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Monday, 'January 26, 1925. THE LA GRANDE EVENING OBSERVE v PAGE SEVEH i) n ill The Observer Wanl Ad Page . The Market Place of Union and Wallowa Counties FOR RENT FOR RENT -Modern room. 1012 0-1-24-Sip. 6lh. FOIt RKNT Two rooms purtly - furnished near Stange mill. j Phone 496 W. 12-l-M-lti. jKOR KENT Steam-heated rooms . in ine new liiiriuncr luiutiing on -wtiV Fir street Ulij alno the old La randc rooms, nc.wly papered. iliy day or week, airs. .T. J. Kohhs. 2C-l-24-llp 'FOR IIRNT Furnished two-room I house with garage. Inquire 1520 V.' 10-l-23-2tp P'Oli HUNT 2 furnished' hnilso I heeiiing rooms. . l:iu8 Jurltson. J . j S-l-24-:llp. JKOIl .KENT 'I'hrco looms wilt: I ttu'ttf and light: two roontH and bath; four rooms unci l:tth; one stefiing room, 'to adultB. .r. L. f. Man. 2:l-l-21-ltp : Jl'OM RR nished. NT j C-room house fur- Hasement, garage, wood garden. Cove Hall .St. : 13-!-2a-3tp 1 ; ';.'OR RJpNT .. ' apartment. jt-room furnished 2013 Klrst Htrrnt. . !-J-1 7-tf fcFOR .RENT FIvh room house ul gulfS '(.'Mar. Book store. Inquire ! Newlin -1-20-tf S FOR RENT Modern four room furnished upartment, two blocks from P. ().. Phone 223-1!. t m-i-is-ir IFOR RENT Modern steam heat- Small Farm Will' Take In Modern La Grande Home .. i . -.. . ' . 80' Uteres In Cove. Mill Creek rune, through the plane. Good (I room ihoase, good hnrn, two mod ern poultry houses, hog housa, etc. 12 acres in. huy, 7 acrts In grain, balance In family orchard, garden, berries and ' pasture. Highway runs by the place; just a few blocks from the ;buslness centor, yet just outside city limits. This Is a very desirable home, nicely located.; Shade trees: all clear no mortgages. Owner will cou ulrter exchanging for a modern home in. La Grande- as part pay ment.'. .- Since Cove Is now connected with thOj-Oregon . Trail at .Union and La Grande, watch Cove grow. GeolH.Currey REALTORS ' Kcnl Estato Loans Insurance Business & Professional Directory Classified for Quick Reference BUSINESS DIRECTORY A'lTOIlNEYS COCHRAN & EBEMHARD poo. T. Cochran and Colon It. Eber-! hard, Attorneys, Lu Orande Na-1 tlonal Hank Building. 1 CHIROPRACTORS DR. BELLE MYERS Chiroprac tor, New Foley Building. Hours 10 to 12 a. m., 2 to 6 p. m and 7 to 9 p. in. JJR. J. E. WOO DEI, I Chiroprac tor and Naturopath. Hsln und blood diseases, headaches, ap pendicitis, backaches, .rhe-ima-tism, asthma, eczema, varicose veins, all kinds of stomach, heart and kidney trouble suc cessfully treated. Blood pressure reduced. Diseases of women and children a specialty. Suite 20. Bommer Bldg. Phone 4S7-VV. .Residence Phone 190-W. OSTEOPATHIC PHYSICIAN OSTEOPATHIC PHYSICIAN Dr. J. L. Ingle, Osteopath, Spinal curvature and fallen arches a specialty. Dr. Margaret Ingle, Osteopath. , Diseases of women and feeding of Infants a spe cialty. Office Thone Main IOC. Res. Phone 100-11. Sommor Bldg. PHYSICIAN-SURGEON Dr. F. 1 Ralston Practice limited to the eye, ear, nose and throat, and i fitting of glasses. Sommer Bldg. Main 778. 