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1912. 18 UNIVERSITY 07 WASHINGTON' FOTBALL MEN WHO WILL APPEAR IN PORTLAND SATURDAY AGAINST OREGON AGGIES. O A. G. IS SELECTED AS SECOND BEST fil'CREOlE SAYS HE ;T'-'C? 7 2 TIIE MORNING OREGONIAN. MONDAY, NOVE3IBEK 4, 0 00 Saens3 ' t 4 lit A il r : "... C Beaver Manager-Predicts His Team Will Be Greatest in Batting Ability. WALTER LEAVES FOR EAST Meeting of Minor league Association Will Convene in Milwaukee on XoTfmber 12 Mac Tells Why He Will Trade Bill Rapps. "We'll have one of the greatest hit- tin rluha in the country." la the prom Ise Walter McCredie, manager of the Portland Coast club, makes for 1913, on the eve of his departure for the Mil. waukee Minor League Association meet! n it. November 12. 'Til have seven .300 hitters in the lineup if I can make a satisfactory trade for Bill Kappa at first base." Using the Coast League official aver ages, which were "published yesterday, as a basis, the Portland clouting array looks formidable. Catcher Fisher bat ted .26: Rodgers. at second base. .304; Lindsay, at third base. .312; and the outfielders as follows: Krueger. .301: Doane. .309; Fitxgerald. .350: Cunning ham. .361. and Ciiadbourne. .283. "My new shortstop. Kores, of Des Moines. Is a .300 hitter, and if I can get a batting first -sacker 1 11 have an en tire Infield and outfield of .300 hitters,' added Walter. "Some of the local fans may wonder at my judgment In letting Rapps go. Bill Is strong for circus stuff, but it takes more than that to win ball games. He is a good fielder, but a poor baserunner and not a good hitter. Then. too. he is dissatisfied and there is no use having a dissatisfied man on the team. We raised him $35 per month last year, but that didn't appease him." McCredie doesn't think there is a chance of Sacramento's securing Roger Pecklnpaugh. He says Harry Wolver- ton, of New York, would never consent to letting the ex-Portland shortstop leave the league. Marty O'Toole. the famous Pittsburg sDltballist. Is visiting in Seattle. Tne $22,500 pitcher had expected to do a barnstorming stunt in Cuba this Win ter, but his boss. Barney Dreyrusa, but ted In and spoiled his plans. Barney's reason was that an athlete acclimated to the temperate zone has no business playing ball in the tropics. "These Cuban trips are not good for ballplayers." said he at the time. "Mike Mitchell, of Cincinnati, went Darn storming a year ago in Cuba and his batting was away off during the sea son: Grover Alexander and George Chalmers, of the Phillies, played in Cuba during the Winter and neither was any good to his club until late in the year: Tom O'Brien, who was with us in 1899, went on a Cuban trip, con tracted some malady and never recov ered." Some 15 or 1 Pacific Coast League ballplayers may be sadly disappointed as to their Winter's itinerary, for there is a chance that Cal Ewing's proposed trip to Australia may be canceled. The Australians Interested in the venture have not made good on their guaran tees, and several cablegrams have been exchanged during the past few days trying to get the tangle straightened out. Some of the expected tourists are McArdle, Wuffli, Zacher, Mundorff. Par kin. Leard. Killllay, Bonner. Bliss. Auer and Charley Baum. The bunch is supposed to sail November 19. That Dave Gregg, the spindle-legged Portland pitcher, is destined to become one of the bright baseball constella tions is the inward belief entertained by Bill Reldy. manager of the San Francisco Seals. Reldy recommended Gregg to Connie Mack as the best pros pect in the circuit, but Mack decided Gedeon looked the best and drafted him. later turning him over to Wash ington when he found his ranks were full. . Frank Chance has finally admitted that he will manage a Coast League club next year, if "properly ap proached." When he slid off the train at Glendore, Cal.. where he has an or ange ranch, he got that confidential. Henry Berry, of Los Angeles, in a weak moment asked a friend to ask a friend to Interview Chance and find out how much it would cost. Switching his optics from his Valen cia and navels for