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Medford Mail Tribune The Weather Temperatuies Fair mid mild lonluht nml Tuesday. llltrliott ytrdny 7 Utuosi this momiiip 35 Dilljj Twtotj-fourth Tw, Wetklf riftr-elKhlh Year. MEDFORD, OKftOOX, MONDAY, OCTOBER 21. 1929. No. 212. r 1 Today By Arthur Brisbane Bootleg High Finance. A Woman Is a Person. xjf hey Don't Want Freedom The Fate of Old Men. (Copyright by King Features ' Syndicate, Inc.) i j The hinh fiiiiincnif; of crime, I on n liootlpjj-pi'oliibition basis, j puzzles tile authorities. They wonder how Sir. "Senr .Face j A" Cnponc, safe in a Plain- j dolphin prison, could send j checks for litrjjp sums to usso- eiates, outside, cancel t h e ! checks, carry on a regular busi- ness. ;. . ; The authorities wonder how ! tlic bootlcuKci'S could establish ' a code system with a respect i iible bank, and they ask the I jl;nik to explain the code, by j which bootleg money was ilis i tributed. Minute details of bootleg fin , ance, handling bnudreds of mil lions a year, are interesting, ; not important. H Hut very important is the fact that prohibition, expected to "empty the prisons" and di minish crime, lias made possible . the financing of crime ,011 a ba sis never dreamed of, and high ly dangerous to the nation. M A 'bear is said to live all win ter on his own fat. ltut he can not, eontinue doing so all sum mer. The new criminal-class, which constitutes n complete training school and university of crime, is living just now on its own membership. ' Tiuhman' 1 slldOft gunman, racketeeer uses the "chopper," or machine gun, on liis fellow racketeers. Hut Hint will not last always. When the new school of crime turns its attention to re spectability; when it takes, per haps, a few interfering rcspcct-f ables for "ono way rides, something will have to be done. Kvon now authorities sug gest that bootleggers may have dealt with banks on n basis of intimidation. The kidnaping of one New Jersey banker remains unex plained. , The Canadian supreme court decided that "a woman is not n person, therefore not. iiuali- licd to sit in tlia Canadian sen ate." The Hritisli privy council, overuling Canada's decision, decides that a woman is a per son. Years nave passed since Eng lish law sought to protect wom en by ruling that n husband (Continued on Poge Four) If ilio prlnop n' Vnlcn win ioor mi" Mill limlif lily nlMilit bcrnnilir nn ptcrtrnul engineer or n doctor Ih-i1 born married limn ngt. Tin' name, .luiiou Slum?, o Ihp fHm nerutlc nntlminl executive com mitter. Mrt ' make a llfi'-hmg m-inm-mt feci like tlie party win sllpiiln' nwny from lilm. T URN BACK Ill HONOR 1 Golden Jubilee Celebration of Light Invention Harks Back to Days When Wiz ard of East Orange Was Peanut ButcherHoover Ride Replica Grand Trunk Train of 1862. By James 1j. West (A.ssoi-iatt'd Press Stuff Writer) DICAnnOHN, Mich., Oct. 21. (P) Greeted by a driving ruin and a liicinK chill. President Hoover arrived here at U:30 a. m. today to participate in the golden jubilee celebration of the invention of the j incandescent electric lamp by , Thomas A. Edison. The president and Mrs. Hoover were met at the Hiver Rougue transfer station by Mr. and Mrs. Henry Ford find Mr. and Mrs. Edison. They boarded the Ford train, a reproduction of an old train of the Grand Trunk railroad. . for Smiths Creek station at the en- trance of the early American vil lage, constructed here for Mr. Ford. The presidential party and their hosts posed for pictures tie fore boarding the train. The train of olden days proved a curiosity for the presidential party. There were three coaches, each painted in gay colors and decorated out side with scenes of colonial days in this country. KiikIiic Burns Whh1 The cotfehes were hauled by a woodburning locomotive and each1 car had a wood stove going nt full blast. There were old style ol burning lamps to illuminate the cars but no illumination was needed. Upholstered seats with bronze sldearms proved comfort able. The president and Mrs. Hoover and their hosts entered the. -rear coach and thc moved through the train to the ono immediately be hind the engine and its tender which was piled high with cord wood. Tho train moved along at a fair pace over the two mile stretch of track to