THE MORXIXG OREGOXIAX, FRIDAY, DECE3IBER
4,
iyos.
FRIENDS MID FOES
OF LIQUOR DEBUTE
Preachers, Councilmen and
President of Saloonmen
Discuss Cellars Law.
UNUSUAL MEETING IS HELD
Dvnnrlt Speaks for Present Ordi
nance Knslili?lit lcfends the
Amendment. McKcreher Gets
Hearing for Prohibitionists.
.-readier and naloonkeeper. prohibi
tionist and the advocate of the license
systPin. members of the City Council
and Just ordinary, plain cftizena In
every walk of life- gathered at the
White Temple Wednesday night under
the auspice of the Men s Club of that
church and listened to a general dis
cussion on the mooted ordinance keep
ing women from saloons and the
amendment by Councilman Rushlight,
which was recently defeated. It was a
meeting of unusual Interest and set a
precedent in the line of unique affair
In churches. After frank talks of .rom
five to ten minutes, covering- all phases
of the question, it was apparent that
some of the central figures in the big
truKle between the representatives
of the liquor business and Its oppo
nents understood each other better,
and felt a little more kindly toward
one another than heretofore, it was
agreed that the meeting was a good
thing, and may bear desirable results.
Dr. J. Whttcom.: Brougher. the pas
tor, presided as president of the club.
The whole affair vis most informal
and delightfully interesting. No bars
were put up. except that each speaker
must observe the ordinary courtesies,
and after the two hours of discussion,
indulged in by preachers, saloonkeep
ers. Councilmen and others. Dr.
Krougher expressed himself as highly
pleased with the meeting, and particu
larly as to the deference the speakers
showed for each other.
"It was said by some that we would
have a rough house here." he stated,
"but we have Instead had a mighty
good time together, and w.e understand
each other some better than when we
first came into this place tonight."
All Sides Are Represented.
Those who spoke were Councilman
Bennett, in defense of the Cellars or
dinance. Mr. Cellars being absent:
Councilman Rushlight, in defense of
his amendment, which was vetoed by
Mayor lane; Frank Hoffman, president
of the Retail Liquor Dealers' Associa
tion, who defended the license system;
Kev. K. S. Muckley. who contended for
elimination of liquor from all hotels
and restaurants, as well as keeping
women from saloons and small estab
lishments; P. I. McKercher, who spoke
for prohibition, and Beveral others,
who had their own views of the matter.
Illustrative ' of the cordiality and
good feeling that existed between the
participants, it may be said that, after
the meeting. Mr. McKercher. a rabid
prohibitionist, hurried down the aisle,
extended hid hand to President Hoff
man, of the liquor dealers' organiza
tion, and said:.
'My brother! how are you tonight?"
"First rate." replied President Hoff
man. "I am very glad to meet you."
Then, as it was late, the big crowd
hurried forth from the church.
Brougher Is Ejected President.
At the beginning of the meeting Dr.
Brougher was elected president of the
Mfn"s Club, to fill a vacancy, and made
a brief speech, in which he said he will
never be satisfied until there is a mem
bership of He said that the day
will surely come when the members will
have a miplity Influence in civic affairs.
He declared that the club is to be active
in politics and should be able to "make
some people sit up and take notice."
Ir. Brougher then Introduced Council
man Bennett, who spoke In place of
Councilman Cellars, the latter being in
Seattle. Mr. Bennett said that the Cel
lars ordinance is Uie result of trouble
the City Council had with saloons. He
explained that the cases which came up
for consideration were nearly always
found to have been brought about by
women In the'saloons. He declared that
no member of the Council is favorable
to women in saloons, contrary to a gen
eral opinion.
Mr. Bennett, who supported the Cellars
law, said that it is believed by Its
friends in the Council that it Is the best
measure ever enacted In Portland for
the protection of young women and girls.
He said, however, that it was deemed
unwLse at the time to bar women from
all dining-rooms, lest it should become
obnoxious, so the limit on rooms where
women might be served with liquor was
placed at 400 square feet.'
Councilman Rushlight was then intro
duced and at once proceeded to defend
the amendment recently Introduced by
him. which was passed by the Council.
but was later vetoed by the Mayor and
the veto sustained.
