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HEPPNER GAZETTE TIMES, HEPPNER, OREGON, THURSDAY, JAN. 20, 1927. PAGE THREE PHELPS REPLYTO rim mii urn (By Guy Fitch Phelps) In "father" Cantwell's horrifflc er ruption, which appeared in the Heppner Gazette Times," of Jan. 13, 1127, the people of this region have been treated to a sanmlc of the seeth ing hatred and Inquisitional lack of 1 neness which lies at the core of every priest's soul. This is the accu mulated culture, largeness, good I reeding, of centuries of Romanism. The local "father" has betrayed him seir. In his molten fury against Protestantism he was blinded to the fact that he was revealing the skele ton nideousness of his system. have never known a priest to write or Bpeak in any other vein. As parts of tne most inhuman, drunken, lust- clogged institution on earth what else could the priests be but Bamples of tneir machine "Father" Cantwell (I suppose they are denominated "father" for cause, and pass the point) does not know me personally. He has never seen me. His gall is that which created the Inquisition and washed the world in the blood of papal slaughter. Note a few of his classic utterances: "As there are certain animals, insects, vermin that feed and fatten on the corruption that fills the sewer, so there are certain human animals, hu man insects, human vermin, always r.nd ever looking to the gutters for their food. Such people with darken ed and perverted minds, and corrupt hearts, relish filth. Filth is food and drink, and sleep to them . . . Mr. Phelps, your oracle, your prophet, your idol, your paragon of a preacher, is about to speak. YOU VERMIN IN HUMAN FORM GO AND LISTEN TO HIM AND DRINK IN HIS ROTTEN NESS." Here is a sample of what the "mother church" does for one of her sons. 1 am wondering what the peo ple who have ben coming to hear me speak will think of this. The priest terms all who attend my lectures "vermin," "creatures which feed and fatten on sewerage." This is in keep lng with the assertion of the "fath ers" that Protestants are not mar ried, because the ceremony was not performed by a "priest," and there fore they are living in immorality. Naturally, their children for the same reason are alligitimate. If, as we have been taught, words arc "signs of ideas, then we have here "fath er" Cantwell's ideas. How lofty, how classic, how cultured they must be judged by his written speech. And all you people who do not grovel in the stalls of Romanism, all who have the courage to defy the Scarlet Wo men's despotism, are "vermin," just animals which eat at the end of a sewer." You come to your own church. You listen to a man you are paying for his work, and your speaker dis cusses themes which every Catholic priest in America is constantly de bating and arguing, and because you do this, you are classed as "vermin," by this hyphenated papist. "Father" Cantwell laments because our court rooms are scenes of im moral revelations and unblushing shamelessness of young girls. But just how much docs a drunken priest in a town, and a filthy confessional, where such a priest muck-rakes the souls of women at his leisure and pleasure, do to provide such court scenes? And what is the mori' ef fect on womanhood and girlhood to have a bachelor man god in the com munity, with the keys to the local nunnery, that prison for Catholic wo manhood, in his petticoats? Ah, and what shall be said of the fact that a vast majority of the bootlegging cases in the nation are Roman Catholics, brought to justice for imitating their ghostly confessors, who are notorious for their violations of the law? "Father" Cantwell asks me to be specific regarding priestly degrada tion. Ho wants me to name place and priest and woman. Is he in earnest? Dare he press the case? Then will I btgin in Heppner, and bring facts which will make the local infallibil ity hunt cover. How childish, how pitiful, this bombast. Need I join the catholic priesthood to know a drunk en priest? Need I become a "father confessor" in order to argue the na ture of a given institution? May not any one study the logic of a nunnery? Are not things known in the very na ture of cases? He speaks of the mor al eclipse of Methodist preachers. There are plenty of them. But Meth odist preachers fall in spite of their standards, and on their individual freeagency. It is not the misconduct of a given person which constitutes a case, but the effect on individuals of an institution. And if Methodist preachers, with wives and legitimate children, and without a confessional, fall, then how foul, how degraded, how drunken, how licentious, how double-doctrined, how beastly must be the Catholic priesthood, human nature and weakness being witness. The faces of the priests usually bear witness to their secret conduct. The furious priest, who enmo roar ing from his bachelor den when I re ferred to the confessional in its re lation to the woman and himself, re minds me of a "woe unto the man who brings scandal." Exactlyl But ten woes to tho vulture who origin ates it. Is it "scandal" to expose white slavery? Is it "Bcandul" to toll the truth on a foul thing such as the rapal confcssionnl, where, as tho lo cal priest knows, countless Catholic women have been debauched for all worlds? Is that "scandal?" I know the priestly method is to "move the priest" and tell the victim to keep still. But covering