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r THE OREGON SUNDAY JOURNAL, PORTLAND,' , SUNDAY MORNING, DECEMBER '6,- 1908. 3 PUGILISTIC MENU IS BURNS-KETCHEL GO JJes of West Are Cast K): By Will J. Slatteryv Ban Francisco, Doc. S. -Tha eyes of the western porting; world are- at pres ent focused upon 8ani Langford,: the formidable Boston black, who is now engaged in preparing himself for his San Francisco try out against Fireman Jim Flynn before Sam Berber's t club " December 17. That Langford has taken them all by- storm i putting; K-In the mildest form. His coming has caused more stit in local pugilistic circles than anything since the fall f Joe Oans before the redoubtable Battling Nelson ix months ago.--- ''. .:-.. Everi since Stanley Ketchel came to the front as a" great middleweight boxer, all the followers of the game-have been looking forward to a go between him and Langford, But just at the critical moment Ketchel's manager, 'Joe O'Con nor, saw nt to draw the color line ana therefore, the chances of a meeting be tween the pair were dimmed and it was not believed that the big Boston smoke would deem It worth while to come all the way across the continent to engage any other man In combat. Therefore, when Berger landed htm for Flynn, the trick immediately created a furore here ana now Dig earn is tue reigning sensa tion. - Langford sura looks every Inch the wonderful fighter he is Raid to be. With arms like those of a giant gorilla, a lithe, superbly muscled body, tapering legs and shoulders like the only Bob Fltzslmmons, Langford looms up in im posing form. He Is as black as the ace of spades and rather glum and sullen (if disposition. He knows nothing save right and has never tried to learn any- thing else. The bitter dregs of the knockout potion never have been tasted by him, though he has managed to go through as many as 20 gruelling rounds with the giant Jack Johnson within the jast three or Tour years. In Flynn, Langford will meet a tear ing, rushing heavyweight, who will keep milling while there is an ounce of strength left in his body. But with all "his staying powers, nobody concedes the Colorado fireman the ghost of a chance against Ebony 8am. They are all anxious to see the fight for the reason that It will be the bow of the much discussed black thunderbolt, and .may possibly pave the way for a match between him and either Ketchel or Tommy Burns in the near future. According to the present layout, the next great pugilistic bill of fare will be . a meeting in this city between Burns and Ketchel; that Is, of course. If the champion of the uince orchard does not change his mind again and go back on the latest, statement he has Issued. In a letter to the writer the other day. .Burn scoffed at all the stories to the effect that he .was. about to quit the prize ring and announced that no matter what might be the outcome of his fight with Johnson in Melbourne on the day after Christmas, 1 would come to San Francisco and take on Ketchel. He went on to explain that the Mich igan lion's scalp would be his dish and that he would be willing to make sac rifices to grab It off. .lust an soon' as Ketchel beard this, he announced that he would do no more fighting till lie had clinched a match with the heavyweight champion. Ketch el is as sure that he can trim Burns as Burns is of his ability to hang one on Ketch, and if confidence goes for anything in the roped arena, this pair is burdened with enough of it to carry a Ions route. There is no question but that Burns . would prove a wonderful card In San Francisco. Though he is not rated with John L. Sullivan, Jim Corbett, Jim Jef fries, Boh Kitsslmmons or any of the great heavyweights of the old days. Burns has proved a sensational per former since he bowled poor old Bill fqulres over a year and a half ago. Ills sensational invasion and cleanup of the stars of Rngland, Ireland and Aus tralia has made his name a byword all over the civilized world, and his return to the land where he got his start surely gives promise of being a sporting event. Ketchel is a card again a bigger one. In faot, that he ever waa His decisive victory 'over Bill Papke on. Thanksgiv ing day gave him back his title and with it more prestige than he ever had. Outside of Burns and Langford. there; is practically nooody lor the Michigan lion take on. It stands to reason that he must fight now that he Is young and ambitious and full of the fire of battle. He will not last long as a ring star and he realizes as well ss'does anybody that this is tho time for him to make hay. Ketchel will not leave San Francisco till after he has seen Langford per form. He Is figuring on a match with the big Boston smoke if. perchance, his looked for engagement with Burns falls through. Therefore, one big ring at traction is in store for the multitude early in the spring and Ketchel figures s one of the principals beyond the