THE OREGON SUNDAY JOURNAL, PORTLAND, SUNDAY MORNING, OCTOBER 21. 1917.
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COT IN STEEL PRICES
LIKELY TO HAVE LITTLE
EFFECT ON AUTO COST
Commodity Is Just One Ele
ment In Manufacture of
Machine, Says Cole.
OTHER THINGS EXPENSIVE
Bverrtalag That Xs Used U BeHalac
Stas Taken lg Sump, to Say
sTotbing of Cost of Xbor.
NEW NATIONAL TWELVE
ELGIN DOES 5826 Ml.
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UNDER OFFICIAL SEAL
ON OLD TRAILS ROAD
The prominence which hss heen
given to the discussion of the effect
which the cut In steel prices wftt have
on automobile manufacturing, since
the agreement was reached by the
president and the .steel men of the
country, has found a ready response
and many of the men most prominent
la the motor car Industry have uttered
opinions which to prospective buyers
of automobiles should carry consider
able weight.
That a reduction of almost 60 per
cent in the orlce of steel and allied
material will have little effect oh the
price of motor cars seema to be the
belief of practically, all of the leading
builders.
Steel Hot Mala Tactor
, 3. 3. Cole, president of the Cole
Motor , Car company of Indianapolis,
has the following to say' concerning
the steel situation:
"Steel Is Just an element In auto
mobile production. It is not a de
termjning factor. Of course without
steel we cannot proceed but there is
so much more to an automobile tnan
steel that it Is not the sole barometer
gauging the cost of production.
"Furthermore raw steel and steel as
we motor car people use It are as dlf
ferent as day and night.
"You may reduce the cost of all
steel all you please but after that our
expense begins. It must be refined.
it must be made Into the parts j'vre
use, it muet be transported to our
plants.
Xabor Prices Soaring
"Each of these operations is be
coming dally more expensive. Being
compelled to place our orders for' the
so-called raw materials months and
months in advance of - the time of
which we actually expect to use it,
we will be forced to have In produc
tion from six months to a year from
now the material purchased at the ad
,, vance figure materials which cost at
least twice as much as the price de
termined on by the recent agreement.
"Further than that if the cost of
labor and machinery continues to soar
. during the coming year as it has dur
ing the last 12 months if we continue
' to meet the same or increasing
obstacles in our efforts to move the
raw stock to our plants this cost will
have mounted to such proportions by
the time we are In the market for the
cheaper steel that by the time it
reaches us it will be offset by the
other Increased cost a
"But as I stated at the outset
steel Is only a contributing element in
. .automobile manufacture. It is not
the determining element.
There Is leather and rubber, paint
and glass, aluminum and fiber, patent
device, lenses, and a score of other
materials that are increasing dally?
These are quite as Important la. tha
building of a motor car as Is steel,
and with these Increasing in price the
little difference In the price of steel
when ' It reaches us providing there
will be any difference six months from
now wtjl mean but little.
Quality Hut Se Maintained '
"Motor car manufacturers realise
that It would be good merchandising
for them at this time to reduce the
price of their product. But they
are bound hand and foot. They simply
cannot do It If they want to, and no
conscientious builder of motor cars
would consider sacrificing quality to
gain a point or two on the price side
of the ledger.
"Hence, if the manufacturer would
keep th quality of his car preserve
' the merit that has been the foundation
tone of i whatever success he" has en
Joyed he cannot hope to reduce the
price of his product one cent.
'The cost of steel under any agree
ment alone, will not do It., And there
Is no sign of relief In any other dl
- rection." :
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Trucks 12 to 15 Mi.
Oorsrsors Are XTraally Set to Allow
Speed of IS to80 Mies r Sou,
JCowerex, for Smergemey.
I What are the requirements of motor
, tracks u to speed in the war sons?
