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By EON GEMMELL The fight game took a far ther tumble locally when Lar ry Capo to took that questioned slide Into' the resin Thursday night after Midnight Bell lipped, him a glancing poke on the- pate. Aa far a Promoter Jack Wilson Is concerned, who was also referee. It wm an out right steal" and he demanded that Caputo's purse be held an. Wilson, who came Into this of- flee right after the fight, said: "Yon can go an far as yon like in saying that-as far as I am ; concerned Capnto took it lay ing down and was no more knocked out than you or I. Hands Hide Shame. "I can't understand it,' said "Wilson: "I Just seem to get the tough breaks. I'd seen this Canuto fight once before, and be did a good Job. lie came to me with the best of recommendations; " I fully expected tbatl It would be a tough scrap only to have the guy lay down on me. Wilson made no attempt to count Caputo out, as he lay face down in Bell's own corner, with his hands stretched up over his face. "That's another thing," Wilson went on. "when a .guy Just flops to the can- ras and sticks his arms tip over his face, he isn't hurt. I've seen too many boys really kayoed. When they pull that trick they're merely ashamed to show their faces." Bell Cocks Left. ' There Is no ouMtion hut what Capnto was hit. both when he was supposedly kayoed in the second and when he went down for a nine count in the . first. But bow hard- he was hit is debatable. He didn't appear the least bit hurt when he arose after the nine-count first-round knockdown. On the contrary, he looked fresh as a daisy and was agile enough to stay out of the way. of a bobbing, wear log, two-handed attack that Bell immediately unleashed. Bell really started letting loose of his punches after the first . knockdown. The dusky Tort lander would feint Caputo open and then let drive with left hooks, which were connecting, but not with vital spots. - Damaging Evidence. What made Wilson certain that Caputo did a fadeout was that the Italian didn't' want to get up when he was floored In the first canto. Referee Jack as much as helped him to his feet, however. Insisting that he go on. The odd thing about the whole affair was that Caputo looked like a falr-to- middlln puncher when he was standing in there trading 'em with Bell. He didn't have any of the earmarks of the ordinary stumble- bum who is tossed a fiver to take a powder against some good scrapper with whom- he hasn't -tbe chance of free speech in Germany, and his manager getting the gate cut. A little heavy around the mid - section, yes, but his belly roll would look like a fly speck, on Soldier field In. comparison with that toted about by Two-Ton Tony Galento. the New York heavy weight beer barrel. BelVs Manager Speaks. Harry Eagles, who is Bell's owner and manager, also dropped in after the tiff and we asked him what he thought about the deal. Harry frankly admitted that It didn't look good to him but that he wasn't just certain. . "I'm not merely." trying to brag up my boy when I ten you that this Bell really can hit, said Harry, "and 1 know that be connected with - Capnto all right because It hap pened . in Bell's corner where I was standing and watching every move. Harry said, how ever, that it looked like a glanc ing blow and he thought it too high to do that much damage. S. S. Hooked too. Whether Caputo capitulated or was conked out, the effects on the valiant attempt by the local boxing commission to bring the fight game back here are the same, because of the way It hap pened. Ringsiders were vehement in their denouncement of the deal, despite the fact that they got" their money's worth in the preliminary bouts. Salem fight fans are unduly critical, but prob ably with ample past provoca tions. They've been stood up o many -times that they are cynical to the nth degree whenever there Is the least reason for so being. In concluding this little