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.6 'cHiHSTlA N If EKAL13: - - - - -f-—: r— — ..................___________________________ ,______ :-------------- 10, etc. was > Conclusion—Th«*, ten eoinmand- we 'see- Abimelech regards the com- .given la'cause they had broken the mamlmciit ami would have execut ments wyre given before tin* law ten commandments. (Mr. Jones, Synop.i. of DiMCUn.iou on th«- Sabbath, was «riven from' Simy. Nell. ix. ed its penalty.-^ ' commencing June M.-», IHS‘4, he-bl at He asks where the penalty of had 1 m * ou arguing that there were 13, 14. ' Farmington, W. T., between Kid. C. <J. ‘ the ten commands was from two laws,, the law of God or the ten Wright, of the Church of Christ, and ELD. WRUiHT S FOURTH REPLY. The moral law commandments which was law No. 11 U mpyinTu i t«» A1*. Jn n i *i i; flc ec ni l»J a y--A4-- S==!=y!a=S!S-»gS!!!!^^ I want to. know whether we are »¡s that which was given by the ten ! T7an<l thi/Tlu bl Md."i \ Wilt wim ■ vpntl.t,' debating the subject of stealjng, 1 commandments. Black in added IN•<;i use - óf trai isgrpsfliqn _ _________ Judge Black killing or committing adnftrry, cmr Thè Gospel Tris reply to Thge'rsoll said, “The which was law No. 2 RROPJJSl TION—Rcsoli^d, lluCt are we debating the Sabbath. -It ten commamlmcnts is the moral and was preach«*«! in the wilderness. tl^Seventh day of the week is the was alvxiys wrong for- men to steal impregnable law of God.’’ 1 will Sacrifices and offerings were kept Sabbath of the Lord, and as such kill, and commit adultery.-» ,4 > - - It give Webster’s definition of cove up until Christ who was the end of was given at c cation, and all men seems I • have to reply to a speech limit, A mutual agreement of two that 4uwemonifddtìrwr^tTirist is now -± ill i n< f. c< >1 nun tti Mi* in the Gosm*l and was then in form. adultery, etc. In regard to its be commambm*nts a mutual agree Men now repent and are TiapTizwF if holy unto the Lord. ■ ing wrong to kill, steal’ etc , I ad ment ami was it faulty? The law into Christ. If any man sin we Eld. Jones affirms and Eld. Wright mit that man did sin, but there of the Lord is perfect, not “ faulty.”, have an advocate with the Father. was no penalty of death until the God wrote it, not Moses. I John ii. 1,2; also the Lord’s sup denies. days of Moses. Rom v. 13, “ I ntrl Jer. xi. 15‘. Ex-, xix. 4. The per is institute«! as a memorial, etc. .Jer. ((Jontinu^l^Z.. ” the law/’sln was not in th«* world, t«Ti command m ♦ *nts is~thv covenant See Ht4t.-tx-.-ihL*- Without the shed.. but sin ■ - is • not imputed when there I for thousands of - nations. Gotl’s ‘«ling of bloo«I there is no remission. - MR. JONES’ FOURTH SPEECH. is no law,” etc. If that law had law had- a penalty which was death. How do-we show our faith in the All men art* commanded to keep been in existence^ why'was Cain-; Will tlie Tfld. say the only penalty offering of Christ? In the me the Sablaith. What is required to not put to death ? I say there [ was to be stone«! to death .? • morial of Christ. The form, of the •sustain that part of the proposition ? was no law 'the penalty of which I What were the commandments Gospel shoWs our faith, in Christ,. If I should rea«l a S«*ripture to that was d«;ath, Abraham kept. Joshua xxiv. 2, 3 IL* saves his people from their sins, effect, that man was comman«le«l to Now, if tlu* command to keep Joshua said taall'thepeople, “Your ami we preach that salvation in the keep it, certainly it? would he all the seventh day was then*, why fathers s«*rve«l other gods. Abra Gospel of Christ. Th«- righteous that is required Webster’s defini does he not fiml it’? The proposi ham s<-rv«*«l th® trm* God.” Ther«*- ness of Go«l is shown by faith. tion of commamT is “ bid,” “ order,” tion is that all men art* ami were for«* he got the bl«'*ssing. Isa. xlii. Heb. xi. 4. How was th«1 Gosp«*l “ dir«*ct,” “ charge,” etc. (Refers to Ac«>mman<le<l to keep it, etc., and 21. preached in the wilderness ? By Gen. ii 2, 3, reads Dr. Young’s Con- that this commaml was given at I offerings, ‘etc. Thus the righteous- El.1>ER WRKHITS FIFTH REPLY. ' cordanc«* and “gives a versiiyi of the creation" fet liini prmgg jt. ------ H T uto of find was shown-by faith.