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PORTLAND, OREGON. WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 3, 1915.
PRICE FIVE CENTS.
VOL. LIV. XO. 16,909.
SECRET PLAN MADE
TO SAVE SHIP BILL
Revision Discussed to
SITUATION IS COMPLICATED
Advocates Confer and Hold Out
Hope of Success.
P01NDEXTER MAKES DEAL
'Washington Senator Heeds Wlilte
House Intimation and Promises
to Support Amended Bill to
Save W. II. Parry.
WASHINGTON. Feb. 2. A plan which
they guarded with the utmost secrecy
was adopted by Administration Demo
crats of the Senate in caucus today to
break down opposition to the Govern
ment ship purchase bill.
The programme Includes parliamen
tary maneuvers which will be started
tomorrow in the Senate, and, accord
ins to leaders of the party, is calculated
to bring support for the measure to off
set the Democratic revolt last Monday.
Kffect of Publicity Feared.
After reaching an agreement the cau
cus adopted a resolution pledging every
member to secrecy. Senator Kern,
ihairman of the caucus, announced that
secrecy was necessary for the obvious
reason that to make the plan public
might man Its frustration.
Jt was reported later that included
in the plan was an agreement to amend
Hie bill to conform with some sugges
tions that have been made from various
iourci-s within the last few strenuous
'We will get into the bill in the Sen
ate again today," said Senator Kern.
"That positively is all that can be said.
The opposition did not confide to us
what they intended to do last Monday.
For the same reason we cannot divulge
Senator Defines Hope.
"Does the plan contemplate winning
votes for the bill?"
"We expect to hold all the votes that
we had for the bill," said Senator Kern.
- "Do yon mean that 42 votes which
stood fast Monday afternoon?"
"That wouldn't bo enough," Senator
"Is there hope for the bill?" the Sen
ator was asked.
"Hope, defined," the Senator replied,
"is a combination of expectancy and
Ajnend meats Are Suggested.
One plan suggested following the
conference was that an effort might
be made to amend Senator Clarke's mo
tion to recommit the bill by adding In
structions to the commerce committee
to return it to the Senate at once with
These amendments are said to be on
lines to safeguard neutrality with re
gard to the purchase of belligerent
ships and the length of time In which
the Government would engage in ocean
transportation business. (
Various Conferences Held.
President Wilson cenferred in the
course of the day with Progressive Re
publican Senators, the Democratic ma
jority considered methods of procedure
to regain lost ground, and the seven
recalcitrant Democrats conferred among
themselves with the avowed purpose of
As a result of this complicated situ
ation the Democratic conference ap
pointed a special committee Senators
Fletcher, Simmons and Martin to con
duct negotiations with a view to as
' certalning what support could be
gained for the bill and on what points
of revision. This special committee
was prepared to report progress at the
second caucus tonight and the mem
bers held out hopes to their colleagues
that ultimate success would be theirs.
Itevolters Maintain Position.
Revolting Democrats, Senators Bank
head. Clarke, Camtlen, Hardwick,
Hitchcock. OGorman and Vardaman,
were approached by the caucus com
mittee several times in the cuurse of
the day and asked for a stipulation of
utdis on which they might reconsider
tiicir attitude. With a reservation that
it might first be wise to recommit the
bill, the committee was told there
would be no change in the revolters'
attitude toward the measure unless
it was stripped of Government owner
ship features, with a provision that It
be understood to be an emergency un
dertaking with positive limitations.
One suggestion . offered was that
provision be made for the Government
to retire from the proposed operation
of ships after two years. Another
stipulation was said to be that the
Government should purchase or acquire
none of the ships of belligerent na
tions. Two Proposals Clash.
Insofar as prohibition of purchase
of foreign ships now laid up in this
country is concerned, such a stipulation
also was proposed by some of the pro
gressive Republican Senators. They,
however, do not favor the Government
shipping corporation as a temporary
measure and suggested amendments
whereby it would be instituted as a
permanent venture. Here the proposals
of progressive Republicans and revolt
ing Democrats clashed.
After Senator Norris and Senator
Kenyon had talked with President Wil
son, it was understood the President
had looked with favor on some amend
(Concluded on race .)
SERBIA IS SOON TO
BE INVADED AGAIN
GREAT AISTRO-GERJUS FORCE
IS MASSED OX RAXUBE.