1-1-lm NATURE CURE DR. A. N. and MARY E. MAY VILLE Specialists In chronic diseases. Methods: Naturopath and Meehano-Therapy. Skin and blood dl.enges, nervous diseases. chronic headache, eczema, sola tlca. appendicitis, constipation bowel trouble: all kinds of chronic disease, successf'illy treated. Call Mnln S23. May- vllle Nature Cure Home. 2101 East Adams Ave. Office hours. ID to 12 a. m.. 1:30 to S p. m. Consultation Free. PROFESSIONAL DECORATOR PAINTER. DECORATOrt Ad lee. consultation and estimates free II yon Intend to nalnt, tint. paper, flnisa or. reflnlsb any Going From Door To Door That's the old-fashioned way for nil y one to find work but Iff) a great waste of effort and shoe leather lt eause Hiti nt the calls made are. useless and only U)'o offer rooI iro.s)tHrls. The modern way to reach every prosper! Is tho Want Ad and one door Is all yon neeil euler. Thi cost Is Mtiall niiich less than yonr 1 line Is wnrf 1 1 yet yon are certain lo find n jtili If one exists. The returns are hu ll n-di ate. "AN OIWEWVCTl WANT An will io n." ed apartments. Warmest In city. Close In. See Archlu J. Murray. Penney Bldg. 18-1 2-22-tfr. FOR RENT I'lve-room .honor near Willow ' School' house on ' Enst O Street. Phone 21S J. 15-l-24-2tp WANTED WANTED Laundry work. Hand liuintlry. Hpeclal--attention to silk and woolen 'Underwear. Phono 163 M. . .... 2S-l-23-4tp WANTED Wushlns. W. Phono 183-B-l-23-8t WANTED Hewlnis uently dono. Phone 434 W. Mrs. Nora Webb. D-12-lt-lni FOLEY TAXI LINE Day and nlKht servlc.o. Cull Main 773. iu-i-9-tr rOR 8ALB FOR SALE Beautiful six room homo. New, strictly modern, story and half, on paved street, three blocks from nigh Bchool One of the city's best locations. Gurage. Terms. 701 M Avo. Phono 309-R. 30-1-19-71P FOR SALE Knitting machine menl the (lUeatlon of , the eooperu wlth 10 year guarantee, as good ! ti0n of Germany In the cecullon as new, used only about a month. Qf public works hus been reonen Cash purchase price $65.00 nnd;(.(i una the conditions under wlilch will sell for $35.00 which In-.Gcrmany could make certain deilv cludes $2.50 yarn. A splendid in-,t.rf.s m Kind, the amount or which vestment for any one wishing to, would ho- placed to the crefHf'of its rennraduns account, are being J building. Interior and extorior,t0 do everything possible to has Joba neatly done. For bettirion tho solution of the problem." jobs call J. Lundy. Phone 481-W m. Brlsson's, plan provided for 10-2:i-lnlldollveiicB from Germany of Bteel TTf!f - ami Iron girders and other arti FRATERNAL DIRECTORY O. O. M. I a Orande- Ixidge No. 3&0 Loyal Order of Moose, holds regular meetings every Thursday night at 8 p. m. at Odd Fellows' hall. Th Women's Mooseheart Legion No. 39s meets every second and fourth Thursdays of each month. Vls- liura welcome, Dr. A. N. Mavville. Dictator. Harold Lund, Secretary. B. P. O. ELKS Im Orande Lodge'""" ''"'''"l " vnvv the ihorough- No. 438. Lodge meeta each Thursday evening at H o'clock. Ilome and club privileges cheer-1 filly nwlAn.l ,a nil 1,-1.- Elks. Lester Brajnwell, Exalted Ruler, Mood Eckley, Secretary. MODERN WOODMEN OF AMRR 1CA La Orande Camp No. 7708 meets on the first Thursday eve ning of each month. In the K. of P. hall. Visiting Neighbors welcome. Ray 8. Dennett, V. C. Jake Rostock, Clerk. WOODMEN OF THE WORLD La Grande Camp No. 169. Meets every first and third Monday nights at Eagles hall. All vis iting Neighbor, welcome. Dues payable at office of the Clerk, Hooms 81-2J, La Orande Na tional Bank Building. T. Recce, C. C. R. 1. Kitchen, Clerk. A. F, and A. M. La Orande Lodge No. 41, A. P. and A. M. holds regular meetings first and third , Fridays at 7:80 p. m. Cordial welcome to all Masons. J. L. Ingle, W. M. A. V. Llndgrcn, Secretary. KNIGHTS OF PYTHIAS Red Cross Lodge No. 27 meets every Monday evening In Castle hall (K. of P. Hall), at S p. m. A Pythian welcome to all visiting Knights. C. L. Berry. C. C. C. L. Graham, K. R. 8. O. E. 8. Hope Chapter No. IS. O. E. 8. holds stated communlca. tlon the second and fourth Wed nesdays of each month Bt 8:00 p. m. Visiting members cordially welcomed. Maude E. Klierhnrd. W. M. Florence Bacon, Secretary. hiake money at home. Inquire Mrs. Nancy A. Morrltt, Box 291, Elgin. Oregon. 