a moment, Chance replied that, seeing as Berry was an old neighbor, about 130.000 for two years and a 110.000 bonus for signing would do him. Penciling out at W. W. McCredle's estimate of - $30,000 net Coast League profits last year. Berry did not Jump at the "chance." This Chicago fellow must be quite a "kidder." Perle Casey, Coast League umpire, is an all-around thorough sportsman. In addition to being one of the best bowl ers in the city. Pearl Is out on the side lines at every football game, high school, college and club, played n lo cal gridirons. OAKIiAXD DEFEATS ALL-STARS Klllilay Holds Old Coast Learners to Five Hits and Wins, 5 to . OAKLAND, Nov. 3. Oakland defeated the All-Stars in the morntng game here today, by a score of S to 3. Four of Oakland's scores were made in the sixth inning. The last two innings were not played because of rain, which also prevented the afternoon game. Score: R. H. E.I R. H. E. All-Stars ...3 S 2 Oakland ....6 9 1 Batteries Abies and Burns; Klllilay and Rohrer. HCCGIXS MAY LEAD ST. LOCTS Conferences With National League Club Is Agreed Upon. ST. LOC13, Nov. 3. Miller Huggins, second baseman on the St, Louis Na tionals, has agreed to confer with the club management with a view to as suming charge In place of Roger Bres nahan. recently deposed. It is not known what offer will be made, but as Huggins has been tendered the man agement of the city club at a salary of $7500, it is expected the local owners will exceed that offer. Bresnahan received 110.000 and had a contract calling for 10 per cent of the club's profits. Juarez to Hold Race Meet. ' EL PASO, Nov. 3. Colonel M. J. Wvnn. general manager of the Juares Jockey Club, arrived here today from Louisville. Ky.. to perfect, arrange ments for the 100 days of racing to be gin on Thanksgiving day at Juarex. Mex. He said that 15 cars of horses are coming here from Latonia alone. There are to be at least six races a day Stakes will close next Thursday. 7ST J "OaJHP f. : ."-ft A S4 V '4-V ..... w t' r, A;r'i 8 i..? . : ' ' ... . III ? : - At Top (Left to Klght), F.lmer Leader and Edmund Leader, Former Wash ington High School Star. l'rlluu, ino look, mo .nu-o ahivc -Doble. of the l Diversity of Washington. Cnnnot Tell Them Apart At Bot tom (Left to Right), 'Rnd' Young, Sensational Young Quarterback, and Jaelc I-atton, the Big All-Star Tackle. DOBIE MIXES TllS Leader Brothers So Alike They Puzzle Fans. ONE IS VARSITY REGULAR w ahinrton Football Players Both riay Good Game One Is End, Other Tackle, but Xobody Kiiohs Which Is Which. i-vivb-RSITY OF WASHINGTON, Nov. S. (Special.) Coach Doble has two men oft his team that he can't tell apart. The Leader twins of Port land High School fame, are a riddle that the canny Scot has never been .u. m nive Klmer and EUmunc Leader entered college last year and enlisted In Pobie's squad, and as both urned out for tackle positions ne nao no wav to tell ineni mwii i. " ever one of them did not play the gam.; to suit him, he turned tne nrewom. on both of them. This vear one of the twins is piayins Mid. whHch one Dobie doesn't know; neither do the fans. A week ago Satur day when the entire second string lineup was sent into tne game aeuinsi in the last quarter, tne coacn mrncu to the bench where the scrubs wer! sitting and looked for someone to take the nlace of Sutton. "Here, Lead er," he called, and both of them rose. I onlv want one of you, the one ina plavs end." and the "Leader that plays end" went into the game and grabbed two forward passes in succession ior long gains. The other Leader has a hard row to hoe in his struggle for a tackle position, as he Is pitted against Patton, Bliss, Anderson. Griffiths and Bruce, all heavy experienced men. Both Leaders rowed on the X resnman crew last year and have more than an even chance of making places In the Varsity shell this year. One day before the Idaho game, wnen Dobio was sweating and striding up and down the field behind his eleven, accusing them of being loafers and boneheads. he sent Assistant coacn Eakins over to one side of the field with a bunch of second team men to put