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Newspaper Page TextTIIE SUNDAY OREGONIAN, PORTLAND, OCTOBER 4, 1908. HANLQN DECIDES HE IS OUT OP IT One More Worn-out Scrapper Gathered to Pugilistic Scrap-Heap. MORAN AFTER NELSON NOW Cockjr Engli.-liman Thinks American Lightweight Xot So Mucli Ad herents Look for Ketchel to Beat Papke Next Time. BT HARRY B. SMITH. PAX KKAXCiaCO. Oct. 1. Special Cor respondence.) Another popular idol of Ban Francisco has been gathered to the scrap heap. Eddie Hanlon. after being decisively beaten by Owen Moran, featherweight, has decided that he is out of the game. That la a hard admis sion for a prizefighter to make. Even old Fltzsimnions thinks that he haa punrh loft and la atlll searching for a match instead of a berth in the Old People's Home. Hanlon went down gamely enough: no ftghtrr could have made a better finish. but he i out and out for good. An old axiom of the rim? has been proved again. It Is that a lighter who quits the game for a year or more haa quit It for good as far as his usefulness as a bllTer goes In looking over Hanlon's career it would seem that it haa been one long succession of mistakes. When he was barely more than a boy he was put up against ton-notchers. At li he was fight lug oung t'orbett. who was then at his best. Instead of being gradually worked Into the business he was put against the toughest in It. That waa bad man- segment. Take Eritt. He was no better than Hanlon and showed no more promise in his early days but he was carefully hamllori. Brother Villus hunted men for him that he could whip. What was the result? Brltt acquired money, glory and experience and held the championship of the world for a while. Now, he Is coinfortablely fixed and Is traveling in Kurope. That was good management .and much of the credit is due to Brother ""Wtllus. Had Hanlon been half as care fully handled there Is no telling to what height he might have' attained. As it Is he Is out of the game, though he is still young and has not had half of what was coming to him. In these days management Is half the game. Moran Has Illph Ambitions. What doyou think Moran Is after now? Nothing more nor less tlutn the scalp of Battling Nelson. The cocky little Eng lishman has been having the halluctna tlon that American lightweights are not so many and his defeat of Hanlon clinches that belief. He thinks that he can chip the Dtjno to pieces in a short fight and will be camping on his trail until be gets a match. To experts it does not seem from Moran s showing with Hanlon that he has a chance with the Battler. He showed that he does not like the boring ln fighter. Hanlon fights much the same as the Dane and weak as he was he hurt lloran lth body punches. If Hanlon can make him wince with downstairs blows Nelson could pound out his wind in a few rounds. It seems certain that Paeky M.-Farland and Nelson will meet here some time this year. Parky Is eager for the meeting and Nelson will probably be induced to sign for several reasons. One of them Is the meeting of the lillfornia legislature, whlrh may take a fall out of the fight game. It is now possible to hold long fights at ColTroth's pavilion, at Colma. and Nelson likes the long route. When he begins to fear that the Legislature may kill the extended round game he may sign to beat them to It. That la one of the arguments which Promoter 0-ffroth will use to bring him around. Abe Attell has refused an offer to fight Jim Prtscoll. the English featherweight In New York. Drlscoll is the toughest and the cleverest in the game on the other side of the pond and would put up a great battle with the Hebrew fighter. Several of the local promoters are work ing to get this go and it may come to California. Mnran-Attcll Controversy. The Moran-Attell controversy will probably never be settled here. The fans will not stand for anything but a finish fight between the pair, and Attell declares that he will not go over 10 rounds. Attell Jumped into Hanlon's corner during the fight Wed nesday night and gave Cute the bene fit of his a.ivi.