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v Evening, May 9, 1925 THE EUGENE M U A JB D Page Nine AND ETHIOPIAN TREASURER TOPIC . g0nest Report, Full of Holy Gh03t and Wisdom Seems to Have Been Pre- viuaui vi tain, ciMuiuiiur f inus "n. W'n'T'Mn, 10: Philip and oTWo--AC. .. WM ErclutOT. D. D. vBOnr"-' ApoBt,e of "? k.t "fport. full of tho 'B,l,t ."d ora." who were K the rly ohurcb .to ad- fad". " 'or, thC ' (Art 6:S-5); thus leav J!tl free for their work c i .Piritl minl.tr.tlon j ,.' tm I .-other of the Martyr, nm. to have been pre . UbYral-spiriled Christianity ! .. interest in the .preading of ?r , to the Oentile.. He was CX free from the prejudice. ""Cw, .Peter cas r"1 wi,h " " -i Fthiopia was a. much the arorf t-U- inheritor of the P" hi. own heart. 21:S. we learu ium . PhiUo'at Cae.area, and ap- itlltlr a "'" houBe for Borne In this connection we learn nun. had lour unuiarrivu H.hKrs, evidently women of grace. ir'Sl virtue, for it i recorded itilther "did prophesy. "S i. "" "the ET.feIl.f 7, beautiful name! It ia no .int it food repute today, for good , ire toon imitated, and all to S chr.cter, with little training STi,,, character, have taken to Swnh-ei this noble title of "evaiujc But the sham and imitation Atikl never be allowed to obscure lit itnnrth and beauty of the real. IK greatest men in the church trenlboot the age. have been evnn- AU-oenuds, propaganui.:!, (Thrift: teUing ne meus vi ..... pd neirs of God. That is an evan nlist a bearer of good news. Philip IS I'ue Kxniinuv. . Win here as a man under sjiritusl guidance, seeking opportunl- tO dO gOOO, BOU IV ivu tur biuij bl oirn soul. Is there anything tilt has brought joy and satisfaction untie about that? Men seek all tn of contact, and opportunities In Ae nuking of money, in building up l rireer, in the business of politics, ui in sll manner of spheres outside 'nlilion. An evangelist is one who u active and energetic in the work the Gospel as other men are in the field of business. And Philip found hi. opportunity. Ererr man seeking spiritual oppor- tjuuty finds it There may be limited (eportunitles of making money, of trrompliehing almost any desired end, tat the one thing in which this world rich is in opportunities of doing tood. It is a world almost ideally limited in its need and condition for those who have made it their chief Winces to proclaim and live the Christian Gospel of redemptive love lad brotherly service. Bnt Philip found his ODDortunltv there others might easily have eiued it In this Ethopian treas on t less earnest and less Intelli tea evangelist might have seen only i mm ot oarK skin, a man from a re mote place, unimportant and not torth while. A good evangelist hwwi opportunity when he sees it -perhaps because he is so earnestly winni for It Aid opportunity knocked at the wraf the Ethiopian also. He read at eenprores, and like many otherB he did not understand. But, unlike "J who do not understand, the Muoniin treasurer had the good EM to realise thnt he did not i.n. rMu4. He was willing to receive wmiaion. I i. a part of our Sunday .ervice that you will enjoy attending and be a preparation for the morning worship I which follows at 11 o'clock with the 1 pastor speaking on the theme "The Spirit of Mothers' Day." Mr. Siefert'. ; olo, "Little Mother of Mine" (Bur leigh), and the anthem, "And Ood i Shall Wipe Away All Tear." (Coombs) .ung by our large chorus i hoir, will be the special musical num bers at this service. Evening .ervice at 8 o'clock with ltev. Bruce tiiffen bringing the mesnge, his theme be ing "A Personal Worker In a Court room." The quartet will sing "Sa viour Breathe an Kvenlng Blessing" (N'eidlinger), and the congregation will join in familiar hymns. Junior C. K. at 4:30; Westminster League and Senior C. E. at 7 o'clock. Pray er meeting Thursday evening at 8 o'clock, lesion text Matt. 6:R-15. You are cordially invited to all of these services, and urged to make your