Mr. Rushlight said the first clause of
h'.s amendment provided for the sale of
bottled goods in family stores. The next
clause cut down the floor space to 300
square feet. This, he said, was done to
give certain places here, legitimate un
der the- law, the right to operate. He
then said the objections to the Cellar
ordinance are that It is too sweeping in
'its restrictions on women: he believes
women, are able to protect themselves,
he said. Another objection, he said. Is
that the Cellars law permits women td
purchsae bottled goods In drug and gro
cery stores; but It forbids the sale to
women elsewhere, except in restaurants
serving liquor with meals where there
Is an open and public dining-room, with
400 square feet of flocjr space. He said
that he believed Mr. Cellars was careful
"not to offend the mighty the Grocers'
Association, the Amalgamated Druggists
and the big hotels." all of which are per
mitted to cater to women. He said hi
sole motive In endeavoring to amend th
Cellars law was to mete out justice to all.
Kev. K. S. Muckley then took the
platform' and Ir. Brougher said that,
being a preacher. Kev. Mr. Muckley
would be held down strictly to time. The
speaker declared In favor of amending
In a way that will put out of business
the "big'' hotels.
"I believe Councilman Rushlight Is
honest." aald Kev. Mr. Muckley. "Why
he looks as honest as a preacher! If he
had on my coal, you could not tell him
from one. Now. I think Uie amendment
he offered was in the wrong direction
It would have allowed many places to
sell liquor to women which are barred
under the Cellars law. This was the
wrong way to amend: it Is better to
amend in a way that will put liquor out
of the Hotel Portland grill, the Oregon
rrill. the Hof Bran, the Quelle and
other larger restaurants. Mr. Cellars
said that the juoiio wou.d cot aiaua
such a . stringent law as that, but If
this Is true, I greatly deplore it."
Would t'Ue All Saloons.
The matter as viewed- by a prohibition
ist was told by F. J. McKercher. who
1.1 . 1 . . . I J 1 1 . I t . 1 nf all
li;iu tutu 113 uemaiiirB kit; . w. . .
saloons, and that every one of the other
speaaers neggeu tne question. c ...
that the whoie trouble dates back to
13. when the Federal Government li
cenced the saloon. Tlie result of this,
lie said. Is shown in many ways. He
declared it Is certainly not right to legis
late women out of saloons and not to
legislate the men out also.
"What Is the difference." he asked,
"between a woman drinking in a room of
4'0 square feet or no larger than a gimlet-hole?"
Xotning short of absolute prohibition,
he said, will ever seule the matter and
settle It right.
At this Juncture Dr. Brougher called
for the collection plates.
"Aren-t you mistaken T' asked Rev. Mr.
Muckley. ' ,
The ushers will please pass the plates
and every man will please be so kind as
to take an apple." replied Dr. Brougher.
This little act created a very happy
social feature. While this was being done
Councilman Baker sent over to the
Bungalow Theater and securea tne kt
Ices of Milton W. Seaman, who accompa
nied M. Bowmnn on the piano. Mr.
Bowman singing a beautiful solo. He re
sponded to an encore.
Speaks Tor Ketail Dealers.
President Frank Hoffman, of the Retail
Liquor Dealers' Association,- was intro
duced, and said that prohibition, so far
as stopping the drinking. Is a failure. In
all the "dry" precincts, he declared,
wagons. deliver goods for drinking every
day. As to women, he asked: "Why is
It that a woman can drink In a place
like the Hotel Portland and not In any
respectable taloon?" He said that so
long as the Council licenses "the liquor
dealers are going to fight to hold tTieir
business, and it remains to be seen who
will beat it out."
Councilman Vaughn was called upon,
and said that both the Cellars ordinance
and Rushlight amendment are wrong:
that he wanted all restaurants Included,
and that they are the worst places of
all. He declared that he will support
a measure to exclude liquor from restau
rants. He said he will not sign any
restaurant liquor licenses. He declared
that the only virtue in the Cellars ordi
nance is Its title, "Women-ln-saloons."
B Lee Baget spoke. In favor of prohi
bition, saying it is the greatest issue
before the American people, and saying
the license system is all wrong.
pr. Brougher called upon Councilmen
Baker and Kellaher. and Mr. Baker said
that he was fooled In voting for the Cel
lars ordinance; that it does not do what
he thought It would do In protecting
young women. He said the Cellars law
does not keep wmen and girls from the
gilded places. He asserted lie knows that
, , Jl.ln all thA
in these' places gins are u....-..;n -!!