them through a little polite scrim -mare work: He had one of the Leader twins on his team and Eakins had one with him. The seconds had barely go started . when , Dobie shouted, "Say. Eak,' you got the wrong Leader. ena me th one that plays tackle a while; you can take the one that plays end." Two other brotners who nave mans good are Captain Tom Griffiths and Burke Griffiths. Captain Tom has had three years' eXDerience and was elect ed captain this year when Sparger did not come back to college. previous to entering Washington Tom played with the - Culver Military Academy eleven: his brother was a star member of the Broadway High team of Seat tle. Both weigh close to 18a pounds and art - fast. Tom plays tackle and Burke has been giving Preslsy a rub for the center position. Dobie has no trouble in telling the Griffiths , apart. Minor Football. The F. E. Watklns football team made the biggest score of the Archer & Wiggins season, against Stephens, yesterday, defeating the .eleven, 40 to 0. Six touchdowns, a safety and a kicked goal made, the score. The safety occurred when Watkins fumbled to Stephens on the three-yard line and the latter tried to kick out. Powers, right tackle of the F. E. W.'s, broke through and got the man behind his own line before he could raise his foot. The South Portland football team forfeited to East Portland yesterday afternoon. The team showed up at East Twelfth and Davis streets, but because of the water which covered the field and the absence of a place to dress, decided not to play. The Lents football team lost to Mc Loughlln yesterday afternoon, 13 to 0. The teamwork of the winners was what turned the trick in the last part of the game. Lents claims that five of its best men were absent and this was one of the reasons for the defeat. Johnson, Porter and Helms starred for the losers, while Toomey and Twitchell made the two touchdowns for Mc Loughlin, Toomey kicking the one goal. This puts McLoughlin in with the leaders and gives the team a good chance for the trophy. Recovering a fumble on the 30-yard line and getting awav, Albina won Its game from the Mohawks yesterday, 7 to 0. The game promised to be a no. score deal, as neither team ever came near the goal of the other eleven. Standings of the Archer & Wiggins Football League: Albina Ml.ouffhl!n .... Watklns East Portland . South Portland l.ents Mohawks ...... Stephens W. I Tie Pc. , a oo l.ooo ,2O0 3.01)0 , 1 O 1 1.000 , 1 10 ..100 0 1 1 .000 ,01 1 .00 , O 1 1 .txiO 0 2 0 .000 SPORTING SPARKS IS It possible that "Mysterious Mit chell." the ex-Seal pitcher, has taken to golf? Golfers at the Van Cortland links in New York are being stirred up by. the presence of a masked golfer whose remarkable driving enables him to cover the course at a score close to bogey. It is whispered the Cock Robin is an English expert who has come to this country on a $25,000 wager to break the records of the six best courses in America. He made one drive the other day of 300 yards, better than the world's record.- Columbia University is finding ath letics hard sledding without football. Twelve of the 15 athletic teams faced deficits last year, according to the fi nancial statement Issued last week. The total made up by the association was $S903. The crew ran up a deficit of $5000, while the track team went Into the hole $1520. Robert N. Cla'pp, secretary to Al Tearney, president of the Three-Eye League, whose headquarters are In Chi cago, Is a Portland visitor en route up the Coast to Seattle on his vacation. Mr. Clapp is personally acquainted with a majority of baseball men in the coun try, owing to his location in Chicago, which puts him in touch with both major and minor leagues. The Three Eye League has sent many men to the Paolfic coast and Northwestern. Crulk shank. of Portland, and Leard, of Oak land, are two of Tearney's graduates. Mr. Clapp expects to ' leave for the North tomorrow. Patsy O'Rourke, second baseman and former manager of the Sacramento Coast Leaguers, has received an offer to manage the Peoria club of the Three Eye League next season. Peoria fin ished first in 