church home with us if not con nected with some other. with Mi,. Tillie Dorffler. meeting Thursday evening. Vrayer First Church of Christ, Scientist Corner of Twelfth and Oak St.. Sunday morning service at 11 o'clock; Wednesday evening testimonial meet ing at 8 o'clock; Sunday school at 0:80 a. m. The reading room at room S12 McMorran and YVaahbume build ing, corner of Kighth and Willnmette streets, ii open daily, except Sundays and legal holldny. at all hours. The Librarinn ia In attendance from 12 uMil 4. The subject of the lesson ser mon for Sunday is "Adam and Fallen Man." All are cordially invited tn at tend the ihurch services and visit the rending room. Gospel of Laugh has to Spread Theological Stud.nt Lays Aside' Brtils and Joint up at Funny Man tn Oirout First Methodist Episcopal .1. Franklin Haas, minister. Our Bible school convenes at 0:45 each Sunday morning. Dr. Hunt in charge. If you are not enrolled elsewhere, we invite your attendance heri Young people's societies gather at 7 ench Sundny evening. The high school Kpworth League in the Ladies par lor. Interesting and helpful program. The Wesley club meets in the Uni versity department. The pastor will bring a Mothers' liny meBsnge at the 11 o'clock hour. In the evening he will speak on "Huth, the Monbitcss." Special music for the day as follows: 11:00 Anthem, "(ilorla, from Ihe Twelfth Mass," Motart The choir; solo, "Mother 0' Mine." Tours. Mine. McOrew. 8:00 Anthem. "But the Lord is mindful of Ills Own." Men relssohn the rhorus choir. Prayer meeting on Wednesday night at 7:30. TEXT: Acta 8:2640. And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, Baying, Arise, and go toward the south, unto the way thnt goetli down from Jeru salem unto Gaza, which Is desert. And' he arose and went; and, behold, a man ot Ethiopia, a eunuch ot great authority under Candace, queen ot the -Ethiopians, who had charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship. Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esalas the prophet Then the tTplrlt said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot. And Philip ran hither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esalas, and said, Understandtest thou what thou readost? And he said How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come Up and Bit with him. The place of the Scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep .to the slaughter;- and like a lamb dumb before bis shearer, so opened he not his mouth: In his humiliation his judgment was taken away; and who shall declare his generation? for his life Is taken from the earth. And' the eunuch answered Philip, and said, t pray thee, ot whom speaketh the phrophet this? ot himself, or of some other man? . -Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same Scrip ture, and preached unto him Jesus. And aB they went on their way, they came unfo a certain water; and the, eunuch said, See, here Is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? And Philip said, If thou bellerest with all thine henrt, thou mayest. And ho answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. And he commanded the chariot to Btand' still; and they went down both Into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit ot the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch Baw him no more; and he went on his way rejoicing. Grace Lutheran Comer Kleventh avenue East and Kerry street. It. Traulmnnn, pastor. t'Unday school V'Aa a. m. Classes for all ages. Come, and bring your chil dren. Divine service 11 a. in. the pas tor preaching on "The Conversation of Jesus with Martha." a. recorded John 11, 17-27. Oermnn service H p. m. A cordial invitation to these ser vices. ' The Ladies' Aid will meet on Thursday afternoon at 2 o'clock with Mrs. Kd Ziniker, cor. Wood and Port land Sts. Y. 1'. S. Friday ": p. m. lit the parsonage. International Bible Students Asso ciation Meets Sundny 2:30 p. m. at