64-1-23-41 FOn SALE Kix-rnom moderr. 'house. Basement, furnace, onk floors, on paved street. Price Muoo.oo. $7(t(t.oo down bal ance terms. 226 Cedar. 20-l-24-7tp LOST One whtto yearling heifer. Silck-eared branded three links on the muscle of the right hind leg. Please notify Ed Meyerslck. La Grande, Oregon. 24-l-24-2tp i'Olt SAI.I3 Itoman heauly culls. 7fic sack. Geo. H. Ohapmun. JO-l-lM-Str NEW TODAY . NOTICE. Classified Want Ails are Btrlit If CASH IN ADVANCE; ixipj must hn In tiot1 lntr tlian V a. ifi. date nt InRrrtlou. IUU-h: to ixr word lor eaok liuierUoa. LOST A pearl niohlnre. I.IIiimiU rt-ward.. R4-riirn lo lOuene Mll-lerlnj,-. Ill-1 -211-21 l FOrt RENT -modern apt,' Apt. - 2-rooin furnished IIII7 iMHM'lll. Huh l-l-2U-tr LOST Gray underarm puchet hook between l.a tlrande and Hoi Lake.- Reward. Return to ISiiJ Wash. 25-1-2U-2I WANTKD HlRher prlee paid for heavy rhletiens. Joels tlroeery. 9-1- 20-lt GERMAN WORK TO BE A PROTECTION FROM THE SEINE PARIS tAP). To Ciermnnymny revert the task of protecting Pur is from the inundations of the Seine recurring, every few years, plans for the curbing of which have been under study since the days oi Henry IV.. Victor Potrat, minister of pub-; do works, replying to a sugges-j mount studio from the four winds, tlon from M. Emlle Brisson; pres- .Seventeen year old Betty Bron Ident. of tho . general ., council of; son finally won the role, selected the Seine department, jthat "Ger-'hv j .,,- r iiarrle. the aulhor. many coQperate In. the execution of great works of public utility." replied as follows: "I have the honor to inform you that followinc the .London nsroo- examined anew. "It is not possible for mo nt present to tell you to what ex tent the work of protecting Paris and Us suburbs against the inun dations of the Seine would bene fit by these deliveries, but you may he asuured that the matter will bo studied thoroughly and that mv ndmlnlfttrn linn In rennlvml cles destined to form the struc ture of reinforced concrete walls, to he b'lllt along the river banks from Champlgny, ten ni bs eact of ParhV to Argeiiteull, ulout Ihe same" distance wist. Voronlo lo Pave Streets, VERONIA, Ore. At regular meeting nf elty council, T. II. Boyd wns put In charge of finance nnd genernl city Improvements. I Tho L - " pavement of Uridge street, ,n"i?r:i!GriPi,ine,Fnm- recently taken over from hla county, was discussei i.iif un weaiiHT pi'riilli leu, Illso lot hsrd.siirfai'e l-'lrsl, Second and ""1" " ' ' myine. wiuer nnu ' ,l"njr I, III i iiun,:!! I ll, BI'HIT Julius amouniing io iii.-'tio ui par. These bonds bear C per cent Interest. 2 RKiJENTS APPOINTED SALEM, Ore. John II. Fuller of Ashland was appointed a regent of the state normal school nt Mon mouth to succeed John S. Coke of Portland, whose term hns expired. Judge J. W. Ilamlllon of Hose- burg has been reappointed a mem ber of tho board of regents of the rnlverslty of Oregon, for a term of 12. years. Judge Hamilton has been a member of the hoard for 24 years. Both appointments were . announced by Governor Pierce. MAMTM POP Ci-;. ' ( SAM SOWNM - 1 (Q) I VxlOULDN'T MHlSTl.e ' VNHILE MOO VvORX, j- OUTBURSTS OF EVERETT TRUE By Condo f Ui) , I mmS that's' i Right, si R. CXf?iSTrtv3 ano ncuj Unt i'm bassins THese. WCt-C MCANINS BAJT ILL ADVOCP FRlCNDS THEM TO ME; WHAT TOU La Grande "Peter Pan" ; At Arcade Features A-l Cast. For