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In tlM MMt, OO
em alu Notice sattt.
the loth Inetaat, afar
uatmportaat wmm Mr. urittentMn spoke
two hours oarthe queelionof " pe."
WkM Mr. CrJttaadea had ooacladed his
Mr. Allen, agreeably to previousnotice
eaovod to lay on tne UWo the reaolui
eerted from the committee on Koraicn Keia-
tJone, aad lake up as a substitute the jomt
resolutions from the Houas of Repreeenta
lives, which wae aoquieaceci in wltheor'a
division, and tl e 8enate proceeded to consid
er the Houeo resolutions, aa follows:
Resetted by the. Senate and House of Rep.
rwsattfi'aei of the United State of America
t Vtmgvte atiembUd, That the President
of the United States cause notice to be given
to the Government of Great Britain that the
convention between the United Statee of
America and Great Britain, concerning the
territory on tho northwest coast of America,
west of the Stony mountains, of the 6th of
August, I8i7, signed at London, shall be sn.
nulled an I abrogated twelve months after
giving said notice.
2. And be it further reto'oed. That no
thing heroin contained is intended to inter
fore with the right and discretion of the pro.
per authorities of the two contracting parties
to isnow or pursue negotiations for an ami
cable settlemjnt of the controversy respect
ing tho Oregon territory.
Mr. Johnson, of Miryland, then mov
ed as a substitute fur the above resolutions
of the House an amendment in the following
"Strike out all after tho enacting clause,
and insert: That by the convention conclud
cd the twentieth day of October, eighteen
hundred and eighteen, between the Unite
St' t.s of America and the King of the United
Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, fir
tho pirio I often years, an I afterward in.lof
initely extended and continued in force by
another convntiosi of the Ha no pirtics, con
cluded tho sixth day of August, in the year
of our Lord one thouaud eight hundred and
twenty .seven, it was agreed that any coun
try that may bo claiino I by either party on
the northwest count of America westward 01
the S:ony or Rocky mount iin, now common
ly called the Oregon territory, should, to.
gethcr with its harbor, bays and creeks, and
the navigation of all rivers within the same,
be " free anJ open" to the vessel, citizen
and Kubjccts of tho two Pjwom, but witlioul
prejudice to any claim which either of tin
parties might havu to any part of tal 1 couu
try; an I with thin further provinhn, in tin
second article of tho said convention of tin
sixth of August, eighteen huu I red and twen
ty-'wsven, that either party in'ghl abroati
and annul slid convention, on giving due no
tice of twelve month to the other contract
" That it has now becorna desirable that
the respective claim i of the United St ties
and Great Britain should bo definitely settled,
and that sail tern.ory may no longor than
need bo remain subjoct to the evil consequen
ces of tho divi led allegiance of its Auioricati
and British population, and of the confusion
and conflict of n ttionnl jurisdictions, danger
ous to the chorish'-d pea-jo an I good unJer
atandinr of the two countries ind. there
fore, that stops bo taken for tho abrogation of
u3 nam convention oi wo sixtll-oi August,
eighteen hundred and twenty-aovon, in the
moJo proscribed in its second article, aui
that tho attention of tho Governments of
both countries may bo mora earnestly and
immodiatoly directed to renewed efforts for
tho amioiblo settlement of all their diifjren
ces and disputes in rospect to aa;d territory
" Ani ba it father rewind, That tha1 Pres
ident of the United States be, and he is here
'fy authorized, at his discration, to give to
thVBritish Government the notice required
by its said second artiole for the abroga'ion
of the said oonvontioo of the sixth of Au
gust, eighteen hundred and twenty-seven."
Mr. Allen jthen moved to amend the second
clause of Mr. Johnson's amendment by strik
ing out all after the word "has," ia the first
line, aad inserting :
" Become the duty of Congress to ooasid
er what measure it may be proper to adopt
ior she eeourity and nroteotiea -of our oiti
aeas aew inhibiting or who may hereafter
inhabit Oregoo, anl thomalntnioe,of our
JuAtlUetoibat territory." T" - "
After eerao oonversation aa to thepofats ef
oroer, tne annate prooeedert to vote ; aad,
upon tba question of agrttiag to the amend-
" WeawsaJ lbs Mar ef Esjeke tskss Ms amy."
