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About The Sunday Oregonian. (Portland, Ore.) 1881-current | View Entire Issue (Oct. 25, 1908)
THE SUNDAY OREGOyiAy. PORTLAND. OCTOBER 25, 1903. 0 ID rrp- J 0 k3 I A substantial and elegant top for this car can be fur nished for $75.00. The latest type of glass front for $35.00. t 3 I'l ' Si' 1 II " J Certainly the magneto is a part of the stan dard equipment, and includedin the regular price of the car. STUDE BAKER E. M. F. 30 ROADSTER STUDEBAKER E. M. F. 30 ROADSTER 1 1 1 il-rCisK W THE WONDER OF THE AG E t j:-s.h rr v. r. 5 rWi- nrrW bpfnre seem this remarkable car we will have them here for your inspection NSmtelf SSL"6 W?Sf deliver E. M. F. Thirties in Portland with full Pggrf three oil lamps, two gas lamps and generator, complete tool equipment, filled with gasoline and oil ready for use for $ 1 4UU. H B H R O 330-336 EAST MORRISON STREET E FIGHT IS TO BEGIN FOHCH OHSHIP Preliminary Football Games of Season Are Now Out of Way. CHANCE FOR OREGON EVEN fitrn:Ie With Idaho Will Bo Good Test of Each Team's Abilities, Says KeleTt O. A. O. Work ing Hard to Get In Slinpe- BT EEFKr.E!. Now that the preliminary football games are oat of the way Interest nat- - . nn tha mniefla for the Northwest championship, which begins next Saturday, wnen ws . ho at Moscow, and when the Oregon Ag ricultural College lines up against Wash ington at Seattle. . , The outcome of these grtillron battles will be watched with interest all over . - ,i . fn. wn of the Conference teams will undoubtedly be counted out of the championship race. A month ago the warns of Oregon and Corvallls were . . . m vln,-. ftrdf their IdahO pirKCU U ra.i ........... - - and Washington rivals, but conditions have changed somewnat During w.o v- ten days, and at the present time the result of each game is a "" ulation. Coach Combats Heary Odds. s4 The writer saw Oreson put up a medi ocre article of football against a leara of her own alumni stars at Eugene a week ago. Coach Forbes has been work ing against heavy odds, but Is develop- i - tMtn and baa at least a tair chanoe of winning from Mlddleton'a ..rt Samrdar. The Oregon rivicKco ut - lineup wOl contain three or four Teterans and eeven or eigni. imimicu. will average a trifle over 1.0 poimds, ..-ii i nA -nH If Inn and will ftpnt hard. The Oregon defense is first class. Clark's punting la good. Moullen Is- ac curate on his place kicks and the men have confidence In their coach and In each other. These are the elements that may cause Oregon to win over her uem siaie rivm. r Ha fai?t that two-thirds of the team have never played in an Intercollegiate gam causes Oregon supporters to look with some misgivings upon me result. Xo Freshnren on Idaho Team. While Idaho has lost a good bunch of her men of last year, their plsoea ' hare been filled by substitutes and sec ond team reserves. There are no freah- . ulwiw HneuD. All the men II It-1. lu have served under Miadleton before and they know his methods. Their style of attack is versatile, their defense strong and their fighting spirit of a high or der. They underweigh Oregon slightly. . - -i-; . ,1 ..,.. n t .- i offset bv the DUt Tl& " , . . . i fact that the coming game Is on tneir t own grounds. The only weak point about the Idaho team Ilea In the fact that It . A hnnrflran will nu no pui.mi, w' ' - be especially noticeable in a contest with men like ClarK ana Mouuen. ituieii a whole, the chances for victory seem t h. abont evenly distributed between Oregon and Idaho. Washington Out for Blood. Roth Waahington and O. A. C. have been filling the paper with bear sto ries, although Washington's stock took a skyward direction when KaDCOCK, oanxa and Jaryla joined the squad two weeks ago. Coach iomes men piayeu hub. around Whltworth, and there is no deny ing the fact that they are out ror sweet revenge against O. A. C. It will be remembered that Washington has not de feated the Oregon Aggies since 1903, al though no game was played last season between these elevens. Washington Is not only out to defeat O. A. C, but she has a notion that Oregon. Pullman and other Northwest teams are In line for a walloping. Despite the criticisms that have been hurled at him. Coach Doblo Is developing a high-class team at Se attle, and If the O. A. C players nave a notion that the coming game will be a one-aided affair they certainly have another guess coming. With seven old players as a nucleus and with a wealth of good material at his command. Coach Norcrosa is building up a most