High Water Delays Entrance and
General Staff of Little Nation
Is' Confident of Success.
PARIS Feb. 2. A dispatch from
Nish, Serbia, to the Balkan News
"Confirmation has been received of
the report that It Is the Intention of a
srreat Austro-German army, under com
maud of Archduks Eugene, of Austria,
to attempt a third Invasion of Serbian
territory. These troops have been ac
tually concentrated along a line ex
i.ndinr fi-nm Tskla. to Schifka. on the
Danube River. Schifka is the junction
point of the Hungarian, Koumanmu uu
Serbian frontiers. The attack has been
delayed by the rising of the Danube
and the Save.
"Tb. Serbian general staff Is fully
confident that the issue will be favor
able to Serbian arms, as the troops,
and materially, are de
clared to be In excellent condition.
TOO MUCH FLAG ISEXCUSE
"Stars and Stripes" Keep Out Hiftf
Films Barred" by British Columbia.
VICTORIA. B. C, Feb. 2. (Special.)
Of the 7500 reels of moving pictures
which "have' been barred from Britisn
Columbia in the last 12 months 50.5 per
cent have been "scratched because tne
use of the "Stars and Stripes" was con
sidered excessive. "Not that we have
any objection to the flag of the United
States," explained1 C. L. Gordon, the of
"The trouble is that the majority oi
the 'movies' are made on the other side
of the border and particularly for the
Deoole of that country. 'Old Glory, o
course, Is used to the exclusion of all
other National emblems." Films "slan
dering the allies in the war" were re
jected to the number of 5.5, while Is
reels were turned back on tne score
that they were anti-British.,
MUCH FOOD, SAYS GERMAN
Berlin Statistician Denies Country
Can Be "Starved Out."
BERLIN, Feb. 2. (By wireless to
Sayville, N. T.) A statistician on the
Berllnger Tageblatt has adduced figures
to show Germany is in little danger of
being starved out in the present war.
As a r suit of the new German bread
and flour regulation, the compiler points
out, less than 4,000,000 tons of rye and
wheat will be required for bread up to
the middle of August.
Last year's harvest, he says, amounted
to 14,500,000 tons, of which 1,500.000
tons were deducted for seed. ThlB
leaves 13,000,000 tons at the beginning
of the war, not including the grain on
hand from the 1913 harvest.
JURY ACTS IN 20 MINUTES
Two, Extradited From California,
Convicted or Embezzlement.
An example of swift administration
of Justice was enacted in Circuit Judge
Davis' courtroom yesterday when Mr.
and Mrs. F. L. Green were convicted of
embezzlement after the jury had been
out 20 minutes. The jury recommended
that the court show leniency.
The Greens are alleged to have em
bezzled J200 from W. P. Slnnott on Jan
uary 11. They were indicted January
18, extradited from Oakland, Cal., and
returned here January 24, arraigned
and pleaded not guilty January 25, con
victed February 2 and will be sentenced
PLAN OF POPE PROGRESSES
Britain, Germany and Austria Will
Exchange Civil Prisoners.
ROME, Feb. 2. According to reports
in circulation at the Vatican. Great
Britain, Germany and Austria have
answered favorably Pope Benedict's
proposal for an exchange of cfYil pris
oners women and children and men
above the age of 55.
When all the answers to the Tope's
proposal have been received from the
heads of the belligerent nations they
will be published in the Osservatore
Romano, the official organ of the Vat
ican. TRANSFER CHANGE OUSTED
Traction Company Heeds Appeals to
Restore Old System.
Many East Side residents requesting
that the former transfer system be re
stored. General Manager Hild. of the
Portland Railway. Light & Power Com
pany, announced yesterday that the old
arrangement, In effect before the De
cember change, wiU be resumed.
The old system will be put into effect
at once, that East Side passengers may
transfer to the West Side of the river
to reach various city points.
33-YEAR-OLD DEBT PAID
In ion Pacific Receives 813 Con
science Fund Dne Since '82.
A conscience-stricken person sent $15
to the Seattle office of the Union Pacific
Railroad, and the fund has been for
warded to the Portland headquarters.
Bills amounting to 315 were pinned to
the following note:
"U. P. R. R. Co. I have been in your
dept this amount since 1882."