I.Vil High street. Studies In the "Divine Plan of the Ages" relntlng to tiod's dealing with individuals duriug the Jewish snd the Uospel Ages. The "Atonement Between God and Man," What is Man thnt God should remem ber him. Alxnndor laid aside hid theological books with reverent hand nud pnnsed from College, wher he whs studying for the miuistr?, to the big top of a little circus. Today he is a circus clown, and the only clown on record who tins nsed a college (ducat Ion tn clown the better. Was "Funny Bone Alexander was studying to be a preacher at Uice Institute, Houston, Tex., when the mnod came upon him. He had always had a "funny hone." as the follow students called ft, and enjoyed making folks laugh at his antics. Now he Is known an the "hlgh-hrow of low comedy" with the Sells-Kioto show. His philosophy is Inuch. But as he makes merry ho bits thoughts, too, for the morrow. As Alcxnnder sees It, Heaven is a long way off, and the road there is rough' and winding. "I'd ruther laugh than preach," he says. "A laugh In time shoves' many a poor soul along toward the right goal. Giggles Bring Good "And what's the use of sighing? Jut giggle, cheer up the other fel low, and good is bound to follow. "You never sow a happy man punch another chnp on tho nose, did you? "Well, the same thing holds true through life. "Where there la mirth and mon key business there ia neither mad ness nor baldncKS. "The devil finds plenty for Idle hands. Hut a laugh chases the old boy. Ho juet can't atand a good. wholesome time. A laugh la a am buster. "I'm doing my bit for the Ileoven bent by cheering them up so tbey won't forget the way." Church of God Third and Monroe. Mnmie Biscon cr, paster, llibie school at 10 a. m., K. A. Fogies, superintendent, A. Head, assistant. Classes for nil nges. At 11 t. m. a Mothers' Day program will lie given. Young people s mooting at 7:lii p. m., Mary Stolsig. loader, subject "A Story in Scripture and Song." Hano trio by Myrtle iernuu, .Margaret Heustes aud Viola Florer. All young people are Invited, l'reach ing service at S p. in., subject "An Ample Supply for Three Oreat es the Way, the Truth nnd Ihe Life." John 14:0. Song, "Tell Mo the Story of Jesus." Mid-week pray er meeting Thursday at S p. ni. All are welcome. (Ily NEA Service) flllCAOO, May 0. "Smiles have to be smiled, and as long as some body has to ninke the smiles, I de cided thnt little Willie might as well turn the trick," And with this thought in mind Roy to confess Ms new-found faith? lie He desired Philip that had the chariot stopped. "See, here of sound judgment. And it wns matched with prompt action. There is water, he said, "whut doth hinder by the sido of the wny I'hilip per me to be bnptized?" formed tho rite that symbolised the Ecclefliaaticism might have Imposed entrance of a believer into the house all sorts of hindrances. The Kthio- hold of faith. pinn might nave Deen required to mi- .May we not say with assurance fill all manner of ritual requirements, that never in church oV cnthedral, by He might have had to await a long priest or prelate, was baptism ever iM mrut a ",rmclat oeatn ot probation. Mut I'hilip was a good, performed that had greater ralidity . sm understood the Oospel of plain common-sense Christian. He' or spiritual significance? t ft. u e foundntion found no barrier. And note the concluding word. The B world. ,.t. .1,-,. t,.iiB..f H.t.1, .it tuin. r,k;An;.n ..... , . , . - ' uc..vcb ".v.. u.m ........ ......',..bu tlcaouicl n,U, (JU Ul .' wonner tbat he wished heart, thou mayest" that is the voice wny rejoicing." t 0Uld Come lin nn,l .if i,l. Kl.m " Aid l'hilin ir.nt i chariot, .mi i, i..., 1:. , 7. 