question of a doubt. There Is no chance to get Bat Nelson Into the ring before next March arthe earliest. The lightweight champion -is lust beginning to realise some profits from his holdings in Hegewlsch and the sounds of the Jingling dollars are far sweeter to his ears than the whizzing of boxing gloves or tue shouts of his ring side supporters. It was hoped that Nelson and McFar Isnd would get together in Coffroth'e Mission street ring about New Year's day. but this hope has flown with the latest announcement from the Hps of the champion. However, the wise ones are sure that tbe great lightweight bat Stanley 't .'sBslsalssss oia Ebony Sam Lang ford tle will be staeed ere the year Is. out. There la too much .money in it for either to overlook, provided the game does . not die before then and it is no cinch that it won't. .. ' Cof froth made an attempt to match Joe Oans. and McFarland for his New Tear's day card, but like Nelson, ' the old master is getting a little easy money out or tils' Baltimore resort ana he re fused to reenter the 'ring 'again, espe cially In a city as far away as San Francittco. . r -t . -r.r. ; The -only ones left are Freddie Welsh, the sensational little English light weight, and McFarland. This matcn has an awful good look to it for Cof- froth, and he will make it if such a thing is possible. Both men have de cleared their intention to meet and now the only question that stands between them and the promoter is that of terms. Like all modern pugs, they want the whole house and until they are willing to sign up tor a reasonable percentage, they will be passed up by the shrewd promoter, . .. Welch's sensational victory over Abe Alien in ios Angeies inanicsgiving ev ening, has stamDed him as a wonder ful ooxer. Never before in his long ring career has the American feather weight champion been made a monkey of by any fighter. He stood off many a lightweight in bis time and boxed Battling Nelson to a standstill in IS rounds, so his defeat at' the hands of weicn is an awiut diow to nis priae. Welch is a vegetarian and claims that he does not know the taste of meat. He makes a study of -various vegetables, cereals and nuts and uses a new line of stuff every time he trains for a fight According to the little Britisher, this sort of diet adds muscle and brawn to his body without putting on arfy ex cess weight. Therefore, he has never had any trouble In reducing, though he is a tall, big framed lad. In tbe past, he has demonstrated that he can make weight la any climate. , Joe Corbett Is as good as selected to captain and manage the San Francisco baseball team next year and his selec tion meets with the approval of every fan in this city. Just as soon as Pres idents Johnson and PuHiam of the Am erican and National leagues arrive, the deal will be fixed up and Joe will en ter upon his new duties. Though he has been out of profes sional ball for the past four years. Cor bett has been quietly working out among the bushers and at the present time, he seems to be there with the seme old bewildering line of curves and speed that made him famous as a pitcher on the Baltimore Orioles, the greatest of all ball teams some 14 years ago. If Corbett can go the route and take his regular turn In the box, he will prove a tower of strength to -the team for he Is a natural born leader and a man who has always commanded the respect of ivers and fans alike. When Corbett takes command of the Seal squad. It is better than an even monev bet that there will be many and varied changes In tho lineup. Last year's team was a bitter disappointment to everybody. It started with the bright est of prospects, but constant wrangling and crabbing all along the line: wrecked the aggregation ere If had well entered the race. Tho stockholders of the club put In a holler when the gate receipts began to fall off toward the middle of tho season and as far back as then, a change of management was decided upon. There will bo plenty of work for Pulllam and Johnson to undertake upon their arrival here in about two weeks. It will be up to them to decide whether or -not the war between the Coast leaguo and the California State league shall continue or whether the dove of peace will perch In the camp. The state league officials demand that all their star men, players like Hen derson Shay. Moskiman,, Chase, Hack ett, Strlcklett and others, remain with the league and that the national com mission waive all claim to them. This is quite an exorbitant demand and will prove a bitter pill for the big leaguers to swallow, so It will take all the strategy and cunning of the two pres idents to bring about a peaceful set tlement.'" The outlaws have refused to treat with President Ewtng of the Coast league people and thus the difflT cult task has fallen to the two biggest men m naseDan. RosulU at Emeryville. ((leant News by Imgest Lrased Wlrf.l Emeryville Race Track, Cal., Dec. 