review of a "bad taste." however, we wish to make it plain that both Wilson and the boxing commission were ' acting in the best of faith when they signed the fight. Both be lieved they really baa something to offer Salem fight followers. In turn, we strung, along , with em, which put us further out on the leafless limb than it did them Maybe Barnum was 100 per cent . right. Mt. Angel Enters Reed's Carnival MT. ANGEL Frank Alhrlch, i Ted Marx. Edward Jobb, Charles Christensen and Robert Barrsll were selected to represent ml Angel college in the first annual i sports carnival to ne held at Re-i i college Saturday. May 21. ml Anrel will enter a four-man golt team and a single and double ping . pong-, team- Albrlch. Marx i John and -Christensen will Tonn the golf team. Aibrlch and Bar rel! will play bt the singles ping pong tournament and team up for the double. -,, Entered ta the Inter-collegtate contests are Willamette- nnrrer- aity, Portland university, souTa rn Oregon Normal. Oregoav Nor mal, Pacific university, Mt. Angel college and iteea eoueg. Mate Mi Franklin Star Bestsl32 Feet Dill Smith, Saleni,. Second in Century andi 220 Yards Events COfcVALLIS. May 20-V-One new field mark was set and one track time I tied in the prelim inaries of the 14th annual Ore gon State, high school track and tield meet, run elf today In per fect weather. " Ryan of Fran-tlin high school. Portland, flung the discus 13 2 feet 7 Inches to ' reak tne pre vious state record of 131 ieet 111,4 inches set In 1935 by An- dciKn Of . Rooseslt. Under the rules. Ryan's mart will stand and count for points in the finals tomorrow unless it is bettered. Jenkins of Athena sterpod tne 440 in :51.2. ty.ng the state record posted by Schriver of Jef ferson high. Tor Hand, in 1935. The eastern Oregon runner fin ished with a big lead and might better the time f pressed In the finals. i Two Portland runners. Hallo- way of Washington and Edward of Grant were "irst in the hign and low hurdle events respective ly and their times automatically became records for newly aarptea heights and distances. Schults of Forsst Urovc was first in the 100 and zzo-yara dashes, and qualified in the t road- jump, i The finals begin Saturday ai 1:30 p.m. Salem aad nearby part. -Hants placing were: 120-yard hurdles (third heat) Won by Blahchard. DaUas. Discus. (qitalUled) yan. Franklin. 132 feet 7i inches; Miller, Salem. 121 feet. 10 inches: Moddemeyer. Amu, Ji feet, 11 inches, new state record. Pole vault - (qualified) fut- a " A . A nam. saiem. uraoas. uimuc, Frakes. Scappoose, imdrey. vena. Evans. West Linn. Munro, Grant. All qualified by vaulting 10 feet. 10 inches.! 220-yard dash (third h?ai) Schultz, Forest Grove; Mnuu. Salem, second. Time :22 6. Half mile relay (first Heat) Won by Washington high. Port land; Salem, second; Bend tnira. Time 1:34.2. . . 100 yard dash (second neati won by Scbultz, Forest Grove; Smith, Salem, second. Time, :10.1. Decimated Viking 9 Meets Indians Ineligibility Deducts two of Hank's Hurlers on Eve of Encounter Hard hit by 'ineligible-itis." the Viking baseball team never theless will go. Into action tnis ai ternoon no dinger in a double- header bill with the Chemawa In dians. Games begin at 1:30. Two of ! Coach Hauk's Ilingers have been deducted irom nis player roster by the "affiliation" route, leaving a much-depleted nltchine staff. Bud Eland, who pitched outstandingly, against Sil- verton Wednesday, naa oeen oui of , action for three weeks previ ously with a sad case of "theme- itls" and now he, as wen as Southpaw I LeRoy Bright, have been declared out of tne picture on a secret society count. "Theroe-itis" Troubles Roger Quackenbush, regular third baseman, has had a side line seat for the last two weeks, he also having scholastic difficul ties. : . i ' Coach Hauk had Jack Stelger, veteran first-sacker, doing mound work practice yesterday and Thursday, with the expectation he'd have to send tne