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... -,:. .,w K-ifme- In tlM MMt, OO em alu Notice sattt. the loth Inetaat, afar uatmportaat wmm Mr. urittentMn spoke two hours oarthe queelionof " pe." WkM Mr. CrJttaadea had ooacladed his flMMArkt Mr. Allen, agreeably to previousnotice eaovod to lay on tne UWo the reaolui eerted from the committee on Koraicn Keia- tJone, aad lake up as a substitute the jomt resolutions from the Houas of Repreeenta lives, which wae aoquieaceci in wltheor'a division, and tl e 8enate proceeded to consid er the Houeo resolutions, aa follows: Resetted by the. Senate and House of Rep. rwsattfi'aei of the United State of America t Vtmgvte atiembUd, That the President of the United States cause notice to be given to the Government of Great Britain that the convention between the United Statee of America and Great Britain, concerning the territory on tho northwest coast of America, west of the Stony mountains, of the 6th of August, I8i7, signed at London, shall be sn. nulled an I abrogated twelve months after giving said notice. 2. And be it further reto'oed. That no thing heroin contained is intended to inter fore with the right and discretion of the pro. per authorities of the two contracting parties to isnow or pursue negotiations for an ami cable settlemjnt of the controversy respect ing tho Oregon territory. Mr. Johnson, of Miryland, then mov ed as a substitute fur the above resolutions of the House an amendment in the following word : "Strike out all after tho enacting clause, and insert: That by the convention conclud cd the twentieth day of October, eighteen hundred and eighteen, between the Unite St' t.s of America and the King of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, fir tho pirio I often years, an I afterward in.lof initely extended and continued in force by another convntiosi of the Ha no pirtics, con cluded tho sixth day of August, in the year of our Lord one thouaud eight hundred and twenty .seven, it was agreed that any coun try that may bo claiino I by either party on the northwest count of America westward 01 the S:ony or Rocky mount iin, now common ly called the Oregon territory, should, to. gethcr with its harbor, bays and creeks, and the navigation of all rivers within the same, be " free anJ open" to the vessel, citizen and Kubjccts of tho two Pjwom, but witlioul prejudice to any claim which either of tin parties might havu to any part of tal 1 couu try; an I with thin further provinhn, in tin second article of tho said convention of tin sixth of August, eighteen huu I red and twen ty-'wsven, that either party in'ghl abroati and annul slid convention, on giving due no tice of twelve month to the other contract ing party " That it has now becorna desirable that the respective claim i of the United St ties and Great Britain should bo definitely settled, and that sail tern.ory may no longor than need bo remain subjoct to the evil consequen ces of tho divi led allegiance of its Auioricati and British population, and of the confusion and conflict of n ttionnl jurisdictions, danger ous to the chorish'-d pea-jo an I good unJer atandinr of the two countries ind. there fore, that stops bo taken for tho abrogation of u3 nam convention oi wo sixtll-oi August, eighteen hundred and twenty-aovon, in the moJo proscribed in its second article, aui that tho attention of tho Governments of both countries may bo mora earnestly and immodiatoly directed to renewed efforts for tho amioiblo settlement of all their diifjren ces and disputes in rospect to aa;d territory " Ani ba it father rewind, That tha1 Pres ident of the United States be, and he is here 'fy authorized, at his discration, to give to thVBritish Government the notice required by its said second artiole for the abroga'ion of the said oonvontioo of the sixth of Au gust, eighteen hundred and twenty-seven." Mr. Allen jthen moved to amend the second clause of Mr. Johnson's amendment by strik ing out all after the word "has," ia the first line, aad