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6 ' THE MORNING OREGONIAN. FRIDAY. OCTOBER 20, 1932 ESIGRKU ITS EFHING OF DEBT Coming of British Commis sion Postponed. MIX-UP HELD POSSIBLE United States Interests in Near East Declared Involved in British Politics. WASHINGTON. D. C, Oct. 19 (Ey the Associated Press.) Fall of the Lloyd George government gripped the attention of official cir cles here today, both governmental and diplomatic, although no direct immediate effect or the change in the British ministry, further than additional delay in the British debt funding negotiations, was expected to be apparent in relations between the United States and Great Britain. The London cabinet crisis is full of possible future complications for all other governments, including the United States, and a clear under standing of what is ahead, it was said, depended very largely on the progress made by Premier-designate Bonar Law in his attempt to form a new cabinet. The immediate result of the crisis, already felt in Washington, is the postponement of the coming to this country of the British debt commis sion, headed by Sir Robert Home, chancellor of the exchequer in the Lloyd George cabinet. Preparations Already Made. Preparations for discussion of the problem of refunding the British war debt to the United States through issuance of long-term Brit ish securities had been mad by the treasury and state departments. It appeared doubtful to officials here today as to when the political sit uation ' in London would be suffi ciently clarified to permit a British commission to be sent. There is little doubt here that ultimately the refunding negotiations will be car ried out practically along the lines already mapped out, although it is admitted that a new cabinet arising after a general election might change British policy as to war debt refunding. Another possible direct element in the situation affecting the United States 'is the status of Ambassador Geddes. In recent-years the British government has selected for certain important diplomatic posts, such as Washington, men of prominence outside their British diplomatic service. Ambassador Geddes is of this group, as was his predecessor, Lord Reading. Near East Interests Cited. Naturally, men specially selected by a government for particular diplomatic posts are more affected by the political vicissitudes of the government which appointed them than would be the diplomats who have made that work their life business regardless of political changes in their own countries., If policies of the London governnient are to be radically changed as a re sult of the crisis, possibly ambassa dors seleeted as was Sir Auckland Geddes may be recalled. The-United States government also has very direct interests in the near eastern situation, which contributed to the cabinet crisis. Through Secretary Hughes the broad pur poses of the Lloyd George policy in the near east establishment of the freedom of the Turkish straits and guarantees of protection for racial and religious minorities in Turkey have been indorsed by the United States government. With the po litical questions which are Involved in determining the method of secur ing those purposes, however, the Washington government has dis claimed all connection. It is evident that the near east ern policy of whatever political combination controls, the British government will be a matter of concern in Washington. This is par ticularly true inasmuch as the rights of Americans in Turkish ter ritory rest in part upon the treaty obligations between Turkey and other governments. Capitulations Are Factors. The United States has, under the capitulations with Turkey, provided for certain immunities and protec tion for American citizens in Tur key. British, French and other capitulation treaties with Turkey are of wider "scope than the Amer ican agreement, however, and Amer ican citizens have enjoyed the same rights as other foreign nations in Turkey, partly as the result of the favored-nation-clause of the American-Turkish treaty, which made previsions that the other capitula tions apply equally to Americans. The American capitulations, in the view of Washington, were not af- fected by the war, as the United States and Turkey were not at war with each other. FRENCH ARE NOT JUBILANT Some Quarters Fear Bonar Law Might Prove Worse. PARIS. Oct. IS (By the Asso ciated Press.) There is no inclina tion on tne part of the French gov ernment to rejoice over the passing of Lloyd George and his cabinet. This was given definite assertion in official quarters. In general the feeling there seemed to be that while Lloyd George was sometimes bad enough in his attitude toward the French position, Andrew Bonar Law might be worse. The foreign office declined to make any statement on the down fall of the Lloyd George govern ment. The change In the British govern ment probably will not delay the near east peace negotiations, it was said here. The chamber of deputies was In session when the news arrived. Im mediately the Excited deputies quit their benches, leaving the orator of the ' moment with hardly a Bingle listener