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'Medford Mail T The Weather ' Forerart: Fair tonight and Frlda; ; no changp In temperature. Tcmivrature I Highest esterday HI urt this morning .......... 34 ! UNE AWARDED Pulitzer Prize FOR 1934 Thirtieth Year MEDFORD, OREGON, THURSDAY, MAY 2, 1935, FATE F No. 35. IBS By PAIL MALLON Copyright, 933, By Paul Mallon WASHINGTON, May 2. What Pres ident Roosevelt told Chairman Mc 5 wain of the house military com mittee about published secret war test t m o n y wa plenty. But what he said privately at a White Hours dinner the night before was even more. Apparent ly the president has not been so greatly aroused about anything In a long time. The affair has deep roots. The McSwaln forces and the war de (Al l. MALL ON partment "general staff have been more or less openly at odds for a lonr; time. It may not be true that Mr McSwaln let the matter out Inten tionally, but you can never make Chief cf Staff MatArthur believe any thing different. These two misunder stand each other with deep and re lentless feeling. It wo a General MacArthur, as well as the state department officials, who helped to Inspire Mr. Roosevelt's wrath, if It really needed any Inspir ation. What made MacArthur red-headed was that the published secret told the world the weakest points of American defense. In fact. It disclosed how any foreign power could best go about, attacking the United States. For Instance, it contained a list of vital areas of attack, mentioning oil refineries, pipe lines and water routes. Even more, it told how the attack could be instituted easily if any for eign country would secretly send over a couple of freight-fueling ships and establish temporary air bases at points nearby. Then the bombers could come along later In a hurry, pick up fuel, and go to work, before we knew what they were about. Perhaps some of this has been fig ured out by some of the foreign pow ers. But If they did not know it be fore, they do now. These roots were neatly covered up In the public handling of the mat ter. The army officer whose secret testimony was disclosed was. Induced to make a statement that his testi mony represented only his personal opinions. This hardly fooled any for eign military men or anyone else. All It did was to lay the diplomatic dust which was being kicked up, mainly from Canada. What made the Canadian angle so embarrassing for the state depart ment is that the non-militarized frontier between this country and Canada Is one of the diplomatic pets of the department." We are forever calling the attention of other nations to it as an ideal for them to folio To have the army make it appear that we were contemplating secret air bases there was, to say the least, ex asperating The worst of it was that the Can adian government requested an ex planation almost at the very moment that Under-Secretary of Stat Phil lips was unveiling a tablet here com memorating the signing, 118 years ago. of the Rush-Bagot agreement, whereby the United States and Can ada agreed never to militarise their frontiers. The fundamental fact of the situ ation is that Canada and every other nation secretly makes military pre parations to meet any eventuality. Everyone knows that military men have to keep In mind the possibility that treaties my be broken. In this Instance, any other nation might well use Canada as a base for air attack. Just na Germany used Belgium (in violation of treaties) for the attack on Prance. At least this possibility must be considered. For that reason, the incident may not have serious consequences. You cannot blame every war office In the world for laughing. A republican presidential posfiibl" Ity was traveling In the mid-west a few days aio with a new dealer. They were brought together by the drought relief business, not friendship. Said the republican, by way of con- (Continued od Page Six) SIDE GLANCES by TRIBUNE REPORTERS Glen i Rouch-Dry i Fsbrirk tftklnc snot hrr ihawr terbacca to bolster n:rrte!f through a bfatinft at softbaX A H. Banweii winntnc a pin for i ni. k-;. and actua.l mkins IT P :rv:-p Kir.flrfd. .'t',a'r Vk 'ni: for a pn:r of pe. H-Vnr Ouy poii'innc t':-e jnv.dc v-:r iff th M-M prv ! nel"" -' in POULTRY CASE IN SUPREME COURT iS TEST 0FVALID1TY Officials Present Arguments Congressional Action; Looms U. S. Chamber' Commerce Hits Entire Act; WASHINGTON, May 3. (AP) The blue eagle. In its present form, went on trill for Its life today In the j supreme court. ; Arguments In the Schecter live ' poultry case from New York