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tlesasssflwe) Ohio a .am eM mm IiTaJs
yieee that tba
arte .up aeti safe
hat it bad adoewd mineral!, fceNe, tal
anac, eaattobtad, aad (aa , ematf have
meat of Mr. Allen, it wae decided, by yeas
and nays, as follows : -''
YBABMessn. Allen, Ashley, Atchison,
Atherton, Bagby, Bcatoa, Breese, Bright,
Cameron, Cms, Chalmers, Dickinson, Dix,
I'airfield, ilanaegan, Jeaacss, Niles, Scruple,
Sjvior, Surgecxi, Turney, Westcott Ml.
NAYS Messrs. Archer, Barrow, Berri
en, Calhoun, T. Clayton, Jno. M. Clayton,
Corwin, Crittendea, Davis, Dayton, Evans,
Green. II lywood, Houston, Huntington, Jar
nigin, Johnson, of Maryland, Johnson, of
Louisiana, Lowi, McDufuo, Mantua, Mil
ler, Mornhead, Pcarce, Pennybacker, Phelps,
Rusk, Simmons, Speight, Upbam, Webster,
S i the amendment was rercted.
Mr. B-ecao hero submitted an amendment,
to strike out the works "at his dicretion," in
;he last clause of the resolution.
The yeas and nays being ordorcd, it was
Jccidcd as follows :
YIAS Messrs. Allen, Aslily, Atchison,
Atherton, Bagby, Breese, Bright, Cora. ran,
Cass, DickinMm, Dix, Fairtiold, iiinnegan,
I Imston, Jenncss, Niles, Pennybacker, KmV,
icmple, Suvicr, Sturgeon, Turney il.
NAYS Messrs. Archer, Barrow, Bonton,
Ujrrion, Cilhoun, Cha'mcrH, Thomu Clay
ton, John M. Clayton, Corwin, Ciuenlen,
fJivis, Diytoi, Evans Green, Haywood,
luntinston, Jurnagin, Johnson, of Mary.
'and, Johnson, of Louidann, Lewin, Mo
Uume, Mangum, Mille-, Morchcad, Pearce,
i'hclps, S nnnont, S-icight, Upham, Webster,
Westcott, WoolbrilgL 'i.
S i tho amendment of Mr. Breese was re
,eetcd. Mr. Pennybacker here rose and stated hi
views in a few remarks, which are necessa
The question was then taken on a?rccinc
:o the anenhiient offered by Mr. Johnson,
tnd deci led as follows :
YEAS Messrs. Archer, Barrow, Borri
en, Cilhoun, Thomas Clayton, John M.
Jl avion, C irwin, Crittenden, Davis, Dayton,
riv ins, Grern, lay wood, Hun(in 'ton, Jar
lagin, 'J ihnson, of Miry land, Johnson, oi
Louisiana, Lewis, McDuflic, Mingun, Mil
'or, Mirehcad, Pcarce, Phelps, SimmHis,
i,)eight, Upham, Webster, Westcott, Wood
iri I 'o 10.
NAYS Messrs. Allen, Ashley, Atchison,
Atherton, Bigby, Benton, Breese, Bright,
Cameron, Cass, Chalmers, Dickinson, Dix,
Kiirtiold, Htnnesran, Houston, Jenness,
Nile, Ponnybacker, Rusk, Somple, Sjvier,
Sturjrenn, Turnoy 21.
So the amendment was adopted.
Mr. Allen then rosoand mode a violent at
tack on the Senators who had voted for thin
amendment, denouncing them with great
bitterness and vehemence. He then said :
" Bur, sir, the preamble now adopted is ut
terly inconsistent with the object of the reso
lution itself. The resolution, an just adopt
ed, leaves it to the discretion of tho President
whether he will give the notice or not ; while
the preamble tells him to go on. The pre
amble specifies the reasons on which the reeo.
