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7 OREGON WELCOMES J.J. HILLAND PARTY CHARACTERISTIC PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE EMPIRE BUILDERT THE SUNDAY OREGOXIAIC PORTLAND. NOVEMBER 9. 1913. Banquet at Commercial Club Informal Affair and Large ly Attended. VALLEY TRIP IS ON TODAY Transportation Club to Hear Ad dress by "Empire Builder" Tomorrow Oregon Trunk In spection May Be on Tapis. ' fContlnuca From First pgc who had an army of nothing but Brig adier-Generals. "Now these laboring men must have homes and there In a limit to what they can pay for their homes. Iieal estate Is too hig-h. You can't gret peo. pie to live on it at present prices." He told of several instances in which excessive real estate values have retarded development and severe ly criticised owners of timber land who try to gret two profits out of their investments. "I remember." he said, "when they could buy all the timber they wanted for 15 cents to t cents a thousand. Now they are selling it for $3 a thou sand. And after that they try to take another profit and sell the logged-off area for J15 to $20 an acre. I don't think the bare Central Oregon land is worth anything like $15 or $20 an acre. Land Must Be Priced RiR-bt. "Your land must bo priced to attract the homebullder and there is no more laudable ambition than that of home building. Every nation that has neg lected the land has ceased to be a na tion," and e cited the cases of Baby lon. Nlnevah and others. Sicily once was a great grain-producing country, he pointed out. Then Home started to. levy grain tributes and now the people of Sicily are scattered through out the length and breadth of the United States as railroad laborers. "We are too apt to forget," he ds clared, "that unaer the, cultivation o the land and fh successful preserva tion of its fertllltv we stand or fall. To neglect the land, then go back an4 ra store the fertility is a long and weary road." He pointed to the fact that Germany, after centuries of cultivation, is getting better results from its land today than ever before. This is due to proper cul tivation. England recently started to restore fertility to its .poll, but it took BO years to increase the wheat J'ield per acre from 25 bushels to 32 bushels. Belgium, he said, had increased its wheat yield from 25 bushels to 39 bush els per acre. Were the United States to (lo as much it would produce .1,300. 000, 000 bushels and have C00,000io00 bush els for export. Wheat then would sell at 50 cents a bushel making the price cf living cheaper. "But what of the farmer? you may esk," he suggested. "The farmer would not have to sell wheat. "You can't keep up the fertility of the soil without livestock," he suggested as a use for excess grain. "There l& no fertilizer like barnyard manure, and in spite of this situation we have 19,000, 000 fewer head of livestock in this country today than we had 23 years ago. And we have 27,000,000 more peo ple. Were we to start, today to spe cialize in livestock we couldn't get enough of It to meet the demand in 23 years." He declared that a cow properly cared for Is worth $100 a year and said that he has demonstrated this fact on his own farm. WarnluK an to Rullroaua Given. Then drifting into a discussion of the railroad situation he asserted that un less the hostile sentiment of Legisla tures, commissions and some classes of people Is changed the railroads will be forced into the hands of the courts, which may lead to Government owner ship, and Government ownership, he prophesied, would be "the end of free government in America." He referred to the fact that the rail roads are owned by many individuals and that for the Government to deprive these individuals of their property would be unjust and unfair. The Great Northern, he pointed out. is owned by 20,000 distinct persons, 9000 of whom are women and children. - The average noiaing is less than 111,000 "Any man who suggests that the Gov ernment take this property away from these people is dishonest." he declared "Would these same men permit the Gov ernment to take their property away irom mem 7 He told something of the history of the Great Northern, of the work of financing the property and of the fact that they "never sold $1 of stock that was not paid for by 100 cents. Every cent went into the property. "If the valuation which the Govern ment is taking of the railroads in the country is taken honestly the figures will be much more than tho par value of the stocks and bonds together. I know that In the case of the Great Northern we are paying taxes on $112. 