inserting : " Become the duty of Congress to ooasid er what measure it may be proper to adopt ior she eeourity and nroteotiea -of our oiti aeas aew inhibiting or who may hereafter inhabit Oregoo, anl thomalntnioe,of our JuAtlUetoibat territory." T" - " After eerao oonversation aa to thepofats ef oroer, tne annate prooeedert to vote ; aad, upon tba question of agrttiag to the amend- Oregon Spectator, " WeawsaJ lbs Mar ef Esjeke tskss Ms amy." I ToL L Oracaa City. (Cracon Tar. Thaniav. ffetaW i teac aav ia - -' ' ' ., SVWV, Mil - ' mmmmmmmummmtmmwmmmwmmmmmm MarjkwrV (Mr; ft. filewa,) srhea eWfea. tlesasssflwe) Ohio a .am eM mm IiTaJs yieee that tba arte .up aeti safe nmeaisiainHseif-. hat it bad adoewd mineral!, fceNe, tal anac, eaattobtad, aad (aa , ematf have meat of Mr. Allen, it wae decided, by yeas and nays, as follows : -'' YBABMessn. Allen, Ashley, Atchison, Atherton, Bagby, Bcatoa, Breese, Bright, Cameron, Cms, Chalmers, Dickinson, Dix, I'airfield, ilanaegan, Jeaacss, Niles, Scruple, Sjvior, Surgecxi, Turney, Westcott Ml. NAYS Messrs. Archer, Barrow, Berri en, Calhoun, T. Clayton, Jno. M. Clayton, Corwin, Crittendea, Davis, Dayton, Evans, Green. II lywood, Houston, Huntington, Jar nigin, Johnson, of Maryland, Johnson, of Louisiana, Lowi, McDufuo, Mantua, Mil ler, Mornhead, Pcarce, Pennybacker, Phelps, Rusk, Simmons, Speight, Upbam, Webster, Woodbridg- i. S i the amendment was rercted. Mr. B-ecao hero submitted an amendment, to strike out the works "at his dicretion," in ;he last clause of the resolution. The yeas and nays being ordorcd, it was Jccidcd as follows : YIAS Messrs. Allen, Aslily, Atchison, Atherton, Bagby, Breese, Bright, Cora. ran, Cass, DickinMm, Dix, Fairtiold, iiinnegan, I Imston, Jenncss, Niles, Pennybacker, KmV, icmple, Suvicr, Sturgeon, Turney il. NAYS Messrs. Archer, Barrow, Bonton, Ujrrion, Cilhoun, Cha'mcrH, Thomu Clay ton, John M. Clayton, Corwin, Ciuenlen, fJivis, Diytoi, Evans Green, Haywood, luntinston, Jurnagin, Johnson, of Mary. 'and, Johnson, of Louidann, Lewin, Mo Uume, Mangum, Mille-, Morchcad, Pearce, i'hclps, S nnnont, S-icight, Upham, Webster, Westcott, WoolbrilgL 'i. S i tho amendment of Mr. Breese was re ,eetcd. Mr. Pennybacker here rose and stated hi views in a few remarks, which are necessa rily deferred. The question was then taken on a?rccinc :o the anenhiient offered by Mr. Johnson, tnd deci led as follows : YEAS Messrs. Archer, Barrow, Borri en, Cilhoun, Thomas Clayton, John M. Jl avion, C irwin, Crittenden, Davis, Dayton, riv ins, Grern, lay wood, Hun(in 'ton, Jar lagin, 'J ihnson, of Miry land, Johnson, oi Louisiana, Lewis, McDuflic, Mingun, Mil 'or, Mirehcad, Pcarce, Phelps, SimmHis, i,)eight, Upham, Webster, Westcott, Wood iri I 'o 10. NAYS Messrs. Allen, Ashley, Atchison, Atherton, Bigby, Benton, Breese, Bright, Cameron, Cass, Chalmers, Dickinson, Dix, Kiirtiold, Htnnesran, Houston, Jenness, Nile, Ponnybacker, Rusk, Somple, Sjvier, Sturjrenn, Turnoy 21. So the amendment was adopted. Mr. Allen then rosoand mode a violent at tack on the Senators who had voted for thin amendment, denouncing them with great bitterness and vehemence. He then said : " Bur, sir, the preamble now adopted is ut terly inconsistent with the object of the reso lution itself. The resolution, an just adopt ed, leaves it to the discretion of tho President whether he will give the notice or not ; while the preamble tells him to go on. The pre amble specifies the reasons on which the reeo. lutien is eradicated, aad yet, notwithstshd leg this, tWreoolutioa leaves the whole rest- ". a am s Jk the Executive, sir, this question, or ary power was raised elsewhere; it was said that aivina the President m dis- . . r .... ..... oaary power to give ina nouoe wae lime than eatriMtiaai him with the war-mik- in pawer We defliBo the raaponeibility ef gtvtag.tae.aaUeeaeirsalvee; wadeuliaetae vaaatisteilkr, we evade the deader, sre say to taerrasiiiat, we leave the whole matter with yen, altaouadi the PraaidaBt, in hie sage, raeVntw the whole matter, to