tho entrance of the early American village. Km I i so n Sells Fruit During the trip on the old train, Mr. Kdison turned ttmo back moVc than half a century to reenact his boyhood role of news butcher. He had a basket of fruit which he sold for real money, insisting on collecting from his customers. LTpon the arrival at Smith's Creek station the president and Mrs. Hoover" inspected the old train which Is a reproduction eft the old OVand Trunk train from which Mr. Edison In 1862 was forcibly ejected because chemicals with which he-experimented in the bag gage car when he was not selling newspapers in the other cars, spill ed on tho floor of tho car, set it on firo and Incensed the train crew. The locomotive with Its bulging smoke stock and two enormous drivers was called the "Sam HUT and on each side of the head light were the word "Tho Pres. dent." The name on the tender was "Atlantic and Gulf R. R." Post For Pictures The president and Mrs. Hoover then posed for pictures with tho engineer, William T. Black, whom Mr. Hoover greeted warmly. Mr. Hoover showed interest In a nearby snwmill where nn old time saw was humming as it cut up the cordwood lengths for the locomotive. Turning back to the station, Mr. and Mrs. Hoover received the dis tinguished guests who had been invited here by Mr. Ford for tho golden jubilee celebration. They Included Owen' D. Young, chair mrn of the board of the General Electric company: John D. Rocke feller .Jr.. Governor Fred W. Green, of Michigan and several others. ' ' Inspect Sin I Ion Then there was nn Inspection of the red brick station, brought Intact from Us original site not far from Port Huron on the Port Huron-Detroit mute. It was at this station that Edison was discharged as a newsboy and began his career as a telegrapher. A rlri7.Kllng rnln fell throughout the reception at the Smith's Creek station and the president left off his formal clothes, wearing n dork gray overcont and a peary gray fedora hat. As the party started for the Ford home, the president and Mrs. Hoover entered a town car with Mr. rnd Mrs. Edison. Mrs. Hoover relinquished her place on the hack seat for 'the famous Inventor, who rode beside the president with Mrs. Hoover and Mrs. Edison on the folding seats In front. Klnmnn Klll.il WORCHSTK.R. Man,. Ort. 21 (PI One fireman wan killed and a dozen were seriously Injured In a fire which destroyed a warehouse hlnrk thin morning. Lieut. Carl It. Swenson u killed when n wall toppled on firemen who were wllhln the building. OM EDISON Stork Busy Sunday; Leaves Three Boys in Local Families Old man stork, who would Just, us .soon disregard the Stihlmth as not, cuught up on his work and deposited three husky boys at the Sac- ! red Heart Hospital within a 4 few hours of each other yes- terdny. As a result, Mr. and Mrs. A. K. Dorsey ure the parents of a seyen pound, 13 ounce son; Mr. and Mrs. O. R. Wi- - mer are the parents of a young- man weighing eight pounds and three and one- 4 half ounces,' ujul Mr. and Mrs. P. R. linteman lire the par- ents of a lad of six pounds, five and three-fourths ounces. Mrs. Marguerite King Shoots Self in Breast After Quar rel With Chicago Writer Daughter Grants Pass Pioneer. CHICAGO, 111., Oct. 21 (P) Mrs. Marguerite C; Kins, 38, a widow, killed herself early today In the hote room of Pnrlte lirowne, political writer of tin! Chicago Trib une. She shot herself twice in the breast with a .22 caliber pistol be longing to Browne. lirowne told police that he had known Mrs. King, who came from Grants Pass, Ore., for about two years and that they had quarreled a fortnight ago. When Browne returned to his room shortly after midnight this morning, Mrs. King was there, be said. She appeared disconsolate and he asked her what the matter was. In reply, Browne told police, the woman drew (he pistol from her handbag and shot herself twice be fore he could prevent her. GRANTS PASS. Ore., Oct. 21. (VP) Mrs. Marguerite C. King, 38, who shot herself to death in Chi cago Inst night, was the daughter of the la(e Frank South, pioneer mining man of Grunts Pass. Her first husband, Jack King, died sev eral years ago and later she mar rled a Mr. Drake, salesman for n Chicago hook company. The con pie were divorced moid than a year ago. Mrs. King was