-e. Stanley Ketchel Is rusticating in the woods at present. There are many here who believe that he will hang it on Papke when the pair meet again. With a pair like Papke and Ketchel it depends much on -who gets In the first punch. They are like a pair of Fili pino fighting cocks wearing long gaffs. One strike and It Is all over. A dung hill rooster has as much chance in this style of fighting as the best bred chicken. It Is much the same with a pair of fighters like Papke and KetcheL James Howard Britt. who made the ulna bone famous, will soon be back from Paris and will probably be about This will be the last big cleanup of the flat builder if he gets the match, for NeNon will certainly dispose of htm if they met again. Brltt has de clare,! In London that he will return to the ring for one more fight. Kven Packy McKarland's strongest admirers here do not figure that he has a chance with Nelson. The Pane shaped up so wonderf ully with Gans that It looks as though there is no lightweight today who can give him a run over the long route. Now that the Johnson-Burns match t Australia seems to be off again, littrns m:iy be induced to take on Al Kaufman when he returns to America, which will probably be soon. There S no chance of his meeting Squires acain. Kven the Australians are now convinced that their champion has no how with the American. Kaufman Is now In the East taking on all com ers for short bouts. Who do you tliink challenged Burns in Australia? Joe Grim, the Iron man. It Is to lauglu It is hardly possible that Burns would stoop to take this money. ELIGIBILITY HULKS TO STAND vSoTtliwrftt Conference Will Demand Knforcenient in All Case. FEATTLK. Wash.. Oct. S. (Special.) The eligibility rules of the Pacltlc t Northwest intercollegiate conference will be enforced to the letter this year, and men who have changed colleges will not be allowed to take part In . football. Secretary Grinstead called for a mall vote as to the Interpretation of the rules, and as the six colleges could not agree, no changes m-tll tee made and the rules will be enforced to the letter. The question put sy decretary Uria. stead and the results of the vote are as follows: 1. Shall Rule t. rules of eligibility, be Interpreted so as to bar a student from intercollegiate activities during his first year in attendance at an in stitution, who haa been In attendance at another Institution of college rank, where he did not participate in Inter collegiate athletics? Voting yes, 4; voting no, I. 2. Shall Rule t. rules of eligibility, be Interpreted to bar a student from intercollegiate activities, who. having been enrolled In an Institution of col lege rank and having subsequently been out of college for at least one col lege year, enters one of the Institutions of this conference, until he bas been In attendance at such conference institu tion one year? Voting yes, 3: votlnr no, 3. Mr. Grinstead adds: The secretary holds that the Inter pretations suggested in the question amounted to an amendment of the con ference agreement and, therefore, re quire a unanimous consent. For this reason, students who have attended other colleges, regardless of whether they have participated In athletics there or of their having been out of college for one year, are barred our lng their first year of attendance." The division among the colleges Is as follows: Question Question No. L No. University of Idaho... Yes University of Oregon.. Yes Oregon Agr. College... Yes University of W'ash'ton No Wash'ton State College Yes Whitman College No No Yes Yes No No Yes WASHINGTQN ELEVEN LIGHT COACH DOBIE HAS HARD WORK BEFORE HIM. Few Experienced Men In Line Posi tions Team's First Game Id Listless Exhibition. SEATTLE, Wash.. Oct. 3-Opeclal.)- With the first few weeks of the college year past and the season far enough advanced to get a tentative estimate of football material, the prospects at the University of Washington are not bright. Plenty of men are turning out and the coach is first class but the material Is not of the best. Coach Doble has the quantity but not the quality. His men are light and inexperienced. The lack of old men was noticeable in the game last Saturday with the Lincoln High School, the first practice match of the season. The line material is very ordinary. Out side of Captain Tegtmeier, who is already out by reason of injury, there is not a big man trying out for a line position. Jarvis was out for two days, but on the third day his ear was badly torn in a scrimmage and he was ordered not to turn out for three weeks. The season will by that time be too far advanced for him to work to advantage, so he has decided to keep out for the rest of the year. Captain Beck has been playing center in the practice games. He plays hard and Is a fighter and may hold his own with most of his opponents, but he lacks both experience and weight. The other line candidates have never been heard of football players, with the exception of Westover, who played In the back field for the Washington High School last year and Mackay, who was end on the siime team. Both were good men and Westover has a big reputation as a plunging fullback, but both ere light varsity material and It remains to be seen what they can do in the line. The timber for the back field is not bad. Covle. the famous Washington High School quarterback. Is at the pivotal posi tion regularly. He handles the team well but he is deficient on the defensive. There Is little doubt Washington will be s strong