No explanation whatever is given as
to how the company was defrauded,
and the Identity of the remitter remain3
Belgian and Cfftluu
Foundation Is Assailed
Business Man Said to Impose
Silence on Philanthropist.
"MOTHER" JONES IS THERE
Woman Strike Leader Asserts Her
Right to Arm Herself to Defend
"Home and Relatives" "Call
to Arms" Defended.
NEW YORK, Feb. 2. Jerome E.
Green, secretary of the Rockefeller
Foundation and formerly member of
the personal staff of John D.Rocke
feller. Sr.; Edward P. Costigan, of
counsel for the United Mine Workers
of Americti, and Frederick H. Goff,
president of the Cleveland Trust Com
pany, and head of the Cleveland Foun
dation, testified today at the hearing
of the Federal Commission on Indus
trial Relations' into the philanthropic
foundations of tho United States and
the cause for Industrial unrest.
Mr. Green outlined some of jhe work
done by the various Rockefeller or
ganizations and presented a chart,
which the Commissioners had re
quested from John D. Rockefeller, Jr.,
showing how the- directors of the dif
ferent boards and the foundations
were Interlocked. .
John D.'s High Purpose Proclaimed.
He denied that the foundation con
stituted a menace to the public and
said Mr. Rockefeller. Sr., had the
highest purposes in mind when he fur
nished the money when made possible
the philanthropic and scientific organi
sations bearing his name.
Mr. Costigan vigorously assailed the
Rockefeller Foundation and John D.
Rockefeller, Jr.. He. read a statement
which closely followed the line read
last week by John R. Lawson, mem
ber of ths executive board of the
United Mine Workers of America,
"Mr. Rockefeller, who appears to the
world in the relief afforded Belgium as
a liberal benefactor," said Mr. Costi
gan, "stands convicted before the
w-orkers of Colorado as a narrowly
biased and vislonless money-maker.
"In a great human crisis precipitated
within the very household, industrially
speaking, of Mr. Rockefeller, his foun
dation has been heedless or impotent.
And the conclusion forced on an un
prejudiced public has been and Is that
Mr Rockefeller, the business man, has
cold-heartedly and without hesitation
brushed aside and imposed silence upon
Mr. Rockefeller, the philanthropist."
"Mother Jones." who was in the
audience. Interrupted the hearing for
a moment while Mr. Costigan was be
ing questioned as to whether the so
(Concluded on rase 2.)
INDEX OF TODAY'S NEWS
The Weather. .
YESTERDAY'S Maximum temperature.
4ti-0 degrees; minimum, 39.6 degrees.
TODAY'S Kain; southerly winds.
H;& masses bill to amend workmen's cora-
SlO "ion act. Page .
. -ofimgton Mouse passes diu iskius couu"
' . or three boards from Governor. Page 7.
Legislative committees -favor 24 quarts of
beer Instead of IS as limit In dry act.
Page 6. . .
Ronald G. Callvert says groundhog sees
shadow on amended workmen's compensa
tion act. , Pase 1.
Food cargoes for Gernisny and Austria to
be considered contraband, fage .
Slight gain in Poland costs Germans thous
ands or men. rise
Serbia is to be Invaded by great Austro-
German force. Page 1.
Artillery duels on western front redoubled
in intensity. Page a.
W. H. Hornibrook, Albany editor, nominated
for Minister to Slam. Page 4.
Hobson bill, fixing standard of shells, is op
posed by Naval Board. Page 2.
Democrats decide on secret plan in effort to
revive snip purchase bill, rage i. .
Witness says John D. Rockefeller, business
man. Imposes .silence as phuantbropisi.
Page 1. -Ex-Governor
Tates, of Illinois, named
correspondent In divorce suit. Page 3.
One of worst storms of Winter Is raging in
Middle West and Northeast, ragis l.
Just award in wage controversy is compli
cated task. Page 4. .
Portland Basketball League championship
goes to Wecnas. Page 12.
Beavers' famous infield may pass if Derrick
Js promoted to St. Louis Browns. Page 1-.
Multnomah hockey team wins city amateur
championship. Page U.
Weather report, data and forecast. Page 17.
Commercial and Marine.
Local wheat prices make greatest advance
since war began, page 27.
Flurry In Chicago wheat pit, with excited
buying. Page 17.
