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GETTING READY FOB BEAVERS . Washington Team Perfect? , irig: Plays Designed to ; Overwhelm (VAJ C. , - (Special Dispatch te'Th Jonrsal. . University Of Washington, Nov. 2L Preparing tor their championship battle with the Oregon Agricultural, college on ; Thanksgiving day, the University of "Washington football team has been hard at work since arriving home after their decisive defeat of Oregon, j. The scrim mage has not been as vigorous as here- - tofora, Coach Doble fearing that some of ,his men may be crippled If they are put through too hard paces. - The prac tice lias been in the nature of perfect ing a variety of plays, and developing endurance rather than In making the mrti tough by gruelling scrimmages. Doble has a repertoire of plays that were not touched, the players say, in - the Eugene game, for the reason that the sawdust on the field slowed the eleven up so that It was useless to try open formations and fast, elusive plays. Coyle and Muckelstone tried to pull oft some puzzlers couple of times, but (flipped and gained nothing. ' . ? The Washington team ought ' to be istrongef than O. A. C. In open play, as it is thought the men are faster than the Oregonlana. In fact. If the Wash Jngtonlans are not faster, they stand in a good way to lose, as O. A. C. will out weigh (Washington about eight tounds to the man and ought to have the edge on them in old-style football. It is felt ithat Washington will not be able to Accomplish, the results by line bucks - that it uia against Oregon last week. . Eaken's leg was hurt In the practice last night and he will lay oil the rest of the week, although Doble - says he ias no doubt Eaken will be able to make use of , his good right leg In the O. A. C. game. The other players are in good condition and will go Into the game In line trim. If Washington loses there will be no excuse offered, say the coach nd players, v. This Is the first time tn ' Ave years that Washington has come up to the Thanksgiving game without a defeat. The Thanksgiving game will be a cham pionship battle in truth, as a victory by Washington will give the Evergreen state team a clear title to the cham pionship. Interest In the game is in tense In Seattle and the largest crowd "ever assembled to witness a football game Is expected. ROOTERSlEAK ALL LUNG RECORDS A t All long-distance records for playing , by any one band In the state of Oregon - were broken yesterday by the band from . the University; of Oregon In their trt . uwphal march at the head of the Root ers' club through the streets directly - after the gahle. This plucky little bunch played from the time they left the club ail the way down town and through the streets before they finally succumbed to exhaustion. v To the tune of the ever popular tune of "Boola Boola" this little band at the head of fully a thousand cheering stu- dents and friends of the university who ,.. had become students at heart ' in their ' eagerness to show their appreciation for the wonderful victory won by the state ' university, paraded the streets of the city singing and yelling for quite a while after the game. Louder and better timed rooting has sever been seen or rather heard at a game In Portland.th.an was given by the students ef the Two - schools in the grandstand yesterday and Portland can now say that she has been visited by the real college spirit. The 600 cadets 'In the O. A. C. section were armed with orange megaphones and the roar which .came out of these 600 throats as the ''Aggies" came running down Use hill from the clubhouse was enough to awaken the dead. Any old college man in that crowd who had not fully rotten 'the spirit of the occasion awoke with ai tart wnen thai mignty coo let loose with "Zip-Boom-B! Zip-Boom-BI . O-A O-A O-A-Cr ' ' Oregon's Rooters' club while not quite s loud, owing to the lack- of mega phones, was-timely and well trained. O'hey of course hsd more to cheer about and their sohgs and yells of eneourage tnent must (bave sounded great to the lemon yellow players. The bands of 4oth Institutions did good service at all times, but were usually drowned out by the cheering. - , Refnra the rams the cadets hmn w t forth a great deal of applause from j . those of the spectators who were able! o get there that early . in a drill tn ; Which several hundred men. marching 11 the time, formed