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THE MORNING OREGOXIAN. THURSDAY, DECEMBER 19, 1907.
IS HILL LIKES
Julius Kruttschnitt Declares
Portland Terminal Prob
lem Hard One.
NEGOTIATIONS AT A HALT
Portland & Seattle Refuses to Enter
Terminal Association on Kqual
TVrma With Harrlman Inter
ests, Says Harrlman Official.
That the Harrlman interest"! have done
everything to relieve the congested termi
nal situation here, but that every offer
has been rejected by the Hill lines, la the
statement of Julius Kruttschnitt, director
of maintenance and operation for the
Union Pacific and Southern Paclflo sys
tems. Furthermore, Mr. Krutt-schnltt ad
mits he is at a complete loss to know
what Portland Is going to do for terminals
unless the Hill people show a spirit of
Mr. Kruttschnitt,' whose offices are In
Chicago, reached Portland yestercliy
mornlnft in his private car from Califor
nia, and was accompanied by his wife and
daughter and private secretary. After
spending the day In consultation with
General Manager O'Brien, of the Oregon
lines, he left last night over the O. R. &
S. for ChicaRO.
"We have had the question of the inade
quate Portland terminals up actively for
the past three years," declared Mr. Krutt
schnitt. "We have worked persistently to
settle this tanglo here and pet down to a
working basis, whereby extensions would
be" made and the business of the terminal
company could be handled satisfactorily.
Ever since the Northern Paclllc Terminal
Company was organized, in 1SS2, this was
the sole object of the organization. All it
wanted was to facilitate the handling and
delivery of freight by the railroads.
"With the securing of the Portland ft
Seattle terminals alongside the , terminal
tracts in North Portland, the alliance of
the Hill Interests -was required to merge
these lands with the other terminals.
The surrender of these lands for the
common good was of prime importance.
The Hill companies always made it a
sticking point in the negotiations that the
Harrlman interests hold the majority of
the stock In the terminal company, and
maintained that, as the Hill people were
represented by a minority of the stock,
an even distribution of the stock should
be made. This was made a prime condi
tion of any settlement.
Plan of Settlement Prawn.
"This seemed the only .thing that kept
the rival interests apart in providing ade
quate terminal facilities for Portland. Offi
cials of the Hill and Harrlman lines got
together some time ago and drew up a
preliminary agreement whereby every
thing would he properly settled. One con
dition of this agreement ,was that the
stock should be equally divided. At this
meeting for the Harrlman lines were
General Manager O'Brien and General
Counsel W. W. Cotton, and Judge Gilman,
of Seattle, represented the Great North
ern and C. M. Levey the Northern Pacilic.
"A satisfactory settlement seemed In
sight. And as the equal division of the
stock of the terminal company was desired
by the Hill people and was the only ob
stacle, we decided to yield and pell 10 per
cent of the stock held by the Harrlman
Interest, giving each side equal holdings.
We accordingly told the Hill people that
we would grant this point, and expected
ro further trouble. This was decided in
"But when, we had decided to make this
concession we were told that the Hill In
terests would not sell the row of blocks
that bound the Northern Pacific Terminal
Company's tracts on the west, but would
lease only. This, of course, stopped the
negotiations again, for a lease Is far from
satisfactory. A lease would mean that
within a few years, or when the life of
the lease runs out, we would be con
fronted by the very same problem over
"The O. R. & K. bought terminal prop
erty adjoining Guild's Iako and other
tracts near by, which it proposed to turn
Into the common terminals whenever a
settlement could be effected, but we are as
far from a satisfactory adjustment of the
difficulty as ever.
Hill Wants to Get Into East 'Side.
"The Hill people insist on getting Into
East Portland. We tell them very well,
we will switch for them anywhere they
want to go in East Portland; but as far
as turning our East Portland holdings into
the common property, that is Impossible.
It must be remembered that the O. R. &
N. has carried Its East Portland holdings
for years at a loss. The company took
the property when it 'was w-rthless and
carried It at an interest charge of $80,000
a year. The company has paid in rent
nearly the total value of the property.
"Our people are anxious in the ex
treme to settle the terminal question here.
The present small terminal tract is not
only inadequate to the demands of the
city and a hindrance to business general
ly, but It la highly unsatisfactory to the
railroads as well, and makes the handling
of their business unsatisfactory. An early
adjustment of the trouble would be of
great benefit in every way."