lutien is eradicated, aad yet, notwithstshd
leg this, tWreoolutioa leaves the whole rest-
". a am s Jk
the Executive, sir, this question, or
ary power was raised elsewhere;
it was said that aivina the President m dis-
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oaary power to give ina nouoe wae lime
than eatriMtiaai him with the war-mik-
in pawer We defliBo the raaponeibility ef
vaaatisteilkr, we evade the deader, sre say
to taerrasiiiat, we leave the whole matter
with yen, altaouadi the PraaidaBt, in hie
sage, raeVntw the whole matter, to us. Bat
we do aoi oheose to iaour any resssesieihty
iatbe patter. r, I will not ga iaeftdw
aaanl oMseasnien ef this wMeatx bat I
I will say that after ao ovarwIMmiag a vote in
MMouseoi iue)reeeatauvae,aneraa uas
.almlty uapaiiUleled iwaa any queatiaa, it
aeemed ta ma thai tba ooasMeraUea wbkh
was due to that great organ of the popular
will, ought to have induced us to adopt the
resolution of the House. How will it be
when you send all this back to the
House, with a nreamDle containinir half u
dozen new principles, and resolution changed
in itt while oh mater from that of the
House, containing proportions which have
been already voted down by the House?
What will be the conaequr ace f Why, you
will re-open the discussion, make an issue
between the two Houses of Congress,' array
one against the other, and present the as
pect of a divided Congress. The House has
done an act ; the Senate has repudiated that
act, and yet we say we all desire unanimity.
Sir, it is an utter want of unanimity, by
keeping one House arrayed against the Pre.
sident, aa will be the case if this resolution
be adopted. There are Senators who even
say they blame the President for sending the
question to Congress ; who say that, in do
in? so, the President committed an act of
indiscretion ; and yet thoy say we act only
for the public good, and not from any feeling
of hosti'ity to the President. And. what do
they do t Why, they throw tho whole sub.
ject back to the President, to be managed in
fu'ure according to his discretion, although
after having condemned him for a want of
discretion in his past managenrnt. The
President will not decline the discretion I he
will ao behini no budi. I have no doubt
the President will tako the responsibility
which is sought to be imjKwd n him. But
that is no excuse for us, if the peace of the
country should be invo'ved, for declining all
the responsibility which ought properly to
res, upon our shoulders, for the purpose of
strengthening tho position of the Govern.
The Smato does not say they want the
treaty ended. No, sir, they want negotia
tion, bargain, traffic to proceed ; but they
have not declared that the convention shall
nnd. That is the state of the case. The
President told us he had done with negoj
tiition, and he recommended the law maki
:ng power to take up the subject ; and, inV
stead or doing sn, di 'ding, faltering, palter
in?, manacled, hampered, with a frightful
unwillingness to meet responsibility savin?
oh, we leave it all to your discretion. With
all these things staring them in the face, do
you think Great Bd tain, whose tridental,
ready holds the world in awe, will crouch,
will get on her knees to us ? Do you think
you will encourage Great Britain to give
up any thin; by showin?your unwillingness
to claim any thing 1 Not at all: I eball,
for one, vote, if I stand alone, against such
a pmccedin?, trusting that the final result of
the business mav produce a reeotutino more
in accordance with the interests and the dig
nity of the Senate.
Mr. Crittenden replied to Mr. Allen's
speech with equal bitterness huiHag-back
upon the Senator troro utuo, ate aaaunaa
tfoas and insinuations against tboat who re
fused to follow his lead. The feHowioa ex
tracts will show the temper efMr. QV reply.
He would not sutler impuiathmf aeon aa
those' which the gentlemen bad ejeJeagalast
the action and character or the Jfcaaw, to
nana altogether without notioe. What ask
ed Mr. d, is his oommtasioaf and whence
is it derived? and who authorised ma, lo as
sume here the air and tone, of jwebemaa
whioh so strongly marks hie language f w
rUwln. ihm Hnt. 0 weal ssaai
dose this our Camr fcad" that If hi rate
here and lecture us for dsckuab wJUoh we
have deemed it our daty.to oaasal Where
did hs come fro T I. k' taallty oA
floe of chairman of the onmmfctii cFbr.
elgn Relationa which warrata ynv at Me
nw oBTaioii. to nut oa these akm at ahori.
ty? to assume tksW predomlaaooa t aaoTtO
lecture ua as to oar eAoial duty, aa kfjima
now done? She Ssaate had jm adapted a
reeolution aioaoaM to K by
asjeit aad alavMi rmilatfsa. Let ma
tell Mm that he doraaet knew this body, nor
the matsvWof wbiefcst keaawasad. .Aad
let ass ads, there ia aaotheraatTa more dafJ.