formidable football machine at Corvallls. The strength of the Oregon Agricultural College bunch Is as yet un known, but the wise ones say that It will be stronger than last season's eleven. As a punter and place-ktcker, Wolff la always a dangerous man, and in these departments of the game the Agricultural College men should out-class Washing ton. The writer takes no stock in the hard luck stories that have come down from corvallls. He predicts a hard, close game at Seattle, but is Inclined to 'the belief that Oregon Agricultural College will win. O. A. C. Has Xo Freshman Team. General regret la expressed at the In ability of O. A. C. to put out a freshman eleven. Considerable interest had been aroused because of the announcement of a freshman Intercollegiate game between O. A. C. and Oregon. The university peo ple had gone to some trouble and ex pense In the matter of equipment and coaching and a very creditable eleven had been developed from the ranks of the baby class. The writer has no desire to make any unjust criticism of the O. A. C. management, but nevertheless feels that a mistake has been made. The university freshmen have played a series of preliminary games and some of them will be ready for varsity positions next season, while O. A. C. will have no fresh men reserves from which to draw. & .nTri hn rone un from many quarters, because Mucklestone and Eaklns, both of whom are said to have played last season on the North rakota Agricultural college learn, are ueuie uku bv Washington In violation of the con- . . T . t- .-.A tVo (V'PM lerence 1 1-: : n' ... . IIICI1 wit. wo mo ' " ' ' tion by the faculty athletic committee of the University of Washington and that mey win un - - the evidence shows that they are being plavea in yioihuwh ui i-i . -""-" pretty hard things have been said about the Washington management and Coach Doble. but Judgment should not be passed until a searching; Investigation Is By a vote of 4 to X the Northwest Con ference Colleges have applied a strict construction to the four-year rule and have made the regulation retroactive. Thli excludes Koder, the Pullman half back and Edmunson. the Idaho runner, besides a number of Whitman's best men. It will exclude Jamison, the O. A. C giant- Huston, the Oregon sprinter; Small. Idaho's famous quarterback, and -1 . i,a A.. H nf this Tear. several omerw " " - The writer has discussed the injustice of this ruling until nis on "'"- . a 1. 1 m hAji become ine patience oi ' - - -- exhausted, ao no additional comment will nnnn nun rumu iv nr IlliU I VI HI DL IN TWO LEAGUES All Kinds of Stories Being Cir culated Regarding Mc Credie's Plans. REAL INTENTION IN DOUBT Kose Cltr May or May Not Be In Northwest and Pacific Coast Iieasnes at Same Time, Mag nates Refuso to Say. BT W. J. PETRAIJf. . Auni oMrfpmnnt nf the baseball map of the Pacific Coast and Northwest League circuits iw son of 1909 forms more oi a .i.- i . r thA American ana Na tional League games in September. Rumors and aeniais are mui's -with the utmost abandon, and In all oi . i. n,.,.l Portland Is II1B pniiiynuiuiin .... . . the principal baseball stronghold under discussion, from oeatue v .ci. Portland Is to be affiliated with the Northwest League, and also maintain a team In the Pacific Coast League. Aber deen has it that Russ Hall, the Pacific Coast League deserter of 1906. Is to be employed by McCredie as manager for Portland's Lucas league team. And down California way. every spare Inch of space is being devoted to statements from Walter McCredie. who Is quoted in San Francisco as being unalterably opposed to continuous baseball in Los Angeles. In the Angel City he Is quoted Just the opposite, or as being In favor of giving the Angels all the baseball . they want and then some. ' . ii v. a mmm-a undoubtedly have some foundation, but as far as known to the writer, Walter Mccreuie is yet be quoted exactly on any subject. Per . .v.. .oi.it of the Interviewers. nap. it w - - for the next day after a statement Is attributed the valiant manager oi me n .i j it K..T- hn nr his uncle IT til ......... throws oold water on the statement by a partial or complete denial of the point taken. From sucn a m k. i.rt tn. believe that Walter Me- - .An.Ashnt fnennslAtent. Hut I .rtMiiw . L. i . . . .. - then he may be a firm advocate of the paraphrase, "lnconsisiency us a. jcwoi, .v... ir-.n ihA fnrtM and some of ana uwiy? ' . his Immediate friends guessing continu ally. It may De a iot oi iuh m. n iulci . but is hardly appreciated by the general Seattle advances the theory that Porf land has already been admitted into the Northwest League, and goes on to prove . - tk.t MnCredle is Jraft- I L uy ttuiiwLii.v... tag all of the available minor league talent he can possioiy ij ma unuiw with the Idea of forming his two clubs . . , V. j mimtwr At least. irom ainuiiet ; , 7 such Is the view of the matter taken by the Seattle Times expert uueutu. .mon ster, who last season had it all figured . 