over half a year, thcquest for a player to portray the title role in tlio Paramount film ver- 'slon of "Peter Pan" excited t.n ' iversal Interest. Suggestions for the part poured Into the Para- himself in a competition yllh some one hundred aspirants for this much conveied dramatic prize. Among them wero some of the world's greatest artists. Accord- ing to Barrle. pretty Miss Bronaon i 1 !vri'i si JEt-r is the ideal "Peter Pun". I f li st degree and robbery in con-1 Ernest Torrence, tho. scout ofpcCtion with the Scandinavian hull "The Covered Wagon," and Lolii munler-robbery January 4, enter Wilson's ruueh foreman In ."Norih.: ed pleaH-ot not guilty to Iwo in. of 36." is cast as Captain Hook. j1lctmmta, before Judge A- L, l.ea the pirate chief. Virginia Brown vitt this morning.' The Your "men Fairc Is casl as the- little' fairy, jwcre: W. S. Pate, John Taylor, Tinker Bell, Cyril Chudwick and i John O'Shea and Pete Kiillivan. Mr. Darling nnd Anna May Wong jjpniurrers to the rotibery and portray the Indian girl. Tiger , murtier nlictments Interposed by Lily. All the aforementioned play- j attorneys for the defendants were ors appear in featured roles In the OVl,rrUtM by Judge Leavltt. st. Present in the crowded court- Wendy, besides "Peter Pan" per-1 room were O'Shen's mother qulet hapSf the most Important -role inlly weeping and John Taylor's wlt'e the. production, is played by Mtirvjnnd 4-year-old daughter. Brian. II Is her first motion pic ture role anil one of the finest por- truyals of the season. Little Jack Murphy und IMillliipe He i.nccy are cast na Wendy's hrothnrs. .Inlin and Michael Darling. Esther llul slon plays Mrs. Darling anil then, of course, we mustn't forget Nana, the dog-nurse. Gforge All gives a rine' pantomimic periprmiince in l his part. 'peter Pan," which opens a days' run todny at tho Arcade Theutro w.iss adapted 'for the serein by Willis Ooldheck. '(iTIpv fWri 'Frpp I . . ,, Will" IAt ollOl I VS 'IS '- A eoniliei or will" o-"i wt n man and a woman Is always In- ; ten sung, nun anil ii r nnwnini IUTI u wmiir Ul l , iiwii rn'u win, rfinm Chad- wick's first starring vehicle, play- , Ing at the Sherry theater. This Hereen dramatization of the Ethel M. Deli story Is a mlEhty good ' picture. t The plot Is a rnther unusual one. j Nan Is one of Miose Impulsive, warm-hen rted girls. who leaps first nnd looks afterwards. She mnr-: rles a man she does not .love, to - save her rather from bankruptcy, i Fate seems to rewnrd her by sep arating them even before the honeymoon but. of course he comes hack and then tho trouble begins. The story works up to a dramatic climax which we are not mean enough to alve away. Suffice It to say that It holds you breathless I'M MOT MAC - I'M VJHISTLIN'- I II I I I I r- i .. r , J j don't thank cves havs Russaf sguiSaws to vou oecuse 3?ON'T FlNO OF sj&B To areowN-vjPS, -et Tue otitH ecorvc to Tue mds Theatres and to use an expression of the sweet young things, "thrilled to death." ;' Ilelene Chndwick gives a splen did portrayal of Nan. It Is a real trent when a girl who i so easy to look at can act loo. She cer tainly deserves Ji'r promotion to stardom. Holmes Herbert wllh whom husband roles neein to be a specialty, is good as the master ful Peter Cradoek and Allan Simp son is convincing us Jerry l.i.ster, the young chap who goi-s n little too rar In helping Nan forget that shci is married. Comedy showing "Our Congresfi mnri." ' ALLi:il:i) NLAYICHS l'l.KAI) KLAMATH FALLS,' Ore. Four men charged with murder In the The true name of Charles Smith, wnntcil