Oregon daily emerald., April 06, 1972, Page 3, Image 3

Fails to determine additional courses
ROTC Committee leaves requirements up in air
ROTC Advisory Committee members
failed to agree Wednesday night on
whether Army and Air Force cadets at the
University should be required to take
additional academic courses as part of
their required programs.
The committee—which is considering
alternatives to the present ROTC
program—did agree to release agendas of
future meetings. This will give anyone
wishing to offer information to the com
mittee time to submit a written summary
of the information to Chairman Albert
Kitzhaber. From this summary, the
committee will decide if a personal ap
pearance is necessary.
Kitzhaber said he has received requests
to appear before the committee from
major Edward Gear, Captain John
Lambert and Andrew Thompson of the
Counseling Center.
By JOHN PIPER
Of the Emerald
Thompson also accused the committee
of operating in secrecy because it didn’t
offer copies of the Kitzhaber’s working
draft for general circulation.
“We are not operating in secret,” Kit
zhaber responded, saying that draft copies
are not being distributed because of “the
grave danger of (the document)
misrepresenting what we’re doing.”
He said the document has no official
status, but represents only his opinion.
When told he should present the com
mittee with a written summary of the
information he wanted to offer, Thompson
said: “It just so happens I know a lot about
this issue,” adding it would take too much
time to write out a position paper.
Kitzhaber shot back: “I know a lot about
this issue, and I took the time to write it
out.” (Kitzhaber presented the committee
with 34 pages of revisions just before
Wednesday’s meeting. The first 16 pages,
which are basically a summary of the
work of previous ROTC committees, were
not altered in his third draft report.)
“This policy (of distribution) will insure
that anything a speaker says will be
irrelevant” to the discussion, Thompson
said, because without draft copies a
speaker will have no knowledge of the
report.
“Secrecy insulates against input,” he
concluded.
Professor Barry Siegel told Thompson:
“I’ve found many of your remarks in
sulting,” explaining that he felt Thompson
had implied the committee would have a
tendency to defend the final report against
criticism, rather than consider conflicting
opionions.
Kitzhaber emphasized that the com
mittee is an advisory, rather than a
legislative, body; and its report must be
considered by the faculty.
As for reorganization of the program
itself, Kitzhaber’s revised draft suggests
that Army and Air Force cadets be
required to take 36 hours to fulfill ROTC
program requirements.
Under the present program, cadets are
required to tak«> the equivalent of 24 hours
in military courses. No credit is received
for drill-leadership activities.
In addition to the present requirement,
Kitzhaber suggests that cadets be required
to take courses in “U.S. Military History”
and “National Security Policy in the
Contemporary World,” for a total of six
additional credit hours in the freshman or
sophomore years.
These subjects are currently handled by
military instructors, but under the Kit
zhaber draft they would be taught by
regular faculty members and would be
open to all University students.
Kitzhaber also suggests that cadets be
required to take an additional six credit
hours in the junior and senior years which
are selected from the “War and Peace
Studies” curriculum.
Both Army ROTC Colonel William Burr
and Air Force ROTC Colonel Don Ford
agreed that Kitzhaber’s suggestion to
increase cadet hours “couldn’t be better.”
However, Siegel strongly disagreed with
the suggestions for increased hours,
saying “as an academican I resent the 24
(ROTC) hours” required within a 186 hour
University program.
“From the beginning I’ve been in favor
of (establishing) off-campus centers” to
train military officers, he explained,
adding that “ROTC is a foreign element on
the campus of the University.”
Siegel said he also resented ROTC in
structors being able to vote at faculty
meetings, pointing out there is little in
teraction between the military and faculty
on this campus.
Officers should be trained at off-campus
centers such as the Eugene Armory, he
said, and should receive no academic
credit.
Off-campus centers could attract both
University students and non-students,
Siegel said.
He said arguments that the University
would lose control of the ROTC program if
it moved off-campus were unconvincing,
because if no credit is offered “I don’t care
what the content of the program is.”
Siegel emphasized that additional
electives would place an extra burden on
the cadets in an attempt “to make sure
(ROTC) is not infecting their minds,”
“We've tried to liberalize or sanitize the
ROTC program as it already exists,” he
said, without fully considering whether off
campus centers would provide a better
program.