us. Bat we do aoi oheose to iaour any resssesieihty iatbe patter. r, I will not ga iaeftdw aaanl oMseasnien ef this wMeatx bat I I will say that after ao ovarwIMmiag a vote in MMouseoi iue)reeeatauvae,aneraa uas .almlty uapaiiUleled iwaa any queatiaa, it aeemed ta ma thai tba ooasMeraUea wbkh was due to that great organ of the popular will, ought to have induced us to adopt the resolution of the House. How will it be when you send all this back to the now. House, with a nreamDle containinir half u dozen new principles, and resolution changed in itt while oh mater from that of the House, containing proportions which have been already voted down by the House? What will be the conaequr ace f Why, you will re-open the discussion, make an issue between the two Houses of Congress,' array one against the other, and present the as pect of a divided Congress. The House has done an act ; the Senate has repudiated that act, and yet we say we all desire unanimity. Sir, it is an utter want of unanimity, by keeping one House arrayed against the Pre. sident, aa will be the case if this resolution be adopted. There are Senators who even say they blame the President for sending the question to Congress ; who say that, in do in? so, the President committed an act of indiscretion ; and yet thoy say we act only for the public good, and not from any feeling of hosti'ity to the President. And. what do they do t Why, they throw tho whole sub. ject back to the President, to be managed in fu'ure according to his discretion, although after having condemned him for a want of discretion in his past managenrnt. The President will not decline the discretion I he will ao behini no budi. I have no doubt the President will tako the responsibility which is sought to be imjKwd n him. But that is no excuse for us, if the peace of the country should be invo'ved, for declining all the responsibility which ought properly to res, upon our shoulders, for the purpose of strengthening tho position of the Govern. ment. The Smato does not say they want the treaty ended. No, sir, they want negotia tion, bargain, traffic to proceed ; but they have not declared that the convention shall nnd. That is the state of the case. The President told us he had done with negoj tiition, and he recommended the law maki :ng power to take up the subject ; and, inV stead or doing sn, di 'ding, faltering, palter in?, manacled, hampered, with a frightful unwillingness to meet responsibility savin? oh, we leave it all to your discretion. With all these things staring them in the face, do you think Great Bd tain, whose tridental, ready holds the world in awe, will crouch, will get on her knees to us ? Do you think you will encourage Great Britain to give up any thin; by showin?your unwillingness to claim any thing 1 Not at all: I eball, for one, vote, if I stand alone, against such a pmccedin?, trusting that the final result of the business mav produce a reeotutino more in accordance with the interests and the dig nity of the Senate. Mr. Crittenden replied to Mr. Allen's speech with equal bitterness huiHag-back upon the Senator troro utuo, ate aaaunaa tfoas and insinuations against tboat who re fused to follow his lead. The feHowioa ex tracts will show the temper efMr. QV reply. He would not sutler impuiathmf aeon aa those' which the gentlemen bad ejeJeagalast the action and character or the Jfcaaw, to nana altogether without notioe. What ask ed Mr. d, is his oommtasioaf and whence is it derived? and who authorised ma, lo as sume here the air and tone, of jwebemaa whioh so strongly marks hie language f w rUwln. ihm Hnt. 0 weal ssaai dose this our Camr fcad" that If hi rate here and lecture us for dsckuab wJUoh we have deemed it our daty.to oaasal Where did hs come fro T I. k' taallty oA floe of chairman of the onmmfctii cFbr. elgn Relationa which warrata ynv at Me nw oBTaioii. to nut oa these akm at ahori. ty? to assume tksW predomlaaooa t aaoTtO lecture ua as to oar eAoial duty, aa kfjima now done? She Ssaate had jm