000.000 more than we- have stocks and bonds." He related some of his experiences In trying to Introduce livestock into North Dakota, and told, amid laugh ter, how the farmer to whom he had given a prize-winning boar for breed ing purposes cut him up for Christmas pork. Livestock, he repeated. Is one of the principal foundations upon which the prosperity of a nation is built. Den mark, ho pointed, with an area of only 16,000 square miles, feeds more than 2,600.000 people and exports ?8 worth of food products per ac,re. The state of Oregon doesn't grow $S worth per acre. In Minnesota and North Dakota Mr. Hill and his associates have tried to increase the grr.in yield by giving the farmers the seed, paying them $8 an acre to grow it on their own land and giving them the crop. "And we find." he continued, "that they tried to cheat themselves by not following our Instructions. Farnnt Munt Help Self. "Now, If the farmer won't help him self with that kind of assistance I'll leave him to the Almighty. I can't help him any more than that. "There are two things I've learned about the farmer. He isn't as stupid as he thinks he is and he isn't as honest us he claims he Is." Mr. Hill, when introduced, was given a vicoferous demonstration that con tinued for many minutes. Men stood up and waved their napkins and shouted. He smilingly stood back and beckoned with hta hand for them to be seated and be quiet. (? Sharing honors with Mr." Hill and Mr. Hannaford were Oeorge F. Baker, president of the First National Bank of New York: Louis W. Hill, chairman of the Great Northern board; George B. Harris, chairman of the Chicago, Bur lington & Qulncy board; It. A. Jackson, OTlfiMT" ""' '" : ' ' - - i : - ' v! r- 'As- " - - if -jt - X 7 ' - : v- - M i i ji -ji .;;:J t vice-president of the Great Northern; A. L. Ordean, of Duluth; F. A. Cham berlain, of Minneapolis; Pierce Butle'r, of St. Paul, and Grenville Kane, of New York. While the reception and Informal banquet that followed were given under the auspices of the fortland Commercial Club, every section of the state shared In the honor of entertain ing Mr. Hill, Mr. Hannaford and the members of their party. Reception la Unique. From the time that the Hill party arrived in the city, late in the afternoon, until after the dinner last night, they were subject to continuous attention. The climax came at the reception which began as soon as Mr. Hill and the others entered the green room of the Commercial Club. Hundreds of persons who were unable to obtain seats In the banquet room formed In line and filed quietly by the veteran railroad build er for the mere opportunity of grasp ing his hand and uttering a word of welcome. The crush in the ha-is and In the big reception room at times pre sented dangers of sweeping the hon ored guests off their feet. Attaches of the, club were required to give assist ance in relieving the strain. Although arrangements had been made Increasing the seating capacity of the big dining-room, many were turned away. Even then more than 400 persons sat down to the table. It was a popular-priced dinner and soon was over. There were no formali ties. There were representatives pres ent from nearly every county In the state. Including many from the Wil lamette "Valley and Central Oregon. Valley Trip Planned Today. Mr. Hill and his party will take a trip up the Valley to Eugene today, traveling over the Oregon Electric, which is a part of the Hill system. J. H. Young, president of the local Hill lines, and other local officials will ac company them. ' Mr. Hill has accepted the invitation to address the Transportation Club at a noon luncheon at the Multnomah Hotel tomorrow. W. A. Robblns. president of the club, will preside. Mr. Hill probably will leave Portland Monday afternoon. and will Inspect the Oregon Trunk j the road that he built up the Deschutes Valley a few years ago, and which now terminates at Bend. This road. It is reported, is destined eventually to become a part of a main line into California. The party will return east ward over tho Northern Pacific, prob ably tr-avellng back this way as far as Vancouver, Wash, and Tacoma. Edgar B. Piper, president of the Com mercial Club, presided over the ban quet tables last night. Hannaford Iliac Rapid. George F. Johnson, chairman of the executive committee of the Commercial Club, introduced Mr. Hannaford, presi dent of the Northern Pacific Railway, referring to the development of the railway business in the Northwest and to