behind the line this year as it was last, although both Wand and Murkelstone, the halfbacks, are lighter than Clarke. Trott and Bagshaw, who played In those positions last year. Willes will probably play fullback. Doble must develop a last, gingery team If he Is to make a showing. A heavy, strong team is out of the ques- i tlon. Washington must rely on strategy, tricks and speed. So far this season the team has shown none of these qualities. For years past spectators and critics have complained that the Washington eleven did not have the fight and en thusiasm that are essential to a winning aggregation. Doble Is Just the man to produce those attributes, if his players have It in them, wneiner tney nave or not remains to be seen. At present they have manifested little of It. TWO BIG HOTELS BURN Guests Have Narrow Escapes Loss More Than $150,000. BOSTON. Oct. 1. Two of the largest hotels. Crest Hall and the Ocean View Hotel, and three valuable Summer cot tages were destroyed by fire here early today, with a loss estimated at more than $150,000. Mrs. A. C. Dumont, of Cincinnati, who was a guest at Crest Hall, was reported by the police as missing, and men were waiting at noon for the ruins to cool so that they could be searched. There were nearly 100 guests In the two hotels, and many had narrow escapes. Few persons were able to save anything of their proper- tv. as the hotel buildings were prac tically burned to the ground. The fire started at midnight in the kitchen of the Crest Hall. A strong north wind swept the flames directly down the beach, and only the timely arrival of aid from. Boston, Chelsea and Revere, It is believed, saved a large part of the valuables from destruction by fire. League Soccer Today. Albina Caledonians vs. Crescents, baseball grounds. 3 P. M. 25 cents. Standing (reading from left to ONcil Smith (captain). Cauf field ,,, tii-- - - - -- 1 -t, 4 : ... I-- . f ,I iT'rC&lZ J ! FOOTBALL SQUADS AT UNIVERSITY OF OREGON mar ' - - w - e - vsv. EUGENE. Or Oct, 3. (Special.) The above pictures show the var sity freshman football squads on KIncald Field, University of Oregon. Picture No. 1 Is the varsity squad, as follows: Reading from left to right Back row: Manager McEwen,' Tackey, Harding, McKinley, Mclntyre, Colman, PLAY FIRST GIE Multnomah and Willamette to Meet Saturday. CLUB HAS STRONG SQUAD Although Several Old Stars Will Xot Join Team This Season, Plenty of Xew Material Is at Hand. The Xlrst football game of the season of 1908 in Portland will tie played on the Multnomah Club gridiron next Saturday afternoon between the Willamette Uni versity eleven and the Multnomah Ama teur Athletic Club team. The fact that this will be the initial match of 'the year and that the contesting teams are old rivals, necessarily means that a consider able amount of enthusiasm will be mani fested In the event. The Multnomah Club men have been busy for the past two weeks rounding Into form for the long season In truth - the longest playing season in this country. Manager Martin Pratt, assisted by Cap tain Plowden Stott, has charge of the club's destinies this year and no two bet ter men could be found to do the hard work. Pratt has been the most faithful of all the winged "M" warriors, having played for a dosen years and never In all that time afraid to sacrifice his health or his time to help out the team. Pratt will not play this year. This will be a big loss to the team as he was without an equal In the position of tackle on the Pacific Coast. There is no doubt whatever but Pratt could have made any college team in this country had he desired. Two years ago in the Seattle-Multnomah game In Seattle Pratt received a severe blow on his head and the big manager still ,c rr.fr A? Cwfl ' Ul ,, It 1! I SV i or W .3"? X C .v: JBv.LfW"' Ht'SKT GRIDIRON SQUAD OF WEST SIDE HIGH SCHOOL. right) Alexander (manager). Jordan (coach). Day. Cochrane, Rader, Vail, Levinson. Trtne, Johnson. Latts, Ross, and Gunnell. Knecling-Black. Lewis, Taylor. Gerspach, Patterson. Vosper, Dabney, Ludlam and Arnold. : - - -,tw'lfK . ... -e- r Voigt. Ferry, Weidland, Clark, Sweek, Henderson. Kilpatrick. Olson, Lewis, Coach Forbes, Newton, Arnsplger, La tourette, Trainer Hayward. Third row: Dodson, Ferris, Kestley. Glllis. Hayes, Captain Moullen, Hurd, Walsh, Pink ham. Second row: Hawkins, Downs, Stein. Chandler, Smith, Rlnehart, Baer, I Means. Nell, Woods. First row: Gearhart, Main, Michaels, Stackpole, suffers from the effect of that injury. His physician advised him not to play last year but at the request of Ills brother clubmen, he joined the squad and played the entire year. In the benefit game for the Visiting Nurses' Association, Pratt suffered a broken nose. Now he feels that he has had enough. Another star that -will be missed