to his discussion of the anti-profiteering bill. The news was received with ex pressions of joy in many quarters, especially among the conservative Two Companies Incorporated. SALEM. Or., Oct. 19. (Special.) Ten thousand dollars is the capital stock of Chalmere & Cartwright, Inc., of Portland, according to ar ticles of incorporated filed with the corporation department here today. Alex J. Chalmers, Vernon A. Cart wright and Karl Herbring are the incorporators. Articles also were filed by the Stayton Foresters' Hall association, capitalized at $4000. The incorporators are W. F. Klecker, A. F. Schindler and Lawrence Pletrok. Headquarters are at Stayton. OUTGOING AND I I I P s -."yp-".wwwmi 1 1 miium iWj,- III r ' msi ft 5 I . V 111 - N v 11 I V u LEFTV-DAV1D LLOYD GEORGE, RIGHT- LLOYD" GEORGE RESIGNS kWHOUS CABINET GOES OUT WITH PREMIER. Bonar Law Is Summoned by King and Requested to Form New Government. (Continued From First Paffe.Y of the unionist party, which for the last few months had furnished the strongest material, for his cabinet. It was- Bonar Law . more than any other man influenced the union ist caucus to secede from the coali tion. He had been a sphinx whom the rank and file of the unionist commoners were waiting to hear. He is a serious and unemotional man with a quiet manner. His opinion that it was more important to keep the party together than to win the next election and that Whether by his own fault or the force of cir cumstances, Mr. Lloyd George has "lost the confidence of the country" decided many votes. There was also a strong feeling in the party that the Chamberlain plan, which gave the party's destinies over to the small faction representing it in par liament was not a falr4device. Newport Election Factor. Tje last straw weighed in the scale was the Newport election, in which a straight unionist candidate won on a platform of opposition to the coalition and all its works, al though the politicians thought the labor party had a safe prospect in that constituency. , Mr. Bonar Law will have Lord Curzon for one of the pillars of his cabinet. Curzon remained away from the caucus today, but sent a letter of protest against the exclu sion of the lords. One result of today's upheaval is a split in the unionist party which makes its fortunes doubtful. A strong group of. the old cabinet unionists remain true to their leader. Mr. Chamberlain, the Karl of Balfour, Lord Birkenhead, Sir Laming Worthington-Evans and Sir SPECTACULAR CAMPAIGNING J3Y LLOYD GEORGE LIKELY People Watching to See Whether and How Ex-Premier Reverts to Old Forensic Style Which Gained Him Name of "Lime Housing." ONDON, Oct. 19. (By the As sociated Press.)Llke Presi dent Roosevelt, David Lloyd George, speaking as prime minister of Great Britain, would gladly af firm "I like my job." This has been the attitude of Mr. Lloyd George when friends told him during the last stages of his seven hard years as head of the govern ment that he was carrying a burden too heavy for any man to bear: this has been the face he has presented to his countrymen throughout the four years of after war reconstruction. His attitude has been that of a man seldom tired and never despondent He was essentially a fighter, who always took the offensive against his en emies -when they thought they had driven him into a corner. , And. throughout all he was taking every thing that came with pure enjoy ment. This was Lloyd George journey ing on the continent from confer ence to conference, always by com mon consent the great figure among the allied statesmen, returning to parliament to face another news paper heralded crisis; casually creating an international incident through photographs of himself teaching M. Briand, the Ix-French-premier, to play golf; leading a song festival among his fellow Welshmen, or gathering non-conformist clergymen around the break fast table in his official residence in Downing street. Buoyancy la Displayed. . i Lloyd George's trait of buoy ancy never was more appealing ly displayed than on his Jour-; ney to Manchester last week. He enjoyed the cheering for him at the railway station his face beamed over it; he welcomed the waving of handkerchiefs by families along the roadside as he motored ir.to Manchester. Most of all, he en joyed his speech. It hardly carried conviction to his auditors when he protested that no one would welcome his retirement more than himself. But the familiar voioe of Lloyd George rang in the fervent passage of his speech: "I cast myself upon the people, because I never have be trayed their cause." To the small au dience it had the effect of the crown of thorns and cross of gold perora t:on whloh brought William Jen nings Bryan the democratic presi dential nomination from & Chicago convention. A friend asked the premier on Monday what he proposed to do. The premier's reply was, "I am waiting to see what the others will do." The others acted today. Whatever programme may result for the pre mier, he tonight gave no sign of embarking upon It as a tired man. On tomorrow night's pilgrimage to Leeds, six addresses from the rear platform of his train have been ar ranged by