adapted a reeolution aioaoaM to K by smsHBaVesaW asjeit aad alavMi rmilatfsa. Let ma tell Mm that he doraaet knew this body, nor the matsvWof wbiefcst keaawasad. .Aad let ass ads, there ia aaotheraatTa more dafJ. e!t Jeasr whiee I war she senator has yet to Uam, aad ahs is, tohasw hhsmlf, Whrn ha kaowa hhaaslf a Uttte; better, be will be ia drtmasjtaaees better loaereaieie what ia due from Mm totaeeeaale. He may vauat himself in Me aawmai efiot ofeielasiva vindicator of tba Presideat of the UaHed States, and deftaaVr ef the honor of tba House of Repreeeatathrse;. but that adyaa himnowariranttotnattfckrwitbawaat of ooasideratJea. Aa a member of tba eefr. ate, I tVfl that its dignity he bees assailed, and its character traduced. My own persaa al ahara in tba remarks of tbVajrM2easa0, and my owa perseaal eenee or isnarv aad ofleaee, araakaorbed m tba stroaacrcoavie. lion of tba dierespeet which has beta awaL feeted tawarda this body. Tba Masse baa adopted tba rubstaace of a rcaolutioa which I had myralf the honor to offer, aad tbeeaa; tlcman baa t It himself authorised to eeaur acterize a reeolution which bad just receives! the saact!oa of this body as a poor, paltry, faltering, timid,, tremulous thug. I oaai tall that eaaatortbat the m-jority of tbie.Peaale and tbehamMe iadividusl who now eddreai es it, are aa little moved by tba dread of aaj respoBstDUity out that or coing wrong, aatbe ohairmaa of the committee of PorsafB Ra lathms. Does it belong to this body to eubavt la remarks, ao matter with what sWbe or vehe mence of gesticulation aad loadaam of taaia they ma be delive-ed, whioh coavsy iajari. ous imputations on its ofieial exmiaa aad puuw acts 7 I, for oae, saall act atamlajra to rebuke, nor to hear this sa called to account by any Tba caailemaa uadertakaa to maba I tba advocate and defsadsr ef the H Rspressoutives.Whyvsir, wboor waai ia the. House of Repreeeatstiree af tbafJaitad Statee, that it stsadshtaafrsaeiaa ad. vooate ? The gentle'maa'e advaaaey aaaa of the houea of Coagrees is eaaslly aa'aat of supererogation, shall I aay of emamii'lhai, with his rebuke of the other. Who here baa arraigned the House of HspreaeatsUveaf Who is there amoasc ua that data aet thiaa: of and treat it, with the asost'.'pralbiiad ia r;? WboamaBgusisBawtiejafmm very experieaoed geatlemaa that tba House of Repressfltativee fa a aeordiaaea branch of the AnwricangoyarnmsritT Aad when before did any member ef this body rise in his place and tell aa tsmt smaira taba controlled in our actiaabere.by.tba jabtieoor majorities, or tba faraaaesa eT amiorWes, i the House of Coogrees? . - " . '. There is a word or two mora I wish la add before I sit down, rhoea wa; shall gat aft Cltixmn. . I honm we bmv have tl 'ua ta Kt 'degrees 40 rainuUa; but then if I ou't gat all that, L for one am willing to submit If take 40 degrees. But I do not like to bear k said (hat.iam on the records of tba etpfhi as having 'voted that our Utla ia good 54 degrees 40 minutas ; yet t find that atafal ment, expressly made in a speech of hie which I will here quota. nx. u. nere is mm suwraci iroro a ip eenai formerly delivered by Mr, Allan. Mr.' Allen rejoined in regard to the bOl relating to Oregon, to which alluelea baa been. made, the aaaator eavs it was aatv far extending our tawa over Oregon. ' There fa some little dlnVraooe, the maator wtsiM lan between that eaaetmeatM sytttatt legajsa. tKMsMwntAamtateet. iisoaaiswai edby Great Brkaia oae ia 1801. other ia 1824. Ia thaw set ao maiia aastgned; they might .saa aoasafaed te ai teaa utroagneut laa aassaa adatiaeat, aad froai tbeaoaas) to4rM'lae4eo.TBM . leed m wHrnits.NDU .weaeasv.tiaffai that way? FarviC7 cMd eMrawrsaieebf.sairaaaotl with compaai emfl amoia m ... .-.".:.' i a. ..rf'i ZZZttZX they vrauM aa 'MMaefad- by aar KaAI llanguaga of the law hi not gsaiiaJ. Allen aamraeaa aoruoaot tajeaatr. an ilia siiiwh nf ths snt emertsaaetat sasaTJi for whkh the aenate voted, art wbtabata saata paesed. Waal right bad wa lajlasil aaam'MmaK svlthaa Thill sf i ;