Strong; Wall-street market for stocks and
bonds. Page 17.
Bar pilotage rates . of Puget Sound Tugboat
Company will not . be lowered. Page 14.
Portland and Vicinity.
Regulation of jitneys by city is certain.
Festival city beautiful - committee begins
cleanup campaign tonight. Page 11.
Miss May Hoffman, at election inquiry, re
lates conduct of mysterious watcher.
Mr. Daly calls efficiency system failure in
becking repeal. Page 17.
C. C. CoTt, president, outlines progressive
programme lor Commercial Club. Page 14,
BERLIN BAKERIES GUARDED
Council Names 12,000 Constables to
- Prevent Irregularities.
AMSTERDAM. Feb. 2, via 'London.
The Berliner Tageblatt in an issue
which has reached here declares that
the Council of Great Berlin has ap
pointed 12,300 special constables to
guard the bukeshops of the city against
any irregularities on the part of the
ROME, Feb. 2. Demonstration over
the high price of bread continued at
various places, especially in Sardinia.
At Sassarl capital of the Province of
Sassari, Sardinia, rioters broke into a
bake shop. Troops were called out and
dispersed the demonstrators.
BIG SHIPS PASS CANAL
Great Northern and Kroonland Use
Channel Through Slide.
PANAMA, Feb. 2. The new Northern
Pacific steamship Great Northern and
the American line steamer Kroonland,
the two largest passenger boats yet
t use the Panama Canal, passed
through the waterway today, both
making fast time.
The trip was without special inci
dent. The ships used the new channel,
which has been dredged through the
ide at Cucaracha.
A WRECK AND A MUTINY.
STORM RAGES OVER
Railway, and Wire Serv
ices Are Tied Up.
ONE CITY SUSPENDS BUSINESS
Snow Blown by Gale Resem
bles Blizzard in New York.
TEMPERATURE IS FALLING
Middle West. Northern and New
Encland States Are Swept by One
of Worst Disturbances of Win
ter Early End Forecast.
CHICAGO. Feb. 2. One of the worst
storms of the Winter Is general from
the Middle West to the Middle Atlanttc
states. New England and throughou
Rain, sleet, snow and wind have all
contributed to the disruption of rail
way traffic, the hampering of wire
communication, and, In some sections.
to the raisinz of rivers to the flood
point, with considerable damage result
Railroads Are Sufferers.
The weather man, however, holds out
hope of speedy relief in the prediction
that the storm probably will pass off
the New England Coast Wednesday into
the Atlanttc, leaving generally fai
weather In its wake.
Railway traffic in the Northern
states either has been almost suspended
or greatly retarded.
In the Middle West, many telephone
and telegraph wires have been carrief!
down by the sleet and ice, and a fall
in temperature is causing additional
trouble. The Increasing cold has con
traded the lines and large numbers of
wires are breaking.
One City Suspends Business.
Northern and Western New York and
New F.ngland have, been hit hard by- a
snowstorm which almost reached the
proportions of a blizzard. Traffic of
all kinds has suffered severely, tne
electric lines being the hardest hit.
Ogdensburg, N. v., reports that busl
ness there has been almost entirely
suspended as a result of the northerly
gate and drifting snows.
Sleet and snow borne into the section
about Rochester by a Ju-mlle north
easter caused one of the worst tie-ups
in the history of Interurban traffic
with that city.
Massachusetts and Connecticut points
reported similar tying-up of traffic on
electric lines by the snowstorm.
Communication Is Restored.
Wire communication was restored to
all sections of the West, although in
manv instances the telegraph com
panics had to resort to expensive indi
Througli Western Missouri, Kansas
and Southern Nebraska, it was snow
ing heavily tonight and the mercury
was falling rapidly.
Tuesday's War Moves
TJRING the last few days the Ger
mans have been making desperate
efforts to break the deadlock which has
existed for so long on both the eastern
and western fronts.
They have delivered a series of at
tacks, always preceded by artillery ac
tivity, on the allied lines In Flanders
and France, and while In almost every
case they have thus won a preliminary
advantage, before the fighting was con
cluded the French, British or Belgians
have been able to regain the trenches
temporarily lost, and In some cases to
occupy the German positions.