Lloyd George at various points en route. : It is at carnpalning that Mr. Lloyd George is most effective. If he goes INCOMING PREMIERS OF. GREAT BRITAIN . , Robert Stevenson Home follow Mr. Lloyd George into the wilderness, and many workers in the party ranks are likely to go with them. The precincts oi the solemn gray old Carlton club, which 'has shel tered much hlstory?maklng in its time, afforded the London crowd, which never fails freely to express its sentiments toward notabilities, a distinct scene of excitement. Th,e Earl 'of Balfour, who had only to walk around the corner from his house, was one of the fortunates who- got nothing but cheers. Mr. Chamberlain -was loudly hooted when he appeared, from a feeling that he was not playing the game. if wo or three lesser lights also proved unpopular. Some hot-head loudly and repeatedly cried "Judas!" as BirTtenhead ascended the steps. Club attendants stood on the steps to separate those who had cards of admission from those who tried to force their way in. standing on their rights' as members. There were half a dozen of these belligerents, includ ing Lord Chaplain, one of the oldest unionists and one of the oldest mem bers of the club. Some Enter Lower Floor. Some compromised by entering the lower floor, others retired after exchanging warm remarks with their clubmates among the ticket holders. A meeting of the Caflton club to the slate for the near future. Mr. Lloyd George and Mr. Cham berlain presided, respectively, over meetings of the coalition liberal -and coalition unionist members of the government, dismissing future pol icy. Mr. Lloyd George will make his first speech as "ex-premier" to morrow at Guild ball on the occa sion of London's ' official welcome home to the prince of Wales, but he is expected to reserve his real political manifesto until Saturday's meeting at Leeds. Today's events may be regarded as constituting a great victory for Sir George' Younger, who upset Mr. Lloyd George's plans for a Febru ary election and has now been the cause of his resignation. Mr. Lloyd George will continue to hold his seat of office to carry on current business until the new government is formed,. 1 The part played by the Right Hon. j to the country, as the English pnrase nas it, nis present form promises to show, in the belief of many persons, In a spectacular ef fort approaching Gladstone's won derful Midlothian campaign." So many years have passed since the retiring premier rolled up hjs sleeves and went on the stump as a candidate for office that the peo ple will watch to see whether and how far he reverts to his old foren sic style, which gained him the name of lime-housing.'' Most of the premiers of Great Britain have been aristocrats, and however sharp the clash of political arms, they have kept scrupulously within the rules of their caste. Lloyd George prides himself on be ing a man of the people, and never was he more so than when playing the part of the politician and ap pealing for votes. In his speech at Lime House, in the east end of London, Mr. Lloyd George's platform was to rob the hen roosts of the dukes of taxation; and he made the drawing rooms of the west end gasp by describing a prominent nobleman as "the last of the litter." Coarse Still in Donbt. Even tonight it cannot be said whether Mr. Lloyd 3eorge goes to Leeds tomorrow - in his old liberal garments or as an independent pro posing to form his own new party, like Roosevelfs progressives. One of the strongest cries of some of the old radical followers, and par ticularly the labor party, aimed against him Is that heailed to ful fill his reconstruction pledges so glowingly pictured, to make Great Britain a land fit for heroes to live In. The cry of "consistency" never has seemed to frighten Lloyd George from treading his own path. That waa sen in his dealings with Ireland, which many liberals think history will write as the -greatest of his after-war works. He turned quickly from the iron hand of co ercion, which had failed, to recon ciliation and. more remarkable, was able to bring the majority of his unionist supporters with him. His friends now say he clearly saw that either course meant much suffer ing to some section of Ireland's peo pie; that he knew that under a free state, or in making a free state, unionist residents would suffet. He weighed the cost and persuaded his cabinet or most of its members that the result was worth the price to be paid, even though paid by the minority who &lways had been loyal to Great Britain. On what platform Mr. Lloyd George will stand at Leeds is a puzzling and weighty question. Much water has flowed under the. bridge between the radicalism of Lime House and the Leeds of this sober ing day. Even if worse comes to worse, his friends Say Lloyd George will be able to write his book with reflection and in leisure. - Photos by Underwood. -SIR ANDREW BONAR LAW. Stanley Baldwin at -the Carlton club meeting has brought his name into prominence, and it is thought h may be chancellor of the exchequer in the new -conservative ministry, lie has been president of the board of trade and parliamentary private secretary