here last summer, returning from Indianapolis, where she was to take charge of a book store. It is believed she stopped In Chicago to visit friends. Acquaintances of Mrs. King here were surprised at the reports that she committed suicide. Self-destruction, several of them said, would be "out of character" for her. . I Tho fourth car of noscs( offered on the Detroit market, sold nt auction today at an average oi' $4.03 por box, the Winter Pear Committee, Inc., was udvUed 'this afternoon. Tho average price by sixes, ac cording to Information received by the committee, was as folluwt; KO'h to 135' $4.03 150 s 4.03 165 il 4.00 180" and smaller 3. "5 The fourth . car , had very few boxen of . lorae siis, , however, A brisk demnnd 'for sixes 110, J2d and 135. held up the- average. ' . Por tho first time, slhco tho Detroit-Hose campaign, was opened, OctolMT 7 ,6no' o the Inl-gcat chain stores', Jn.t f-fclrolt - bought freely nnd over half the car sold today was purchased by them. This Insures the Rose a wider rango of buyers nnd publicity. The fifth car of Honrs Is now being conditioned and will be placed on sale this week, In. time for the week-end buying. SENATE REFUSES SEND WASHINGTON, Oct. 21. (PI The senate today refused to send the tariff bill hack to Its finance committee with Instructions to re vise the measure and limit rate changes to farm products only. IIP. WOMAN IS SUICIDE IN APT. OF JOURNALIST QUESTIONED IN ..-.i.,--., -., V m lone Ord, show girl, was held In New Orleam In connection wRh the death of Jack Kraft, New York newspaper pressman. Miss Ord told officers that there had been a fight aboard the boat from which Kraft disappeared. Hla body waa later found in the Mississippi. PATRONAGE FOR Reply to Florida Protest On Appointment ; of Federal Attorney Says Political , Reasons Not Basis of Se lection. WASHINGTON.. Oct. 21. (IP) President Hoover, in reply to a pro test from Kloridu over the appoint ment of a federal uttorney, bus an nounced It Is the duty of the chief executive to make selections on the basis of public service and not for political reasons. The letter, made public at the White House today, was In reply to a communication from Fred li. Ilrltten, secretary of the Republi can party In Kloridn, on the np iwintmcnt of Federal District At torney Hughes. It asserted the Florida secretary and other Re publican leaders In that slate had overlooked the "prliaary responsi bility" Incumbent on the chief ex ecutive "to appoint men to public office who will execute the Ibwh of the United Stales with Integ rity and without fear, favor or ikj lltical collusion." "I note your demand," the letter said, "that tho organization shall dictate appointments In Kloridn Ir respective of merit or my respon sibility and that you appealed to the opponents of tho admlnislra tion to attack me. Tho success of tho Republican pnrty rests upon good government, not on patron age." BY OWN GUN AT SALEM 8AI.KM. Ore., Ort. 21. (Pi Marlon county's first hunting fa tality this season occurred Sunday morning when Hrro!Mhi Kusarbl. 23, a Japanese, shot himself whllr on n hunting trip with rhrre com panions. KilHurhl was leaving n rar near Huong's Inndlng In thn KHzer bot tom when the trigger of his gun raught on the running board. PUBLIC SEMCMUffl FOR VIEWOFH0OVERB0X MATERIALS Colored Baptists Settle Church Row ' With Razors and Chairs; One May Die KVANSTON. 111., Oct. 21. (IP) The Internal troubles of the Mount Zlon llnptlst church (colored I reached the razor stage yesterday. Three deacons were seriously In jured. One, Samuel Sanders, wns slashed across the neck and may die. Twenty members of thn con gregation were cut nnd bruised. Three persons were arrested. In cluding t'to pnstur, the Rev. 0. A. I.om:, nnd Blmon Matthews and Alex Corbln, deacons. Should the wounded Sanders tlie, police suld charges nf murder would be made against the three. For n year there has been trou ble between one faction of the .church and the pnslor. Yester day's meeting was under a court LOUISIANA DEATH Associated Vrtas Photo JACKSON TREES ; Fruit' Growers' Supply Co. of San Francisco Buys 640 Acres Near State Line Will Build Spur Railroad From Hilt. - ROSKHl'no, Ore., Oct. 21 W) Nine' tr.'ictrt of government timber In seven counties were sold by tho United States Land Office nt Rose burg today. The largest purchase was made by the Fruit Growers Supply compnny of San Francisco, This concern buying 040 acres In Jackson county, near tho state line. A spur railroad is to be con structed from -Hilt, Cnllforniu, and the pine timber will be cut for box material, tho 'compnny hav ing practically exausted 'its pres ent holdings-. Several additional tracts of pri vate timber In the same vicinity are held by the company under option. Purchasers nt today's sale were ns follows: M. D. Marsh, Noto, 41 acres, Iine county, SHI.IiO. i. M. Howard, Sheridan. 