season. Humphrey, the nation's leading college passer in 1958 at Baylor, took charge like a seasoned signal-caller in exhibition games and won the starting job. D e f e n s I v ely Waterfield finds the same weakness Gillman did - in the second ary. The veteran aerenciors are Will Sherman and Don Bur roughs but Waterfield needs some good cornermen. He may come up with them in Straight Bourbon from Kentucky Begin with the ripest golden grain., .add pure , Kentucky limestone water and time's magic. Then 'JJ taste Old Herrjitage... Nature' finest bourbon. Week End Four Rogue league schools. in addition to Eagle Point, will have non-league tangles. Phoenix journeys to Brook ings and Rogue River to Can- yonvllle while Illinois Valley entertains Glide. Henley will go to Lakeview which will join this A-2 district when basketball season begins. On Saturday evening at Medford, St. Mary's begins its District 5B defense against Sacred Heart a pair of rookies - Charlie Britt of Georgia and Don E 1 1 e r s I c k of Washington State. Up front defensively, Wa terfield lias the same old stal warts including lineback Les Richter and the rough, tough Inside man, Lou Michaels. At end, Gene Brito, the for mer Washington Redskin star, may be of some help. Spartans Want Norton to Play San Jose, Calif. - (UPD - San Jose State coach Bob Tiche nal hopes that Ray Norton will take his year of eligibili ty with the Spartan grid team this year. Norlon. after a disaDnoint- ing showing in the sprints at tile Rome Olympics, was quot ed as saying he would not try out for the San Francisco Forty Nincrs, who hold draft rights to him. Tlchenal said Monday he hopes this means that Norton, who eventually plans to coach, will be out for the Spartan squad this fall. IIEVi1 '60 DELUXE 4 NOT STRIPPED Bank Terms If you ar thort of ch, or If you think you wo too much on your car ttt ui! Wi hivi holpad hunrfroott with thofr down payment! or monthly payment! and wa can hefp you. - i rp.h.n I , ' In. KENTUCKY STRAIGHT BOURBON WHISKEY, 86 PROOF Six Hoop Prospects Register at Portland Portland - IUPII - A half dozen outstanding freshman basketball prospects register ed at the University of Port land Monday for the fall se mester. The group included Jim Ol son and Jim Dortch of Port land, Joe Morrman of Salem, Roy Jerrigan of New York, John Unwelling of Los An geles and Steve Anstett of Ta-coma. RVRC Entrants Nab Retriever Trial Stakes Medford entrants, repre senting Rogue Valley Re tricver club, had two winners over the week end in ilia Shasta Cascade club's field trials at the game commission management area near Klam ath Falls. Kip's Nik Nak, owned and handled by Kenneth Denmnn, took the qualifying stake, and Git N Go Ace, owned audi handled by Everett McGraw, took the derby event. Dr. Earl Vcrsteeg's Velvet was fourth in the open. Ver steeg, of Cave Junction, is an RVCC member as is Tom Tom Rickard, Medford, whosa Long Tom's Timber Topper gained a certificate of merit in the derby. Black Cougar, owned by Jim Casey, Palo Alto, Calif., won the open. A formerly Medford-owned dog was second-Princess Black Belle, now the property of Mrs. John Preston, Hillsborough, Calif. The dog was previously own ed by Earl Wescott, formerly of Medford, who now lives at McChord Air Force Base, Washington. KNICKS PLAYER RETIRES New York - IUPII - Dick Gar maker, backcourt star for tha New York Knickerbockers, has decided to retire from tha National Basketball associa tion after five seasons. RAMBLER - DOOR "6" EQUIPPED WITH Automatic Radio or . Heater . WhitawalU Outside , ' Mirror lnderieaf Glaze ONLY 43 Month With Normal Down PS l WINTUCKY ' II