to Mr. Bonar Law. : A point of considerable'interest in the new situation is the fate of the Irish constitution In the British par liament. It Is not yet known whether Mr. Bonar Law In the event of suc ceeding In forming a conservative ministry, will decide upon an imme diate appeal to the country, or whether he will attempt to carry on the government and pass needful Irish legislation. If he adopts the latter plan there will be no difficulty in getting the Irish constitution ratified, for, al though the "die hards" who are mainly responsible for today's de velopments, are strongly against the coalition's Irish policy, it is said they will not attempt to disturb the settlement already made under the treaty. Mrs. Lloyd George, addressing a political meeting in London tonight, said her husband's health and spirits both- improve when he is engaged in a fight it is like a tonic to him. "I am always pleased when there is a fight going on," she declared, "because he gives me far less trouble." Thirteen unionist members of the late government, including Mr. Chamberlain, Lord Birkenhead, the Earl of Balfour, Sir Robert Home. Sir Laming Worthington-Evans and Lord Lee, sent a manifesto to the press tonight paying tribute to Lloyd George's invaluable services to the country and protesting against the decision of the Carlton club. as unwise and ungrateful to Mr. Lloyd George. They declare they will refuse to carry such a message to the prime minister. The election machinery, is ready the moment the signal is given for an appeal to the country. The new house of commons will be the smallest since the act of union be tween Great Britain and Ireland, aa the setting up of the two parlia ments in Ireland withdraws xr gn representation from Westminster. The present house of commons con sists of 707 members, but the new parliament will have only 615 mem bers. UNIONIST SUPPORT NEEDED Decision on Premiership Must - -, Wait, Says Bonar Law. LONDON, Oct. 19. (By the Asso ciated Press.) A court circular is sued tonight, in announcing the res ignation of the prime minster said "The Honorable Mr. Lloyd George was ' received in audience " by his majesty and tendered his resigna tion as prime minister and first lord of the treasury, which the king was graciously pleased to accept. The Right Honorable Mr. Bonar Law was received in audience by his majesty this evening." . Mr. Bonar Law explained to the king that he was not in a position to accept the invitation to form a cabinet as at the moment the con servative party was without an' of ficial -or recognized leader. It would be necessary, he said, to summon a meeting of the unionists of both the house of lords and house of com mons to accept his (Bonar Law's) policy and elect him leader of the unionist party before he could un dertake the responsibility of form ing a conservative ministry. It is understood this meeting will be held either on Sunday or Monday next. After seeing the king. Mr. Bonar Law consulted his supporters not ably Lord Derby and Sir George Younger. Although the adherence of Lord Balfour, Lord Birkenhead and other unionists to Mr. Lloyd George will make Bonar Law's task of forming a ministry somewhat difficult, he has ample material at nand to form aTabinet in-wjiih-the principal members ar.e "expected to be Lord Derby, Stanley Baldwin, Sir Arthur Grifflth-Boscawen,' Viscount Fltzalan, the earl of Selborne, Vis count Peel, the marquis of Salis bury. Lieutenant-Colonel Leslie Wil son, Sir William Joynson-Hicks and Sir Phillip Lloyd-Greame. 0 ATS Fashion Note Lanpher hats will be worn this fall by well dressed men 9 BONAR LAW SCOUTS LABOR ASGEWSID Danger of Unions Gaining Control Minimized. OWN PARTY IS SAVED Unity Is Declared Slore Import ant Than Winning Next Election; Split Avoided. LONDON. Oct, 19. (By the Asso ciated Press.) The representatives of the conservative party who met in the Carlton club today at the call of Austen Chamberlain, declined to support Mr. Chamberlain in his ad herence to the coalition government and voted 186 to 87 to appeal to the country as an independent party with' its own leader and its own programme. In consequence the coalition gov ernment fell today. Lord .Curzon did not attend the meeting, but sent a letter of apology to Mr. Chamberlain, ex plaining that owing to the protests he had received from members of the house of lords at their exclu sion from the meeting and against his participation In a meeting from which they had been excluded, he thought it advisable to abstain. Criticism la Pointed Out. Mr. Chamberlain in his speech de clared that no government could be conducted with credit to Itself while it' was being constantly subjected to adverse criticism from the ranks of its own supporters. The govern ment, therefore, had arrived at the conclusion that it would be impos sible to continue as at present and that the time had arrived to appeal to tne country ror a fresh mandate. and, he added:,;- "I desire to ask you to consider : under what conditions that appeal is to be made." Mr. Chamberlain then repeated his B'rmingham contention that the issue would not be between the lib erals and