e!t Jeasr whiee I war she senator has yet
to Uam, aad ahs is, tohasw hhsmlf, Whrn
ha kaowa hhaaslf a Uttte; better, be will be
ia drtmasjtaaees better loaereaieie what ia
due from Mm totaeeeaale. He may vauat
himself in Me aawmai efiot ofeielasiva
vindicator of tba Presideat of the UaHed
States, and deftaaVr ef the honor of tba
House of Repreeeatathrse;. but that adyaa
of ooasideratJea. Aa a member of tba eefr.
ate, I tVfl that its dignity he bees assailed,
and its character traduced. My own persaa
al ahara in tba remarks of tbVajrM2easa0,
and my owa perseaal eenee or isnarv aad
ofleaee, araakaorbed m tba stroaacrcoavie.
lion of tba dierespeet which has beta awaL
feeted tawarda this body. Tba Masse baa
adopted tba rubstaace of a rcaolutioa which
I had myralf the honor to offer, aad tbeeaa;
tlcman baa t It himself authorised to eeaur
acterize a reeolution which bad just receives!
the saact!oa of this body as a poor, paltry,
faltering, timid,, tremulous thug. I oaai tall
that eaaatortbat the m-jority of tbie.Peaale
and tbehamMe iadividusl who now eddreai
es it, are aa little moved by tba dread of aaj
respoBstDUity out that or coing wrong, aatbe
ohairmaa of the committee of PorsafB Ra
Does it belong to this body to eubavt la
remarks, ao matter with what sWbe or vehe
mence of gesticulation aad loadaam of taaia
they ma be delive-ed, whioh coavsy iajari.
ous imputations on its ofieial exmiaa aad
puuw acts 7 I, for oae, saall act atamlajra
to rebuke, nor to hear this sa
called to account by any
Tba caailemaa uadertakaa to maba I
tba advocate and defsadsr ef the H
Rspressoutives.Whyvsir, wboor waai ia
the. House of Repreeeatstiree af tbafJaitad
Statee, that it stsadshtaafrsaeiaa ad.
vooate ? The gentle'maa'e advaaaey aaaa
of the houea of Coagrees is eaaslly aa'aat
of supererogation, shall I aay of emamii'lhai,
with his rebuke of the other. Who here baa
arraigned the House of HspreaeatsUveaf
Who is there amoasc ua that data aet thiaa:
of and treat it, with the asost'.'pralbiiad ia
very experieaoed geatlemaa that tba
House of Repressfltativee fa a aeordiaaea
branch of the AnwricangoyarnmsritT Aad
when before did any member ef this body
rise in his place and tell aa tsmt smaira taba
controlled in our actiaabere.by.tba jabtieoor
majorities, or tba faraaaesa eT amiorWes, i
the House of Coogrees? . - " . '.
There is a word or two mora I wish la add
before I sit down, rhoea wa; shall gat aft
Cltixmn. . I honm we bmv have tl 'ua ta Kt
'degrees 40 rainuUa; but then if I ou't gat
all that, L for one am willing to submit If
take 40 degrees. But I do not like to bear k
said (hat.iam on the records of tba etpfhi
as having 'voted that our Utla ia good
54 degrees 40 minutas ; yet t find that atafal
ment, expressly made in a speech of hie
which I will here quota.
nx. u. nere is mm suwraci iroro a ip eenai
formerly delivered by Mr, Allan.
Mr.' Allen rejoined in regard to the bOl
relating to Oregon, to which alluelea baa
been. made, the aaaator eavs it was aatv far
extending our tawa over Oregon. ' There fa
some little dlnVraooe, the maator wtsiM lan
between that eaaetmeatM sytttatt legajsa.
edby Great Brkaia oae ia 1801.
other ia 1824. Ia thaw set ao maiia
aastgned; they might .saa aoasafaed te ai
teaa utroagneut laa aassaa
adatiaeat, aad froai tbeaoaas)
leed m wHrnits.NDU .weaeasv.tiaffai
that way? FarviC7 cMd
with compaai emfl amoia m
... .-.".:.' i a. ..rf'i
they vrauM aa 'MMaefad- by aar KaAI
llanguaga of the law hi not gsaiiaJ.
Allen aamraeaa aoruoaot tajeaatr.
an ilia siiiwh nf ths snt emertsaaetat sasaTJi
for whkh the aenate voted, art wbtabata
saata paesed. Waal right bad wa lajlasil
svlthaa Thill sf