select- j ed by the government to test the 1 validity of the recovery legislation were opened late this afternoon by Stanley Reed, the solicitor general. He contended the act was constitu tional. Donald Rlchberg, chairman of the NBA board, sat by hla side ready to speak later. Arguments against the legislation were due to be delivered tomorrow. Earlier In the day. an attempt by some senate leaders to force througli a resolution extending NRA with some modifications until next April was threatened with failure after the finance committee had rejected all attempts to change the measure. WASHINGTON, May 2. (AP) After adopting a sort pa of resolutions attacking virtually every phase of the new deal legislative program, the chamber of commerce of the United States today selected as its new president Harper Sibley. Rochester. N. Y.. bunker. ripcr1hvi hv hl soclates as somewhat critical of the administration policies. Friend of Roosevelt. The new official, a. ncttmnnl friend of President Roosevelt, succeeds Henry I. Harriman who headed the business organization for the past three years. He advocated a middle- of-the-road policy. Sibley, in an interview, declined to comment specifically on whether (Continued on Page Seven) ON SOLINSKY APPEAL Attorney George M. Roberts of this city, who, with Attorney George Neu ner of Portland was defense counsel In the trial of E. O. Sollnsky. former superintendent of Crater Lake na tional park, found guilty by a federal Jury at Portland late Tuesday of de frauding the government, would make no statement regarding possible ap peal of the case upon his arrival In Medford this morning. Roberts said that he "has not de cided," and said that he will not make a decision until after sentence Is passed Saturday. BANDITS' LOOT FOUND PROVIDENCE. R. 1 May 2. ( AP) Recovery of Jewelry valued at thou sands of dollars and believed to be part of the loot obtained In a 327. 000 Jewel robbery at Gloucester laat year, was announced late today by U. S. Attorney J. Howard McGrath. The Jewelry, McGrath said, Was found Monday at the Warwick strong hold of Carl Rettlch. alleged gang leader, now under arrest. AVIATOR KILLED WHEN WING FALLS OFF SHIP LAMAR. Colo.. May 2 (AP) Perry Hatchet. 32-year old aviator of Lamar, was killed today when the wing of his plane apparently fell off in mld-alr six miles west of here while he was enroute to Pueblo. ROSS, Cal., May 2. (AP) J. K. Armeby, founder of the California Packing corporation and Its president for many years, died at his home here today of pneumonia. He was 68. Extra !It Rained Today In Southwest Dust Bowl SPRINGFIELD. Colo.. May 2 fAP) Raint Ra.'nl It rained today in the little d.ist bowl of the routhwrst! People tumbled from beds before dawn to see the ble drops splash In the street. Small children, who never had seen a downpour before, were frightened as it beat loudly on roofs. Three-tenths of an inch fell, the flr?t moisture In Baca county s1n-e Jn-:a:v and the firearm stride amount in three year. It -fifcvi in almost a fa-t a U fell but earlv this morning tnere rere still a fe- puddles here chil dren p'.v ed happily. Farmers said i n" "ire IistiIv enciien to t-.'.t-f:: them bv.t evn b-dy acreM u . (: -'-ms nr :.- Tl'.e I.T.xrr'.-H::ii;d, Ba county Complains Because She Looks Like Mae IK Si Evelyn Oleon, 22-year-old Milwau kee beauty operator, complained In a letter to Mae West that, became the resembles the film actress, au tograph hunters make her life mis erable. "At first I was a little flattered but now It is nearly drlv Ing me crazy," she said. This is Evelyn. (Associated Press Photo) COUNTY ASKED TO PROVIDE AID FOR FJ The county court yesterday after noon heard pleas for, and then took under advisement, an application for county aid for Mrs. Edith Robert! n Banks, wife of L. A. Banks, former local agitator, now serving a life sen tence in state prison for murder. The application was heard upon the second anniversary date of the start of Banks' trial at Eugene May 1, 1033. Friends of Mrs. Banks, now a resi dent of Salem, presented pleas In her behalf. The application was made under section 27-301 of the Oregon laws, which provides that the counties shall provide not to exceed 2o per month for the minor dependent of persons confined In, state Institu tions, and not to exceed 916 for each additional minor child. The law, ac- (Continued on Pagi Five.) PORTLAND. Ore., May 2. ( AP) The arrest early today of Bernle Hcckman, 23. members uf the Brcw- I cry nurkrin uiuuii. iuiiuwcu a iiew otunreaK nere last nigni oecween members of that union and the teamsters' union. For months the two affiliates of the American Fed eration of Labor have been quarrel ing bitterly over which has Juris diction over certain brewery em ployes. Police headquarters announced that Heckman was ordered held for the department of Justice. Arresting officers said they found a shotgun and a revolver in Ills possession. Nominate Hawkins As Klamath P. Af WASHINGTON. May 2. (API- Postmasters nominated today includ ed: Oregon San ford Adler. Baker; Burt E. Hawkins, Klamath Falls. PIERRE. S. D., May 2. (AP) I D Weeks. 