here j Pmiging him on an indictment Willi complicity in the rolihery-inurder nt the Scan dinavian hall, Januury 4, Ih I'lutrli'H Murynk, according lo Fred Mnl'lcy, special stale Investigator. Ghost near Fori Worth, Tex., was a horse, riuess that wns n lulglilmiire. Anyhow It was a horse 3 j on them. Snodgrass & Zi immerman Undertakers Ambulance Service Phone Main 62. Corner 4th and Penn NtUL 6ET BU6W 1 and do 50me.thin&' Sou'vje Sot a Tine VM0RKIN JUST Chance to make GOOD HERE IF . NOURE VJILLiroS V, TO NM0R.K jllfl mi 5 p IJHm' , 1 1 27 YEARS ,, ' AGO Dally, Morning Observer, Janu ary 25, 18U8. Six degrees below sturo Sunday night. A. J. Martin's thoroughbred Scotch terrier died laat Friday. Harris come over from Cove Monday in bis cutter, stating Grande Ronde is now enjoying the Imsl sleighing for years. A. Le Hoy leaves tomorrow for the east in Ihe interest . of the Pausey Pierce Heul Mutate Co., to secure If pow'bli. 500 German Americans who hp.ve had experl ence In growing sugar beets. Mr. Le Uoy will open headquarters in t'hlcugo, when he will be augment ed by assistants who will arrange dates when he can meet their peo ple and address them on the un limited resources of our county and state. lr. Lo Itoy has been a resi dent of this valley over li years, during which lime he bus made frequent vIhIIh In nearly-, every county in the state, being a man or more than ordinary ability. Ihe above named firm ih imbed for tunate In being nhle to imp res his hearers with our wonderful patent 1 possibilities at the Bit me time those of tis who know him know that be will not misrepresent thingH. and wboinsotver will visit this county at. his solicitation wilt llnd v. iy i hlng exact lv as represented, and will he certain lo be Well plenHed and perfectly contented lo cast their lots in the land of i.ever rail ing crops, beyond the path of the deadly cyclone, , . A party of young people success fully niirprlHcd Millie Adler at bis home. Saturday evening. TIionc pi'esent were Mollie Synborst, Pearl Parker, Mable Holbrnok, Mlsa Ush er. Mrs. Wilson, l-tobliy Argyb-. 3.eigh Wilson. Willie lnvltt, Hub ert Tail. Johnny ami FreU .Wines, Harry Ituaker, Karl Mefomas, Tip Montgomery and Jesw Terry. Odd Fellows hall was filled with veterans of the rebellion, their wives, children and friends to wit ness t heir Installation ceremonies. Geo. Dillon was mustering ofricer for Oliver Morton Post No. 3fl for the year 18fi8, Monday evening Jos. Anson, commander; W. F Burnett, senior vice enmmarider It. W. Faulk, Junior vice command er: serjretinlj J. It. Kennedy; quar Purify Bread MADE CLEAN - SOLD CLEAN From the mixer the dough la plneed Into "all-steel troughs, assuring ho consumer of cleanliness and sweetness through-' out tlio process of ugetng tho dough. . Wo ar$ glad to announce to the public that our products enn now be bought at The Pal ace Confectionery. ' , : La Grande Bakery K. J. MkWIMjIAMS, Owner Tho Only Independent Bakery in La Ornnile. BLUE HIHIION BREAD Sl'l'iatl'I.NE BREAD Eiighlh Message Why pay more? You can liuy nn ESSRX or a HUDSON COACH for less. Lcdbetter Garage 1406 Attaint Avenue NOW FOLKS We have to offer a good assortment of Used Sewing Mnchlnes, -SINGERS - WHITES . M.W HOMES - lilll-.S LONG OR ROTARY SHUTTLE. I 'nun 85.110 to tin.no . 