sin is not saving tho kingdom nor the church. Is it "scandal" to tell the diabolical prac tices of a wine-soaked and despotic and club-Bwinging, boycotting priest hood? Then is "fathor" Cantwell's own brothers guilty of it. Protest ant scholars go to Catholic writors for their records of the popes and the unspeakable corruption of tho Cath olic church during the Dnrk Ages and the sixteenth century. Platinn wrote the lives of the popes, and laid open their ungodliness. DuPin, a Catholic, did the same. Bellarmin addod his testimony to the rest. Beronius Is a fourth witness who uncovered the carrion sinks of the papacy, yet he lived and died a cardinal. And who were Arnold, Hubs, Savaranola, Luther and most of the other Reformers but prieBts who exposed Roman Catholic foulness Ah, and who were the na tions of people who seceeded from the so-called "mother church" but Cath olic people, exploited, degraded, mis treated, priest-ridden, till they could endure no more? Come, "father" Cantwell, were all those millions mis taken? Were they not Catholics driven to madness by just such blas phemous doctrines and insufferable priestly lordliness as you exhibit in your article? Think you that you are Letting anywhere with an intelligent reading people by calling everything that hits your drunken fraternity, lies and slanders and sewerage?" Re member, "father" Cantwell, you are not in Mexico or South America. Pro testant people think and read, and they see through your spume and dust clearly. Father" Cantwell uses many scrip lure reierenoes. xnis is amusing. wnat authority is the Bible to Catholic Priest when it condemns him? And since he seeks to prove some of his doctrines by the Bible he will not dare charge Protestants with inconsistency if we prove ALL of ours by it. And how dare he argue that "private interpretation" is a fal lacy when he submits to our "private judgment" all the references by which lie hopes to convince us of the truth of his position? By this priest him self I prove that the Protestant po- sition is correct in matters of teach ing authority. With this thought before us let me say that the "keyes" of which Roman priests make so much are easy of ex planation. Christ made this state. ment to ALL the apostles, not Peter alone. And whereever a man stands teaching, with the Bible in his hand that man has the keyes which bind and loose in all worlds. The man who reads, "except ye repent ye shall all likewise perish," is using the keyes" which "bind and loose." And by the plain Word of God, the Bible, any man is "bound" here and here after. This is no priestly prerogative; something in the gastric juices of a stomach filled with a priest-created Deity, but in the infallible Book. which "father" Cantwell auotes as infallible to prove his point. If what he quoted "binds" him, and it does, for he seeks to jirove his cardinal doc trine Dy it, then is every man bound by it. If we are not bound by the Bible what does bind us? Does "fa ther" Cantwell's naked word bind the souls in Heppner to heaven or hell? If his opinion were challenged to what would he go to prove his argu ment if not to the Bible? This brings up the question of in fallibility of which he speaks. He claims that the Roman Church is in fallible in her teaching deposit and authority.' Very well, will the "fath er" please tell us where this Catholic infallibility is located in his organi zation? Is "father" Cantwell infalli ble? No. Is the council infallible? No, because a pope can change the decrees of councils or confirm them. Is the pope then, the only infallible creature in the Roman despotism? res, and he is only so when he speaks of "faith and morals," and for the whole church. So, the infallibility of which the local "father" boasts rests in one man, the pope. Lovely! One man is to tell the world what is right and what to think and do. But are the priests, such as "father" Cantwell, infallible? No. Then how does this local priest, who is no more infallible than I, know that he in fallibly applies infallibility? May he not get things mixed to his members, specially after consuming many masses And if he does not enjoy infallibility how do his members know that he is infallibly giving it to them? Is not, therefore, "father" Cantwell running on "private judg ment" with the rest of us? And how much wiser to read from the Bible, out of hand, than to pass on the gar bled and uncertain opinions of popes, who have contradicted each other in doctrine and have shamed the world with their depraved conduct. There waB not in the Apostolic church, nor among the church Fath ers such a thing as a modern Catholic Confessional. Keep in mind that the Fathers of the first centuries' were de cidedly priestly and more or less cor rupt in doctrine. Would "father" Cantwell accept all the vagaries of those same fathers? Hardly. We all believe in "confession," but not to a priest, to God, through Christ. But Mr. Cantwell tells us that a priest has the power to bind one in sin or loose them through the confessional. That his judgment alone is authority in the case. That is, the local priest has Bent God on a vacation, and he tella people whether they are forgiv en or not, after he hears their con fession. Ligouri, one of the Catholic doctors, says that if a priest pardons a penitent God must agree to it. If he condemns that same penitent, though God