the fact that In the year the golden spike was driven in the Northern Pa cific line across the continent Mr. Han naford was a clerk In the offices in St. Paul and that his rise to the presidency had come as the reward for years of persistent and efficient service. Mr. Hannaford said tiat he could not say at this time what more lines might be built In this state by the Northern Pacific. He pointed out that the cost of building and maintaining railway lines is increasing steadily and that the returns are not keeping pace with It. This, he said, coupled with legis lative interference and with the diffi culty In securing means for railway extension, make it difficult to look for ward to extensive building operations in the near future. "There are no changes, either by leg islation, commission or litigation, that I know of that have not been down ward," he said. "I know of no case in which a rate discrimination was reme died or altered by any other means than reducing. It is always a reduction and never permission to raise the stand ard. "I want to make a success of my position as president of this road. I want you business men to help me. Think the matter over; look fnto It. and see if regulation of railways to a certain extent shouldn't stop. i-et us be permitted to go and conduct and extend our business Just as you do yours, so that we can make & reason able profit; so that we can raise more money to build more roads into Port land, to build up the t. .ate of Oregon. Esrneit Appeal Mado. Colonel C. E. S. Wood, who followed Mr. Hannaford, made an earnest appea. for a united effort on the part of the possessors of wealth to get the poor people the people of the slums in this country and In Europe onto the land. He prefaced his remarks by a num ber of witty anecdotes, some of them at the expense of the elder Mr. Hill.. The "Empire Builder" expressed his delight by hearty laughter. "I' a.m a railroad man myself," an nounced Colonel Wood. "I am president of several paper lines and the Mount Hood stage line.' This is the first time that ever I have been allowed to sit at a banquet with my peers. Here I am sandwiched in between James J Hill and Jule Hannaford." He then cast pleasing reference to George F. Baker, the New York banker who is a member of Mr. 11111 a party. He told next of his meeting last night wtth tho newsboy who brings his evening papers. "Well, what's the news tonight?" he said he asked the lad. "Deres lots o news, replied the youth excitedly. "Christy Matthewson and de Gl'nts Is comin an' Jim Hill de um pire." -Hat Off to 'Mr. Hill. "So you see," said Colonel Wood, "Mr. Hill is known best as an empire builder as a farmer and not as railroad man, As a farmer I ta.ke off my hat to him. Colonel yfpoA, closed' with a forensic r J A "i Ilttirl i ,,, ; ., j ".. ." . - : Jamea J. Hill. appeal to his fellow men to aid In a movement" that will result In the ulti mate equitable distribution of tbe land among all classes of people. "No man is worthy of the name who lives for self alone," he declared. Public Get Scoring. W. D. Fenton, general counsel for the Southern Pacific, aroused intense excitement and enthusiasm in a burn ing denunciation of wnat he charac terized as "the disposition of the American people to make war upon the property in any form."" "There is no more competition in rates in the United States," he said. "The only legitimate competition that exists today is in service and the sooner the public recognizes this the better for it. "Under the present system of limita tions and quasl-operation of the rail road business by the Government, we have reached the period when monopoly of some sort must become an economic fact. It is Just as inevitable as the fact that the future is upon us. There is only one alternative, and that Is what the shippers, the business men and the industries of the United States all fear Government ownership. Money Can't Be Secured. "I was greatly Interested In some of the statements made :by President Hannaford before me, and I will say that the sentiments he expressed will be re-echoed In the money marts of the whole country. Money cannot be had for the extension of railway systems in the United States. . "The transportation system of the United States will bieaK down Inside of a decade unless great extensions and constructions of equipment and ter minal systems can be made. This can not be done until the credit of the rail roads can be improved; not in the money centers of England, or France or Germany, but in New York and the money centers of the United States." "He is right," said James J..