When asked how soon the Harriman In
terests will resume construction work in
this state, Mr. Kruttschnitt said that will
depend entirely upon money conditions,
and lie can make no definite announce
ment as yet. When asked what he
thought of the general business outlook,
he said people generally express them
selves as confident of an Improvement In
general conditions, but that it will take
time for confidence to be restored. He
said that the railroads do not show a
serlpus slump In tonnage, but he feared
that after the crops have been hauled to
market there will be a decided falling off
KOOHE QV'ITS KAHiROADIXG
Rio Grande's Traveling Passenger
Agent Going Into Business.
M. J. Roche, traveling passenger agent
for the Denver & Rio Grande, has re
signed that position to take the general
agency for Oregon for a company that
has a patented process for waterproofing
buildings, walls and basements and is
operating extensively In Chicago. Mr.
Roche is now looking for a downtown
Mr. Roche was connected with the Den
ver & Rio Grande for a number of years.
He was the first man appointed in this
territory by the -company when It was
operated as the Rio Grande Western.
With the opening of the Ogden gateway,
the road interested itself In this terri
tory. Mr. Roche came to Oregon In 1R91 from
St. Paul and became night editor for
The Orcgonlan. He later became chair
man of tlio local passenger association
when t' organization was operated un
der tho . .anscontinental Passenger Asso
ciation, and before it was declared unlaw
ful upon the passage of the Sherman
anti-trust law. During his residence
here, Mr. Roche has been prominent In
baseball, having been secretary of sev
eral Western and Middle Western
It Is not unlikely that Mr. Roche will
return to railroading later. At any rate
he will retain the presidency of the
American Association of Traveling Pas
senger Agents, to which he was lately
elected at Jamestown. If he does not
go back to the railroad business later, he
will ultimately resign that position.
Colonel Crooks' Funeral.
The body of the late Colonel William
Crooks, who was assistant to General
Manager O'Brien, of the Harrlman lines
in this territory, will be sent to St. Paul
tonight over the Northern Pacific. A
special car of the O. R. & N. Co. will
carry the body of the veteran railroad
man, which will be accompanied by a
son, John S. Crooks, of this city, and
a daughter. Julia M. Crooks, of St. Paul.
The remains will reach St. Paul Sunday
and the funeral will be held there next
Hearing to Be Continued.
There will be a continuation of the
hearing before the Railroad Commission
next Saturday on the subject of the tak
ing off of trains 11 and 12 in Southern
Oregon. The sessions will be held on the
sixth floor of the Wells-Fargo building
and will open at 10 A. M. Local railroad
officials will testify. W. D. Fenton, at
torney for the Southern Pacific Com
pany, will handle the case for the rail
road. Railroadmen Quit Service.
As a result of the retrenchment policy
of the big railroads, H. L. Tlbbetts, con
tracting freight agent for the Wisconsin
Central, has resigned. He will probably
become connected with another railroad
and will continue to make his headquart
ers in Portland. F. K. Swan, contracting
freight agent for the Denver & Rio
Grande, has also resigned .from the rail
road service. He expects to go into
COMMITTEE TO ACT DEFIXITE
LY AT XEXT MEETING.
Councilman Vaughn, the Chairman,
Invites All Persons Interested
to Be Present.
Some kind of a fender for Portland
streetcars will be adopted by the spe
cial Council committee at a meeting to
be held at the City Hall next Tuesday
afternoon at 3 o'clock, according to W.
T. Vaughn, Its chairman, and George L.
Baker and M. J. Drlscoll. committeemen.
A short session was held In the office
of Mr. Vaughn yesterday afternoon, at
which this decision was reached.
"We -now give notice that every per
son interested in fenders, from any
standpoint whatever, should be present
a the meeting of this committee next
Tuesday afternoqn at 3 o'clock in the
City. Hall." said Chairman Vaughn,
"for at that time tills committee is
going to select a fender. We want all
the facts wa can gather and we want
to give every one a chance to be heard,
but we are going to name a fender at
the session next Tuesday, so every one
who wants to talk must be on hand
then. No other opportunity to be
heard will be given."
The committee will especially Invite
President Josselyn, of the Portland
Railway, . Light t Power Company,
which corporation will, be affected by
the choice, of a tender., as If an or
dinance i la passed . requiring Its offi
cials to equip cars with a certain de
vice, it will mean the expenditure of
a large sum of money. All persons
having Ideas on fenders or having
fenders for sale will also have an op
portunity to talk next Tuesday.