1 n,...u onrl hi. "snlend Id" team OUt HUM AUV was going to make a runaway raoa of the Northwest League season. Dug made , good ell right, iie ran away other teams, only he ran the wrong way. and thereby iustltlea ine press prophesies. The Inconsistency of the Seattle baseball writers naj even McCredie faded Into retirement when it comes to doping out "splendid" teams. Despite the denials of Walter McCre die. as well as those of his uncle, who. by the way Is as thoroughly reliable on baseball topics as his nephew Is uie op posite, there seems to be some founda tion for the frequency 01 mo emanating from the Puget Sound terri tory. By way of placing the baseball situa tion before the public, the aforementioned Seattle oracle starts on a cu.uum In the following manner: Announcement made by -Walter McCredie that he has 36 baseball players under con tract ior next bwibuu c. ...... j . 1 . onavA WIH anllt tht list SO LIIO fUrLlUUU " - - - as to allot 18 to each of his two clubs, the Class -A" club of the Pacific Coast league and the Class B duo or me oruiLi u League. It again emphasises that Portland will be a member ot the Northwestern league next year and that McCredie ex pects to put me wmrci- wi " In the Rose City. . . (.V. V t- M-1- TlllfA W. W McCredie. owns the Portland franchises, is 'placed in the rather odd position of be in the only baseball manager In the coun try who owns two clubs In one city. It Is unpTeceaentea, Biinousa inuv.. - club are known to have large holdings in other clubs. MoCredle's 87 players may explain a whole lot to the Seattle scribe, but here 1 t . .1 a 4-v.A ..n. wonM bA much more 111 rui .. satisfied If both the McCredles and the other Pacific Coast League magnates would do a little explaining 01 tneir in tentions for the coming season. -.T Dnilanfl n1nllV TV A WOUld nero ui a w. , u . be much more satisfied If Messrs. Ewlng and Berry had aevotea rneir ciiutm iu discussing the prospects for a reorganiza tion of the Pacific Coast League circuit for next season Instead of meandering off to witness the world's series, where .1 rt..cl. tA aTYYiinri Chlrneo with a challenge to the world's champions for a series with the ios Angeies iiud at mo end of the present season In the South land. M According to th present status or baseball affairs there Is to be nothing doing In the matter of next season s circuit until the annual meeting of the league, several weeks hence, and It is quite probable that Portland will be classed as both a Northwest Leaguo and Pacific Coast League city until that meeting shall definitely settle the prop osition. , . Los Angeles is stm hankering for con tinuous baseball, and to Judge by the ru mors referred to above. It Is quite prob able that the "hanker" will be gratified, and It la also quite probable that the Mo Credies' consent to such an agreement will be secured by granting them the right to enter a team In the Northwest League, which would serve to place Portland on the same plane as Los An geles in being doubly represented upon the diamond. However, Seattle's argument, based on MoCredle's -having signed, drafted or bought 36 or 87 players for next season, is of little or no significance as far as the present Issue is concerned, for It will be remembered that the Portland team last Spring was composed of something like 85 players before the Spring train ing stunts were commenced. In the meantime, let us hope that Walter McCredie will continue to give out Interviews, and Seattle continue to initiate Portland Into the Northwest League, while between times we might devote a little of our spars attention to the National campaign. Ttfet at the Electric Fountain In th Perkins Grill, and listen to Webber's Novel?" Orchestra at 12 o'clock lunch, o'clock dinner and after the theater. We are delivering W0 Cttialmers 0." Keats Auto Ca. '09 Stoddard-Daytons Are Here itchells Are Here '09 Reos Are Here CAN YOU BEAT THIS LINE? '09 M 45-H. p. 45-H. p. 45-H. p. 35-H. p. 35-H. p. 25-H. P. 25-H. P. 40-H. P. 30-H. P. can be 20-H. P. 22-H. 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