33. state superintendent of ; public instruction, was appointed to- ! day by the state board of regents as president of the University of South Dakota, succeeding Dr. Herman G. James, who resigned recently to be come president of Ohio university. ' weekly newspaper, put out an extra l edition today "All About the Storm." j The weather man, Will Spurgeo. ! slept through the rain. I "I heard some pattering on the ' window but thought It Just another ' dust F.torm swirling In." he sid. ! Excitement prevailed at Lamar, ! Colo.. 30 miles north of here at the iipper end of the dust bowl, when the term atnKk last nlcht. Town folk ran Into the streets to feei the rain psttT down on their heads ann i shoulders. Ths sfnrm w "spotted" nd ap parently covered only a small porMoii nt the dust bowl of trn Kansas niithewtTn Colorado and th Okis : ai.fl 'I" .. -. .Ulrv part o: fi-i-t ar f : r Mexico io r- , ccned rain or snow. 'HAUPTMANN JURY ifl IT SEQUESTERED Mi jCHARGEHOUNSEL 'Undue and Improper Influ ence Seen by Defense Court to Decide Charge On Briefs Submitted TRENTON, N. J., May 3. (AP The court of errors and appeals to ! day denied the application of attor I neys for Bruno Richard Hauptmann j to take testimony supporting Its al j legations that the Jury which con victed him of the Lindbergh baby murder was not properly sequestered. The court, however, granted the i lawyers permission to Include In the record the opening addresses to the jury of Attorney General David T. Wllentz, chief of prosecution, and Prosecutor Anthony M. Hnuck. Jr., f Hunterdon county, and Wllentz's aimmatlon. TRENTON, N. J.. May 2. fAP) ttruno Richard Hnuptmann's counsel charged today the Jury which con victed him of the Lindbergh baby murder waa not properly sequestered. resulting In "undue and Improper Influence" upon It by persons out side the court's Jurisdiction. Counsel appealed to the New Jer sey court of errors and appeals for permission to take testimony to sup port Its allegations. A motion for oral argument was denied, and the court announced it would decide the case later today on briefs. In their brief, the defense attor neys, Egbert Rosecrans, Frederick A. Pope and c. Lloyd Fisher, charged (Continued on Page Seven) BODY OF VETERAN Jl KELSO, Wash., May 2. (AP) In vestigation of the slaying of a man Identified as A. V. Jensen of Port land, a world war veteran who had been on relief rolla there, whose body was found In a slough a mile and a half south of Kalama late yesterday, was pressed by Cowlitz and Thurston county authorities today. The Identification was announced by the sheriff's office at Olympla last night, after Codwlltz county deputy sheriffs had traced a card near the body, bearing the names of H. H. Hy mer, route 2, box 361, Olympla. The body bore numerous Injuries, Includ ing a small hole In the back of the head, a broken leg. and It was wrap ped in papers, they reported. MOVING CAPITOL PORTLAND. May 2. ( AP) The Portland Chamber of Commerce hrfs taken no part. Is taking no part and will take no part in what It describ ed as any misguided effort to move Oregon's statehouse from Salem. Representative Victor Nelson of Multnomah county has proposed the new statehouse should be built in Portland. Walter W. R. May. manager of the Chamber of Commerce here, said "that would be the most foolish thing that could be done. We would be strongly against any efforts to move the capttol from Salem." NDIAN WITNESS SAYS PORTLAND. May 2. (AP) Gabriel Baker, Sioux Indian, star witness lor the federal government against Wil lie Williams, 18, Klamath Indian, charged with slaying Charlie Cowan, 17. Modoc Indian, testified In federal court today he saw Williams fire the shot which killed Cowan. Cowan was shot to death on No vember 22 during a drinking brawl on the Klamath Indian reservation Baker was in bed when the shoot ing broke out, he testified. WILL BE HERE SUNDAY C. C- Hockley, state public work, engineer, In rharee of P. W. A. work In Oregon. 