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Gus Hall Addresses 11,000 Monday (Continued from (age 1) have the nuclear capability to destroy the world." THE DIVIDED world, he said, is faced with two choices: 1) to end all contacts and ne gotiations and use the bon'.b to destroy the world; 2) to coexist. "It's either coexist, or perish,” he said. “WAR AS AN instrument of diplomacy for any nation has dis appeared. It is now outmoded. The change has been in the way of accepting Communism and In ternational Marxism,” he added. But Hall did not forecast the victory of Communism over capi talism. He said instead that the two ideologies must exist in com petition, “they must continue to debate, to argue, but they must coexist. "President Kennedy recently said in a speech before the American Association of Manu facturers that Capitalism is on trial. I would add that every system is on trial. In the end. people will weigh and decide. “MARXISM DIDN’T invent Capitalism or socialism — all Marxist science did was to dis cover social laws and interpret them to mean that the eventual form would be socialism of some type.’’ Hall said. He often expressed his ideas through the use of a metaphor reading the soil for the growth of socialism. "Revolution cannot be export ed. canno)j be cultivated in a hot house,” he said, “for if the na tive soil is not ready for it, it will not take root. One must study if the soil is ready for it if it is ready for a revolution ary movement like communism.” THE SOIL of the United States is not yet ready for such a sys tem, he said, but historically, every system prepares the soil for the next system. “Capitalism is preparing the soil, and our belief is that eom , rrunism or socialism in some form will be it.” The new system, Hall said, will reflect the experience and back ground of the old. "The American system will have set the pattern. “But," he added,” man cannot reverse the process ... it will move in the direction according to these laws—in the direction of socialism. When the Americans are ready, they will accept it. and theirs will be American solu tions.” HALL ENDED the 30-minute speech portion of his appearance with the statement, “These are my convictions. I am seriously convinced that their laws are true. I do this for no personal gain in fact you do this at great personal risk in this country.” The man who has served six years in Leavenworth prison for conspiracy to overthrow the gov ernment said that according to his figures, should be convicted again under existing laws he will have accumulated a fine of one and one-half million dollars and Faculty Views Gus Hall Speech ■ ■ ■ (Continued from page 1) Hall was an exceptionally clever spokesman. “I THINK he deliberately stat ed points of view which he be lieved would be the least objec tionable.” Schleicher said. "Students should be commend ed heartily for the dignified way in which they conducted them selves.” he commented. SCHLEICHER said that he ob jected most to Hall's belief in the historical inevitability of the rise of Communism. Schleicher said that he thinks that Man has some choice in determining his fu ture. In regard to what he termed ‘‘ideal condition” of high produc tion and a democratic people, the political science professor said that he believes that the people of the United States are better prepared to live under such con ditions. SCHLEICHER said that it would take a highly civilized peo ple to live in a highly civilized ideal state, and he does not be lieve that the use of “Communis tic tactics” would be a part of this state. He said that such tac tics corrupt the ends which the Communists maintain are theirs. Joseph R. Fiszman, a politi cal science instructor who teach es government and politics of the Soviet Union and China, said that Hall did a good job, “within the framework of his thinking.” “OBVIOUSLY American com unism has changed since the time of Foster and Dennis, Hall’s pred ecessors,” Fiszman said. “Under Stalin these people were expect ed to follow' the line. Either this man doesn’t know his line or he is allowed certain freedoms.” Recalling specific examples, Fiszman said that Hall’s com ment that Cuba is moving too fast toward socialism and com munism, “caught me by surprise.” FISZMAN SAID that if a con troversy had not risen “this man would have talked to forty peo ple." Fiszman said that he re sented the carnival atmosphere surrounding the speech area. Lucian C. Marquis, assistant professor of political science, said, “I suppose he made as competent a presentation as he could," Marquis continued. The political science teacher said that he disagreed with the “notion that there is something scientific or inevitable about the communist political process.” “WHAT HE was presenting was ‘the line,’ ’’ the assistant pro fessor said. “I don’t think the facts jibe. For instance, look