As yet there seems to be no unanim
ity of opinion among the members of
the special committee as to which fen
der to recommend for adoption, and so
far as can be ascertained at this time,
no fender has been decided upon in the
minds of the committeemen. Chairman
Vaughn seems to favor the Eclipse,
which Is in use In Los Angeles, but
he was not so outspoken for It yester
day as he was at a previous meeting,
and said he Is willing to recommend
any fender that is demonstrated to be
the' best for the. interests of the city.
However, he expressed the opinion
that it is but fair to secure the ideas
of . the company officials as to what
fender they think best, but emphati
cally declared that, .should the com
pany's officers favor a fender that Is
shown to be useless, their choice will
Councilman Baker Is non-committal
as to what he thinks about fenders.
Councilman Drlscoll favors the "cow
catcher" principle, but Is a new mem
ber of the committee and has not gone
through the various tests of fenders,
as have' Vaughn and Baker. Drlscoll
wjshed a test of some fenders, but
Vaughn and Baker have tired of such
tests, and not until a fender Is decided
upon will 'there be any more, testing.
It is announced.
Believes World Owes
Asrrd Italian Bcgiar Finds Solicit
ing; Alms Profitable Employment
and Save Over f 60.
WITH his pockets bulging with money
an old Italian beggar .was arrested
yesterday afternoon at . Nineteenth and
Washington streets, and was locked up at
police headquarters. He gave the name
-of Stephen Graree, 50 years of age. When
his money was spread out and counted
there was found to 'be $60.17 In cash and
$20 in clearing-house certificates. When
asked where he had acquired that amount
during the hard times and financial strin
gency he rqjlied that he hadn't . beard
anything about the financial stringency
and that "da tima looka mighty gopda to
me;'that he had come over from sunny
Italy to make ba fortune and had suc
ceeded in, getting a pretty fair start.
The -police told him he was welcome to
make his fortune, tout the law would not
permit him to make It begging. While
being taken to the police station he made
a frantic effirt to hide bis money In his
The old beggar was arrested on the
complaint f several families in the neigh
borhood of Eighteenth and Couch streets,
a number of whom telephoned Captain
Moore that he persistently presented him
self at their homes for alms and refused
to go away until he had. received some
thing. Mounted Officer Larfield was
sent out to make the arrest.
THE BREAKWATER SAILS
. Saturday Xext.
The steamer Breakwater, for Coos Bay
points, will leave Portland, Oak-street
dock, Saturday evening, next, December
21, at 8 o'clock. Instead of on regular
schedule. Freight received till 4 V. M.,
Saturday. ' .
Tomorrow (Friday) positively the last
day; for discount on East Side gas' bills.
Portland Gas Company.
HOLDING A DECISION
Congress Waits Before- Pass
ing on Heyburn Bill.
SPOKANE CASE - GERMANE
Interstate Commerce ' Commission
Must Render a Decision on This,
Which Contains Same Point
Raised by Amendment.
OREGONIAN' NEWS BUREAU, Wash
ington, Dec. 18. Congress will prob
ably take no action on Senator Hoy
burn's short-haul amendment to the
interstate commerce law until the In
terstate Commerce' Commission ren
ders a decision In the Spokane rate
case, ' In which this very point Is In
volved. The Heyburn bill, in effect,
provides that It shall be unlawful for
any interstate railroad to charge or
receive a greater compensation for the
short haul than for the' long haul
where the short haul Is Included in
the long haul. In other words, he pro
poses to amend the interstate com
merce law so that no railroad can
charge more for carrying freight from
Chicago to Boise or Spokane than it
charges to haul the samefreight from
Chicago to Portland or Puget Sound.
Charged Additional Rate.
At present the railroads are charg
ing Boise and Spokane, on through
traffic from Chicago, the full rate to
the Pacific Coast, plis the local rate
from the Coast back to Spokane or
Boise. They base this charge upon the
fact that Coast terminal enjoy the
advantage of water competition, and
the railroads. In order to compete with
water lines, must lower their through
rates to points which have both water
and rail transportation. The interior
towns are entirely dependent upon the
railroads, and do not get. the benefit
of low-water rates.
In the opinion of members of the In;
terstate Commerce Commission, the
long and short-haul question raised in
the Spokane case is one of, the mo
intricate, and at the same time one of
the most far-reaching questions they
have been called upon to decide, and
because of its Importance and the great
territory affected the commission is
going verj' slowly In its diagnosis.