1 ir,-Hi:ii,Mi unto MjJwus." It is Jean. 111,. '" the Scriptures. A new nnder wtag swept over the words of " M the Ethiopian grasped the m me sacrificial death At The Churches Sunday Pint PL. A. "M9iian. and Eleventh ....... i- v irooer dar. day Is N e are expected -ti ,ii . h ,"'ri" in ho"0' ' W Saa.. Tm,"r" of this church "way school will w n..i and of the rU 71 " "", s"ndny. Mr. 11. it J.!,''. "P'f'ntendent of thi u .. .. m"de Ppnrations H ;."": " '"dsnce I .' Moth'r." will '. nse h. n ru , " The morD- T. Li J'"11"" n apprecia n .eho'il msle nunrtet "Miia girl V -m"''' "rl vh sing at S.indav il '" fo. will tin. In. .... 0 af,t to eniov , ' P'ram. The .ermou H .r:11'- '' .ging the 1WI a "'""!"- will he nf n,or. Vr is',"'1 """Psper fra eh.'.0.""1 " t"nd. The tr. .inilsy svenlne 1 draw tr-meii- H all' .. ' welcome vl. I :th . J' sehMi. . 'hnrchea sn.l 'iSi l. " g'.ve von . m,..t w.k '"i Mother's diy will he the permnn "pirit of th- (a Of Ak..... . .-..is- vtf"' UL"firi, ;,.T"""" will nrr. h 1 b. m ni Uinr " 'rmr to the Tslf. , "f the nihi,. mount district spend the hours f service with ui and get acciuninled with some nf your neighbors. They will he delighted to meet you. Seventh Day Adventfst. Seventh and ihnrnelton. T. M. tangberg, pn)tor, I'hone 010-J. Salt bath school 9:4. a. m., church ser ricei 11 a. in., young people's meet ing 3 p. m., prayed meeting Wednes day 8 p. m., Sunday evening aervics S p. ra. subject (illustrated lecture) on "The Importance of Ufe and Health.'' Public welcome to all meeting!!. Trinity Lirtheran. Corner Sixth sod 1'eiirl, Overt Skil bred. pastor. Sunday school 0:43 n. m. (iruded school and all ia Ameriran. Services st 11. Full ritual. Hper-Ul music by the ofcoir, all in Ameriran. Sertices 8 p. m. will he sung service. All singers are especially invited. On Tuesday eveninf we hsve a ma meeting to her report from commit tee elected by the I.rotherhood f Oregon to investigate the status of the fieverson Memorial home for the Kiiight Htid .Mildred Welsh. The ser mon topic of the pastor, Frank Fay Eddy, will be: I'unzled I'arenta In an Age of Confusion." The church school mrets" at the cose of the morning service. The aimiml meeting of the church will be held 'ffiebday evening at the church ami will be preceded by a rongregntionnl supper served a: 0:.'t0 o'clock. Bible Standard Mlfcalon 707 Pearl street. Fred I Hurnahnh. nnninr. Mrs. AlfarcttA Wood, aaslst- ant pastor, Miss lvorita Wood, muni- ral director. Sunday achooi nt iu a. tn. ivearhina- at 11 a. in. Tho Cru snders will meet as usual at 6:.10 p. in. Hev. Ilenlinm In sturting n tent rninniiiirii nut nt Willnmette and lHli strcetR, and the Hiblc Standard will el rise its meet in kb except on Sunday morning as long as this cnmpaign oi Rvnngelist Henham lasts. The IJIble Btnndard night training school will run just the same. Free Mothodtst Located one block off highway, west of Glenwood Servico Station, will hold special week end meetings on Friday at 7:it0. ltv. l'loce will be there and preach, also a 'linger will accompany him. Other local slngens will be help ing, ltev. Place will also hold a Sat urday service nt 2Mi) and one at 7:110 nnd three on Sunday. He is a compe tent man, capable of pleasing the pub lic, and a man of sterling worth to the lord's Kingdom, ito sure and hear him. The pnslor, ltev. Lillian t.rny, will be. closing up her Confer ence Year oon and attending the An nual Conference Which convene! In June at Koseburg. preceded by a camp meeting. She urges all to attend then:' special acrvices, and ilng, pray ui There Is room for all. You ui d and will he given a hearty u Hiing the family. Including ih tin Sunday there will be a banket dinner on the church lawn, so bring your banket and eat here, invite your neighbors, and enjoy a day of rest, und service. Plenty of room Jor all. A big luble will be fur nisdied and a place for all. Springfield Methodist tLbbert Memorial) At 8 p. m., the fireside hour, a set of beautiful slides will be thrown on the screen. Thia will be followed by a short sermon, being the fourth in a aeries on "The Hook of llevela- tion." In the morning Mot hen' Day will be observed and Miss Young of Korea will speak. The church school meets at 