5. Results: First race, six furlongsCeleres won; Paladlnt second; Roy Bennett thiWI. Time, 1:16 2-6. Second race, six furlongs J. C. Core won; Mav Amelia second; Nebuosus third. Time. 1:1 2-5. Third race, one mile and seventy yards Montgomery won: Creation sec ond; Eye Bright third. Time. 1:4 -5. Fourth race, one mile Frank Flltt ner won; Bellweather second; Tony Faust third. Time, 1:41 3-6. Fifth race, one mile and a sixteenth Nadsu won; Okenlte second; Raleigh third. Time. 1:48 3-6. Sixth race. Futurity course Rosebun won; Berry Maid second; Collector Jes sup third. Time. 1:10 3-6. Major Hearn to tho Philippines. (Hatted Prew Leutd Wire.) Washington, Dec. 6. Major C. C. Hearn of the coast artillery corps has been relieved from duty at the armv war college according to orders Issued today and has been designated to com mand the companies of the coast ar tillery corps that will be sent to the Philippines. ONE FIGHTER WHO "CAME BACK" Ketchell, Who Regained Ilia Middleweight Championship " Title Ffoxa BUly ANGELL SELECTS All IIORTHWBT Oregon Agricultural College Physical Director Sees Ideal Football Eleven. ; All sTortawwrt rootbaU Team. Center, Cherry, Washington State college, 230 pounds. Right guard, Babcock, Wash ington, 220 pounds. Right tackle, Jamison, O. A. C. 120 pounds. ' Right end, Savidge, Idaho, 165 pounda Left guard, Moullen, Oregon, 180 pounds. Left tackle, Pendergrass, O. A. C 167 pounds. Left end. Main, Oregon, 17S pounds. Quarterback, Coyle, Washing ton, 166 pounds. Fullback, Clarke, Oregon, 185 pounds. Right halfback, Wolff, a. A, C, 190 pounda. ' , Left halfback, Borleske, Whit man, 1(0 pounda By E.I D. Angel, Physical Director of Oregon Agricultural College." The problem of selecting a team of players, most representative of the best ability in the northwest Is a speculation on the cart of many critics, and the very fact that never do two men agree on their selections makes even the best choice Inconclusive. The men chosen by the writer for his all-northwest team are based upon the individual style of playing in a number of games. Most of the championship games have been witnessed by tho writer, and, in his judgment, a team made up of the men named would rep resent the best playing ability of any northwest aggregation of gridiron war riors. Some men chosen in this arti cle are undoubtedly the best that tho northwest has produced during the en tire season. This is evidenced by the fact that a number of them have been chosen by every other critic. For in stance. Wolff, the great halfback, who has played such remarkable football for three years for the Oregon Agricul tural college, was named unanimously by every football critic in the north west as a member of his chosen ream. While Wolff stands alone as a unani mous choice, the other players, Coyle of Washington, Borleske of Whitman and Babcock of Washington, were so gen erally selected that there Is little doubt but that they are t their positions the best that could be chosen. Cherry at Center. In selecting a team the first position to be filled by a critics Is that of cen ter, and for this position there Is little doubt but that Cherry with his 230 pound bunch of muscles and energy is the best that the northwest has pro duced this yeaT. Cherry has had a long and varied experience, playing stellar root. Dan two years ago on trie u. a. t;. team. Later as a member, of the Wash ington State college team he kept up nil reputation as one of the best and most aggressive centers playing the game. Cherry would doubtless have little trouble in making the varsity team In any of the large colleges in the country, as his weight, strength and speed make him a valuable man. Taking the right side of the line the one man who stands out most conspic uously in weight, experience and strength, . Is Babcock of -Washington, whom the writer selects for the right guard position on his all-northwest team. Babcock In additimi to being a splendid choice, impresses everybody with his strength and weight. He is able to stand and take the weight of. the opposing team In addition to his speed and afitlity to run with tho ball. This is a very difficult play for a guard to make, as In running from a guard position a man of great weight is natur ally thrown off his balance and It re quites much agility to regain a balance and momentum to make consistent gains over the opposite line. Babcock has this skill and in his game against Oregon at Eugene it was largely due to these Filays from Oregon's left side of the Ine. that won the game for Washing ton. What About Moullen? For the other guards there Is little question but that Halm of Washington state more nearly compares In ability with Babcock than any other northwest player. But critics in selecting a team are confronted with a peculiar problem or question that arises. What shall we do with Moullen of Oregon? Moullen has playing qualities that would