111 be at the MM ford hotel Sunday, Mav fl. according to word received by Prd SrheffH, city superintendent. Any persons who have p. w. A project to submit mav rf In touch . .Mi .'V, Hrcklev Nt ttittl time, it n iTno .nrc!. and he will riiKUss plan. uh thm. Youngster Dies of Fright When Tooth Is Pulled JOHNSTOWN, Pa.. May 2. (AP) Mike Shenselynec. aged Just six, la dead dead the doctors say be cause he was frightened at having a tooth pulled. Mike's mother, Mrs. Metro Shen selynec, took him to Dr. R. O. Stringer In Wlnber yesterday but when Mike refused a local anaes thetic the dentist declined to pro ceed. The mother. Coroner H. A. Zim merman said, told tho dentist to go ahead "anyway." One tooth was pulled and Mike Jumped out' of his chair, holding his breath, the coroner said. At a Wlnber hospital physicians decided death was caused by asphyxiation brought about by fright. IN LAMSON TRIAL DEFENSE TARGET SAN JOSE. Calif., May 2. (AP) In the second day of arguing to save David Lamson from tho gallows for wife murder, Defense Attorney Edwin McKcnzlo launched Into a vigorous attack on prosecution medi cal testimony In Lamson's second murder trial today. His argument la expected to continue through to morrow. Dr. Frederick Proescher, county pathologist who testified for the prosecution, In his testa Indicated bloodstains on the Iron pipe found in the bonfire Lamson was tending the morning his wife was found dead In t'.e bathroom, waa special target of t.ie fire. "What a careless witness this Dr. Proescher lsl" exclaimed McKenaie. "I have had 22 years of trial experience but In alt of It I have never known a witness who changed his story quitft as frequently as did he' McKenzie insisted the cloth con tained only paint stains, that it was "Innocent cloth," and that the piece of pipe also was "Innocent," Dr. A. M. Moody, San Francisco pathologist and state experiment witness, was also scored for his tes timony about the cloth. Dr. Moody was talking "in a field not his own," that of biochemistry, the lawyer as serted. He said the testimony was impeached by. the physician's admis sion he hnd never seen hematopor phyrin crystals, which are "all im portant In blood tests." Dr. Jesse Carr, another San Fran cisco prosecution witness, drew the lawyer's fire for his statement that there were "about 000 elements." "The only two points In chemistry that Dr. Carr mentioned are abso lutely and completely wrong," said McKenzie. YIELDS TO TOXOID The ntcond of n series of statements from Medford physicians on Immu nisation of children against disease, whleh Is being stressed during Child Health Week by the Jackson Coun ty Health association, was released today. It Is from R. W. Sleetcr. M. D.: "One of the most outstanding and most successful accomplishments In the field of preventative medicine has been the perfection of the treat ment used for the Immunization against diphtheria. This has been done with the preparation 'Toxoid given In two or three doses. It has no reaction even though used In Infants and will Immunize the child against diphtheria for life. It Is not expens ive and should be given early In childhood because It takes from J-3 months following lu Injection to de velop Immunity." E LUMBER HEN 10 STRIKE. IN PORTLAND PORTLAND, Ore., May 2. ryp, With at least 1,200 lumber mill and ramp employes already out on strike for higher wae and shorter hours. A walkout of about 500 others in Portland mill was expected hourly today. There were persistant rumors that the next walkout would be in th Portland plants of the Inman-Pcul-sn mill and the Eastern -Western j mill. The former employes about 250 ! men, and the latter somewhat more J than 200. AMELIA POSTPONES HOP j MEXICO TO NEW YORK MRXICO. D. P.. My 2 (API j Amelia Karhart, famed American wo msn flier, early this afternoon post 1 ponM the stsrt of her proposed nnn-ft-p flight to New York which had ne-n tentathely fet for 1 p. m. local time, 2 p. m I 8 T. TEST MONT S3? - K ilSH-GERMAN WORKMEN START SPOKESMEN TELL i ! CLEARING DEBRIS OF ARMS PLANS!lji BURNED CAPITOL Gocring Says Air Force Is -pV Match for Any Foe ' j FTW ft Ramsay MacDonald Re-1 i J M veals Adequate Defense PARIS. May 2. (AP) A dls nutch from Nancy t the news paper l.e IMntln I mi I put said tier mnn chutii polUel (picked police) were stationed along lite Rhlite lamls rtrmllltnrlzfi one rrnily to occupy It In violation of the Versailles treaty. (Ity the Associated pro) Prime Minister Ramsay MacDonald of Great Britain and Gen. Hermann Wllhelm