9:45, with Mrs. Ida (iantc as superintendent. Last Sundny we were but three neiow our nign mir of sttendance. The Kpworth Lengue will meet at 7 n. m. "The church of a cordial welcome" invites you. Moore, minister. This week's heme for the Muli Memory tent in the Kugene schools have been announced by Miss Leonn Mursters, music instructor, as fol lows : Largo, from "New World Sym phony," Dvorak. "Largo" is a musical term which means slow and solemn. This I.nrgo is the second movement In the "New World Symphony." It Is a tone-picture of tho homesick immigrant who tins come to the "New World." The first theme, taken from an old Negro spiritual, "Massa lear," is played by the English horn. The second theme which Is more animated and restless, is played by the oboes and flutes. Can you hear them? What do you hear after the second theme? How does the composition end? Dvorak was a Itnhemlan musician and composer. He mnde many trips to America where he been mo much inrn.-.-hMl in tho Indian aud negro melodies. u . a My Mother Taught Me. Dvorak. I WM Scherzo, from "Midsummer Night's trenm," Mendelssohn. Felix Mendelssohn belonged to a wealthy (ierman Jewish family that was educated and -cultured. It whs in his home thnt he learned to love Shakespenrn. For a family Musicale, he composed music to accompany the Shakespearean play "Midsummer 'Night s Dream. This Is a fniry play. The "Hcher ro" describes,, the fniry world. A Scherso is a composition of hitmurous character a jest and in this num ber we have the elves making merry as they revel in the deep woods. The flute plays tho first theme. Can you bear the violins? WOMAN . VERY NERVOUS Weak, Blue, Discouraged Relieved by Taking Lydia E. Pinkham't Medicine I rfMIVev I if .'.Vl Cincinnati, Ohio. "I waancrvoui and could not sleep, had crying spoilt and the Dlues, nnc didn't care if lived or died. Mt rifihtsidQWRSvor; bad ana 1 had back ache and a weak noaa. 1 read about your medicines in the papers and wrote lor further information, I took Lydin E. 1'innnnm s vegO' Blood Modlcino nnd Livor I'illa, and used Lydia E. I'inkhnm'a Sanative Wash, i have had eood result. In ev' ery way and am nolo to do my work again and can eat anything that comes along. My friends tell me how won l am looning. turn. v. n Coiuei,l,120 PeotoSU, Cincinnati, 0. Willing to Answer Letters Philadelphia. Fa. "I have used your medicines for nervousness and a run-down system with a severe weakness. After taking I.vdia E, Pinkham B Vegetable Compound and using Lydia fi. Pinkham's Sanstivo Wash I feel like a different woman and have gained in every way. I am willing toanswnrlettrrs asking about the medicines." Dora Holt. 2649 S. 11th St., Philadelphia, Pa, Day Mother's A tender, saored, inspiring occasion First Christian Church Oak and Eleventh Street Great Sundny School nt 9:45 closing with beautiful pageant, "Mother." "Our Mothers an Appreciation" Morning sermon subject, Dr. Stivers preaching. High School Mnlo Quartet Sings "Mother Machree." "Fighting The Devil With Advertising" Subjcot for evening sermon. Newspaper mon, job men, nil thoao of advertising fraternity urged to attend. MISS LAVERNE SMITH, Indian girl, will sing Indian Bongs in costume. Tho choir sings at tho evening service. Attend church Sunday in honor of Mother Wear ft flower, a colored ono if sho is living, a white one if sho has passed on, in her honor nnd memory. Etigene-Sprhigfltid Free Methotfst. One block wril of Mlenwootl .ervict stall o lu W.'