make him great either as a guard or a tackle, and has the further distinction of be ing one of tho greatest place kickers the entire country has ever produced. The writer does not wish to Indicate that Moullen would necessarily weaken the all-northwest team by playing guard, but simply states that if it were not for his kicking ability he would not be In line for this splendid honor. A man who has saved his team from de feat on so many occasions must be given recognition. Moullen's record of four place kicks in the Idaho game, making the 16 points tnat won the game for Oregon, and his two place kicks In the O. A. C. game, -netting eight points that L Copyright 1908 by j2TXT NSgS. Hart Schaffner Ic Marx won the game for his team, entitle him to the fullest credit. Therefore, taking into consideration the fact that Moullen plays a fairly good game, he is placed on the other side of the line and given the position as all-northwest left guard. Several Classy Tackles. In tackles the northwest has been fortunate in witnessing tho. development of . several men of great ability. In brainy playing, ami in spite or tue Tact that he is Hunter than any other tackle who has been considered. Pendergrass of O. A. C, stands foremost and su preme, He weighs but 17 poundw, but has a spirit and energy that are worth more than additional weight. He has that real ability which coaches and trainers are always looking for, in that he is able to use every ounce of his strength and concentrate every bit of his power at tne critical moment. Aaoea to this ability Pendergrass had the knack of deceiving all opponents as in what his next olav would be. He never did the same thing twice, and in this regard resembles In his style of playing that stellar middle west per former. "Art" Curtis, whoso weight was Just the same as that of Pendergrass, and who, while playing on the Uni versity' of Wilconsin eleven, was unani mously chosen for the all-middle west football team for four successive years. Pendergrass last year was selected as all northwest guard In .Spauldlng's guide. Because of his all around abil ity and real Judgment the writer se lects him not only as northwest tackle but also as captain of the team. While Pendergrass was considered the strongest man on the O. A. ('. line, his mate JamlBon, because of his ereat wclelit and strength and real speed for a man of his nl.e, cannot be overlooked ror tne ouier lacKio position. Jamison is the largest college man plaving a tackle position in the north west and in addition to his huge bulk he has a speed which a much lighter man might envy. His powerful strength as an offensive player was always in evidence and many of the O. A. O. games were won through the big gains Jamison made in the punts. Jamison was also clever at carrying the ball and when O. A. C. wanted a few yards he was invariably called upon. Good Ends Scare.." Selection of all northwest ends has been a problem most critics have found dlfficSfrt to solve. For right end the writer would select Kavldge of Idaho, who was named for this position by most of the critics last year and who has been the choice of many critics this year. He is a little hit better than any other end playing this season, though Grimm of Washington, Dobbins and Brodle of O. A. O. and Dodson of Oregon are worthy of honorable mention. Doubtless most critics would dis agree as to the selection for the other end of the line. I would place Main of Oregon In this position, for several Papke. -y reasons. In the first place. It has been noted that there are very few high class ends playing northwest football this year. In the selection of an all northwest team It is the desire of everyone to choose an eleven that would be the most effective against any op ponent. With this Idea in mind Main Is picked because he lias shown spirit and ability, two points that go to make a high class end. Main's spirit and science as tackle in the Idaho game proved him to be the best man on" the Oregon line. Later as halfback In the Washington and the O. A. C. fames he showed that he was the de ensive marvel of the Oregon team. He Is fierce and fair. Taking into con sideration his great strength and power as well as his speed, the writer selects Main of Oregon as the northwest end. In the back field there is little doubt but that Coyle of Washington. Is the man for quarterback on the all north west. He possesses splendid Judgment In running his team and selecting plays that aro moRt . effective against his opponents. Added to tnis is his almost suDernatural ability In collect Ing and running back punts. Before his career -Is ended he will doubtless rank with such men as Dillon, Knker- shall apd Steffens in this position. Clarke Is Skillful. For fullback on the all northwest team Clarke of Oregon Is among the first. Clarke is good on both offensive and defensive playing, using all of his treat strenarth and - weight