1911. McCaa, the big backfield star who coached Whitman College a couple of seasons back, is now head field coach at his alma mater. Lafayette. This is the word brought to Portland by An drew D. Norris, a former Lafayette and Princeton athlete, who arrived during the week to assume an engineering berth with the street railway company. Washington First, Whitman Third, Is Northwestern Football Outlook. SPOKANE GAME AWAITED Whitman Will Meet Pullman Team on Nemtral Ground Tom McDon ald Says Dobie Has Stronger Sqnad Than in 1911. BY ROSCOE FAWCETT. When Coach Sara Dolan, of the Ore gon Aggies, vouchsafed the information In Portland Saturday that his team stands more chance against the cham pion University of Washington foot ball bunch than any other eleven in the conference, he undoubtedly hit the bullseye. Despite the 10-9 defeat by Washington State, Dolan's men appear the second strongest on the Northwest ern map, with Whitman next, and Whit man does not meet Washington. But there is little sense in Orego nians "kidding'1 themselves into think ing that either the State University or the Aggies has better than a 6 to 10 chance against the champions. Wash ington defeated the Oregon Aggies last Fall. 34-0, in Seattle and the varsity 29 to 3 in Portland. With the Indian. Hauser, in the game, the Aggies might have been rated up to within a touch down or two of Dobie's men, so that, with all the breaks In luck, a victory would have been entirely within the realms of possibility. With Hauser out the four-time champs seem to have all the edge. Tom McDonald, of Seattle, manager of the All-Stars, who play Multnomah student of football, says that Washing ton's line is stronger than in 191L Clarke is the only new man. McDon ald, who Is a Portland .visitor, doesn't think Dobie s backfield quite as ciassy, with Jacquot, Miller,' Shlel and Young supplanting sucn stars as mucnictiuiie, Wand and Coyle, but, on the whole, he is satisfied that Washington is almost up to last Fall's strength. One of Washington's touchdowns against O. A. C. in 1911 was a sort of fluke so that the real difference was about five touchdowns. Dolan's eleven may be stronger even without Hauser, but the gain in efficiency doesn't ap pear to be so marked as to overcome a handicap of five touchdowns. The Ore gon Aggies, however, are a bunch of nervy scrappers, well coached, and will undoubtedly put up a brilliant strug- , . .- n nrtiA-r, thn KpAftlettPS invade Portland for the real big game of the 1911 campaign in the Pacific Northwest. Portland Is fortunate in heinc allotted the one real champion ship affray of the season. Whitman College will get her second kane. when Hahn's hopes tackle Johnny Bender's well - drilled Washington Staters. On comparative Bcores Whit man ia jnstfnort t o win her first game since 1905 from the Farmers, Whitman having defeated Oregon, zu to u, against 7 to 0 for Washington State. The fu tility of doping on a scoring basis is, however, proven In the case of Idaho, . Tnhn'R vinfnrv over Wash- 1DI , . - . .. state, tha Gem StatPrs do not appear to be much stronger than In 1911. Whitman College lost to Washington c.o, A lost Puii ii.o. hut the Mission aries at last have a team fully as heavy as Pullman ana me writer mo Walla Walla victory by aooui one . i.jAWn woh1nfftnn Stat and Whitman scores since 197 are as fol lows: 1897, Washington State 16, Whitman i. nig nriihimrtfin state, o wnitman 0; 1899.' Whitman 12, Washington State 11- 1900, no game: lain, masnineioii State 6. Whitman 2; 1902, Washington c utri.itTniiTi K- 190.1. Washington State 18, Whitman 6; 1904, Washington State 34. Whitman 4; 1905. Whitman 10, Washington State 6; 1906. Washington State 10, Whitman 6; 1906, Washington State 6 Whitman 0; 1907, Washington State 16, Whitman 8; 1908, Washington whitman n? 1909. Washington State 23, Whitman 6; 1910, Washing ton State 9, Whitman o; isii. wasu- ington State 11, Whitman o. t- . v. 1?.., . 1. a o u r (7 a are beinfir shuf- , j.nUinr nf the chamriionshiD November 23 at New Haven between Harvard and Yale. 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