Seigel said any new courses in a “War
and Peace Studies" curriculum would
have to be initiated at the expense of
existing courses, and “I would not place
(these courses) at the top of my priority
list.”
He concluded the ROTC program should
be left in the hands of the military, with the
number of hours reduced.
Colonel Burr responded that ROTC “is a
foreign element, in a sense, because the
University makes us so.”
Law Professor Hans Linde said a
proposal for an off-campus military center
isn’t possible at this time, but if it does
become feasible in the future he would
recommend that the ROTC committee
explore this as an appropriate alternative.
Siegel then moved that the committee
reject Kitzhaber's recommendation that
cadets be required to take an additional 12
hours of academic courses, saying that
such courses would “make an unnecessary
demand upon the ROTC’s student’s time"
The motion failed by a vote of 5-1.
The ROTC Advisory will meet at 7:30 p.m. next Tuesday
in 123 Law Center. The committee will discuss recom
mendations for:
—the reorganization of the ROTC program;
—a required course in “U.S. Military History”;
—a required course in “National Security Policy in the
Contemporary World”;
--academic courses to be elected in junior and senior
years.
PE requirements . . .
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Grace Graham, education professor, said that many HPUP
recommendations “say the woman is nigger.” She pointed out that
while the majority of male PE instructors are graduate assistants the
majority of women teaching PE are regular faculty appointees. A 3-4
FTE cut would affect them, she said.
Joan Acker, HPUP member, agreed that HPUP hadn’t given
enough thought to this argument.
Bayard McConnaughey, associate professor of biology, also
presented his motion asking that the Faculty Senate recommend to the
faculty that the ROTC contract between the University and the
Department of Defense be terminated.
There was some discussion whether this motion was appropriate
for the faculty to vote on, since a study of alternatives to ROTC is
currently taking place. The faculty voted last spring to have the ROTC
Advisory Committee present their recommendations to University
President Robert Clark by October, 1972.
Law professor Hollis moved to postpone the motion indefinitely
because, “Unless something of a crisis or a complete change of con
ditions, the faculty ought not to overturn their action.” He said he
moved to postpone indefinitely instead of tabling the motion to allow
for debate at the faculty meeting April 12.
The final vote on the postpone indefinitely recommendation to the
faculty was 16-14 with one abstention.
Pearl show features PIGS?
On the Wednesday evening KZEL Art Pearl vs.
the World Show, Pearl and his guests, John Dotson,
founder of the year-old People Interested in
Government Service (PIGS), and Joe Schoenfeld,
graduate student on leave from the Department of
Sociology, found themselves agreeing on several
ideas.
For one thing, Pearl and Dotson feel the same
about the press. “I love the press—who needs ac
curacy?” quipped Pearl. Commenting about the
Eugene Register Guard’s coverage of the first PIGS
meeting held in May 1971, Dotson said, “I never
knew that anyone could turn black into white with
the sketch of the pen.”
Dotson said that PIGS was formed to ease the
polarization in the community. Schoenfeld accused
the PIGS of not wanting to face national problems,
such as the Vietnam War. Dotson replied, "How in
the hell are you going to correct the world when you
can’t keep your owr doorstep clean?”
The founder of PIGS said that the group is in
terested in politics on the local level. He also said
that the group has been responsible for defeating
several school bond elections.
Dotson added that PIGS has asked the County
Commissioners some important questions. “Three
of them are very friendly with each other,” Dotson
said. “How many people know that on February 10,
1972, their right to referendum was revoked?”
PIGS is working to see that the community is
aware of such local politics, he said.
Dotson said that PIGS “are not anti-student . . .
not anti-longhair ... not anti-young people,” but are
“seeking action against extremism and violence.”
“We came to find out that the best friend that the
student and the average citizen has are PIGS,” he
said.
Dotson said that he is afraid that "youngsters are
so disappointed in the system that they don’t even
want to vote.” He said that the only way to change
the system is to work within it, and he agrees with
young people that it needs changing very badly.
Schoenfeld replied that 70 per cent of the Univer
sity’s student body is currently registered to vote.
Pearl asked Dotson who he wanted for President.
"It’s a matter of whether you wan! to pick an ugly
wife or an almost-beautiful girlfriend,” Dotson
replied “As yet I can’t seethat we have any timbre
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