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Medical: OHSU, University representatives appointed to iron out details Continued from page 1 would use current University sci ence facilities. “We could use existing facilities and avoid an otherwise enormous cost you’d have to incur if you’re doubling the number of students,” he said. “But we’re not going to dis place any of our students.” Robertson added that medical students would be taught by a combination of OHSU and Univer sity faculty. As for undergraduate benefits, Robertson said having medical students on campus would cultivate interest in medical careers among other undergraduates. Frohnmayer added he foresaw internship opportunities. SPOT THE TEACHER IN THIS PICTURE. It’s just as difficult to spot Army National Guard members in their civilian jobs as it is here in the field. That’s because Guard men and women are citizen-soldiers, woven into the fabric of the communities they serve. 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We have great University rates. fk i Frohnmayer said the program would be funded with a “pay-as you-go program” and that all three institutions would participate in funding it. “We’ll expand only as rapidly as we can absorb it,” he said. Administrative details have yet to be worked out, but representa tives from both universities were appointed Friday to address the is sues. Robertson stressed that the program would be part of a joint effort and that both institutions would manage it equally. “I expect it to be balanced,” Robertson said. “This is a full partnership.” Robertson said this is the first time that OHSU has pursued such a program. “This is the first time we’re look ing at providing basic science to our medical students in locations other than the OHSU Portland campus,” he said. Robertson said the University provided an ideal location for such a program. “(The University) has strong biomedical science programs,” he said. “(It) has a health system in close proximity that was a very eager partner. ” Robertson said all partners are ex cited about the new venture. “It’s an opportunity to meet a very compelling need in an efficient and expeditious manner,” he said. moriahbalingit@ daily emerald, com Tim Bobosky | Photographer Local businessman Ibrahim Hamide introduced Shimri Zamaret and Noam Bahat to a crowd of 50 people in Columbia 150 Hamide began by giving the group his favorite definition of freedom: “The ability to defer and still be safe." Israel: Zamaret says peaceful exits end violence Continued from page 1 his other two were wounded after “in tense gunfire” from Israeli soldiers hit his vehicle, Bahat said. “Unfortunately, this testimony is not unique,” Bahat said. Zamaret said Israeli soldiers are also affected. He told the story of a soldier who saw another Israeli sol dier threatening to hit a Palestinian man with his rifle while recording the man’s pleas on his cell phone. Za maret said soldiers in the territories also sometimes loot and use exces sive violence on civilians. “I couldn’t believe you could see so many awful, terrible things in just three months,” Zamaret said. Zamaret said such actions cause some soldiers to lose faith in the military. “Occupation is a big word and this story illustrates the price both our so cieties ... are paying for this occupa tion,” Zamaret said. “I’m talking about all those other guys who are coming back scarred, not on their bodies, but on their... souls,” he said. Bahat said nearly 1,000 Israelis and almost 3,000 Palestinians have been killed in the past four years. “This is the price both sides are pay ing for this conflict,” he said. People from both sides of the con flict must work to peacefully resist the violence, he said. Bahat added that he and Zamaret are part of a “growing movement” of people who refuse to serve because of objections to the occupations, but they are still in the minority. Zamaret agreed, saying the “most powerful tool” Israeli citizens have is to refuse military service. He said his experiences in prison were validated by a letter he received from a Palestinian man who said he had formerly been working to organ ize bombings with the militant group Hamas, but decided to peaceably resist the occupation after hearing about Za maret’s actions. “For me, the whole two years was ... worth it just for this one letter,” he said. Bahat said former military occupa tions show that occupying countries will eventually withdraw. He said the current situation can be resolved if Is rael withdraws to its 1967 borders. “The solution to this conflict is obvi ous and clear,” he said. “If it has been clear for so long, we must ask ourselves why we are not implementing it. ” Zamaret cited the Israeli pullout from the Lebanon border four years ago as an example of how leav ing disputed areas ends violence. He said that there hasn’t been as much vi olence in the region since the pullout. “I think that’s a good example of what we’re trying to accomplish by re fusing,” he said. Zamaret said he is not opposed to all wars, citing World War II as a war worth fighting. “Like all people in this room, I ob ject to wars, but I’m not a pacifist,” he said. “I do object to this war because I think it’s immoral and unnecessary. ” Zamaret said he and Bahat will not face further prison time, adding that they received a certificate saying they were unfit for service in the military. “For us, that was kind of a compli ment,” he said. Ibrahim Hamide, a member of the Eugene peace movement and a Pales tinian immigrant from Bethlehem who was slated to introduce the pair at a lat er presentation held in Columbia 150, said the men’s testimonies show that not all Israelis support the occupation. “It’s an eye-opener for a lot of peo ple,” he said. “They’ve heard one line and one line only for forever. ” He said the men did not show weakness through their actions. “They’re not traitors,” he said. “They are strong Jews, strong Israelis who would defend (Israel) to the last drop if it was attacked.” Graduate student Ron Smith, who has relatives living in Israel, said he completely agreed with Bahat and Za maret’s message. Smith said he has been active in demonstrations in Cali fornia and Washington state against the occupation. “The biggest impact was to meet someone who had made the great sac rifice in prison,” he said. He said it is vital for people to “understand that occupation doesn’t help Jews.” However, not everyone agreed with the speakers. Beryl Bessemer, a student at South Eugene High School who lived in Israel for five years and who has family members living in the disputed territo ries, agreed that Israelis shouldn’t live in the occupied territories. Yet Bessemer said withdrawing from disputed territories wouldn’t end the strife because Palestinians want to control all of Israel. She said more attacks occurred after the Israeli army pulled out of the Gaza Strip, adding that Israel wouldn’t exist without the army. “I understand what they’re saying, but it won’t work,” she said. “It’s so much deeper than that. ” parkerhowell @ dailyemerald. com