from the firing line 18 last year's captain, Frank J. Lonergan, who Is now a busy young attorney at Oregon City. Lonergan was one of the most dashing players ever seen in this part of the country and his dar ing end running and broken field per formances will be memories only this year. As successor to Lonergan much is ex pected from Frank Slaker, a former star fullback on the University of Chicago, and later one of Stanford University's crack performers, Slaker, during his col lege days, was considered the best line bucker In the game and received high praise from the football writers. Slaker will be used in the back field either at full or half. "Bud" James, after a year's rest, has returned to the squad and will try out for fullback. James is a splendid kicker and may play a line position and do the punting for the team. Then there is the celebrated Dow Walker, who made such a tremendous hit on the club team last year and has won derful speed for a heavy man. He will be played at a tackle position. Bert Pil klngton. whose work last year was splen did, will also be in the opening games either at guard or tackle. Pilklngton is fast enough for an end or back field posi tion and will be a valuable asset to the squad. Captain Stott will probably play in the backfield in the first match, while Harry Lltt will officiate at quarter. George Carlson, center for the past two years. Is back in bis old position passing the ball with snap and accuracy. There Is a possibility of Jack Latourette, a former star on the University of Ore gon, ooroing out for quarterback. 6hould Latourette Join the team he will be a source of great strength to it. B. D. Townsend, of the University of Minnesota, has not yet reported for practice. Town send is a broad-shouldered young man and is associated with the Government in the Department of Justice in this city. He is an all-round athlete and much is expected of him when he garbs himself in the moleskins. Among the other players who have turned out are Sterling, Rader, Sutler, Nichols, Cronat, and several others. George Alexander, who made a good showing last year at halfback, is out of : . II " i -l V i S lf T b,W I McKenzle, Hallv. Dixon, Sales, Kilts, Hurd, Picture No. 2 Is the freshman squad as follows: From left to right (stand ing): Harding, Main. Hawkins, Mc Kinley, Lackey, Latourette, L. Means, Lewis, Olson, Weidland, Henderson, Newton, Chandler, Assistant Coach Arnsplger. Kneeling: Downs, Stein, Michael, Rlnehart. Airhart, Baer, Sales. the city at present, but will be here later for the big games. The new grandstand on the Multnomah Club grounds is one of the finest of Its kind in this country and Is capable of seating 5000 spectators. It will be a great accommodation for the crowds this year as it will afford each seat holder protec tion from the rain and also a perfect view of the playing field. The field proper has been raised about two feet and Is In splendid condition for the many games that are promised for the season. The following schedule of games has been an nounced by Mr. Pratt and in the list will be noticed the absence of the customary games with the Seattle and the Spokane Clubs, both institutions having abandoned football this year: October 10. Multnomah vs. Willamette October 24. Multnomah vs. Albany Col lege: October 31. Multnomah vs. The Dalles: November 14, Multnomah vs. Whitman; November 21. Oregon Univer sity vs. O. A. C. ; November 26, Multnomah vs. Oregon University: ijecemDer o, iproo able), Multnomah vs. O. A. C. LOSES MIND FROM LOSSES Montenegrin Walks Over Burned Ofl Land to St. Paul. ST. PAUL, Minn., Oct. S. (Special) Lving half buried In a caved-ln sand bank. Vlncenty Gurrldi, a Montenegrin was found under the Westminster-street bridge in St. Paul. He was a victim of the terrible forest fires on the Iron Range and, crazed by the fear of the fire and grieving over His lost farm ana family, had walked all the way from Chlsholm to St. Paul. Gurrldl's feet were literally charred from the hot cinders over which he had walked. His legs were swollen to twice their natural size and his clothes were In rags. Near him were two suitcases and a satchel, containing all that the fire had left him. These he had carried with him all the way on his terrible walk. The man was found by children out playing. They reported the matter to the police, who had him taken to the City Hospital. On reaching that institution the man was pearly dead, but physicians have hopes of his ultimate recovery. The toss or nis home and family evidently preyed on his mind to the extent that he nearly lost hi. reason and he started to walk blindly, and on reaching St. Paul fell exhausted until discovered. He had prooaoiy Jam in the sand for two days. COLLEGE TEAMS PRACTICING HARD