The answer to this question, so f re-
fmtn Pnrifir tn thp Mk;k- inntly "k given by Thomas
rfOiri FdCIIIC lO ine IVUbSlS-; Thomas, automobile engineers of Ie-
sippi With Hooch Clutch ZiST&SSTS ZZTJEi
and Transmission Sealed, g fZgZfSZ??
i "War trucks are normally operated
' a - ' at from 12 to 16 miles per hour, but
Traveling 626 miles from the Mis- th rw.mt-. tn i.
slsslppi river to the Pacific and re- irtw of nf it tn an miiM nr
gam with the hood, clutch and trans- houP m emergency." declared Mr.
rtnission officially sealed by represen-. Thomas. "The coventors are often
tatlves of the American Automobile ; dlahid. nn a . fnw
E. C. Habel, A. B. Manley and F. H. Ireland of the Manley Auto
' ' company, in one of the new National Twelves, with airplane motor,
received last week.
Traveling on straightaway at f leet ; of that firm.
speed, climbing hills with great wll-1 In the presence of newspapermen
lingness and ease, covering rough ' and auto salesmen, the car, which is
country with sure comfort and little equipped with the airplane, type
effort, the new National "12" received 1 motor, was taken over the various
last week by the Manley Auto com- hard hills and stretches of rough road
pany proved its worth to A. B. Man- i in the close vicinity and given a good
ley and E. C. Habel, executive officials I tryout. i
association, was the record, announced
in a telegram received last week by
A, C. Stevens In regard to the Elgin
Six National All Trails Scoot car and
war department road reporter.
not provided with governors at all.
"Most of the trucks In France are
geared so their engines will operate
continuously at IS or 20 -miles an
hour on high gear in emergency. They
This -run .breaks the world's record i are-also required to operate on second
for a sealed run and the car is in per-1 gear ur to a normal speed of 12
feet condition, cays the - telegram. ' miles per hour so ..that in an undu-
The run was made through all sorts
of weather and over roads of all
kinds. People who have not traveled
these mountain swamps and deserts
cannot appreciate the value of the
endurance feat.
When Pueblo. Colo., was reached,
Roy S. Marsh and Edward M. Law
rence, who are in charge of the car,
16ft the Old Trails road for a trip to
Denver and return. On reaching Pu
eblo again they departed for St. Louis,
and from that city will make a trio
to Chloago and return, taking up the
eastward traveling once more at St.
Louis, with Washington, D. C. as their
destination. From Washington they
will travel to New York, and thence
back to Chicago by the Lincoln high
way, where preparations will be made
for an immediate start over the Dixie
highway to Miami, via the westward
route of that highway. The return
from the South will be along the east
ern portion of the Dixie to Detroit.
The Old Trails road. 'together with
its tributaries through Arizona and
New Mexico, affords an unlimited
wealth of interest, both to the casual
tourist and to the seeker after knowl
edge in natural history, geology, arch
aeology and all other sciences per
taining to the early history and de
velopment of the human race on the
North American continent. Roy Marsh
in his report calls attention to the fact
that It would be impossible to find any
section of the United States where
the tourist could so easily spend much
time in interesting study.
lating country the - convoy is not
spread out by vehicles slowing up
on hills. The later trucks designed
have a reduction of 50 to 1 on low
gear in order that they will maneuver
on low and reverse under bad road
conditions without it being necessary
to raoe the engine in starting. .
"It is found in practice that even
the axles' do not suffer as much from
this extreme reduction as by racing
the engine and letting tho clutch in
as Is necessary with some older type
trucks sent from America"
Denver Man Makes
It Easy for Autoists
Denver, Oct. 20. Dewey C. Bailey,
manager of public safety, and Police
Chief Hamilton Armstrong are making
life for Denver motorists 'Worth; while.
Bailey discourages speeders by holding
an Informal "speeders court" dally at
his office. No fines are assessed for
first offenses, the only penalty being
exacting of a promise to read three
time a copy of the city traffic rules
furnished by the court. The offender
is-also automatically , elected to mem
bership in the Anti-Speeders club and
MOTOR AND TRUCK RECORD OF WEEK
The following temporary police per-,
mlts were obtained in Portland during
the week by new car owners, pending
the arrival of state licenses, according
to M. O. Wilklns. publisher of the
Automobile Record:
C. Chrietensen, 214 East Twenty
eighth, Dodge.