40 acres, Vamhlll county, $1,300.15 Forcln nnd Tirson, Noto, 240 acres, Lane county, $10,1114.10 Wren Lumber Co., 40 acros, Linn county, $2.01 7.73. Chester A. Smith, Glendale, 40 acres, Douglas county, $1,202.40. A. M. Matlock, Ventn, 40 acres, Lane county, $1,442,118 I Sherman Lumber Co., Banks, 1 200 ncres, Washington county, .l9.3liS.20. j Fruitgrowers Supply Co San ' Francisco, 040 acres, Jackson ' county. $32,000.30. Richard N. McCnrlhy, Marsh ricld. 40, , acres, Coos county, $5. 508. 07. . ORKOON STATU COLLKOIO, jcorvallls, Oct. 21. (Special) jLiwrewe Fisher of Medford, u graduate student nt Oregon State irrillegt., was honored recently with I the presliteni-y of thn Newman rluha Catholic student organlxa itlon. This Is one of the many student religious oi'Kunlzntions on thn rumpus. order which called upon tho church to hold an eloction iK-foro Novem ! her 4 to determine whether Long should continue, as pastor. I (1. W. Gibson, a deacon expelled 'n yerir ago, beKjin heckling the pas tor and demanding reinstatement. 1 Deacon Matthews pushed forward I and told Gibson to sit down. Blows ! were exchanged and soon the meet ing was divided Into two sides, one backing Glbssnn, the other support ilng Matthews and the pastor. ! Chairs were used as clubs and pro i Jectllcs. Razors flashed, i Five squads of policemen were I required to break up the battle, i which spread to the church yurd ! and blocked traffic as motorist j stopped to wulch thn fight. WITNESS IS QUIZZED ON CRIMEHOUR Pantages Employee Says Al leged Assault Before 6 P. M. Forty Minutes . Later Than Time Set By Dancer Girl's Clothing, Hair Not Disarranged, Is Recollection. LOS ANGHLUS, Oct. 21. (P) XI m. Roao Fowler resumed her do fense testimony at the trial of Alexander T. Pantagea on a'atat utory charge today, and said the vaudeville magnate left his theater August 9, tho day of tho alleged assault to go to a barber shop at 5 p. m., forty minutes later than the time fixed by Kunice Prlngle, 17 year old dancer, who brought the charge. Miss Prlngle stated Pantages went to the barber shop not later than 4:20 p. m., nnd fixed the time of the alleged assault before 0 p. m. On cross examination by District Attorney Huron Fltts nnd his as sistant, Robert P. Stewart, Mrs. Fowler admitted she was still in tho employ of Pnntages, nnd had been tnklng statements from other defenso witnesses. She snid her husband was doputy district attorney of StanlBlaus county and he studied for his bar examina tion in tho office of Joo Ford, a defense attorney. Sho admitted her husband had been connected with a law firm which bears Pantages" name. Mrs. Fowler said she saw Miss Prlngle in one of the offices In the theater nt 4 p. m., August 9, but that the girl talked to no one.- Clothing Not Torn ' "Wag her hnlr mussed?.'-' Btew 'arp asked.''" ' ' ""f'""" -f " ' "No, she had her fiat on," Mrs. Fowler answered. "Was her dress torn?" "I don't think so. She had 6 Jacket on." - , "You saw Pantages leave for the barber shop at 6 p. m.