Preliminary Work Gives Line on Strength of Various ' 1 Institutions. . ' 0. A. C'S PROSPECTS GOOD Coach Xorcross Begins Work With Seven Veterans and Many Prom ising Recruits Fine Meth ods of Forbes, Coach. BT REFEREE. Football practice is on In earnest at the various Northwest colleges, and by the middle of the present month some idea can be had as to the strength of the various aggregations. Nothing but preliminary practice has been indulged in thus far, but there will be some scrimmage work within the next tew days. The squads at the different insti tutions are larger than ever before, es pecially at Eugene and Corvallis. Here the coaches have their hands full, but theweeding-out process will soon begin and the squads reduced to their normal size. Coach F. S. Norcross has begun his work at O. A. C. under most favorable conditions. He has seven regular men from last year's eleven, besides two or three of the best substitutes and a good list of reserves from the second team. In addition to these the Aggies may have Bennett and Barber, two of last sea son's veterans who have not yet re turned to college, but who are expected back. The Agricultural College seems to have drawn a likely squad of freshmen play ers, some of whom will make places on the varsity. No team In the Paciflc Northwest has a stronger array of vet eran players. Many of the new men are green, but there is enough old ma terial in sight to guarantee a strong eleven. With his seven veterans as a nucleus, Norcross has to develop men for four places an end, a tackle, a guard and a halfback. With the supply of good material at his command this should not prove a difficult task. Good Schedule for O. A. C. The Agricultural College men were se verely criticised last season for playing so few games In the Northwest, and there were many who were unwilling to concede them the championship honors because of their victory over Oregon. This criticism has produced a whole some effect upon the Corvallis manage ment and games have been arranged this year with WTiitman and Washing ton, as well as with several minor teams. The contest with Washington is to oc cur in Seattle on October 31, and the Whitman match is booked for November 14, at Corvallis. From present indica tions Captain Wolff and his followers ought to win both of these games and come with a clean string of victories to their, credit when they line up against Oregon on Multnomah field on Novem ber 21. If Oregon and O. A. C each win their schedule of early games, there will be a record-breaking crowd for the big game here. Oregon Has Few Veterans. Oregon's chances for a clean record are not as good as those of her Corvallis rival, for Oregon will play Idaho on the tatter's home grounds on October 31. Oregon has only a small bunch of vet erans, but the supply of freshman ma terial Is the best in the Northwest this season and there are three or four old reserves from the second team and sub stitute list who are in line for the var sity. The writer witnessed an sifter noon's practice at Eugene a few days ago and was Impressed with the meth ods used by Coach Forbes. No funda mental principle of the game, however small. Is overlooked. No veteran, not even such stars as Clark and Moullen, is given any more consideration than the youngest freshmen. Forbes is building his team "from the ground up." His chances for victory are not as good as those of Coach Norcross, but he has a fighting chance and is working hard to develop his team. It is up to him to make two ends, a tackle, a center and two halfbacks. In Moullen, Plnkham, Clark and Mclntyre he has four good men, and in his list of last season's scrubs there are a few players of var sity strength. Oregon's schedule includes games with Idaho, Washington, Whitworth and "Wil lamette, besides a practice game with an alumni team. All these come before the big game with O. A. C. and the an nual Thanksgiving game with Multno mah. The writer is of the opinion that Oregon will win from Washington, but the matches with O. A. C. and Idaho are in the doubtful column. ' Few Old Men at V. of W. Washington's prospects, which looked so brilliant a month ago, seem to be on the wane. Only three old men Willis, Tegtmeier and Beck are playing this year, and Tegtmeier is out on account of an injury. Practice is going on be hind closed gates, so little Is known about the new men. From present indi cations Washington is booked to get a walloping from all her Northwest rivals, with the possible exception of Whitman. Idaho's prospects for victory are not as good as was first anticipated, notwith standing the fact that Quarterback Rod ney Small has returned to college. Be sides the three veterans lost by gradua tion. Idaho has commenced her season without Jelleck, Perkins and