with rea judgment and skill. He has had long exnerienee and plays at all times with power and head work and keeps his eyes open every moment for a good Dlav to deceive men of less anility Borleske of Whitman and Wolff of O. A. C. aro chosen for right half and left half, respectively. Borleske la one of the best players it has been the writer's privilege to see in any northwest game. He is hullt. on the style of Heston, the famous Michigan back, though some what smaller, and plays the same kind of a game. He is one of those rare persons who do not know defeat. He Is doubtless the best halfback In the northwest and puts up a better game than anv other man playing In the same position. Wolff of O. A. C. is selected for the other halfback position and Is the one man who nas Deen cnosen unani mously to be on the northwest team In the writer's experience there have heen few Olavers who so impressed him as Wolff, whose 190 pounds of muscle make him a terror to opponents. If Wolff were nearer the Atlantic coast his work would doubtless give him the credit of being chosen for the all eastern team. This team. Cherry .as center. Babcock as right guard, Jamison as right tackle. Savidge as right end, Moullen as left guard, Pendergrass as left tsckle. Main as left end. Coyle as quarterback. Clarke as fullback, Wolff as right nnirDBCK ana nonesae as ieri halfback has the Dower of speed. weight, strength and ability tnat wn go to represent the all northwest. STUDENTS DIVIDED ON GAME IN METROPOLIS fSoeelal niiMtrs to TD Journal. . nrsirnn A agricultural Collefire. Corval lis, Dec. 5. Since the O. A. C.-Ores;on rama in Portland November 21, opinion Is verv much divided relative to the advisability of Playing the annual game In the metropolis. Those who want the same in Portland contend that it is to the Interest of both institutions, in tnat It brings them prominently before the people of the state and helps athletics financially, also that it provides a neu tral field and better facilities for ac commodating a large crowd. The arsuments against playing the game In Portland are that it ceases to be a true college game and is played for pecuniary gain. It costs the stu dents, many of whom are hardly able to stand the expense, much more money and in some enses makes It Impossible for all the students to attend. In order for both Oregon and O. A. C. to perform In Portland it would per haps be possible for Oregon to nly their annual ram. with Idaho on Mult nomah field and for O. A. C. to make a lasting contract with Washington State college for a game in roruana. A game between the Argles of Oregon and Washington would prove a great draw ins1 card and would be a financial suc cess. It Is thought tbat a majority of the . students . ravor siren an arrange ment and hope that the athletic man agement win taKe some aucp. action in arranging the schedule, for next year. During the past three years O. A. C. has not succeeded In arranrlng a sat isfactory schedule and It is to be honed that a better one will be secured ror next season. President Ebbt of the Brooklyn flab Is out wltb a denial that his basebell property is on the market and says he would not put a price upon It upder any circumstances. Me expects-to se- cure the services of Bill Dahlen as man ager off the Brooklyns next season. ' - - . . - - "Hard Head", Bmlth of fh -" Chicago Americans sajis be will pitch for the Senators next isea'son If they use real monev in payment for services In Wash ington. . .. ' -. - ' NOW here's as smart and stylish a garment as you'll ever set your eyes on or put your frame into. HART SCHAFFNER & MARX call it "The Military Raincoat" It looks military and does the raincoat part to perfection. A light weight, long overcoat with collar that buttons up under the chin, with generous side plaits in skirts to give your legs freedom in walking. It's one of the latest and best. 20 to $30 Just received new line of "Military" Coats Your inspection is invited. Sam'l Rosenblatt & Co. The Lightest Store in Portland CORNER THIRD AND MORRISON GOSSIP GLEANED COLLEGES Halm Springs New Football Ruling Athletics Lose a Great Runner in Taylor. By Sportsman. "It Is to laugh.'" Portland has the unique distinction of being the only city In the country whose foothnll devotes ' have had the privilege of witnessing a 1 gridiron decision that rules the . man who was carrying the ball out of a game. This decision was rendered by KETCHEL'S CLOUD Sam -Langford, wonderful negro middleweight," who may be matched soon .with white" champion. Jle is matched to meet Jim Flynn. Kield Judge Holen in the Multnomah Oregon game Thanksgiving day. Bert Pilklngton, whose sportsmanship has never been questioned, was returning an Oregon punt and Captain Moulten claimed that Pllkington's knee struck Finkhatn when the Oregon tackle at- tempted to stop the play. Even It this were true it would not Justify. an" offi cial