Goertng, Germany's minis ter of aviation, spoke simultaneously today. The former addressed the house of commons in London; the latter spoke to foreign correspondents in Berlin. Said Goerlng; "Our air force Is , match for any assailant." Said MacDonnld : "We propose to put our power of defense Into a state which will enable our people to feel they are protected." Said Goering: "We would Join any : air convention provided Germany's security waa safeguarded." Said MacDonald: "Will not Ger many now coine home and allow her readiness to help restore the Inter national confidence . . .?" Said Goering: "We want peace, we do not want to bo provoked Into breaking It." Said MacDonald: "I must express surprise that this moment has been chosen by Germany to announce a shipbuilding program, especially the building of submarines." (Copyright, 1035, by the Associated Press) LONDON, May a. Prime Minister Ramsay MacDonald announoed today the British government "already Is taking steps for a further accelera- (Contlnued on Page Seven) LEADER ARRESTED EUGENE, May 2. (AP) The ar rest of an alleged communist leader and the striking of a communist flag nailed to tho flagpole on Skinner Butte, marked the red May day dem onstration hero yesterday. A sched uled parade failed to materialize. Police arrested Paul Wellborn, a.I leged leader In the loenl communist party, charging him with defacing city sidewalks. Police said he had written several communistic slogans on city park sldcwalkB. In police court Wellborn was given the choice of cleaning up the sidewalks or pay ing a flno and after little deliber ation he decided to use the sponge. Early yesterday morning residents remarked a huge red flag, with the fnmlllar crossed hammer and sickle flying from the butte flag pole. Po lice promptly pulled It down on orders from the mayor. ELKS LODGE ELECTION Medford Elks lodge will hold elec tion of officers at their regular lodge meeting tonight, with competition In two offices. Exalted Ruler H. N. Butler urges all members to be pres ent, as he wishes the lodge to ex press unanimous opinion for these two positions. Final plans will also be made at tonight's meeting for the Elks dance which Is to be held at the temple next Saturday night. Lodge members are Invited to bring their house gyrsts to this dance. Relief Coin Precipitates Washington 'Gold Rush' WASHINGTON. May 2. (AP) Prep aration to effect the Immense work relief program went slowly ahead to- ffaiv vHHa ItirAmlnt? Imlni r'MpH tn I the "gold rush" complexion taken on i by the capital since almost .V000.- 000.000 was put In President Roose velt's hands. The Influx of people arriving dally to help spend this appropriation 1-. something to write home about. There are delegation of every kind Thir are governors and mayors, county commissioners, state highway engineers, representatives of drainage and IrrKratlon districts, debates from chambers of commerce and luncheon clubs, and Just plain cltlr-ens repre- : int nob"dy but t! i.ie.vr - -y are ail converging on Washington i '' ' Rocco J. De Grassa (above)ln dieted In Chicago for alleged parti cipation In the $260,000 mall rob bery of Dee. 6, 1932, was arrestee) In Portland, Ore. Ha slept sur rounded by miniature arsenal, (As sociated Press Photo) T CLEMENCY PLEA WASHINGTON. May 2. (AP) Attorney General Cummlngs today said Grover Cleveland Bergdoll, world war draft dodger, would receive "no clemency from the department of Justice." - Totd at a press conference that Mrs. Bergdoll had landed In New Tork with the intention of seeking a pardon for her husband, now in Germany, the attorney general 6aW: "Bergdoll Is a fugitive from Jus tice. Ho wns convicted at court mnr tlal and was serving time at the time of hli escape. Two other indictment-, are facing him in the eastern district court of Pennsylvania." Cummlngs said the question of clemency on the military sentence would be a matter for the war de partment and the president. He said tho pending indictments would be considered later. ABOARD S. S, WASHINGTON, May 2. ( AP) Mrs. Orover Cleveland Bergdoll. tho German wife of the United States world war draft dodger, Is aboard this ship en route to the (Continued on Page Plve) Clearing skies last night dropped tho temperature to an official mark of slightly under 30 degrees, and the orchardlats In the lower sections of the valley smudged between 3:30 and 4 o'clock. Unofficial reports said the mercury reached 29 degrees in the extreme cold parte of the valley, but Meteorologist R. J. Rogers had sent out a frost warning