-" "Yes. I'm sure." "When you rushed to tho cubby hole room (where tho attack is alleged to have been made) did you hear the girl say anything?" "Yes, sho suld 'There's the beast'." ' "Did you see Roy Keeno, (a prosecution witness) move a tnblo Into tho cubby hole room?" "No, we loft for tho police sta tion at about d o'clock." Keene nnd testified Pnntnges in structed him to move a table into the room, Which he did at 0:10 p. m. Superior Judge Charles Frlcke, presiding, questioned tho witness. "When you heard the scream did you run to tho little room at once?" "No, I was telephoning." Ileonl Hcrramii "When you finished, did you henr them?" "Yes, nnd I ran down the hall." "As you woro running down the limit, did you hear them?" "Yes, they continued." Fred T. Wise, n stato witness, who testified ho arrived at the door of the little room to see Miss Prlngle fighting to got out. her clothes torn, nnd Pnntages' clothes In disarray, was recalled by the defense. Ford showed him a paper, de scribed as an Insanity complaint Issued ngnlnst ' him In Denver, Colo., in 1025. "Do you remember being con fined for mental examination In Denver?" Ford asked. "Yes, I think 1 remember," Wise nnswered. Questions concerning tho length of time ho was confined met slate objections which were sustained and Wise wna excused. Mickey O'Neill, on employo for eight years at the Pnntnges the ater, then was called to tho stand by the defense. GRANTS PAHS, Ore., Oct 21 (P) An Immediate survey nf the Port of Crescent City wns ordered today by the sennto committee according to a message received here from Senator Charles L. Mc Nury of Oregon. Action taken by tho committee, the mesage said, may eliminate n posslblo delay of two years in the attempt to gain federal nbl In the project. A meeting of the board of United Stntes engineers nnil representatives of various organ isations hi to be held in Crescent City October ti. Tlie tntnl production nf con I In Hie world In IIUI7 wns about Vim) million tons. C o. Bak Hunters Hi i Bad Luck: i Horse, Cow I1AKI0R, C ' Oct. 21.-yP) ! Hero are v linker's entries for tho duor hunters' story contest, P.I2H edition: Hunter No. 1 dismounted from his white horse in the 4 mountains near here ynster 4 duy, beat Ms way through the brush, circled around a hill, saw what ho thought ttus a deer and fired. He killed his own horse. 4 Hunter No. 2, nt another point, fired at a yellow anl- nml. It fell." He did not slop to Investigate but rushed to n nearby ranch to get a wagon. The runolioi' nnd wagon nc- coinpanlcd tlie hunter to the Boone of tho kill. It wns the rancher's Jersey cow. LOCAL HENS ON FALL VACATION EGG SUPPLY CUT Co-Operative Manager Says Shipment to Klamath Falls Curtailed By Scar city Receipts Turkey Pool Progressing. Tho Farm Kxclmnge Co-operative, according to Clay D. Parker, manager, lias been forced to cut down on Its supply of eggs to Klamath county because of not enough eggs to supply the demand. It requires a large percentage of the avuilable eggs to supply til local demand, which nro selling for 48 cents per dozen wholesale. The market is high with eggs scarce. According to the records of the county assessor's office, there are a 5,0 14 clilckeua and turkey., ju Jackson county and, from the sup ply of eggs on hand, very few of the hens are working. Arrangements for the turkey pool being sponsored by the Farm Co operative nre progressing favorably with the raisers dally reporting the number of birds they will have for sale. Shipping of turkeys to the New York market will Btart November 4 and continue until November 10. Shipments on and between these dates will reach the market in time for tho Thanksgiving buying tor which a majority Of the valley birds will be made. Any shipment after that data will be made by express. Six to 10 carloads of tur keys are expected to be shipped from this district. Savage & Company of New York City, buyers, will post an "Irrevoc able credit" with the Jackson County hank with authority to pay from 30 to 33 centB per pound when a car Is loaded and ready for shipment. The nmount advanced laBt season was 33 cents. The ad vance for this year has not been determined. f- WUAKEIHV A telegram was received yester day from the Detroit Fruit Auction company by tho Winter Pear Com mittee, Inc., David It. Wood, chair man, stilting Hint the Detroit trade was "enthusiastic about Dose pears," and "that the growers can depend on Detroit to take a big volume next year nt attractive prices, provided pears are condi tioned nnd offerings properly con trolled." The mesniiKO also suys that In terest In Hoses has bocn stimulated by radio addresses nnd newpaper announcements. The word lent encouragement to I he pear conimlllce and tho locnl growers nnd pnekors, who are co operating In making thii Rosu cam paign In Detroit a success. Tho telegram from The Detroit Fruit Auction company, in full, Is: Detroit, Mich.. Oct. 10. Medl'ord Winter Penr Com., Inc. Dr. It. Wood, President, Medford, Oregon. Trade here enthusiastic on Rose pears stimulated hy radio an nouncements nnd nddrcss by Pro fessor llartninn. Ilelicvo growers can deend on Detroit to take big volume next year at Attractive prices provided pears conditioned and offerings controlled properly. DKItTHOIT FRUIT AUCTION COMPANY. Ry C. O. Hrowti, Gen. Mgr. Timber Filler Killed ROHKIUHiO, Ore.. Oct. 21. (VP) J. V. Brady. 