would pardon him yet Deity must agree with the priest. And this infamous blasphemy, which only the most sodden degradation could believe, is set forth in this article I am answering witft a Drazenness which is appalling. When a woman is in the confess ional the priest has the privilege, more, it is his duty, to ask her every question he wishes. He can ask her of every Bex temptation; of every sex :ni.sstep, where the act was committed, with whom, how often, all the cir cumstances. He can search with the scrphent curiosity of hell the soul of a maiden to make her tell if she has been associated with young men; if she has exposed her body; if she has had improper desires while in the company of men. More, no even questions her, if he wishes, as to nether she has related herself to an nimal. All this is openly taught in Ligouri's theology. Let "father" Cantwell deny it if he dares, I have the originnl latin and the correct translation. These vultures in the devil's box," the confessional, are commanded by their "infallible" the ologinna (?) to "break down modesty" n a woman while she Is confessing, and to search her soul till they have alimed it over with their unthinkable degradation, even as the python cov ers its crushed victim with a serpent accretion before swallowing it. He con ask this woman every vulgar ucstion he wishes regarding her hus band and their private life. So vile, so unuttcrnbly carrion is this prlostly gate to hell that I dare not even hint at what goes on there Every Pro testant should remember two things! The priest has the authority and the commission to ask ANYTHING of a penitent, and the penitent must ans wer on the paina of perdition. I have talked to scores of women who left the confessional in disgust and re nounced Romanism because of what had been asked them by a priest. Certainly Christ only has one church, but that it a spiritual church, not boiAidaried by any organized com pany of professors. If "father" Cant well's position is right all outside the Catholic church are lost, and all in side are saved. Will he dare assert this, aside from inference? Then I will strangle him with the fact that Bishop Purcell, who debated Alexan der Campbell, admitted that there are "popes in hell." I am sure that all of them are there. In their mid night stupidity the priests of Rome can only weigh spiritual values in the terms of priestly power, and sac raments in the hands of men. Their brains are so violated that they can not conceive of a church apart from themselves. God's church consists of all who have been regenerated by Mis bpirit, through the Blood of Christ BY FAITH IN THAT BLOOD. Those children of the kingdom are found in and outside of all ecclesias ticsims, and their spiritual standing is not conditioned on the word or whim of a priest, but the promises and commandments of the Bible, and the conformity of their spirits there to, through the grace of Christ, which saves them on the terms of the sac rifice once for all made for sin. So may a man become a child of God on an island of the sea alone, without a church or a confessor. So may he live and die saved. What was the Rock of which Christ spoke? It was not Peter. The Greek in this passage means that Peter was a small fragment of rock, while Christ speaks of himself as a mountain of rock. Christ asked as to his (Christ's) Deity. Peter replied that some thought His a prophet, etc., a unitar ian definition. Then Christ asked him directly, "What do you think of my sonship?" Peter answered that he was God. Christ immediately replied "Blessed art thou Simon ... for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee (revealed what to Peter? The Deity and Sonship of Christ), and on THIS Rock; what rock? The rock Peter? Never! On the rock of Christ's Godhood the church was to founded, and the gates-of hell were never to prevail against that doctrine. How absurd, how perverted the view that the church was to be built on a man. No such blasphemous tnmg was ever hinted at till the bishops of Rome aspired to power, and invented that monstrous inter pretation to sustain their infamous wishes. It is clearly stated in the Bible that "Other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Christ." Christ, then is the founda tion and the cornerstone of the hurch, not Peter. Since infallibility rests in the popes let us glance in closing at a few of those monsters. The 29th pope be came an apostate to save his life. He offered incense to idols in the temples of Vesta and Isis, and tried to get other christians to do the same. This pope is one of the infallibles. The 36th pope denounced Arianism, went into exile because of it, and became an Arian later. The letter in which he subscribed to this false doctrine is still in existence. How could such a pope speak infallibility of faith and morals? Pope Damascus and Ursin were chosen popes at the same time, Which was the true one? The 42nd pope believed and taught the doctrine of Pelagius, which was that a man can save himself. The former pope had utterly rejected this doctrine. Two popes disagree in this case on doctrine. In the case of the 43rd pope two candidates were up for the chair of Peter. Emperor Honorius decided which was the true pope. The 45th pope bitterly opposed the Manicheans who taught communion in one kind, that is the method NOW used by "fa ther" Cantwell, withholding