hUsity sen ior in if George Wilkinson and Jack Cosset, only remaining pitchers, fall to deliver. Bearcats Extract Win on Dentists S : - ' ' Willamette university's golf team scored a clean sweep over North Pacific Dental college on the Saiem Golf club course Fri day, 18 to 0. Summary:. WU (18) If. P. Dental (O) Layne 3 - Morton 0 Johnson S Ott 0 LaVatta 2 Kahns 0 Bennett 3 Melliase 0 Bickner 3 Parker 0 Putnam S : Hampton 0 Hey, Fill Out This Registration' Slip and Enter the Free Baseball School Conducted by the : Legion and The Statesman . : ; Eligibility Ages 14 to 18 " NAME. (Place your full name ADDRESS (Ctly, street, or your AGE. How many years Wkst .position de yen wish to FIRST CHOICE Bring this slip at'oaea to Parkera Sporting Goods Store, X7S State street or to The Oregon: Statesman. 215 South Commercial, j 'School starts Kay 23, Howard JIapIa, Instructor. , , - Bearcat Rally j Beats linfield 7-Run Splurge in Ninth Decides It 12 to 8; Errors Aplenty I . r WALLA WALLA. May 20-;p) With a seven-run splurge in the first half of the ninth Inning the Willamette Bearcats defeated Lin field, 12 to 8, here this afternoon In a Northwest conference base ball playoff ! " I ! i The game was loosely played and 10 Linfield errors helped the victors. Willamette collected 1 a dozen hits off Belcher and Cecil, while Weaver and White were touched for 11 by the losers. I Play Again Today ! Linfield defeated Willamette yesterday afternoon and Whitman did the same thing last night. To night the Missionaries play Lin field and tomorrow Whitman will meet both visiting teams in an afternoon . donblebeader. ; The short score: Willamette 004 001 007-12 12 1 Linfield ..000 021 410- 8 11 10 Weaver, White and Moe; Bel cher, Cecil and Brostrom. Northwest's Net WU Is Host for Tourney; Play Startg at 9 a.m. on Three Courts - Northwest college conference tennis championships will be held on Salem courts today, with Wil lamette university host school to Linfield, Albany, Whitman. Col lege of Idaho, College of luget Sound and P.aeific, cumber schools. s ; Bud Gllmore, .anky freshman, is Willamette's hope to 'cop the men's singles tiara, with George Gutekunst and Bud Estes sched uled to carry Bearcat hopes in doubles play. - l -..) Barbara Kurtz will go tbe solo route for the local college's wom en's team, with Ruth Yocom and France Faber playing doubles. Leslie and Oliger courts will be' utili2eT for the rellra'nary rounds, as well "as Willamette's four courts, beginning at 9 o'clock this morning. Finals, set for the Willamette court, will begin at 2:30 this .afternoon. COAST LEAGUE (Before Night Games) : W. L. Pet. .596 .532 .532 .511 .500 .489 .489 .354 Portland 28 Hollywood -2 5 San Diego ,25 Sacramento 24 19 22 22 23 24 24 24 31 Seattle 24 San Francisco . 23 Los Angeles ..23 Oakland 17 AMERICA X LEAGUE W. L. Pet. .679 .654 .625 .54$ .450 .440 .333 .269 Stars Here Today League Standings Cleveland ! . . 1 9 ! 9 Boston : 17 ! 9 New York , 15 9 Washington 17 14 Chicago 9 11 Detroit . 11 14 Philadelphia . . 8 16 St. Louis ..... . 7 19 NATIONAL LEAGUE W. L. ? Pat. 19 i 7 .731 .17 12 .586 12 11 .522 14 14 '.500 . 12 13 .500 . 12 13 .4&0 2 18 .400 , . . 17 .261 New Tork . Chicago . Boston ... Cincinnati , rPittsburgh . St. Louis -Brooklyn . Philadelphia COAST LEAGUE ' ; San Francisco ..4 10 0 Portland 1 3 12 1 StuU and Woodall; Darrow, Radcnlts and Dickey. San Diego Oakland . . .4 2 6 7 Ward and Hogan; Van .Fleet. Pyle and Raimondi. Los Angeles ..3 SeatUe : i. . 