In these attacks, according to reports
of the British and French general staffs.
the Germans have suffered severe losses,
The German artillery has been sub
Jectlng the Belgian positions In Flan
ders to a severe bombardment, which
suggests that the moment has arrived
for another effort to get across the
Tser, and thence to the French coast
ports. In return the French have bom
barded the railway station at Noyon,
one of the German military centers
behind the advanced lines.
More serious attacks, however, have
been made against the Russian lines
Central Poland. Faced by flanking
movements, both north and south. Field
Marshal von Hindenburg made a des
perate effort, which apparently is to be
renewed, to break through to Warsaw,
and thus not only gain a great military
and political advantage for Germany,
but at the same time release the pres
sure on Hungary and East Prussia, in
each of which regions the Russian
troops are slowly pushing forward.
The fighting to the west and south
west of the Polish capital has been of
a most desperate character, and the
Germans were at first successful, but
the Russian official report declares that
the Russians, by a counter-attack, re
gained most of the lost ground.. The
report adds that the German losses
i he German official account simply
says of tho lighting there:' "We are
maKing progress. '
A ticrmnn submarine was still at
large In the English Channel jester
day and the French officially report
an attempt to torpedo the British hos
pitul ship Asturlas. The German sub
marine U-21, which recently sank three
steamers In the Irish Sea, has not been
seen since Sunday and it Is presumed
that she has withdrawn. Traffic In
those water, however, continues to be
somewhat restricted, shipowners pre
ferring for the present to keep In port
all but the fast steamers, which, it Is
believed, can elude tho submarines.
The Germans, flushed with their sue
cess, have issued a warning that an
attempt will bo made to sink British
transports and advise neutral shipping
to keep away from the north ami west
coasts of France.
Reports reaching Holl.-.ml uy that
the new bread regulations in Germany
have caused so much unrest that 12,-
000 special constables have been np
pointed to guard the bakeries in Berlin.
It is also said that following the action
of the government In commandeering
cereals, tho military authorities are
confiscating all utensils containing
metals useful for their purposes. It l
recognized that these are precaution
ary measures and are not due to any
Copenhagen newspapers, some of
which still have correspondents at Con
stantinople, have a report that tho
Anglo-French fleet has destroyed four
of the Dardanelles forts and that there
Is a panic in the Turkish capital.
where the defeats suffered by the
Turkish armies In the Caucasus and in
Azerbaijan are just becoming known.
With the opening of the British
Parliament yesterday the political truce
was renewed. The government, while
assuming all responsibility for the war,
welcomed the opposition's support and
the ministers announced that they
would reply readily to all criticism and
endeavor to avoid controversial mat
ters. An indication of possible action by
Italy is to be found ill a notification is.
sued to Italian reservists in England
to prepare to Join the colors.
BAKER THAW SHUTS MAINS
Water Pipes Continue to Freeie De
spite Heavy Rains.
BAKER, Or.. Feb. 2. (Special.)
Despite a heavy thaw which has ruled
for the last three days, with pouring
rain for the last 24 hours, water pipes
are freezing in the city faster than the
city water department can thaw them
with an electrical apparatus.
Several water service mains which
had not frozen in the below-iero tem
peratures froze last night wtlh the
minimum temperature 33 above aero.
Freezing pools of water under hard
surface streets last night caused the
paving to burst.
CUPID IN BAKER IS LOSING
January Marriages Show No In
crease over 1914; Divorces Fewer.
BAKER, Or.. Feb. 2. (Special.) The
January business of Cupid In Baker U
showing a gradual decline. There were
only 12 marriage licenses Issued last
month, the same number as In January,
914, while in the year before that there
were 19 and .in January, i?, liters
were 1C. The average a month is about
Divorces granted also showed a do-
cllne. There were only four granted
last month and in January. 1914, there
Emplojmnet In Uerlin Increases.
BERLIN, by Wireless to Sayville,
N. Y Reports of the Municipal In
surance offices of Greater Berlin show
the number of persons employed In the
German capital In the week of Janu
ary 16-23 rose by 6785. an Increase
of .64 per cent.
RAD FOR WORKMEN
Shadow on Compensa
tion Act Scares.
CHANGES PATCH LAW BADLY
More Classifications Replace
Present Two-Rate Plan. .
COST TO STATE INCREASED
More Accidents Likely to He lU-sult.