-------- Hebrew from which “ sanctified ” is Moreover, he cannot show that j I find very little in my. brother’s ‘‘It was therefor«* n«‘c«*ssnry that rendered, that it ha«l by implicativni correct time was kept for 2,500 ; last sp*e«'h to reply to. H«* brings thepatt«*rns of tilings in the h«*av«,*ns the force of a com mam I. ) Zeph years. He says there were-two! up the cast* of Abimel«*«*h, showing should be puriti«*«l with these, but.' 1. 7. “ Hol<l thy peace at the pres ’lawy. Ono he ends No. I; th«* that h«* was al>out to ex«*cnt«t Go«l’s 'the heavenly things themselves ent«* of the Lord thsl, for the «lay other No. 2. lawT 'I’liat wax Abimelech’s law. -with Iwtter things than these, Heb. of the Lord is at hand; for the Buck’s 'I'heological Dictionart* As ,-r king lu* ha«l a right to punisIT ix. 23. “ In that, th«* law was Lor«I hath prepare«I sacrifice, he says tlu’re was no correct timl* for wi«*ke«l ness Janu s - peak s of weak thróugh the» H«*sh, (lo<l s«*n«l- hath lad his guests.” All livre are kept until Moses. Also sv<* \\ at- th«* rofut law, to lov«* on«?s n<*igly ing his own son in the likeness of i-ontmamhsl to k«*<‘p it. It is a pro sons—dictionary, page 831.' 11< l«»r as om* s self,-which was m*v«.*r sinful flesh, and for sin condemn«*«! clamation. li my opponent takes .says the nations of eartH must Ravel in the trm <*omimuidiu«*nts. Dent. .sin in th«* Mesh.” Rom. viii. 3. a position that we are not coin got the Sabbath fromrits observance Vj G, xix. 8, Now I do not undcr- What Is "it the law could not do t mande'l to keep it, he must admit liefore Moses. I guess they gpt it stand him when lie says the cove It could not give life. Rom. x.-1<>. that it is a blank. If the Sabbath from th«* Jews. Now I will prove nant is the law covenant., Please 2 Kings ii. 19. John vii. 38. 2 t<> .any- was never given ,, - __ 4*y-~hia_owri autlxn ity that Gtsl’s lead Jer. xxxi. 31 ; lleb. viii.; Luke Ti’m.'i. 2. 2 Kings iv. 38, +1. * but Jthe . chil'lren of Israel, how <li«l all th«* law was AT oscs * law. - (JL*' qimtcs x. 2,5. This litw we tint! is om* to Christ is put in and death is tak nations of earth get it ? In fifty from Ellen G. White ) give*, eternal life. Matt. xxii. 3G. en away. We cannot keep the out 'of seventy-five languages, the John i. 13. * The law wasgiven 1 >y The great commandment in this royal lav) without keeping the ten Sabbath is use«l, or sp>k«*n. If it Mds«*s, hut grac«* ami truth came by law on which hangs the law' and commandments, Heb ix. 28. Jews was never given^to any but the Jesus Christ.” If the law was giv the prophets was no part of the received the nexv law. Jer. xxxi. chihlren of Isra«*l, how <li«l the fifty en, of course the t«*n coinmaml- ten commandments. “ For. finding 31. Heb. viii. Isa xlii. 21. Mag- out of seventy-five get it?. In ments were given. John vii. 19. fault,” he saith, “ I will make a nify the,law. Exalt the law. Psa. Archbishop Esher’s work .in the “ Di«I not Moses give the Jaw an«I new covenant.” Is it for me to say xl. G, 10. No man on earth can Asiatic Journal it issahl th«* name yet none of- you keepeth th«* law. 