Decision May Be Delayed.
It is probable that the decision In this
case will not be rendered for some time
to come, for the .commission does not
want to establish a precedent which will
have to be reversed. In view of the fact
that this whole question Is now tinder
consideration by the commission, and
while there is a possibility that the com
mission, without furthfer legislation, may
solve the very question raised by Senator
Heyburn's bill, the committees on Inter
state Commerce will be Inclined to pass
over this problem for the time being, or
at least until It is demonstrated that leg
islation Is necessary to gain the point for
which the Idaho Senator Is contending.
Coast States Oppose Bill.
It is by no means certain that Congress
will adopt the Heyburn bill, should the
decision of the Interstate Commerce Com
mission be adverse to the City of Spokane.
The bill Is objectionable to men from all
seacoast states as well as states whose
large cities are located on navigable
streams, and the strength of these states
In Congress Is very great; probably much
greater than the states of the Interior. In
addition to the Coast States, the states
of the Mississippi Valley, and those along
the Lower Missouri and Ohio would op
pose the Heyburn bill because of the local
effect It would have.
Apparently the cities' of the interior
must pin their faith to the Interstate
Commerce Commission. If the commis
sion does not decide in their favor tney
have little to hope for from Congress.
DROWNED IN THE HARBOR
Elmer Durland, Steamboat Fireman,
Meets Death White Out Sailing.
Elmer Durland, a steamboat fireman,
19 years of age, was drowned In the
harbor near the Victoria dock yesterday
afternoon through the capsizing of a
small sailboat. Despite the fact that he
was young and strong and a good swim
mer, Durland was unable to withstand
the Icy coldness of the water, and was
seized with a cramp and sank when less
than 15 feet from safety.
Durland put out from the steamer
Telephone In his boat,, which was not
more than nine feet long and equipped
with a small leg-of-mutton sale. It was
a little pleasure craft -which he and
James Grant, the watchman aboard the
Telephone, were In the habit of using' on
the river. He squared away and had not
gone more than 50 yards from the
steamer when a sudden gust of wind
upset this little boat. Durland was
thrown out on his back, and came up
struggling a few feet away from - the
boat. The current was so strong that
he could not reach the boat, and he
therefore struck out for some piling only
a few away. An Instant later he threw
up his hands and sank. He did not come
to the surface again. '
Efforts were made to recover the body,
but It has not yet been found. - '
The accident was witnessed by a num
ber of people on the Irving dock which
Is near by, and by the crew of the tow
boat Geo. K. Wentworth, the captain
of which sent a boat to the unfortunate
man's assistance, but too late to save
Durland was distantly related to the
Shavers, of the Shaver Transportation
Company, which operates several boats
on the river and has been employed on
several of their boats. The recent re
tirement of one of these boats from
active service threw him out of employ
ment and he had lately been spending
his time as an assistant to James Grant,
watchman on the Telephone.
Durland's home Is In Powell Valley,
where his father owns a small farm."
KNEW CARSON IN NEVADA
Daniel Woodford Makes First Visit
to Portland in 15 Tears.
Daniel Woodford, who will be 84 years
old next March, came to Portland yester
day and Is staying at the Merchants Ho
tel. Mi". Woodford lives on Flfteen-itile
Creek and has resided In that -vicinity
for many years. This is Mr. Woodford's
first visit to Portland in 15 years. His
prior trip to this1 city was some SO years
ago when he first came to Oregon.
As early as 1852 he settled in Carson
Valley, Nevada, being one of the first
pioneers of that section. During those
early , days he knew Kit Carson, the fa
mous scout after whom the section was
named, very well. .He sold supplies to the
early Nevada mining camps at prices
which would not be considered exorbi
tant, and there was a ready sale for all
a the produce of that kind offered for sale.
Jookcases and t
ON ANY REGULAR BOOKCASE OR WRITING DESK, EASY TERMS OF $1-00 DOWN. $1.00 PER WEEK
OPEN EVERY EVENING UNTIL CHRISTMAS TO 8:30
Mr. Woodford, who la accompanied by
his eon, will remain In the city for sev
eral days. He Is a hale and hearty old
gentleman,' the best type of the pioneers
who have made ttfe Northwest.
FROM ASTORIA TO ORIENT
New York Capitalist Would Fat on
IjI no of Steamships.