Dr. Brougher knows It,
too. "for I have seen him there."
"W1U ycu support a measure iu
llouor from hotels?" asked Rev. Mr.
Muckley. .. .
'That is a aencaie queoiiun,
Mr. Baker. ,-,,. ...
I knew that when 1 asueu n.
Rev. Mr. Muckley.
"When I came into this hive I ex
pected to te stung." replied Mr. Baker,
amid great laughter. He then said tnat
... i,.n,i that "fashionable" hotels ire.
necessary to so large a city.
Councilman jveuaner unid.cu .--.
, ..rin nf the Cellars
till always ueen -
law because when Mr. Kellaher triad to
amend it to exclude liquor .i
rants Mr. Cellars voted against It.
Dr Brougher closed the debate by say
ing he supported the Cellars 'aw "because
It Is the best we couiu net. ...
BIGGY WANTED TO RESIGN
Conflicting Reports of His Intention
Given Out.
. L'mvmapn Tie. 3. After 43
houri search no trace of Chief of Police
w j h. von fnund. Rumors
and surmises that the Chief is in hiding
are without foundation, me jiajor
Intended to keep
him in office, notwithstanding charges
that he was incompeiem.
That Chief Biggy offered hla resigna
tion to Police Commissioner Hugo D.
Keil an hour before his death. -and during
th period of his visit to the Commis--i
at Belvedere. became
known today. Keil admit that the miss
ing official offered to surrenuer w
sitlon. In the hope that the Commissioners
would be relieved of newspaper criticism,
to which Biggy felt they had been sub
jected on his account, tut Keil. aocord
T : . HM-lnratlon. refused to ac
cept or consider the proposal, and ad
vised the Oiler tnai me mcmucio
Board would not entertain the Idea of
his resigning under fire,
w T.iim vhen asked today 11
Chief Biggy's resignation had been placed
In his nanus oy Lanuujuu -had
been reported, characterized the re
port a erroneous, uie jiajm
.r i hii enmmunlcation with
Chief Biggy. oral, written or otherwise.
for over a week past ano
no Intimation of any kind that he con-
. -o.i.-nlnB' from his position.
leiupjttiu - ' n r - -
The statement crediting me with any
communication rrom tniei mesj Ke-'
to have been materially exaggerated v to
say the least."
EXPLOSION VICTIM DIES
Emil A. Hargel Succumbs to Injur
ies at Hospital. '
o n..rrat A nf th two men in
jured Monday morning in an- explosion
at the plant. OI tne rm uii
pany. First and Flanders streets, died
yesterday afternoon at St. Vincent's Hos
pital. Harget was unconscious iron,
time of the accident until his death and
physicians had early given up hope of
his recovery.
At the time or tne explosion, narpei aim
n t t uuhan vbpa wnrklnf at the tOD
of the super-heater from which the gas
flows into an enormous iron uuin.
iras in this compartment oecame over-
, . i Aallatnv a lftrfire Iron elbow to
iietnt;u, '-." -
burst. Harget fell 30 feM. but Meehan
clung to the roof and his Injuries are not
considered fatal.
Harget is survived Dy a wiaow anu a
little child, living at 1102 Bast Twenty
sixth street. Mr. and Mrs. Harget
lost a small child by death a short time
ago and the widow is prostrated.
INDIAN SERVICE TO END
Leupp Says Passing Will Be Great
Help to Red Men.
WASHIN'OTOX, Dec. 3. Reorganization
will prepare It .for going out of business
of the Indian service along lines which
at no distant day. is tlie general aim of
Commissioner Leupp. according to his an
nual report. Just issued. -
"No greater help." he declared. can
come to the Indians than through hav
ing this service pass out of existence In
just the right way."
The Commissioner argues that there Is
no better way of accomplishing tills re
sult than for Congress to grant him the
additional employes he needs "to guide
the office In its decline."
A large degree of success, says the
Commissioner, has attended his efforts
to suppress the liquor habit among In
dians. Olympla Malt Extract, good for grand
ma or baby. Only JE-100 of 1 per cent
alcohol. Pnonea Main U. A 2167.