I'pper House May Differ Senate
Committee Approves Antl
Fcrris Bill Resolution.
BY RONALD O. CALLVEKT.
STATE CAPITOL. Salem, Or., Feb. t.
(Staff Correspondence.) Tho partic
ular groundhog that guides the desti
nies of workmen's compensation came
out of his hole today, haw his .hedow
and went back in anticipation of con
tinued wintry weather. Perhaps the
groundhog will be reversed by subse
quent procedure, but If tho action In
the House today turns out to be con.
elusive tho existing unsatisfactory lsw
will have been simply patched, and
patched at that In a way that does nut
cover all Its holes.
Payment Made Greater.
The amendments adopted by tle
House are designed, I take it. chiefly
to save the. state Industrlnl linuram-e
fund from bankruptcy. Instead of the
two rales and two classifications of
risks that are possible under the exist
ing law the amendments provido for a
number of classifications. Thus are
some industries that desire to come
under the law to be required to pay
more than they do now. The employe s
contribution Is r.-durcl (o a flat 1 cent
a day. Tlie present law tae him one
half of 1 per cent on hln wages. As It
Is now the workman who receive $'
per month payu about I cent dsy.
while, tho one ho receives 1100 a
month pays about 2 cents Tho amend,
menu would put all on the same bailn.
Tost lu Mate to Increase.
Meanwhile the Mate's rnntrlbut'on,
amounting to one-el(thlh of the total
or one-seventh of the combined con
tributions of employers and employe",
remains the- same. Tlierrfore If the
amended law should prove mote pop
ular than tho old and bring In mors
employers and emrloye the cost to thj
state would Increase correspondingly.
One Important amendment elimi
nates the privilege granted an' Injured
rmnloyo to sue for damages under the
liability lsw If his emplocr has failed
to maintain any safety device requlrs-i
by statute. This provision In the old
law worked In two ways. w nno u
caused some of the more apprehensive
employers to Insure both In the stale
fund and with the liability companies
snd thereby pay double Insurance, it
Induced them alxo to lake particular
pains to Install safely devices.
More Ar.-ldr.la May rolls".
The House's amended law merely
Charges tho Industrial Accioent com
mission to roport doinmui ncy in in
stalling safety devices to the prosecut
ing attorney. Tho Iabor Commissioner
is supposed to do that now.
The obvious effect of this ainenamr nl
will be to let those employers who hv
been paying double off lth a lighter
Insurance cost and to Increase tho num
ber of accidents. However, the rKinn
seemed to please the labor Interests.
The sad part of all tho discussion or
compensation law at this session Is that
no Interested element seems to give dun
-.ihi n nreventive messures. The
very thought of letting private enter
prise compete Kith the stste In com
pensation Insurance Is so repugnant
that loss of life or limb does not
weigh against it.
Arrldeat Tre-ientlsn Weak.
Admission of the private companies
to the business would mean that tho
state would have to compete on a merit -rating
system. The employer who hsd
closed every possible avenue for acci
dents would get a lower Insurance rale,
and mort employers would attempt dili
gently to prevent accidents. That Is the
history of sueh laws In other states. 11
Is not the history of the laws In st.tcs
where no attention Is paid to the prin
ciple of safety first. The Oregon law
Is now weak as to accident prevention.
The amendments make It worse.
The Senate may take a different view
of the situation. Senator Bingham's
bill Is pending there. It would super
sede the Oregon state monopoly In com
pensation Insurance with the competi
tive Michigan system.
geetl.nsl Isrlsenee Is D.saee.
Equally doubtful as to flnsl dlepoM
tlon Is the bill adopted In the House
todsy providing for the election of lull
road. Commissioners by Congressional
districts. The fear of sectional Influence
In the rulings of the Commission may
well be entertained If this bill becomes
law. I will hazard the guess that before
final disposition Is made of this mess
uro the Senate will take up two prnpo
sltlons, one to- elect all tho Commis
sioners at large and the other to make
the Railroad Commissioners appointive
on a non-partisan basis after the terms
of the incumbents expire. The short
ballot Idea, In so much discussion else
where, hss not permested Oregon very
far as yet, and It will be Intertelini;
to observe wneiner it sums a iu"inm
In the disposal of this lasu.
Senate members sr b ginning lo re.
ICodcIuUcU on t'sgs 3 ;