the cup from the laity. There have been three popes reigning in Rome at the same time, a trinity of drunken libertines vho met by night to spend among harolts what they had stolen by day. for almost eighty years there have been gaps without a pope. For almost eighty years no pope dared live in Rome. The 64th pope, Gregory, de- flarded that the claim of universal Bishop of the church, as held now, was blasphemy. Now all popes claim it. Gregory is classed as an infallible pope though he denied the claim. The 96th pope was a murderer and a fiend, the infamous degenerate Ste phen the 4th. Pope Stephen the 7th dug up the carcass of pope Formosus, propped the reeking thing in a chair, tried and condemned it, cut off three fingers of the hand. Formosus had killed a pope. From a. d. 896 to a. d. 900, a period of four years, five popes were consecrated. Pope Leo was kicked out by a servant who became a pope. Pope Sergiua lived with the infamous harlot Theodora and her two harlot daughters. Pope John 10th also shared the loves of this woman. She made a pope in a. d. 915. One of the daughters overthrew this pope. This harlot, Morozia, made her own son pope John 11th. His father was pope Sergiua. A brother of this pope Mine's In! Is Yours? TUM-A-LUM LUMBER CO. Heppner, Lexington, I one thiew both the pope and his mother into prison. She made her son pope John 12th, at nine years of age. Pope John 12th was the son of the harlot Morioza by her own son Alberic (Long's Hist. Popes, p. 127.) This child in turn committed incest with hia own mother and her sister. He invoked the aid of Jupiter in prayer. Here we have popes made by fallen women, yet they are called" true popeB today by such priesta as "father" Cantwell. Cardinal Baronius, a true priest of the church, says: "Never had diis ions, civil wars . . . caused the church to Buffer so much as the MONSTERS who installed themselves on the throne of Christ by simony and mur ders. The Roman church was trans formed into a shameless courtesan covered with silks and gold; the pal ace of the Latern was become a dis graceful tavern in which eccelesias tics of ALL nations disputed with harlots over the price of infamy. Never did priests, and especially popes, commit so many adultries, rapes, incests, murders, robberies; and never was the ignorance of the clergy so great. . . . Thus the tem pest of abomination fastened itself on the church. . . . Who would legi timate the pontiffs who seated them selves on the chair of the apostles? And what must have been the cardin als selected by such monsters?" And this is the infallible papacy, which "father" Cantwell obeys more I than God! I have barely touched the unthinkable degradatlen of this mon strous line. They believed and preached every nagan doctrine. They committed every crime known. They were cruelty and lust incarnate. They washed the world in innocent blood even as they have in Mexico. They have filled the world with supersti tion and rags, even as Mexico and South America. They covered France v-'ith skulls because the people wished to be free of these creatures which Cardina 1 Baronius calls monsters. They set up the inquisition and slaug- tered millions by it. It is this sodden, monstrous, blood-drunk thing, the blight of the ages and the scourge of aien, which the local priest defends. I did not begin this fight. He was '.iere when I came, the apologist for this pop--doniinated, unAmerican or ganization. I have but answered him. This is the Scarlet Woman, or Revela tion, intoxicated with gore, who has committed fornication (church and state) with the kings of the earth. The local priest "who saya hia name in Cantwell," assures us that this har lot Woman is old. Ah, so is blasphe uy, the pagan religions, and murder. The Greek church is older than the Roman, if that means anything. His church does not ovn Canada, America, Mexico, Serbia, England's Empire, France and other lands. He rails at the story of Maria Monk. Cantwell KNOWS that she told the truth. He knows it by his own experience. He Central Market C. W. McNAMER, Proprietor FRESH AND CURED MEATS, FISH AND POULTRY Call us when you have anything in our line to sell.. Phone Main 652 KNOWS it. Let Protestants send and get that famous book. Send fifty cents to Wm. Lloyd Clark, Editor Rail-Splitter, Milan, 111., and read it. and pass it on. It is the priesthood laid bare. Get also, "Why PrieBts Should Wed," and Father Chinequay'i "The Priest, the Woman and the Con fessional," from the same source. I beg all Catholics to assert their human rights and be free from this priestly despotism and degradation. Never let one of your grils or wives go again to Confession, where the priest picks their souls. And now, Mr. Cantwell, your church teaches that if a priest does not have the INTENTION of the church to correctly and truly perform a priest ly act when he baptizes, consecrates the Host, ordains, etc., it is null and void. ThiB being true, how do you know, Mr. Cantwell, that you were ever really baptized, took the mass, or were ordained, since you cannot know the mind of the priest when he gave you these sacraments? Will you answer these things? Yes, one thous and years from today. I hereby challenge you to publicly debate the following question: Re solved, that the Catholic Church is not the True Church of God. 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