Johnson, who failed to return to college. One or two good reserves also failed to re turn. Of the men who played against Oregon last year, only six are again in the harness. They are Savidge. Small. Stokesberry, Smith. Thornton and Pauls. Middleton. has a hard task cut out for hlsi. but he is a good coach and his rivals will be kept guessing until time is called. Pullman begins her season with a small number of veterans and Coach Rheinschild has expressed himself as dissatisfied with the material on hand. Whitman is also short on old men. A detailed discussion of the prospects of these Inland Empire teams will appear In a subsequent article. FOBBES BUSY Villi SQUAD VARSITY LADS TURX OUT IN NUMBER FOR PRACTICE. Old Players Fast Rounding Into Shape With Daily Work on Oregon Campus. UNIVERSITY OF OREGON, Eugene. Or., Oct. 3. (Special.) Another week of snappy practice finds Captain Moul len and His. husky followers in first class condition and every member of the squad Is anxiously awaiting the real hard work which is to begin soon. The men are rounding out In fine shape, with the exception of one or two bruises sustained during the past week. As to prospects, little can be said at this time. The men are working hard and the large squad of 50 or more, points strongly to a winning aggrega tion when Coach Forbes selects the final eleven. The men deserve great praise this year for the spirit shown in coming out to practice and also to the observance of training rules, and It is predicted that there will be some close rivalry for the coveted positions on the varsity team. Assistant Coach Arnsplger can Just ly be proud of his freshmen squad, which is composed of ex-High School stars and "prep" school players of note. It Is safe to predict that either Michaels or Latourette will make first team quarter, for both men are show ing up splendidly. Several other places on the eleven may be chosen from the freshmen ranks. Manager McEwen is arranging several games for the second team men as a reward for their hard work. Nearly all the old men are In good condition. Clark was out of the game for a day or so. but is playing again. Plnkham Is gradually getting baok into his old form and Glllis. who has been out only a week, is showing up like the rest of the veterans. The other veterans are .Captain Moullen, Mclntyre and Hurd, who played halfback on the varsity In 1905. The first game of the season will be a practice match with the alumni on October 17. Many stars of former years are coming back, and a lively struggle is expected. The season will begin with a double-header, as tho freshmen are scheduled to play the West Portland High School the same afternoon. READS LIFE FROM NOSE Nasology Replaces Palmistry as Means of Fortune-Telling. PARIS, Oct. 3. (Special.) Not palm istry but nasology is the new fortune telling science. An elderly lady has just set up in the Latin Quarter, where she reads your career from your nose. She is doing a flourishing business. The noses are examined by her long; and carefully through a microscope, and she finds better indications in their marks and lumps than ever she found before in the lines of the hands. Hitherto It had been supposed that the nose revealed only habits of Intemper ance by Its hue, and that not Infallibly. But the nasologlst says that that is a grossly Ignorant misconception of an exact science. Treasurer Must Make Good Deficit. SAN FRANCISCO, Oct. 3. State Con troller A. B. Nye has begun legal pro ceedings to collect from City Treasurer John E. McDougald. of San Francisco, the sum of 314,000, part of a special de posit fund of over 337,000, which disap peared from the office of the city treas urer during the past two years and for which everyone connected with its hand ling has disavowed responsibility. City officials making an investigation recently visited former Tax Collector Edward J. Smith, now serving a term in San Quentln for embezzlement, in the hope that he might be willing to explain. The result of their visit has not been made known. A whole freight train passed over a sec tion of track of which a nve-foot section of one rail was miasms at Horse Shoe Curve, on the Pennsylvania line, and not a wheel was derailed. MOTORING In Wet Weather made a pleas use. Use Woodwortb Treads They save your tires and will not skid. See us about them. Rain proof Coats and Caps, Weed Tire Chains. Monoarram Otis. Every thing for the Auto or Bicycle. Dis tributors of Indian Motorcycles, M. & W. and Goodrich Tf res. Ballon SWrignt 86 Sixth Street PORTLAND, OREGON CLAREMONT TAVERN A charming place to spend the evening. All the delicacies of the season, prepared by a chef "who knows how." Excellent lit vice. Reached by a delightful auto ride of seven miles, or. If you prefer, by Astoria trains.