'this is not the covenant that God keep the ten commamlmcnts with of the first Chinese King in China Why go ye about to kill in«* ? ” ' ■ hr made? He was to write his» Jaws out the spjrjt of God is in his heart. means Noah. The ancient Chinese as much as to say Moses gave you in their hearts, Are See Heb. ix. 1. Matt. v. 1, 17. “Think not that I kept the Sabbath ami got it from the law that says *■ Thou slialt n«»t “ It ha<l ceremonies of divine ser have come to destroy the law but ” ami you are trying to break vice,” etc. Noah. 7 In -the ’ ’ ruins of Babylon kill. ____ “ When Moses hari to fulfill.” “ Verily 1 say unto you and Nineveh they find tablets with ;J that law in seeking my iitb ¥eVj spoken-every precept of the law,”* till heaven and earth pass;“ one jot inscriptions of the Sabbath. “ I he H)y friend -------- says, ... , “ Mose< never , gavel etc. “ For this cause he'(Christ' is. i or tittle shall in nowise pass away, »> King «lid not ride in his chariot on the ten coimyamlmcnts. They were i I the mediator of a liettei* covenant that day.” Notice Deut v. “ Mo given at creati<»n. Acts xxviii. 23.. etc. Nnm.'xv. 20: Ex. xxxi. 13, 14. one jot or tittle shall not fail till all ses calle«l all Israel,”etc. “The Lonl He says in Gen. xxvi., that “ Abra There is no law without its penalty. liefulfilled.” “Whosoever shall break our Go«l made* a covenants with us ; ham obeyed his • commandments.” Where there is no penalty there rs 'done of these least commandments in Horeb.” Definition of covenant. What commandments di<l Abraham no law. The tep commamlmcnts is etc., shall be called- least in the 1st. An agre«*ment 2«1. Terms of oliey ? Read the 25tn chapter and a law and as such has Rs penalty. kingdom of heaven.” ' agi*«*ement. I admit the ten com you will see. He goes to Deut. v., There was no penalty front Aijgip ELpER ^’R|qqTb sixth REPLY: mandments are his commanded and tries to evade the argument. to Mowcg. I shall answer the Ja&L-part of covenant.- I)«*ut. iv. The Covenant E$. xx., Ex xxiv. 21 andjKXxiv. 21. mr . jones ' s sixth speech . theBra ’sspeectr. in the fifth of Deut, was not the ten “'He was there forty days and for- . 1st. Please turn to Numbers xv. Commamlmcnts. Ex. xix. 10, 10- ty nights and he wrote the words ! Refers toH«-brewx^iyr“'47 ’ '*ads • I will now show that they had th«* j of tie" the margin The ceremonial law 3-,’:{7.„ ------ Here - ------- we have an - account the covenant, covmant, the /r/i /cn «•«»/// ithe-«+ttrgin ------- • ' .9. '■ A2-H ’ ' ’iX7'xx7i “— " ----- i added because of cl transgression — °* what they were required to do C6iijman<lments liefore the giving of mente. IMt- Tl»e first covenant was dedicate«! ; under that Sabbath law, and I de the law. Gen. xxvi. 3,4, 5. Ex. xvi. lleuL rx. Jtt ;1 Ring viip ‘J. nrjfh hjonit; Ex. xxiv. 7, 8. “ Did fy Jitfii to show when the penalty 4,28. I will now «how that the MR. JON ES’ •FIFTH SPEECH. was ever done nations of__tlm—earth before Abra not Moses give you and nOHPflf Y<m of Sabbath hr In the case .of Isaac afid Abime- keepeth the , 1’.. law. ’__ ” John \ ii. ham Tad th«* commandments Gt'P- ’ , Gen. xxvi. .11, .Acts^xxvm- 2X TheJitw . Il, Abiimlcch Abimelech also also^Vds^x-mti. Th«* law «>f • If his little congregation strictly xx. 1, 15 Gen. xxxv. 1, 5. fed), c aR Iii*Hpeoplr~saviilg, " He" Moses was the’form of the Gospel obeyed that law, they would all lie Lev. xviii. 21 ; xix 22. Gen, ‘ix. ehargeiL 20, 24. Ex.I A, 48.—G cje xxxi. that toiicbeth tuis M»an or his'wife 1 of Jesus Christ. There* must lie a in the penetentiffiry. before twelve shall surely be put tv death.’ IL.ix I Jaw- before transgression. Lev. iv. months. We will now go to tho 29, 31. Ex. xviii. 21 DEBATE. 1 i 1 ♦ -------- ’ ~ ■ 7 ♦. ’ *. < I VU UMV ■ * ' *“ “ “ ------------- I