LUST MESSAGE IS
ONEOF FRIENDSHIP
Letter of Late Chinese Emper
or Thanks President for
Return of indemnity.
PRESENTED BY TANG SHAO
Wlslies That American People Be
Kver Blessed With Prosperity and
Peace KoosevcK Gives lte-
ply to Special Minister.
WASHINGTON, Dec. 3. "Long may
your excellency enjoy good health and
happiness; may the American people be
ever blessed with prosperity and peace;
these are our heartfelt wishes."
These are the sentiments expressed in
the concluding sentence of the letter
from the late Bmperor of China to the
President, handed him today by Tong
Shoa Yl. the special Chinese Ambassa
dor, thanking the United States Govern
ment for the remission of J14.000.000 of the
indemnity guaranteed by China for dam
ages resulting from the Boxer rebellion.
The presentation of the letter took place
In the blue parlor of the White Housed
this afternoon.
Square Deal.
The letter was as follows:
"The Emperor of China to the President
of tlie United States of America, Greeting:
"Mr. President: China has always
maintained the most friendly relations
with the United States since the estab
lishment of intercourse between the two
countries. By taking the intiative in pro
posing remission of a portion of the in
demnity ns provided by treaty. Your Ex
cellency has won the respect of mankind
for magnanimity and Just dealing.
Furthermore, the Congress has given
signal proof of friendliness by giving
effect to Your Excellency's recommenda
tions. "In sincere recognition of this generous
action we hereby appoint Tong Shoa Yl,
an official with the rank of President of
a Ministry and Governor of the province
of Fengtlen, as Special Ambassador, to
proceed to the United States for the pur
pose of presenting this, our letter. We
have always placed entire confidence In
his eminent ability, clear perception and
sterling integrity. We have specially
commanded him. In the discharge of his
duties to convey to Your Excellency the
expression of our grateful thanks and
testify to our lasting friendship. It is
our hope that the relations of the two
countries will be further strengthened
by mutual confidence. " Long may Your
Excellency enjoy good health and hap
piness; may the American people be
ever blessed with prosperity and peace;
these are our heartfelt wishes.
'Given on the 24th day of the eighth
moon In the 34th year of Kwang Hsu.
(Sept. .19, 1908)."
" Last Message.
In presenting the letter Ambassador
Tang recalled that It was the last mes
sage addressed by his late majesty to
the President, and said that every line
of it breathed friendship and good will
for the Government and people of the
United States and voiced the sentiments
of all China.
In his reply, the President said:
"I ask you to express to your august
sovereign and to the Chinese govern
ment my appreciation and that of the
Government and people of the United
States, . of the sending of this special
embassy which so finely signalizes a fresh
manifestation of that sincere confidence,
good will and friendship between the
United States and the Chinese Empire
which It is the cherished aim of this
Government to foster for all time."
Boycott on Austria Spreads.
ST. PETERSBURG. Dec. 3. The
Turkish boycott of Austrian goods has
extended into Egypt and Albania and
is threatening to spread throughout the
entire Mussulman world.
It Is an old story
now that nervous
people tell of how
the blood became
thin and poor and
then the nervous
symptoms follow
ed. How many cor
rectly guess that
the thin blood was
responsible for
the nervous dis
order ?
The nerves get
all their nourish
ment through the
blood and as thin
blood is deficient
in nerve-building
material the
nerves become
starved. Pain and
nervous break
down result.
Dr. Williams'
Fink Fills
are a tonic for the
blood that supply
it with the neces
sary elements to
nourish and tone
up the nerves and,
the cause being
removed, nature
does the rest and
health is restored.
At all druggists, or direct from
Dr. Williams Medicine Company,
Scbenectady, N. Y.
5 cents per box; six boxes for $.5n.
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Mine-lManCers on Trip Around Horn
From Hampton Koads.
vrwpart NEWS. Va.. Dec. 3. A haz
ardous journey, the like of which has
been undertaken heretofore only by the
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LOS ANGELES. Dec. 3. The charge
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he hud never received the stock nor
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Wlnthrop & Co., Dorr's New York cor
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been purchased. 1'pon this showing
the defendant was discharged.
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