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bÍT+iTS’i’I AN ÍTKTÍ á LÍÍ ence to our command, they will choose to fold up their sheets and retire Jrom the field rather than speak as the otacles of God speak. Of cotlrse it is uriderstood that Xi-1------- 5. The Advocate says it will notice our three points as we num bered them, but it never mentions our second. Why ? We leave our readers to judge. But in that par agraph the Advocate will learn that Christ teaches that Me is the vine and his individual disciples are thfe branches.> Again we ask, “Does the Advocate understand ?” 6. Our good friend thinks a wonderful man has stolen into Oregon, and that it is strange we have not had a “ moral and intel lectual earthquake, etc.” It would seem from what we have before us that there has very recently been considerable quaking about the office of the Advocate. As to the moral and intellectual feature, we are not so certain. We are pro foundly thankful however that this shock has not disturbed us in the least. We are used to them. The Advocate exclaims, “ Upon what meat does this Ceasar feed ?” It would occur to most people that he is now feeding upon Methodist meat; and if his weakness is such as estimated by the Advocate, it is to be hoped that it will be attribut ed to the quality of the food rather than to any natural depravity. 7. We have now reached his closing paragraph, (keep cool my brother). It is a fine specimen of sectarianism, and this is the only reason we consent to refer to it. The sectarian spirit is the same wherever found. Like the oppos ers of pure Christianity in the days of the Savior, it knows nothing of honorable, dignified Christian in vestigation. It can only rant a little, and then retire from the field defeated and disgraced. But we thank God that there are many in the denominational ranks among the better enlightened and more re fined who have thrown off the shackles of sectism and are willing to stand upon the broad platform of true principles and Christian couitesyrever*reafijf toinvestigate and learn that wfiich pertains to life and godliness. As for jthe rest, it is to be expected that, in obedi- « uX.------- 1—:J_ lx. ___ n » ttnderstandsthat we are the most “ sectarian,” “ the most denominh- tional denomination on the coast,” the Advocate is everybody in. Oré gon, Ahd when it “ folds its sheet, ’ journalism and religion will be dead on the coast. (Keep cool ) By the time we summer and winter on the coast, the Advocate may learn that there is somebody in Oregon be sides itself. __ And now we are truly sorry to have to part company so suddenly with Our amiable friend, especially while he is likely to expire in a paroxysm of holy horror, for it makes us uneasy as to his future. But we will be glad to meet him in the far off by and by even as a “ branch.” In the mean time the destruction of denominationalism will go on as usual. Fa-r e-well Bro. Crawford. From 0. H. Spurgeon. One of our subscribers having made enquiry pf us to the frequency of the celebration of the Lord’s sup per and the existence of ruling el ders in the congregation in London under the pastoral care of C. H. Spurgeon we submitted the query to the great preacher himself. He replied very promptly, and we have the pleasure of giving an exact co- 1>v of his answer, which is as fol ows: ‘ R. C. Buckner, Dallas, Texas, U. S. A. Dear Sir :— Yes, we break bread every Lord’s day, for so it seems to have been apostolic practice. I conceive there is no law but there is precedent. Yes, we have deacons for tem poral, and elders for spiritual things. Do we not read of elders over every church ? Are not both officers necessary ? Yours truly, C. H. S purgeon . This furnishes the information our querist wanted, and we wish to say nothing further just at this time but at another time would have no objection to writing at length on the two points. The above is taken from the Tex as Baptist of recent date. It is pret ty plain as well as scriptural talk from the great Baptist preacher to a Baptist editor, and we suppose was easily understood by the latter. Our Baptist brethren were not sat isfied with what the New Testa merit teaches on - tl&se quosliou^ but had to refer the matter to Mr. Spurgeon. Now that they h&ve his positive answer backed up by his established custom all of which is substantially the teaching of the apostles and the practice of the primitive churches, the question arises, what are they going to do about it ? Will they continue to op pose apostloic accept the teaching of their great preaqher and that of inspired apos tles and thus take another step to Wards New Testament Christiani ty ? We will see. Please notice furthermore that Mr. Spurgeon does not talk about the Sabbath, but he calls the day on which they break bread the Lord’s day. God Presbyterians. Methodists, Bap tists, Epkoopslians, Catholics, and Campbellites. There were no such eharohea in the days of the apoatle*. People who are educated in the Scrip tures do not wear these outlandish title«. Our great interest in this quea- g a>. i». ■l l>A..