the letters O-A-C. .There were some 100 cadets In this .nu ana me wor wm quica ana accu rate. ,y,.. - , . :; .... ,, :J .RESULTS SATURDAY At Madison Maroons 11, Wisconsin ; it. : - .. At Minneapolis Minnesota -11, Car Olsle 6. ;' -: At Champaign Illinois 64, North-western 8. .... -i At De Paw field De Paw 6, Nor mal 0. At New Haven Harvard 4, Tale 0. At Syracuse Syracuse 18. Michigan 4. At Ithacar Cornell 18, Trinity 4. At Annapolis Navy 15, Virginia Poly technic 4. ' . At west roini Army z, vuianova v. , At Pittsburg University of ., Pitts- j burg 6, Gettysburg 0. -K.i At Pittsburg Case 10, Carnegie Tech- f talC&l i At St. Louis Vanderbllt 18, Waah-f lngton.0. ...... --Iv..- At uoiumoue jniw oinia uoer ""At Cleveland Reserve 84, Heidel berg o. . . ; r At fruiaoeipnja -ennyiTani.. reon r 18, Cornell 0. . , f At Lewlsburg Buahnell 17, Urelnus 11. ' At'La Fayette Indiana 10, Purdue 4. At Iowa City Kansas 10, Iowa i. - At Philadelphia Heaverford 6, New , Tork University . At Easton Lehigh 11. La Fayette 6,. - At Orlnnell Cornell college 11, Grn- f sell -It. . Jw :fi : At New York-Fordham - t3,.tRens; At Philadelphia Philadelphia C High I 15, Brooklyn 0. , - . At Waahlngton Waahlngton and Jef- fereon 4, Waynesburg 0. - ! At Amherst Amherst 4, Williams 0.--At Medford Tufts . , Massachusetts Agricultural college . ..... -"Cadillac on 1,000-Milo Run. The Howard M. Covey Motor Car ' company yesterday started a Cadillac 'car of thel09 model on a J. 000-mile Bonstop run. The test wilP take four days and four drivers will drive four-' hour reliefs "antll the test is finished, t The engines will not stop once during the test. - : . . . AVInloch Wing Opener, s . (Riwdal rbiTttb to The Jouml. -Wlnlock. Washl, Nov. 11. The JWln- Jock Amateur Athletic club opened the basketball Season tonight, by defeating Little Falls, 85 to 6. , THE FIGHTERS HIT AGREE' HULL ssssBBBSwsssssjssssssBssBssBBBssssa . Difference of ' Sort .That Makes Fights as Well ' ' as Horse Baces J - By W. W. Naughton. . . . (Hearst Sews by Longest teased Wire.) "" Ban Francisco, Nov. II. Before an other week rolls by the Papke-Ketchel bout will be listed with the battles that are fought and we shall know which of the two crack middle-weights Is better entitled to style himself champion of the world... . . .,' '..i"j. i:; Interest in the affair Is widespread, and well It might be, for the principals in. the Thanksgiving day encounter are far and away the best of Wielr class. They are among the. 158-pouhders what Jeitrles and Sharkey-were among heavy weights when -the sailor and the, boiler- maker were in their heyday. . ... ..'.. - vvnen fapti vu cutting a swath in the east and middle west,; and Ketchel was devastating the fighting centers of the Paciflo coast, we all felt that there would be a day of reckoning between Stanley and Billy. , They - have met twice, and each has a victory to nie credit. They are. about. to start on the third and deciding game of the pugilistic rubber, and, anyone who -has watched them train or heard them ' talk ' must feel that all ' that el ther has of slu g ring strength and determination will be brought into play In the coming contest. ...i-.v, ,-. Billy's View of tanXejV . . 'just' to show how. authorities: differ, Billy Papke -If he speaks from the heart thinks1 Ketchel' a comparatively easy man to uuce-care oi. He is .a great puncher, sure enougi sure enough the very wickedest I ever went against aarainst: but his :style is. not 'hard to solve. I might say 1 learned, how. to beat -him while we were fighting at Milwaukee. He got to me before we pulled back from the handshake, and it was a case of . get In . and even' up before the 10 rounds slipped away, but I was storing up knowledge all the time. I made use or if at 3-oa Angeles. Ketchel , is a swinger, and ithe main thing Is to that be - doea ' not have plenty of arm room. He will lick any man who tries to 'back away from his swings' and shifts. -1 - decided that by getting In side -of his sledae-hammer Dunches I could send him up In the air. and that's just wnai a uiu. i was so ciose to mm that he couldn't swing on me, and in the meantime I hammered blm to pieces." . j. - What Ketebel VnM X.lke. A week or so before Ketchel went to Los Angeles to box Papke, the Michi gan man was asked what kind of an o ex ponent he preferred., "I Uke big fellows." said Ketchel. "If I am to fight