7 Berry, Salveson and Gregory and Spindel. - 5 i ; 1 12 2 Sueme; Kids! and nickname here.) rural or town address.) have yoa played ball?. play?. second cnoicc ,t.i AYBE Branch Rickey was smarter than we thought when he sold . Dizzy Dean for 3185,000 and three players. Dizzy's trick arm is acting up again, and nobody knows whether he, will ever regain his old pitching power. Right now he is resting the temperamental soupbone on the or ders of the club physician, who diag nosed the trouble as slight tear in the fibres of the right deltoid muscle. , At any .rate, the recurrence of Orr Ties Century Mark at Seattle Robinson Qualifies, Three Events ; UO Obtains Six Places SEATTLE, May 20-;p)-FquaK Ing tbe meet record of 9.5 sec onds in the 100 -yard dash. Lee Orr, fancy stepping sprinter, led the Washington State Cougars to nine qualifying places in the pre liminary events here today on the northern division Pacific Coast conference track and field meet Championships will be decided tomorrow. Orr tied the century - mark hung up by Bob Shoemake of Oregon three jears ago. even though he took the trouble to turn and watch his competitors as he ran the last 20 yards. He also qualified for the 220-yard dash and low hurdles. . , Mack Robinson, Oregon negro speed-ball, also qualified in three events, winning the second .100 yard heat in 9.7 seconds, and the first heat lows in 24 2. and fin ished - second .o Pettichoid of Washington State in the 220 yard dash. ; Oregon gained six ; placet, Washington five and Oregon State and Montana each two in tbe four events in which heats were held today. - Idaho failed -o land a place. Although trying for nine. - John Emlgh. Montana- cinder ace, landed the only spot for the Crizxlies, finishing third in the century and first In his heat of the 220 in 22.2 seconds- San Luis General Says Army Coming SAN LUIS POTOSL Mexico. May 2 0- ( Friday )-(JP)-Gen. Sat urnino Cedillo, accused by P res La zaro Cardenas of plotting a re volt, told The Associated Press this morning he had been Inform ed federal troops would attack him today. - J" The agrarian leader said he had "trustworthy" information the president waa planning to "try to crush me by force of arms." SnitcherTIiller Dies EDDYVILLE. Ky. May 20- (FTiday) -CSV-Troy Triplett, 22. died in the electric: chair at the state penitentiary here early to day for the elaytnx of Dolphy . Hall at WhltesbaTg. Be said Hail 1 -snitched" on him. j ILMscus Mark Mrokent rejsoaitatcmaatt Salem, Oregon, Saturday Morning:, May Ailing Arms By BURNLEY- THE BEHAVIOR OF MS JAIUAJG ARM -M UUGO. 6 ''MU.YAJ Acf ALSO HAS A "TEMPERAMENTAL, riTCHlAkS UJIAJG t PtTCHlNG PfZOBLSM S Chicago's Moujy -JSr&TTOAf --"THE SOX BEST" M Aki Of n CUniu npn 'run Dean's arm ailment may mean' the death blow to the Cubs' flag hopes. On the other side of the Windy City, the White Sox have their own sore arm problem. Monte Stratton, who was- the Chisox mound ace last year, aggravated an old shoulder in jury this Spring, and it remains to be seen whether he will be of much use to Jimmy Dykes. . Mickey Cochrane, Detroit leader, would give a lot to find a specialist who could permanently cure School- Master Is Shot By Squirrel Dog STUTTGART, Ark., May 20-JPl A squirrel dog shot and killed his master on a hunting trip here yesterday. Will Duke, 38, Timber ' over seer, and two companions were hunting with the dog near Cass coe. When Duke handed a dead squirrel to one of the other hunters, the dog leaped for the game, struck and discharged a small caliber rifle, killing Duke. Rockets Winners Over Scotts Mills HUBBARD The Hubbard high school "Rockets" blasted Scotts Mills high 15 to 0 In a baseball game Thursday; This was the last Marlon county B league game for Hubbard. Orolsant. Hubbard pitcher, had the MilIs boys hand cuffed throughout the game, al lowing only two hits. Gant, Hub bard first baseman, led tbe hit ters with a triple and two singles in four times at bat. Scotts Mills ... . 0 2 Hubbard 15 r 18 0 Lippert and Smithrud; Croisant and Moomaw. US, Venezuela Sign WASHINGTON, May 20 The United States and Venezula have signed a provisional commer cial agreement granting each. Oth er most-favored-nation treatment. the state department announced tonight.' . ; .... -s . is i i i " ' - - ' - : : - - il . . PLAIT S1U7 - Catena GolO !Eab; 1 1 Mile South on River Road J ; GREENS FEES Week days, 50c all day. S 21, 1938 Coy -ftJFTHfi SCHOOLBOYS TRICK- ARM WAS DEPENDABLE AGAIAS. IT . AlGHT" eE DETUatTS lEAflf boy Rowe's "wing trouble.