at the role Lenin played in the Rus sian Revolution. If it hadn't been for him there might not have been a revolution.” Concerning the question and answer period that followed the speech, Marquis said, “T h e ques tions generally were pretty stu pid.” He explained that he thought the phrasing used in the questions made them “loaded” and difficult to answer. "It’s like ask ing ‘when did you stop beating your mother-in-law?’,” he said. HE FL’KTHEK commented about Hall’s answers, “It’s like ; talking to somebody who is dog matically convinced he has the right religion.” He said that he thought that many students also j attended the speech with the at titude that their minds were al ready made up. "I’m glad the students couia hear him and see that he didn't have horns,” Marquis said. HEKBEKT BIS NO, an assoc i i ate professor of sociology who teaches a political sociology class said, "Hall presented his po sition relatively well.” He said that he thought that the speech was mostly in line with traditional Marxist thought. Bisno said that although he was in a section where he could not always hear everything, he thought that the question and an | swer period went "rather well.” ‘ THE QUESTIONS asked were ones he would find challenging to answer from his point of view,” Bisno said. The sociology teacher said that it appeared that the questions came from people who were large ly critical of Hall’s point of view. between 600 and 700 years in pris jn terms. "But don't laugh too hard,” he warned the chuckling crowd, “I air a healthy man and may live that long and get out.” DI KING THE question and an swer period. Hall answered some 15 questions submitted in writing hv members of the audience. A partial list of queries and replies follow: • What is the relationship of the Communist party in the Uni ted States to that in Russia? "There is no relationship. Since the early 1940s. the U.S. party has had no international ties.” • Why does the Iron Curtain keep people from coming to the free world? “I might answer with a ques tion I have asked myself, and I am sure some of you are asking: 'Why d o e s n ' t Gus Hall go abroad?' There are six or seven laws that keep him from getting a passport and doing so. The United States is a showplace for Capitalism that has built itself up for many years. Soviet Russia has only been at it for 40 years. • \\ hy the break between Com munist China and Russia? "I wouldn't call it a break. U.S. Flag Waves As Red Speaks The speech of U.S. Communist Gus Hail Monday was handled in strikingly different fashion from those of the numerous speakers who visit the University campus periodically. The largest area available for a speech Hayward Field was hurriedly made ready Monday afternoon for his 4 p.m. appear ance, after it was clear that 6,000-seat MacArthur Court could not accommodate the large crowd. Hall was introduced by W. Scott Nobles, Associate profes sor of speech, who listed three reasons why Hall was allowed to speak at the University. Because the University of Ore gon truly believes in freedom of speech. We believe in the strength and superiority of the democratic system. It grows and strengthens with challenges. We believe in the strength and character of our young men and women. One member of the audience waved an American flag as Hall stepped to the microphone. Nobles was introduced by Stu dent Union Board Chairman Jay Jackson, as a representative of the Student Union Forum Com mittee, which, along with the University's Yoting Democrats Club, co-sponsored Hall's appear ance. At the end of the question ses sion, Hall was whisked off the field in a three-wheeled utility scooter, followed by four mounted Sheriff's Deputies. Communist Danger TV Show Topic A one-hour documentary film on a community’s program to un derstand communism will be tele cast at 7:30 p.m. tonight on KVAL-TV, Channel 13. The film, "Town Meeting on Americanism,” includes excerpts of talks by nationally known speakers at a Glendale, Calif., week-long town meeting. Founder of the program, Ben Roth, said Americans can become “immune to communist propa ganda” by learning the techniques and dangers of communism. There are differences, but I see no split. The socialist world will stay united.” • Would a Capitalist be allow ed to speak in Russia as you have been allowed here? "1 am not a spokesman for any group. I speak not for the Com munists of Rumania or Bul garia.” Space Conquest Lecture Topic Willy Ley, noted author and ! authority on space flight, will speak on "The Conquest of Space" today at 1 p.m. in the Student Union Ballroom. According to Lev, “Space ex ; ploration is progressing at such sputnik speed these days that within ten or twenty years space ' flight will be an almost every day occurrence, and the Man in the Moon will be meeting a man or. the moon before the end of the century." LEY HAS written