-,Hill, turning to the toastmaster. Mr. Fenton pointed to the electric system which was contemplated In the Willamette Valley, noting that when the first unit was completed work came to a standstill because money could not be obtained save at an exorbitant rate of interest. What of Future? Ia Asked. "You may say that the railways brought it upon themselves," he said. "But it is not for you to twit us with evils of the past. The all-important question is: What of the future?" He declared that the excessive tax levies upon railway properties have made practically impossible further ex tension to the railways to serve dis tricts which are in vital need of trans portation service. Continual interfer ence by legislation and by Various com missions, bringing nearer and nearer a condition of operatio'rrf the railways by the Government, he declared, has paralyzed their credit. Mr. Baker Wins Eulogy. George F. Baker, president of the First National Bank of New York, was introduced with a glowing eulogy by the toastmaster, but at his own request made no speech. L. W. Hill In his address intimated the probability of the extension In the near future of the activities of the Hill interests into martne lines. Describing the lines by which the Hill .interests had come into Oregon he compared them on, the map to the figure of a "seven-legged spider." "The map of our lines makes a pretty fair seven-legged spider," he said. "You can conceive also, then, of a 10 or a 12 legged spider and perhaps of a spider that travels also on the. water. In due time it will probably be a centipede on the map instead of a spider. Mr. Hill praised the development ac tivities in the state unstintingly, giv ing great credit to the Commercial Club and the men who have been "ac tive In Its work. Tribute Paid to Portland. "I have always Bald," he remarked, "that Portland manufactured Its own prosperity, and here you have one of the most eflicient organizations in the united states for that purpose." . He paid high tribute to the Bankers' Asawmuuu lot us enona in securing the passage of the bill for extension of agricultural education In the state, and praised the worlc of the Cattle Loan Association which In the past two years has advanced about 18,000,000 for the assistance of the farmers. The busi ness men of the Portland Commercial Club and " the Oregon Development League he declared to be chiefly re sponsible for the growth and prosper ity of the state. "You have seen far enough ahead to realize." he said, "that you need to do more than bring more . barbers and taxicab drivers and truckmen to the city: but that you must bring in people to the lands of the whole state." Those present were as follows: .Tames J. Hill Edgar B. Piper J. M. Hannaford A. I.. Ordean R. A. Jackson J. H. Young W. 3. Prichard A, G. Pearson . F. W. Robinson F. A. Chamberlain Oeorne B. Harris Pierce Butler W. D. Fenton ,1. A. Killing R. Q. Faulkner Lee Boyer John Pearson I. C. Sanford William' Gadsby. William McMurray C E. S. Wood Greenville Kane A. H. Averlll W. S. Wharton . J. D. Gordon Alfred Parkhurst F. J. Leonard Georire F. Anderson -C. F.Hendrlckson R. H. Noyes Charles Crogster A M. Benson C. W. Stinger J. Russell Cnarles L. Clarity S. C. Pier, Jr. H. K. Vernon H. C. Clair J. E. Wheeler H. A. Conner Charles A. Hart H. E. Iounsbury David Goodsell, Jr. T. S. Mann It. W. Foster E. F. Riley- F. A. Pell T. I. Robinson Robert Martyn H. A. Calef J. E. Oates P. S. Brumby Clinton H. Brown E. Versteeg P. H. Edlefeen J. N. Edlefsen George J. Perkins Howard Teel William Grelg J. C. Ainsworth F. TV. Hlld O. M. Clark A. P. Knapp Charles H. Carey Hy Ellers John M. Scott George F. Baker Louis W. Hill 9. F. Johnson W. H. Woodworth C. H. Fltxpatrick C. C. Colt B. C. Darvall Anthon Eckern Emery Olmstead James B. Kerr M. F". Brady J. B. Yeon A. P. Bateham George H. Smitton S. C. Pier Joseph Woerndle Otto Breyman W. a. Holford E. F. Lawrence W. D. Skinner Leo J. Flynn R. B. Miller Ellas Brong Edward Lyons L. M. Scott Charles Basey L. B. Wlckersham W. O. Wilkes Per'y M. Robinson H. H. Prouty O. W. Taylor C. S. Russell Frnk P. Russell 8. H. Mann C. H. Holbrook Peter Autzen A. tt. Edlefsen T. A. Ketchum C. A. Coolldge C. S. Loveland George Lawrence, Jr. F. C. Knapp Scott Bozorth Kingman BrewBter I. A. Peters L. E. Kern T. Imng Potter Charles G. Briggs J. Durkhelmer Leo Friede W. B. Streeter Edwin N. Welnbaum W. L. Crlssey William Harder Floyd BUyeu F. 1. Jones, P. Lowengart John H. Hall