- The Schoolboy might regain his former brilliant form if his confidence in that erratic arm could be restored. Brooklyn's bad arm boy is the noted Van Mungo, whose wing wor ries are said to resemble Diz Dean's. The Dodger) star's fireball has been conspicuous by its absence since he complained of a sore arm last sea son. - h CaerrUM. ltlb to SJas rwuva STadlcata. la 3- Indians Continue To Set Fast Pace Fifth Row Taken Over Solon$; Boston Takes Wild One 16 to 2 ;.V CLEVELAND, May 20.-0" The league-leading Cleveland In dians, determined to stay in first place, bunched six hits for- live runs in the second inning against Washington today for their fifth consecutive victory, 6 to 3. Mel Amada and Johnny stone both hit home runs for Washing ton, but the bases were vacant. Earl Avefill produced a super fluous homer for Cleveland is the eighth. I Washington 3 10. .1 Cleveland , 10 ( Leonard!, Hogsett and R.; Fer rell, Giuliani; Allen and Pytlak. ,,iieries Tied Vp ' DETROIT. May 20.-iP)-Tbe Philadelphia Athletics scored a 5 to 2 victory today that squared their series with the ' Detroit Tigers. - " Philadelphia . 5 8 Detroit i . .2 5 - Thomas, Potter and Brucker; Roe, Coffman, Lawson and Teb- betts. ...... ' Red Sox Run Wild ST. LOUIS. May 20.-'-The Boston Red Sox laid down a 22 hit barrage today to defeat the lowly St. I Louis Browns. 16 to 2 Boston IS 22 St. Louis 2 8 Grove and Desautels; Walkup, Cole, VanAtta, BonettI, II. Mills and Heath. . 'A? mar Saturdays, 50c for 9 Holes, 75c an ;-" V day. ;, . .'wV' . - ! Sundays and holidays, 50e for 9, $1.C0 all day.' v Special rales ly nenlh or year. Wm Can Furnish Ereryihing Ycufiesd PAGE NINE Leading Giants Blanked Again Margin Cut to 3 Due to Third Straight Loss ; . Cubs Slug Apple NEW YORK, , May 20.-JF)-Sparked by Johnny Vandermeer'i five-hit job of- whitewash pitch ing and Ernie Lombardi's big bat. the Cincinnati Reds handed the Giants their second Straight shut out, today, winning by 4 to 0. The setback shaved the Giants National league lead to 3 Vi games over the Chicago. Cubs, and stretched their losing streak to three in a row. Only one Giant got as far as third base, and only five reached second. . The Reds got to Hal Schu macher and Clyde Castleman for nine hits one of them Lombardi's third homer of the year, which came with Ival Goodman on base in the seventh. ' . Cincinnati ........ 4 9 2 New York .0 5 0 Vandermeer and Lombard!; Schumacher, Castleman and Dan- nlng. ' ; Cubs Make Hay PHILADELPHIA. May 20.-(P) The Chicago Cubs, clouting 22 hits off three pitchers, came out on top of the Phillies 16 to 7 today In a wild slugging ball game. Chicago ........ . 16 22 0 Philadelphia 7 15 3 Carleton. Russell and Hartnett, Garbark; Walters. Hallahan. Reis and Atwood, Clark. Pirates Bombarded BROOKLYN. May 20.-UP-The Dodgers took a liking to some mediocre Pittsburgh oitchinr to day and whipped the Pirates 7 to 6 with a 12-hit attack. Pittsburgh .... 5 8 1 Brooklyn " .........7 12 2 Lucas. Brown. Blanton. Sewell and Todd; Mungo, Pressnell and Phelps. Title Is Captured By WoodburnHigh Defeats Silverton 7 to 2 in Decisive Came for Clean , Season Slate WOODBURN Woodburn high school's Bulldogs won the . WVI baseball championship Fridy aft ernoon at Legion park as they downed Silverton 7 to 2. It was the seventh, straight victory for the Wood burns who were un defeated in league play,; The victors scored early in the first as Stetter, shortstop, crossed the pay slab, tallied another in the same inning and the out come was never in doubt there after. The Bulldogs scored an other in the fifth and four in the seventh. -.1 -. Big Whitman. VoOdburn hurl er, was the jstar of the game, hitting 3 out, of 4 for a r'ngle, double and triple. On the mound. he allowed fire hits and fanned five, compared to Pettyjohn's 12 hits allowed.. Pettyjohn fanned six." . Silverton . ...... .. . .2 5 1 Woodburn ....... ...7 12 4 Pettyjohn and M. Simmons; Whitman and Reed. Umpires: Voget ' and -Hunt. . Farley Backs Lehman NEW YORK, May 20 -JP)- Postmaster General Janes 'A. Fa rlev. state and national demo cratic chairman, tonight delivered an endorsement of Gov. Herbert H. Lehman In a tpeecb in some quarters as approval of a fourth term for the I incumbent. r LinMo eat.;. ... deitdous to dnirk- What a temptation the - appetite........ thl "rpeckl beauty fried to a goldei brown crispnessl - What a fittins companion of fine food isthUUGHT, .. rmild, delicately flavored . via uonemun type ia;cr. , 1 n Xiqht Export Ilamage's, Distributors Phone S7SI 95 Get Viking Sport Awards 36 Go for Major Athletic Participation, 59 on Blinor Sport List Ninety-five athletic a;"w a r d s were presented at Senior high this spring, 36 of them being ma jor letters for baseball and track end 59 being minor awards, for tennis, swimming, "B" basketball, boxing, wrestling and sophomore basketball. Baseball awards made by Cosch Harold Hauk: Kenneth Swingle, Don Kelley, Jack Stelger, Hubert George Wilkinson. Ken neth Buchanan;' Paul Barham. Virgil Sebern. Ko Ed Yada, Frank Evans. - Dull Sullivan, Clinton Wampler, Don Barnich, Roger Quackenbush, Jack Gosser, and Gil James, manager. Track Lists Many Track, letters presented by Coach Vera Giimore: Bill Smith and Art Miller, three - year awards; Bob Ewinc. two-year; and one-year awards to Rex Put nam, Don Wooden, Eugene Hill man, Allan Toole, Harris HoeTet, Lyle Brown. Lloyd Chapman, Jim Rickards. George Smith. Stuart Nelson, Bob Bailey. Bill Shlnn, Daryl Mason, Roy Murphy.--Leon-ard Williams and Dorval Binegas, manager. Wrestling, awarded by Coach Vera Gllmore: Hisoshl Shishido. John Sugai and Curtis Emory. two-year awards; one-year awards to Bob Allen. Wayne Snyder, Bob Baker, Jack Elwood, Henry Tan- aka. Bob Boatright, Bill Huff man. Milton Hartwell. Claude Kil- gore, Clau le Swingle, George Barham, WJllie McCarrolI, Dave Nyberg, Tom Tandy and Virgil Bolton, manager. , Boxing, awarded by Cotter Gould: Malcolm Carter, Don Harms, Robert Ohlson, Cordon Harrold, Rosco - Dickey, Marvin O'Brien, John Dirks, Clarence Soliday, Herbert Schlicker, Allen Smith and Wilson Scott, manager. Five In Tennis Tennis, awarded by Coach Wes ley Boeder: Dick Chambers, Boh Lasky. Hume Downs, Bud Moyni- hin. Rill Carrol. . Swimming, awarded by Coach Clark: Ned Burris, Joe Law, Ken. neth Ruecker, Bob Downs, Her bert' Hoffman. "B" basketball, awarded by Coach Garnee Pranor: Norman Hinges, Bob Cameron, Ray Far- mr T jrn TCornB. Hnh McKpp. Craig Randall, Darol Mason, Frank Evans. Sophomore basketball numer als, awarded by. Cotter Gould: Don'Barncik, Leo Thorton, Stan ley Sanford, Cy Williams, Russel Satter, Mark. Tweed, Don Burton, Robert East, Jim Henry, Vinton Scott, Vernon Scott and Don Woodburn, manager. ffigh-Flying OSC Nine Blanked 4-0 PULLMAN. May 20-)-The Washington State college Cougars turned on the pressure and bunched six hits to blank the conference-leading Oregon State Bea vers 4 to 0 in the first game of their baseball series today. The Cougars supported the five hit pitching of Al Brannfors with almost airtight ball, only one err or being charged against the squad. Sam Eastman, WSC catcher, led the attack at the plate, driv ing in the first run with a triple in the second and then hitting for the circuit in the fourth. Sin gles' by Brannfors, Emerson and Angelp counted two for tbe Cou gars in the third. I Score: ' OSC . 5 2 WSC ...4 C 1 Takaml and Orell; Brannfors and Eastman. Crash to Be Probed LOS ANGELES. May 20 -W) Two public hearings one order ed today by the federal govern ment will be held In an attempt to determine the cause of the air plane crash which brought flam ing death to nine persons on a California mountain top Monday. MSx? H - VjS-jT 1 Jsujzr Tli.Ta " mmm" "' "