40, a timber faller, Wns killed today at Glendale by n falling tree. ' DETROIT MARKET SCRAMBLE 10 UNLOAD IN WALLS! Record Selling Movement Drives Stocks to New Low Levels Turnover May Surpass Eight Mil lion Shares Powerful , Pools Unable to Check Downward Trend Prices. NEW YORKIC, Oct. 21. lP) Tho stock market was subjected to ono of the most overpowering selling movements in Its history today. lioth the New York stock and curb exchunge tickers fell more than an hour behind the breath-taking pace of trading, ns leading shares tumbled $5 to $35. The enormous turnover of stock promises to approximate, ir noi surpass, the March 26 record on the stock exchange of 8,24ti,?40 shares. ' Repeated efforts wore mado by powerful Interests to support the market, but they met with little success until after scores of issues had broken f5 to $35 a share, many to new lows for the year. Tho selling represented an enor mous liquidation of weakened margin accounts, and ' unloading by discouraged traders who have felt keenly the sharp declines of the past six weeks. Selling orders poured into tho market from all parts of the country and from abroad. Auburn Ilnril Hit Auburn Auto tumbled $35 to a price of $340 which contrasts with Its high point of the year of $514. Tho utilities, many of which are now selling from $20 to $100 or more under their peak prices reached in early September, were conspicuously weak. Such Issues as American Waterworks, Amerl co.n, Power and Light, North Amei . lean, Electric. Investors, Paelflo Lighting, Standard Gas and Elec tric, and Stone & Webster dropped $0 to $14.' General .Electric, which opened more thnn $4 higher, soon showed a- net loss of more than $12. V. S. Steel, YoungBtown Sheet nnd Tube, Republic Steel, Atchison, Pere Marquette, Radio, National Jliscult, National Cash Register and Allied Chemical were among shares dropping from $4 to $10. Sell 80,000 HliarCH Cities Borvlce, which has climb ed steadily on the curb during re cent months from nbout $28 to above $68, opened with n block of 80,000 shares, one of the largest transactions In the history of the market, a Utile above $65, but soon sngged to around $60, High priced shares continued to hold a prominent place In the de moralized selling. Commercial Sol vents (old) broko to 627, a loss of 138 points. Auburn Auto lost 45, Geoples Gas 15 and Second National Investors 10. In tho finnl hour the ticker was running 7B minutes into. Sales approximated 7,000,000 shares. SECRET TARIFF TOLD TO LOBBY WASHINGTON. Oct. 27. W An office memorandum of the Connecticut - Manufacturers' asso ciation showing Information on thn secret tariff rate making ses sions of tho senate finance com mittee was produced today at tho sennto lobby investigation commit tee hearing. Tho memorandum was written by J. K. Wuichut, an official of tho association, to Charles I.. Kyanson. assistant to the asso ciation president, who aided Sena tor IMnghnm, Republican, Connec ticut, a member of the finance committee during Its deliberations on the tnrlff meusure. - - Tho ; paper was produced by Senator. Walsh', Dcrnocra 'M(.n-. tnnn, as Kyanson was recalled by the committee, - It relnted the opposition of Chairman Smoot and Senators Kdge and Reed, Republi cans, members of the finance com mlttce In the . secret session! of tho committee, to the 10 per cent duty qn rough bored shotgun bar rels. , Kyanson, on being shown ft photostatic copy of the memo randum, said ho did not remember It. s "Do you suppose," Walsh asked, "that Mr. Wulchot, a subordinate of yours, had such familiarity with the majority members of tha finance committee ns to obtnln this Information?" "No lr," F.ynnson replied, "I suppose we will have to ask Mr. Wulchet about It," WAIsh observed, SESSIONS WERE