'VF. Ill' Y, St ILL OR TRADE, Furniture Exchange Fir and Jefferson . . Phone 471-J Blue Mountain Oregon Lumber "up r. c i Ad 1 , tins! what you want for n garage floor fioml Prim, Bowman-Hicks Lumber Company MAIN S CIIAI.V AND BOX WOOD PnO VIS MAIN Mt J. I. ML.NHALL 1 knevj a moling man one time who bm Careful planning and Diligent work Soon O'WMED A LARGE XL 1 ' u - mi.ii'itiiiin' f r CAR TT5 .. T t ermast er, A. J. Goo db rod ; adju tant. T. J. Stephens; officer guard. Prank Leavltt; officer of day. Sam Deal; Q. sergeant. - Geo. Quimhy sergeant major, Iteuhon Page. To have heard the boys in bluo sing the old songs they sang while they were before Vicksburg, Gcttyxburg, or while marching through Georgia one could not help hut revive that latent patriotism that rests in ev ery true American breast. The vis iting comrade were J. W. Cowan of Elgin; J. it. Johnson and Geo. Dillon of I'nion. At the conclu sion Mrs. Cora B. Scott proceeded to install the newly; elected of ficers of the Woman's Belief Corps No. ST. assisted by Mrs. Arab Pres cott,.conductrcAs, an follows: presi dent, Mrs. Harriet Harrison: on ior vice ptesident, Mrs. Clara V. Lylc: junior vie president, Mrs. Klisnhcth Deal; treasurer, Mrs. Arah prescott; secretary Miy. Hose Talt; conductress. Miss l.uU Htephci)Hon;. guard, Mian Lutlciu Palmer; assistant guard. Miss May Stevens; nasi stunt conductress, Mrs. Artie ('of fey; 1st Col. bearer, Emma Klevena; 2nd Cot. hearer. Uiverna GuNtavson; 8rd col. bear er. Mrs. H. Itogers; 4tli rol. bear er, Mrs. Alice Crlppen. Iterlln Adnpis American MclhodK of Housing BEI1IJN, .(AP)-Framn houses moili-lleil iinnn A iiiortciin nfittomn ire begin big to be . popular in Berlin. A whole section of wood- houses, a sight hitherto un known in lurjrc German cities. Is springing up on the extreme west. end of the German metropolis. . The Germans have, hevetofair ridiculed I he idea of woodeii houses. Anything Hint did not last through several generations did not - seem worth building , to them. But today econilc necessity has driven I hem In si udy -1 he problem of the wooden ho ise. To their surprise they find that wood IlliM stood the test of lime in America, when there tiro houses dating back to Colonial days. Tlu y are, therefore, trying out the wnodep house Idea, which they find much cheaper than stone and brick construction, Another housing idea that the Germans are taking from the Called States Ih the two, three and four room apartment. These are designed along American lines ami are popular In Berlin. ., NJOVv QUIT ME AMD ToDo- 3 CTOPCT I CONDUCTOR Olympia Oyster Cocktails In Season at THELOTTES 111S Jefferson Ave, Buy P Lot U : : til FOI.KY AK1HTIOX : Tho new Koley Addi tion la now open. Call and pick out your lot. Ju 8. Renltor 1'Oley Itiiiltllnc ftluiu Tit Net, It im mlvi'rtlscii It's goaiil li, be knows WEAVER'S Tailors, Clcnncrs, Dyers Anrt PresHera . PHONE MAI S 733 , Depot (street La. Grande v Mattress Shop and Weaving Works Mattresses of all kinds oleaned and rebuilt; Feather Renovating. Hng and Fluff . Rugs made to order and for sale. Carpet and Ruff Clb-rt.." ing. Furniture Re-coverlng. Ijlceiiscil Fiiinlgalrr, Factory Phone 421-W . CIIAS. I'.DWAItDS, Pi-... UNION-LA GRANDE , AUTO STAGE ' : .TIME TABLE , Tionvcs Leave, ' t'nlmi La Grande 8:15 A. M. 11:00 A. M. 1:16 P. M. 6:15 P. M. Similars Iicaves Leaves Union l.a Grande 1:00 P. M. 6:16 P. M. 1 Saturday Klglit Specials Leaves , leaves Union La Grande 7:00 P. M. 11:00 P. M. lfentcil Cnrs t P. (1, DeLAP, Manager Hcniliiiarters, Summer Hold BUILDINGS! MATERIAL SASIf AND DOORS HARDWARE . Grande i Ronde Lumber Co. A Home Concern- With a llontu Purpose BULL WOOD Greenwood Avenue Phono M-732 BY TAYLOR KiODING H &05H -MUST i FIND r- DO THE WORK Something J a '-no find it " -,-t , TOO ?