heavyweights, and keep on fighting them, I'd like nothing bet ter than to meet Kaufman for a starter, I can do greater things with my left hook when I have a tail -fellow In front of me. I might say that I am almost sure of bringing a tall man down, while I don't get on so well with short fel lows. I can't bit downward, somehow, and, besides, I nearly always hurt my hands when I tackle a fighter who Is shorter than myself." - Anyone who has seen Ketchel In ac tion can understand what he means. He hits from the hip, and as long as his gloves are traveling outward and up ward his blows carry more force and are surer of i finding the target. He Is surely handicapped when striking at a man whose head Is lower than the usual COMPOSITE ALL-STAR FOOTBALL i . ' I' V.S" -1k ' It ' 5 vi' f;.i.s..;i'- 1 OREGON SUNDAY JOURNAL, PORTLAND, SUNDAY line of fire. 'A compactly built runt, la fact. Is the most dangerous man an up swinging fighter like Ketchel can sta up against, j, - , Thompson-Kelson rossfbUities. , ' Larney Llchtensteln, manager ' of Cyclone Johnnie Thompson, after a short silence, has taken a hand again in furtherance of his lightweight ambi tions. Larney adduces about 200 rea sons why the Cyclone should be given the first chance at Battling Nelson, among them being - 188 fights which Thompson has worried through with out suffering a knockout - In conclu sion, Larney says Thompson will allow Nelson to name every condition with the exception of the referee. That 'Is one condition lri which 'the Cyclone wants to have a voice. . It has been all said before. ' The pub lic knows that' In the matter of pluck, ruggedness and perpetual motion the Cyclone and the Battler are two of a kind. A match between them would be Interesting, in so far as It would indi cate which of the two cast-iron ring men possessed the greater endurance. Nelson in his latest utterances de clares In favor of long-distance fights, but has let nothing escape him to sug- rrest that he would care for a few hours n the Cyclone's company. Until the battler is heard from on the point, it looks as If all Larney' a efforts to fo ment Nelson-Thompson strife would be vain.'"-" v" ' "r - Possibly Packy McFarland will oblige Nelson. Nelson has told Packy to "get in. and lick a, few good men! and it certainly would be a feather In Packy's cap If ha could stop Thompson's gallop and Larney' s writing. , . IS OUT TO GET MEADOWS TRACK Seattle, Wash., Nov. 11. Ole Han'pn, representative from the - Porty-iy rd legislative district,. Is out with the An nouncement that he intends to put the Meadows race track out of business, at the coming session or the legislature. Hanson comes from a strong sporting district, but declares he Intends to make the anti-racetrack bill .. his . principal work In the legislature. In the election of George Vanderver as prosecuting attorney Hanson saw his way clear to tno. emorcement oi any law he could get passed, and Immedi ately started out to have a bill drawn. The bill is, in the hands of an attorney at present, and will be drawn to cover every avenue of escape heretofore util ised by race-track men. ' Influences have been brought to bear on Hanson to keep out of the fight until after the exposition, .but he pro fesses to be unable to see any justifi cation for race-track gambling during the fair season that will not apply at any other time. , Houston Result. TTn...tn I,.... Wis. 1 nnllMrf. are results of today's races: First race, rive runongs Marcnmont won: Wander, second: Rublola. third. Time, 1:02 1-5. Second race, seven runongs stenio us. won; Woodline, second; Isabello Atntree, third. Time, 1:31. r Third race, six and a half furlonaa Momentum, won; Lena Leach, second; No Quarter, . third. Time, 1:21 1-6. Fourth race, six furlongs Hattle Garrett, won; Hand-Me-Down, second; Guile, third. . Time, 1:15 8-6. Fifth race; five furlongs Doll Maker, won; Jim Eanea, second; ' Rose of the Ranoho, third. Time, 1:06. uixtn race, seven runongs nisei, won; Dick Red, second; San Ramon, third. Time, .1.18 4-5. Seventh race, six furlongs Straight Line, won: Charlie Lusk. second; My Love, third. Time 1:17 1-5. 'Or, 4 r' v ' r s t .... ' ) it t '!!. '. t, A' 1 : ... : smrm Him UlilGTOI! 