.t Hprlnafield. I.illinu Gray, pnstor. Similar school at 11:4-1, Josephine Lee, .pirii.t?m!nt. Class es for all. .Morning service It a. in. Sermon by ltev. J. J. Place. Mother's day 'UK !' tl.e I'uicll sisters, at.d others. Testimony .prvice following morning service. Von can take part, ld fashioned and helpful. Afternoon service at i::4.Tt. Mermon by Iter. Place. Good singing. Young peop'. meeting at 7 p. m. rd by Msry I,el Ynu Kill like the young people's meet ing. Kvenlng service at 7:45. Sermon by Iter. I'lsce. tdiel by Mrs. .Morse and Miss Grave More. Special soijg bt Mr. I'tlgh. Ilo not fail p. come to K. I. aged, betore cff.,iilly takrn nver I.J these services, anl take part. S ng or the L. II. O. The same committee p ay or spenk. nnd come anyway. .Ml will also arrange for S student pastor ; Sre inrlted. llring Ihe Ism ly, let the here. The L.ilher.o Ur itherhood ( children come, and h-lp in our coni Kugene will serve refre,bments to sll paign of "Beck to the Family Pew. who come. We sre annous to hxeije.us sai.l: "Buffer little elllHrn to r.ill atten.lsO'-f. just mnie along. ThM"..ne unto me. and forbid them not. jjidir." A.d meets .a Thursday la tl.e i for of turn I. the kingdom nt Heaven, timers are enjoying it her. why n"t you? Tfce Is.ly pastor per forms m-irriagcs, nnd visits the sirk of aeedy. Attend thi. "Homey" church. Hring your dinner and enjoy the bas ket lunch on th: church lawn, .lay all day. Flrtt Congregational Fred J. Clark, Minl.ier. VAX Run y school; 11 m., Mothers' liay Htrmoni "The Mother-Spirit of God" Special Mothers' Day music by the choir; Holo, Frank J.te. 8 p. m. Ser mon: "Ihe F.agle' Young." Good mu sic and warm fellowship. Monday, nt 0 p. m., Hrntherhood supper with the Corvalli. Brotherhood as guests. church parlors fro-n U:bO p. m. Tie Skilbred madams will be joint ho tesses. Those who intend to go east to He Norse-Centennial eelebratiou would do well in railing at Hev. Overt Skilbred 24 2 e.st Sixth F-ugenj for detailed informal!, n ta to trip. It will b rrand affair and si msn; a. ran get off should go. First Unllsrlas. East Eleventh avenue at Ferry street. Morning service at 10:4.i. S. .... t...i a ... ;.k I prog rnm .rr.ihg'd by Hubert Uc-I fleers and capable teachers. First Baptist Corner nf Kighth snd Pearl streets. Charles K. Iut.liam, pastor. Arah lloyt Ilae, music director. Hlble school meets at :4."i. W. It. Iird, suiierin tendent. Morning worship nt 11 o'clock. Moiters" lny will be observ ed. The muticfll numbers sre snthem, lieyond the Glowing Skies." (Bird) Quartet, "The Gentle Mother" I Bird) nnd Polo. "Mother o' Mine" (Tours) by George Signnr. The pastor will preach the sermon. His subject being: "Mother snd Home," The young peo. pie. .ocleties meet st 7 o'clock. Fre eing worship st 8 o'clock. The subject of the p.stor'. sermon is:. ''launch Out into the Iteep." The m.le quartet will slug "My Mother'. Picture." ( Bird ) Offertory solo, "Mo' her Knws" (Csssell by I harles Ith'iadee. I'rayer and conferen.e meet ing an Thursday night at T: i". Emmaut Lutherao On Recond avenue west nenr Plnir Blvd. Henry lveraeo. pastor. Si.ndsy school st ten o'clock. Miss Camilla Andersou. suprnntendent. Mor.iing Worship in the English language st eli-ven o'clock. For the evening ser- Centrsl Preahyteri.a Ui,. .g,nniiig st eight o'clw-k. the Comer I'Mh and I'earl. ltev. A. i Yourg People's s-w-iety has pl.nned s H. Saunders, minister. Prof. John short program, honoring the Mother. P.. Siefeit. choir director. Jlrs. Burn .and the Confira.ants. Afler ihe prn llnvis Cleaver, orgnnist. Sunday : gram, refreshments will he served In school at 0:4.".. under ihe efficient of- i the church bisemenf. Wednesday ere. Thi. Ding the I'orcas Ncetllc cloh will meet The Oratorio "CR EATION" will be presented by the Eugene Oratorio S6ciety John Stark Evans, Directing At The Methodist Church Auditorium Friday and Saturday Evenings May 15 and 16 Over 150 Voices In Chorus SOLOISTS: JANE BURNS ALBERT Soprano WILLIAM PILCHER .... 1 enor GAGE CHRISTOPHER . Basso The Most Complete Presentation of "Creation" Ever Given in the West. The seating capacity of tho Methodist Church Auditorium being lini- itctl, reservations' Hhouhl lie niado at jour earliest convenience. Seat Now on Sale at The Laraway Music Store General Admission 5()o lU-served Seats 75c, $1.0(1 aiidl.fiO ?: f hi ! ' KM . 1 . ' ': ,11' j i til it . III i j ;. ' U r... id