early In the evening that saved alt orchards from possible damage. The cold came as a surprise to the weather bureau. Rogers said that with rising tem peratures throughout the day It will probabl be warmer tonight, but that firing up may apaln be neces sary at a late hour in the colder places. The young pears have formed, ne cessitating more careful amudglng than before. Blossoms have fallen generally, leaving only a few of the late varieties in bloom. these dfys with their eyes on the billions boted by congress for work relief. There hasn't been a vacancy In Washington hotel for works. Apart ment houses have long waiting .lata, but not so long as the lines In the reception rooms of federal officials who may have some part In the ex penditure of the work funds. If you want to see a congressman Jump these days Just snesk up be hind him and whisper "works pro ject" In his ear. Senators and rep resentatives are getting so they leap like a startled faun every time their telephone rlniia. Ihe talk Is in millions. A few hun drrd thousand It seenw ! bsrel) worth mentioning, If at ftil. UNEXPECTED COLD CAUSES SMUDGING Interior Will Be Cleared Out and Walls Leveled Dis aster Took Old Struc ture Week Ago Today By CLAYTON V. BF.RMIARD Associated I'rcxs Staff Writer SAI-EM, May 3. (AP) One wee ago tonight a small line of smoke lazily drifting skyward from the dome of Oregon's cspltol gave the first no tice to a shocked citizenry of a fire which within a few hours laid low the state's 60-year-old historic build ing. An hour after the first signs of the catastrophe became visible the copper dome gently bowed Its head In a harmony of color to bid fare well to the thousands who had learn ed to look upon Its crowning peak: us a symbol of stability built up by the ear'y pioneers, and to love lta greenish hue.' prrtrlal Pkliire Chanced One week iBter that fire had changed the entire picture of official Oregon and particularly the immedi ate aetup at the capital city. The results and development during those seven hectic days since the very .core of material government was suddenly swept away reveal a differ ent course than had been followed or had even been suspected. The state planning board, called Into action immediately after it had been created only several months ago. atarted work on plans for the con struction of a new cnpltol building at a cost ranitlng from 2. 000 .000 to more than 5,000,000, a structure that would take care of the future needs of state government. Speelnl Sesnliin lter Governor Martin, forced to shorten his trip to southern Oregon, declared a special session of the legislature was inevitable, but such a session would not be held for at least several months. Emergency meetings of the board of control have been held dally, and sometimes called Into session as much as three times a day. A voluntary caplotl fund, started with a 1 bill, was continuing to grow. It will be used for some spe cial feature of the new building. Baling of the old structre, after all vaults had been opened and found vlrtualy Intact and what materials could be salvaged In the form of (Ilea ' and supplies had been taken out, waa , atarted today under the direction of F O. Leary of Portland, using crews of SERA workers. Other than the supervisor and throe key men. the work will be done by relief workers. Two IB-men crews were started today, working six houra each daily. The construction of an eight-foot board fence around th ruins was the first step In the wreck ing. Leary announced today his men' would clear out the Interior before felling the walls. Only workers will be permitted near the building, the fence to be constructed a distance of 60 feet around the structure. BASEBALL NEW YORK, May 2. (AP) The two Nntlnnnl nnH nn American Iprltiia baseball games scheduled for today were postponed on account or rain and cold weather. UKYEIILT HILLS, Calif., May 1. You know the other day I hnd a little "gag" in the papers about every time some nation uneo.etl a little louder (linn usual the others run into a huddle. Well, that might sound like a joke, but look at 'em to day. Germany announced somo submarines and now these dip lomats' heads are closer to irether than a barber shop quar tet. The one thing these old boys with a big navy are scared of ind that's submarines. They ire always claiming they are inhuman and not a civilized node of warfare. U would be "ather interesting to see pub lished the names of the weap ons thai are considered a pleas ure to be shot by. Yonrst IlitTUiRimM S oilcan, la