°a !LT»£21°gz_gt offigl for our freqneht Most of our papers have pbeen free to speak out in condemnation of this move, and we are astonished to see article after article appear in the Christian Standard froth those who seem to be more interested in a few statistics than in a close ad herence to New Testament prin ciples, without a word of comment from the editor. Are we to take this silence of the Standard as Selections and Comments giving its consent f Yet the Mes senger says, “As a denomination, B aptism and R emission .—In the with Christ at their head, they ar6 Christian at Work, C. Kendrick called Christians.” But if they are publishes an extract from a letter a “denomination,” then why not written by Dr. T. J. Conant: wear a denominational name ? M y D ear S tr In Aeta ii. 38, -X understand the words ‘ unto the remis sion of sins-**-as a shorter and more lit eral expression of Dr. Hackett's ‘ in or der to t ie forgiveness of bíqh * onto ’ and.*_in order to’ having the same im port. The words stand connected with both the reqniiements that precede, i namely, rep< utance and immersion up on the Dame of Jesus Christ. Immer sion upon the name of Jesus Christ, as the foundation and ground of it, is ** an acknowledgement of him in, that act as being what his name imports, the sin ner’e hope, his Redeemer, Jnatifier” (Hackett). I am, my dear sir, very truly yours, T. J. O onant . It should be remembered that Dr. Conant is one of the finest critics and greatest biblical scholars in the Baptist ranks Let our Baptist brethren carefully read the above extract. G reetings .—This is from the Atlantic Missionary : The C hristian H erald , of Mon mouth, Oregon is now under the man agement of Bro. .- . ,, Floyd. - , The last num- betWM_fi»pecially good The H erald and the Missionary now shake hands across the Ameri can continent. Smooth the troub led waters of the Atlantic brethren, and we will do what we can for old Pacific. Here is what Standard says: the Christian The C hristian H erald , of Monmouth Oregon, now appears with the name of J. F. Floyd as editor and publisher. Bro Floyd is already known in oonned- tion with the Faithful Witneee, of Kan sas. We wieh him all ancccM in hie new venture. The Standard, we believe, never “ A bout N ames .”—The Christian forgets to mention us iii our many Messenger under this heading has some very sensible things to say changes. This shows enterprise, and something more. We feel like about the adoption of a name: A brother writes the M essenger sng- taking off our hat when the Stand gesttng that the disciples of Chrirt ard comes into our office, but then should take some one scriptural name, we expect to grow too. and wear it. to the exclusion of all oth ers *1 his is impossible, while we take the Bible for our creed. The same sug gestion was made at the last general convention, in the form of a resolution, and was ruled out of order. Christ’s people wore not called by any one name in the days of the apostles, to the ex clusion of all others. As a denomina tion, with Christ at their bead, they are called Christiaus ; as learners and fol lowers of Christ, they are called discip les ; as holy people, set apart to a pure and holy life, they are called sain's ; as children of a common family, they are called brethren ; as a church, they are o tiled the church of God or the church of Christi All these names are correct, when correctly used. It would beuo- aoriptural to take the name Raints as a denominational title, and spell it with a capital 8, as the Mornioua do ; or breth ren, and spell it with a capital B. as the TfibkfiTh do 7 ot the name diseiplee, and spell it with a capital D, as the Christ-, ian Review and Chtiatisu Standard do. This is sectariaBism. It is also unserip tural and sinful to oall the peoplti of M ust S top S omewhere .— -The Christian Instructor says: Professor Park, of Andover seminary, pea king of the orthodox wing of the New England Congregational let says : •• We have given up dovtriue after doctrine, and we muxl etop some- where." Professor Park will find that the mistske which he and his fr ends have made was in beginning to give up to the demands of the liberal elements-in \foe church. Having begun to yield, they will make the discovery that they must continue to yield until all that has constituted them an evangel ical church has been lost They can stop nowhere short of casting out tho liberal element, or separating themselves from it. r This is good advice. When preachers ima churches onee begin — getting broad it-does not take long to get a good deal broader than Christ and the apostles. ~