1 UH ELEVEN iy. ',.,. -, . r ; . : Faculty Ignores Eeasbnable Protests of Three Co'nfer 1 ence Football Tearm ; . - ' ' 'V By Sportsman. ; 4. " , In spite of the fact that three of the conference colleges have protested the playing of Muckelstone and. Eaklns, the two star Importations of the -University of Washington football team, they still persist In using these men In games. It seems unfortunate that Washington should "be the only Institution tn the conference, agreement that Is disposed to violate . one of the most Important rulings of the conference. -- - Washington - State college first pro tested these men. charging that they were formerly members of the North Dakota Agricultural colleare team at Fargo and had not complied with the northwest regulations by being a, year' in attendance at tne Seattle institution before competing In conference games. Their protest was Ineffective, however, and . to meet Washington at its ' own game they used Deaner, a former 111! nois player,-in their game with Wash' Inaton. . Deaner was not eligible to com. pete for Pullman this year, but as their rival was disposed to use an inengioie olnr the man they., felt Justified in doing the same. . As ' a result they ' succeeded In holding the. strong Puget sound team to 6 to score, xms game, oy tne v will , be ranked in northwest ' fo I history as one of the unique cor, i of this .section.) as both teams r. . their slXi points in ' exactly the same war, four each , being scored by place kicks and two points for each team were made by safeties. . - Pullman Team Complies. . Pullman seems disposed - to ' comply with the conference rules in their strict est Interpretation and this la evidenced by tne ract that Deaner nas neen used In but this one conference game. The much di sou used Rule 3 of the conference regulations that governs this particular case states that. No student who has (been registered In any other college ot university shall be permitted to compete on- a conference team until be nas been one year In residence. Washington justified the playing of Eaklns and Muckelstone on the ground tnat tney were not regisierea at worin Dakota except as preparatory students. Early in the season Washington sent out an official ballot to be voted on by ths different numbers of the con' ference. aeklnc If It were the Inte: erpre- tatlon of Rule 2 that a student who o had played on a college team, but was slm ply registered as a preparatory student should be eligible to compete In the northwest conference games without having completed his year's residence. Washington was the only Institution in the northwest conference which vot ed "yes" on this question, and, accord ing to the rules of the conference, an unanimous vote must be given before any of the rules may be amended. As an unanimous vote was not received, Washington directly and flagrantly Is violating one ' of the articles of this agreement. ' Oregon said-Ringers. ' The University ot Oregon protested these men on the ground that they were "ringers" and htd followed Coach Doble from North Dakota to Seattle. The pro test of Oregon was .not considered and It was largely. If not entirely, the splen did work of Muckelstone and Eaklns that defeated the university of Oregon at Eugene last Saturday.! ELEVEN CHOSEN BY COACHES OF CITY SCHOOLS ' v J " ' fj , J . juA.. : 'h.. v . n I f i 1 7 "Iff i i r Us v.j:m MORNING, NOVEMBER "22, Si E(G Sam! Rosenblatt k Co. N.-W. Cor. Third and Morrison Streets Without Eaklns punting, which aver aged some 10 or ll yards more on each exchange than the punts of the famous Clarke, Oregon very probably would have held Washington at least to an even score. This northwest agreement was made in good faith. Each institu tion agreed and voted to uphold the rules during the present football sea son, and It is a disagreeable comment ary on the ethics of the University of Washington that their desire for vic tory should supersede their desire for clean, leglmate collegiate athletics.. -1 HHBBSBBBSSBSBSBSHBBBBSBBBBSBBBHB ...lU.lu.tli. 1 W t : J I 4 " ' s " ? tt-b W - V - : J :-: . .-.v-..t.. j f..,r "R - tiiiiiiii.ii, mi .iiumii.niii in ii.iimii mn.Miiini, mtimtd -' f , , -: 1908.' For Thariksgivitfg Veek ANY BOY'S $5.00 OR $6.09 OVERCOAT IN ANY BOY'S $5.00 WITH PLAIN (See the 3rd Street Drlscoll Defeats- Bonhag. (Doited Press Leased wire.) Buffalo, N. T.. Nov. Jl. Michael D. Drlscoll of the Mercury Athletlo club, Yonkers. N. T.. won the special three mile run at the Indoor athletlo and bi cycle meet of the Seventy-fourth regi ment here tonight, defeating George V. Bonhag;- Irish-American Athletlo club. New fork, who ran Second, and '. Fred O. Bellars, New Tork Athletic club, third. Time. 14:89 1-5. 