In penalizing the offender, as It i up to the player making the tackle to, protect himself and not expfpted of u man carylng the ball to punt so dell- v cately that an easy tackle is afforded an opponent. Pilklngton is a splendid baekfield man, and runs, as th beet coaches 'would teach, body low ami knees high. It Is difficult to tackle a man running In this manner, and as ' Plnkham rain Into his man standing up he has no one to blame but himself 1 he was Jolted. The point in brief is this: A man running with 1 the ball la allowed great freedom, and it is not , possible under the rules for him to foul an opponent unless he deliberately stops . and striken or kicks. As neither of thesn things happened It was poor Judgment . on the part of the official to inflict a penalty, and hardly the best sportsman ship on the part of Captain Moullen to insist upon its enforcement Pilklngton stands high in northwest athletics as a : fair, gentlemanly sportsman. During his career as a member- of the Oregon Agricultural college football ream hn secured this reputation, and he has maintained this record on the Multno mah chub team. Plaints Moisten Wires. The wires are moist ,svlth the sobbing plaints that emanate from the football authorities at the University 0f Wash ington because of the alleged violation of the conference rules on the part of Washington State college in playing Peaner, an Ineligible, in the game ir which they were tied to 6. As a mat ter of fact. Deaner pinyed in but ono' conference game, and that was against Washington. . ; The faculty council at Washington State knew that Deaner was not eligible, but played him In this one game pur posely. They had protested Eaklna and Mucklestone, as did Oregon and O. A. V Kvery member of the conference except Waahimtton deemed these mm Inaudi ble and their playing a flagrant viola tion or tne ronrerence rules. . Wash ington's desire to win. however.: w. stronger than their ethics, and theso two men were used even after a mall vote had Prohibited their . nlnvino- Washington State college, was perfectlv justified in using any Ineligible that they chose in a game of this natur. They showed that their purpose to live up to the conference rules was lm-.n, by not using Deaner In any other con ference game. Washington's attitude, Is very much like the "pot calling thn b.ttl. Kl.b" I- 11.1. I,' . nvi ,i, .1119. veiae um kettle happens to be white. , World Losea Orsat Athlete. The world lost a rreat athlete, wh&n - John B. Taylor, the University of Penn sylvania colored boy, died of typhohl pneumonia at his home in Philadelphia last Wednesday. Tavior stood si as the best quarter miler developed sine ihb uay 01 - aiaxy- .iKMig. Kunnlng -the quarter in 48 i-B at the intercoi- ! legiatea held at Cambridge In 1907. h established a record thai classes hint -as one of the world's greatest sprint ers. Taylor was chosen to represent America at the Olympic games held In London last summer and his failure lf ' jerrorm up to expectations was the first ndication of his failine health. Taw-. . lor was one of the small group of col- ' ored athletes who won the respect and friendship of their white brothers be cause of their thorough sportsmanship as well-as by their great ability.. Bullock of Dartmouth- vreat ax n Innt. .. ball player: Matthews of Harvard, oiM of the best college baseball players lit -the country; Poage of Wisconsin, inter collegiate champion in the low hiirdi.a and quarter mile, and Marshall of Mi it-.. nesota. all-western end. are others who . rang with Taylor. Their "whiteness" was never Questioned by their . team- mates. . tot College wrestling. Intercollegiate wrestllnar nromlses to be one of the features of college eon- . lesis. wregon nas organised a wreet linc class and next Saturday O. A. C. win begin Its initiation Into the mys teries of the tnat ffame. under the en- pert guidance of Edward 6'Connell. Tho' Beavers are fortunate In securing no able an instructor. While most hoys are Interested In wrestling and will clinch and tussle, not one In 100 knows anything about tli-t science of. the game. wrestling ts one of the beat exercises for body but idl ing known to physical directors and a.t l erl to that It la magnificent In the cour age, confidence and muscular alertn4 it gives a hoy. Mike Murphy once smi.l that if he wanted to give a boy an tl-.t physical equipment tfr life he wun. 1 teach him to swim, rwn, jump, box , 1 wrestle. ..' - .-.......... If all nova indulged In thexe ftva . excises and kept them up the pti-H. -1 of maintaining health and fit;i-n:. -sturdy Americans would bi lrnj,nn.- There" are signs tbat the ruiioi .? game Is going to be the m-ati nt aratlng Innocents from tttt ir . i ',, It was several years ago. iUv B If some rummy comes iiong ! j's.w.i; 1 be DoranJo, ifhrubb or I..i,,.; ...ji. And Bill PsoWe Kt:n thought t!m coin t v 11. If It i-l b- n J l;ave s . : .-: .1.