Miaa Edna McOrath. 110 Hazel Fern,
Paige.
W. E. Lacey. 919 Minnesota avenue,
Dodge.
Martin Marks Coffee company, 625
Third- street. Ford.
Alfred Dimbat, route 1, box 9, Hills
boro. O. M. C. truck.
William Frese. 508 Lumbermens Ex
change. Dodge.
C. H. Taylor, 410 East Fessenden,
Ford.
William Larsen, 689 Vaughn, Ford.
Nepon Brothers, 669 Fifth street,
irora.
Robert E. Frazler, 348 Fourth street,
O. M. C. truck-
L. Lay ton, 327 Water . street. Re
public. N. H. Alperln, 1241 Macadam road.
Ford.
Joseph Weber, 1712 Macadam rood.
Franklin.
M. J. Weiser, Second and Oregon
streets. Studebafcer.
Leo J. Malarkey, Columbia univer
sity. Ford.
M. Jespersen, 4822 Ninetieth street
southeast, Chevrolet.
P. E. Allen. 1199 High street. Wood
stock, Maxwell.
A. Lb Herin, 48 East Thirty-seventh.
Paige.
N. A. Leach, 1000 Lewis building,
Mitchell.
H. A. Clbdfelter. 1221 East Madison.
Studebaker.
W. Q. Konkught. Imperial hotel.
Master truck.
R. B. Wilcox, Wilcox building,
Packard. ,
Ernest Oisler. 91 Nevada street.
Ford. 7
E. N. Dooney, 615 East Forty-second
street north. Ford.
William Hahn, 312 Olisan street,
Ford.
Jones Market, Fourth and Alder,
Ford delivery.
H. N. Hughes. 20 East Thirty-ninth
street north, Oldsmobile.
R. W. Tate. Mitchell. Or.. Bulck.
R. Schneider, Columbia boulevard,
route i, G. M. -C. truck.
Ed Bauman, Gresham. Or., Chev
rolet. J. Maloney, '361 Chapman street,
Oldsmobile.
H. H. Anderson, 439 East Forty-fifth
street north. Ford.
Charles T. Chamberlain, Journal
building, Oldsmobile.
W. F. Jeffress, 25 Holly street,
Bulck.
John Pilgen, 682 Borthwick street,
Ford.
Walter Thompson, 325 East Eighti
eth street north. Studebaker.
C. B. Walker, 154 East Sixty-eighth
street. Ford.
Walter W. Olin. 729 Lombard street.
Ford,
G. JP, Miller. 1815 Newman street,
Ford
Boston Packing company. Third and
Ankeny, Ford.
Lee R. Denman, 322 East Clay street.
Ford.
' H. O. Flried, 444 Belmont street.
Mitcneu.
pledged to help the authorities enforce
the peed ordinances.
Chief . Armstrong's sone, system
will practically put the auto thief out
of existence. The plan includes, post
ing policemen in sentry boxes connect
ed with toeadquartera If a car la sto
len these sentries are notified and
every car leaving the city Is challenged
while motor cops scour the city for the
stolen car.
Joint Meeting for r
Road Associations
A joint meeting of .the Interstate
Highway association and the Idaho
fixate Evergreen Highway association
will be held at Lewiston. Idaho, No
vember 7 and 8, which promises to be
the largest and most interesting ever
held in the West. The governors from
Oregon. Washington, Idaho and Mon
tana have accepted invitations to at
tend and the state highway commis
sioners of three of the states will be
present. The program will Include ad
dresses by Frank Terrace, widely
known, good-roads apostle of Orllla,
Wash.; Herbert Cuthbert, secretary of
the Pacific Northwest Touring asso
ciation; I. M. Howell, secretary of
state of Washington; L. L Hewes of
Portland, district engineer, United
States office of public roads; Edward
A. Van Slcklin. member of the state
Ughway commission of Idaho, and
others conspicuously active in an ef
fort to more fully capitalise the scen
ery and climate of the West by en
couraging an Increase of automobile
travel.