1i 11 11 I : 1 V v 1 x i , i it. 1 EIX LWERi tRTORtf IDR .YL. i! "V -r '- at 3 L-.-U.. .US 2 THE STORE TROUSERS Window) PLnHS LAID FOR SOCCER LEAGUE By A. P. Garvry. ; Vancouver, . B." C.. Nov. 21. 8attle, Spokane and Portland will be Inoluded In an elght-olub association football cir cuit in iu, accoramg 10 toe plans r Will Efllls, secretary of the Vancouver eluh of the Panlfin mut iMnw An j or Suit mi V- elght-club league la a big undertaking. ' -bat, the schedule will be so, arranged to give at least one of the teams, in. Into Oregon and California once a year till such time arrives when - It will be possible to have every club In the league go on a tour. . , ijajiiorouL s looiDaii association nas " been In communication with Mr. Ellis during the past few days that definite flans were outlined, which - will covr he proposed league, and the 6an Fran- . nl . n .fi.k. V. n . . Vx.h .1 I .1 .... . . effect. A reply Is expected shortly when arrangements will be .completed to launch the new league. Nothing will be attempted this year towards carrvlnc out the nlans. but Im- " mediately upon the conclusion of the Pacific Coast league schedule, the local officials will set to work to inter c" Victoria, Nanalmo, Xadysmtth, Tacoma, Seattle and other clubs In the south in ' the nlan to bring a representative team from California through the northwest in April or next year. Tne southerners ' have notified Mr. Ellis that they are heartily in accord with hla Idea to have the tour brought off In the spring and they will be prepared to carry out their' end of the program. v Coming north the Callfornlans will plav Portland. Spo kane, Tacoma, Seattle ' and the teams on this side of the border, the tour nn- cupylng a little over three weeka Each club will be asked to guarantee a nom inal sum towsrds tne exoenaes of the California aggregation. --.. . . ,x Expend arezt rail. In the fall ef 1909. however, the Pa-, clflo Coast league will expand, thus tak ing in every soccer club In British Co lumbia. Washington, Oregon and Cal-' tfornla, each league being . represented by an all-star combination. . During th.i . AJaaks-YUkon-Pectfto fair v at Seattle, . a tournament will be pulled off, when it Is expected that not less than seven club will participate. The officials of the Pactflo Coast league are cooper ating with- the members of the 8eattle . club In perfecting arrangements for the big event. It is not improbable that! plons of Canada, will come west for V this event. They hold the People's ... Shield, emblematla of the championship of Canada. - Should California, send a team north in the spring of next year, and they have nr&ctlcailv assured Mr. Ellis that they will de so, a combined team from the Paciflo Coast league, which -will them embrace six clubs In the north west, will be selected, and after tour ing the various cities In British Colum bia, and Washington, will go to Cali fornia, where a series of matches will b played with the leading teams. Portland will be visited en route to the south, while Spokane and Tacoma win Sviso De inciuuvu (ll mo iLinvrarj--the team. This tour will be taken In the fall of 10. It Is confidently ex pected that sufficient money will be de rived from these matches to enable . clubs to take trips to the south every year, the champions of the north went playing off with the California club for the coast title. - , aranarme leada leagtts. .., Ladysmlth's association football teavf ia practloally out of the running' for Paciflo ooas. league honors this year, while Nanalmo is again at 'the top of the league. Vancouver Is looked upon as the strongest club tn the series ant unless there Is some slipup from -distance It looks as if aaoouvr ftl.i carry off the championship. The standing of the cluba to date Is as follows; . - - -Won. Xxist. - Urn. fii. Nanalmo I 1 . 0 Vanoouver 1 1" o ' Seattle I ... - t - e s Vlotorle ...... 1 1 Ladysinith . ... 1 3 6 . The next games are remh.r S. V ' torla vs. Vaneouvr. arvi ltcetr.: Vancouver at Seattle. fcoocer is making mpi.l hm.1 ... athletlo circles in tie .t 1 are numerous teams rl' ' through the northwest. 1 lumbla alone ihira ar - clubs playing S' . -members of the ' Vancouver an i (rsme is c- . l.r"r r .".-