ASTORIA. Or., Dec. 18. (Special.) The
first steps were taken this afternoon to
ward the establishment of steamship
lines operating between here and the
Orient, Valdez, Catalla and coast points.
Including San Francisco, by the accept
ance of a proposition made to the busi
ness men of the city by William H. Gar
land, of New York.
Mr. Garland represents a syndicate of
Eastern capitalists, who propose to or
ganize what is to be known as the As
toria Steamship & Transportation Com
pany with a capital stock of $5,000,000 and
a bond Issue of $2,500,000 additional. In
submitting his project, Mr. Garland said
the company will operate steamships
from Astoria to the points named above
and guaranteed to have at least three of
the steamers In operation not later than
April 1 of the coming year. He asked no
bonus or subsidy from the local people,
but wanted them to float $500,000 of the
company's 6 per cent 25-year gold bonds,
which are to be secured by a first mort
gage on the company's property, the
money to be deposited in banks to. be
hold In escrow until the steamship lines
are In actual operation. He also guaran
teed that all the money subscribed local
ly will be expended in the purchase of
appeal to the Well-Informed In every
walk of life and are essential to per
manent success and creditable stand
ing. Accordingly, It is not claimed
that Syrup of Figs and Elixir bf
Senna Is the only remedy of known
value, but one of many reasons why
It Is the best of personal and family
laxatives is the fact that it cleanses,
sweetens and relieves the Internal
organs on which, it. acts without any
debilitating after effects and without
having to increase the quantity from
time to time. ' v
It acts pleasantly and naturally and
truly as a laxative, and its component
parts are known to and approved by
physicians, as it is free from all
objectionable substances. To get its
beneficial effects always purchase the
genuine manufactured by the Cali
fornia Fig Syrup Co., only, and for
sale by all leading druggists.
the story, the
Is We Are
100 Styles to
weathered oak or
. ular $35.00 value, .
ered oak or ma
glass door; reg
ular $50; special,
YAMHILL STREETFIRST TO SECOND
property and in building wharves and
warehouses and he- has already secured
options on water-front property, amount
ing to about $150,000.
A meeting of representative business
men was held this afternoon and decided
to accept Mr. Garland's proposition, pro
viding, of course, his backing is what he
claims. A committee consisting of Sam
uel Elmore, E. Z. Ferguson and G. C.
Fulton was appointed to make a thor
ough investigation of the matter and if
everything proves to be satisfactory to
secure subscriptions for the bonds,.
Seeking Divorce at Oregon City.
OREGON CITY, Or.. Dec. 18. (Special.)
Mazy Curtis, who was married Septem
ber 20, 1906, to Owen B. Curtis, filed a
' PLECT crops make . '
Jl- good tobacco, and
Wlw - good tobacco makes a fine
chew But it takes the pick of the finest to
fls make Piper Heidsieck. The only plug tobacco I
tIiat " 8oI very gooc toDacco store. Not I
expensive even though it is the best. g
in golden, quar
tered oak; reg
ular $10 value,
birdseye maple or
golden oak (cut
not like desk) ;
"regular $25 value,
all woods, beau
tiful shapes, hand
some styles; reg
ular $40.00 values,
suit for divorce this afternoon, alleging
her husband has a violent temper and
used abusive language towards her. She
also charges him with failure to sup
port. Daisy E. Hall has sued Burton C. Hall
for a deoree of divorce. They were mar
ried In Waterloo, la., March 22, 1898,
and Mrs. Hall says she was deserted Sep
tember 6, 1905.
Splendid Showing at Lakevlew.
LAKEVTEW, Or., Dea 18. (Special.)
WHh available cash on hand aggregating
$132,818.95, or 63 per cent of its actual de
posits of $247,101.79, the First National
Bank of this city along with the other
National banks of the Interior of the
state was adequately prepared to resume
business Monday when the holidays were
removed. The following litems are taken
from the biennial report of this bank to
the Controller of the Treasury on Decem
ber 3: Loans and discounts, $129,008.29;
United States bonds to secure circula
tion, $50,000; bonds and securities, $2669.10;
cash and due from banks, $132,818.95; capi
tal stock, $50,000; surplus and undivided
profits. $13,919.58; deposits, $247,101.79. Busi
ness at this bank was resumed Monday
with the same satisfactory results that
marked the resumption of business at the
other banks of the state without the pro
tection of the holidays.
SCENIC PHOTOS FOB CHRISTMAS.
Klser's make fins presents. 248 Alder.