Heavy Oil Declared
Best If Auto Is Old
After a motor has seen reasonably
long service, so that the pistons do
not fit as closely In the cylinders as
they did at first it is advisable to
use a hvAvler grade of oil, in order to
take up a little of the clearance.. In
racing motors, whre the plston-to-cyllnder
clearance is often more than
twice that used In ordinary practice,
the drivers use heavy oil. High vis
cosity lubricants, such as castor oil
or mixtures of castor oil and mineral
oil, are the favorite for racing mo-,
tors.
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John L. Clark. Congress hotel. Ford,
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Lrle W. ErtL
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G C. Morris. Broj
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Way hotel. Ford.
Ertx. 651 Plttock block.
side streets, Chevrolet.
John Raz, Hillsdale, Or., Ford.
R. H. "Bradley, 427 East Davis street.
Ford.
O. Holmes. Clatskanle, Or., Ford.
H. A. Tucker. Nob Hill apartments.
MaxwelL
Morris & Co., 232 North Fifteenth
street. FOrd.
J. R. SkeltOn, Montgomery apart
ments, Elgin.
Frank J. Blechlngen, Ryan Fruit
company, Oakland.
Ella Taylor, 181 Sixth street. Ford.
R. E. Wills. 620 Plttock block. Chev
rolet. Oeorse T. Yates. Hillsdale, Or., route
2, Ford.
James B. O'Shea. Boston Packing
company, Dodge.
Edward Douglass, Estacada, route 1,
Dodge.
Harry E. Taylor, 75 Front street,
Saxon.
Cunnins: & Ekstrom, Gresham, route
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J. H. Kramer. 133 Grand avenue,
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L. C. Larsen, 629 Tacoma avenue
Oakland. G. F. Puzey, CJatskanie. Or.. Ford.
S. Kimura. Oregon City, route 6,
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J.-A. Martlen. 1185 East Twenty
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George Fournia, Boring, Or., Chev
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Dodge.
J. P. Coxon, 2631 East Forty-third,
Oldsmobile.
Roy L. Appleton, Hood hotel. Sixth
at Everett. Indiana Truck.
W. O. St. George, 394 Harrison. Ford.
A. Spellman & Son. 1810 Sandy,
Ford.
Ludwig Fries. 1151 East Holgate,
Ford Truck.
' H. J. Nickelson, Portland, Route 1,
Ford.
Mrs. N. V. Berdlrrg, 1124 Hassalo,
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W. P. Fuller & Co. ' 124 Grand av-
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A.,sscnuiing vo., f it irving, iJOdge.
G. Gunderson, S5J Albina avenue,
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E. Franklin, 250 South Broadway,
Ford.
R. C. Lien, 950 East Thirty-sixth
north. Ford.
Hans Rue. 1085 East Twenty-first
north. Dodge.
Adam Schesler. 398 Brazee, Ford.
F. Gunster, Heppner, Or.. Oakland.
Chas. Lehman, Hillsdale, Republic
truck.
Com. V. Faust. 136 Powell, Dodge.
Frits Glselman, 529 Washington.
Saxon.
E. M. Heacock. 224 Taylor, Ford.
Fred A. Pur din, 180 Union avenue,
MaxwelL
Ugelslch Bros.. 754 Thurman, Ford.
A. J. Ersted, Standard Machine Co.,
National.
Dr. Sam C. Slocum. 416 Mohawk
bldg., Bulck.
W. P. Fuller & Co.. Front-and Morri
son, Ford.
Lauderback Bros., Gresham, Or.,
Ford.
Henry Scheufler. 310 Stark, Bulck.
A. B. Starbuck, Dallas. Or., Chalmers.
j. j. smock, Linnton, Chevrolet.
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