several books including "The Conquest of Space," which was called in many respects the most fascinat ing account of space travel. In 1941 he wrote a book called “The Lungfish, The Dodo and the Uni corn: An Excursion into Roman tic Zoology,” which was a selec tion of the Science Book Club. Seven years later a revision of this work was published and Ley considers it his most successful book among his earlier works. After the first V-2 rocket struck London in World War II, Ley was called in by the U.S. 1 Government for consultation. Me served as a research engineer for the Washington. D.C. Institute of Technology and later as consult ant to the office of technical services of the U.S. Depart ment of Commerce. The new German Rocket So ! ciety, revitalized in West Ger many after World War II, made him an honorary member. He is a Fellow of the British Interplan etary Society, a member of the Institutes of Aeronautical Sci ences, the Society of American Military Engineers and the Amer ican Association for the Advance ment of Science. HE ALSO served as tec hnical advisor to Walt Disney for the Tomorrowland part of the "Dis neyland” television program as well as consultant to the earlier "Space Cadet” program. Dancer to Present Recital, Workshop Daniel N a grin, nationally known dancer and choreographer, will present a solo recital, "Dance Portraits," tonight at 8 p.m. in the University Thea tre. The dance concert will be of fered free to the public as part of the University’s 1962 Festi val of Arts, and Nagrin will ! conduct a dance workshop at the University which will end Feb. 16. A NATIVE New Yorker, Na- j grin has appeared in movies, on Broadway, on television, and as guest artist at all the major dance festivals in America. His concert will range from an impression of Flamenco to jazz, with several selections featuring music composed especially for him. Some of the movements were planned after a trip to the Fiji Islands which Nagrin made in order to choreograph authentic native dances for the Burt Lan caster adventure film, "His Maj esty O’Keefe.” • Do you have, or do you in tend to construct a bomb shel Ler ? "I told my daughter 10 years ago there would never be an atomic war I believe that now more then ever. 1 don’t think bomb shelters go along with that Idea." • Would you sugge st my buy ing a summer home in West Ber lin? I Tnnnswered. • Social science aside ... Is co ercion right ? "Socialism in the long run will be more democratic than any other system now existing." • Mow do you expect the intel ligentsia to believe half-truths when the Communists have brok en 52 maior agreements in the past 40 years? "I don't expect them to. l don't expert my fellow Americans to believe me, but these are my hon est convictions. There has been breaking of commitments from all sides. History will show that." • How do you explain the weaknesses of the U.8. Commu nist Party? “They reflect the realities of the soil we work In." • Why have Stalin's images been destroyed? "Stalin made a wrong predic tion when he said Communism would win in 20 years There were serious weaknesses under his lead ership that go into questions of democracy and Individual rights." • Are you behind Castro’s reign of terror? “Cuba is able to chart its own destiny. It Is moving in the di rection of socialism maybe a lit tle too quickly." ... Bomb Scares (Continued front pai/e I) been placed under the platform from which Hall spoke. "That's what those detectives were check ing while Hall was talking." said Eugene Police Chief H. A. Ells worth. There was no bomb under the platform. It w'as emphasized by both the •Johnson Hall spokesman and Stu dent Union Director 3i Ellingson that the bomb scares had nothing to do with the changing of the locale of Hall's speech. "Mac Court can only hold about 6.000 people during a speed),” said Student Union Director Si Ellingson, "and it became obvious that the crowd would be of such proportions that Mac Court would not hold the audience." THE CROWD lias been esti mated at roughly 11,(KM), a new record for attendance of a speech at the University. "IT’S PROBABLY just as well that the speech will be outside," said another administrator from Johnson Hall. "Out here any stink bombs will dissipate faster.” Despite the size of the crowd, however, not a single instance of rowdiness w'as reported. The same number of policemen usually present at basketball games was present along with the mounted posse from the Lane County Sheriff's office. Neither the Sheriff's office nor the Eugene police department re ported any disorders at the speech. Oregctna Pickup Starts Today Distribution of tin- Kail term edition of the Oregana will start today from 2 p.m. to 5 p.m. in Room 101 of the SU. Those who still possess their receipts may pick up their books today. Those who have lost their receipts must wait until Wednesday.