the conservatives, but be tween those standing for individual freedom and those standing for so cialization of the state, between those standing for free industry and those standing for nationalization. with all its controls and inefficien cies. He argued that in the face of this danger it was not the time to break with old friends and scatter forces which could be united in de fense of a cause common to all. Union With Labor Opposed. He declared that as a result of his Inquiry and his conviction that un less hearty co-operation of the pres ent allies could be secured it would be impossible to obtain an effective working majority and form a strong government, and that the only al ternative to that close co-opefation would be a coalition, including the labor party, to which "we stand resolutely opposed." He asserted he would not be a party to any half-hearted co-operation or to : terminating the alliance with the liberals; neither would he accept any appeal to any other tribunal. (By this Mr. Chamberlain was understood to refer to the unionist association's emergency conference). Stanley Baldwin, president of the board of trade, entered a strd'ajr plea against further continuance of the coalition. Mr. Lloyd George, he said, had been described as a "live wire," or in the lord chancellories' more stately language as a "dynamic force." Dynamic Force Terrible. "I accept that description," he added, "but it is from that very fact that our troubles arise. A dynamic force is -' a terrible thing; it may crush you, but It is not necessarily right. It is owing to that dynamic force that Mr. Lloyd George former ly smashed the Liberal party and it 1 my firm conviction . that In time the same thing will happen to our party." Mr. Bonar Law suggested that Mr. Chamberlain should allow them to submit their decision to the whole party and declared that unless this course was adopted a split in the party was unavoidable. "It Is more Important to keep our party united than to win the next election!" he exclaimed. Mr. Bonar Law thought there was no danger of a labpr government coming in and asserted that in any case ; continuance of the coalition would help the labor party forward. Throughout his association with Mr. "Lloyd George he had always made it clear that he might find it neces sary to terminate the coalition. He was sure it would not break Mr. Lloyd George's heart if the Unionist party were broken, and the party would Inevitably be broken if Mr. Chamberlain's advice were followed how. "If we go to the country as a Look Behind It Those who know from ex perience with the product behind this name and trade mark, look upon it with the pride and satisfaction in spired by a member of the family who has fulfilled fondest expectations. Made in every variety or combination thereof for any fueL For list of authorized deal ers, use the Coupon. Phone Broadway 4115 or see complete display at ISHERWOOD STOVE COMPANY Sole Distributors, : 14th and Glisan, Portland. -COUPON- Isherwood Store Co., 14th and Glisan Sts., Portland,. Oregon. Would like to know who sells- CHARTER OAK in this section. - Name Address , . NOTE Mention desired. kind united party, we have a good chance of winning," he declared. "Whether by his own fault or by force of cir cumstances Mr. Lloyd George has lost the confidence of the ccAintry." Mr. Bonar Law expressed the be lief tjiat the many labor successes in bye-elections had been due to the fact that- labor was the only alterna tive to coalition, as everybody dis gruntled with the coalition had voted for labor. There was danger that continuance of that position would bring in a labor government some day. In his analysis Mr. Bonar .Law insisted upon the importance before all else of maintaining unity of the conservative party. Split Held Unavoidable. Lord Balfour, speaking In favor of the coalition, argued that instead of Mr. Lloyd George's "dynamic force" influencing Conservative policy, the fact was that wherever there had been a profound modification of views, that modification had taken place on the part of the premier much more than on the part of his Conservative colleagues. In his opinion the idea that co-operation with the Liberals was destroying the Conservative party was quite illusory. He believed it would be impossible to get back to a two party system without splitting the Conservative party and was there fore urging the meeting to support Mr. Chamberlain. One of the surprises of the meet ing was the stiong stand taken by Leslie Wilson, chief Unionist whip, against the coalition. Before the vote was taken, and In reply to a number of questions, Mr. Chamberlain explained that support of the resolution would mean that in the event of the Conservatives winning at the elections, as an in dependent party, there would be a Conservative cabinet and a Conser vative premier. (This would exclude Mr. Lloyd George from the premier ship, should the Conservatives win, unless he withdrew from the Lib erals completely and became a whole-hearted Conservative). Many Witnesses Summoned. . ' ROSEBURG, Or, Oct. 19. (Spe cial.) 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