F. H. Fogarty E. C. Griffin Frank S. Grant J. W. Sweeney J. B. Yeonjr. Nathan Strauss W. B. Mackay H. H. Griffin J. J. Wilson E. K. Eldredge C. P. Chamberlln H. A. Holmes R. B. French Warren P. Smith Knud Roald George S. Cole David N. Mosessohn John S. Beall F. Watson H. L. Keats Lorlng K. Adams Alexander Mulr A. M. Wright A. C. Sheldon C. M. Fowler 0. P. Fisher M. C. Banfleld ' O. A. Rltan E. C. Robblns C. T. Hoge Dr. J. H. Neagle A. B. Manley C. E. Cochran T. J. Armstrong J. D. Kenworthy George R. Wilbur F. W. Cady D. Gray H. E. Mooney F. E. Taylor Edgar H. Sensenlch A. C. Adams Frank S. Torrey Frank W. Howell Dwlght Edwards N. U. Carpenter C. F. Berg Frark A. Ryder . S. Ju!lua Mayer George P. Lent F. A. Ross F. C. Stettler C. H. Dexter J. A. Ormandy H. H. Jerkins W. H. Maloy Joseph A. Boyce ' Alex Nltley J F. Daly XV. M. Daly T. J. Baldwin F. Alexander C. L. Cutther It. H. Keck W. O. Roberts F. C. Savage James Mcl. Wood L. A. West Truman Butler Ji-mes Cole John Dickson 1. M. Walker F. A. Bell H. H. Newhall O. P. Dabney .W. L. Clark H. C. Weatherby Wells Gilbert H. ?J. Burpee F. H. Ransom X. Pearson -T. Hart Gardner R. A. Goodhuo' Gordon B. Raymond D. B. Hill w. W. Cotton H. -P. Thompson B. F. Irvine Lloyd W. McDowell J. E. Mahaney A. E. Hutchinson L. F. Wakefield Will A. Carter G. B. Mcl.eod W. H. Kline H. J. Houghton Robert E. Wilson O. E. Helnts J. Curtis Robinson M. C. George Jerome Blals4el1 Howard R. Shroyer J. E. Roae e. F. Wilson E. A. Dudley T. H. Beverly Alex M. Lupfer R. J. Hendricks Charles I. Mahaf fie P. A.BInford W. G. Hendricks r. W. Brlggs J. P. Jaeger W. P. Prlndle B. Glldner , John W . Alexander I. M. Cummins M. J. Duryea B. E. Lytle Clifford F. Reid Uimbert Duoblu E. Ehmiaa Jsy Smith W. Reldt W. H. Carroll M. T. Eastharn Thomas E. Sweeney B. E. Coovert Donald Mackay . W. H. Ormsby W. H. Jaynes A. F. Harvey John W. Geary J. D. Lee Clarence E. Moulton Walter C. Smith F. Bleld R. Willlamsen Oliver Lynch M. Mosessohn Walter E. Xorland J. H. Page C. M. Menzles C. P. Bishop R. J. Stewart O. E. Overbeck F. M. Baura . H. O. Baker A. T. Bonney J. P. Rasmussen J. W. Mlnto W. P. Stranborg Shad O. Krantz Horace D. Ramsdell Dr. F. E. Moore W. H. Faylo Samuel J. Kerr Dr. W. A. Wise R. L. Tucker J. Frank Stroud W. O. Moore G. B. Hegardt H. W. Hawkins Ernest C. Smith F. A. Freeman James B. Bradshaw Frank C. Rlggs H. Gordon W. J. Hofmann Dr. G. S3. Breltllng Robert Tucker M. Monte Mayer A. C. Martin R. F. Ross W. C. Francis R. H. Crozier H. E. Jenkins George D. Schall J. H. Ewen Owen Summers H. G. Beck with alter Mackay S. S. Hewitt M. G. Munly R. A. Chapln J. O. Freck H. Sheedy Edgar E. Frank I. A. Yerex F. A. Nltchy George Dysort Jumps F. Bell Frank E. Dooly Charles E. Gray B. Pratt W. N. Downing George H. Bell R. Yount, of Rainier R. E. Scott Otto J. Kraemer Edward Cooklngham D. C O'Reilly Sanderson Reed W. E. Coman S. T. Woolley T. 8. Townsend L P. Campbell J. B. Mlddleton J. C Potter L. B. Seeley D. H. D'Arcy A. L. Fish J. H. Mulchay T. H. Comerford E. L. Van Dresar C. M. McConnall -Charles O. Beckwlth Arthnr Collett P. E. Stowell A. King Wilson W. H. McMonles George L. Cherry C. Em 11 Force Ralph Blalsdell Herbert C. Miller a. C. Hmrbolt J. M. Bkrsble J. P. Wtntar Kueeiie Mans Entertainment. EUGENE, Or., Nov. 8 (Special.) J, Look at this Illustration here It's One of the, New' HART SCHAFFNER & MARX models, large, roomy,, belt-back ef- feet, Avith large shawl collar. You'll find others he"re in the more con servative styles. For the young -fellows we have just the Coat that ,.will suit you box back, belt back, raglan shoulder and shawl collar. ; . - For older men, , the conservative styles. Makes..' lio - difference what style of fabric you want, you 11 find it here.- Hart Schaffner & Marx Overcoats and Suits. $20 to $40 Others $15, $18 and $20 Gabardine Raincoats, Cravenette Raincoats, Rubberized" Woolen Raincoats, $15 to $30 Sam'l Rosenblatt & Co. The Men's Shop for Quality and Service Northwest Corner Third and Morrison J. Hill and party are expected to ar rive in Eugene at about noon on what will be Mr. Hill's first trip of Inspec tion of the Oregon Electric bb It is ex tended to Eugene. The Commercial Club Is planning- to give a fitting- recep" tlon to the railroad men. including au tomobile trips to the University, Springfield and adjacent territory in which Intensive farming is conducted. SAVING $160. We will accept your check for 5215 for a splendid new 1376 piano this week at Graves Music Co, Removal, 111 Fourth st Adv. Ijevy Wants to Succeed Root. WASHINGTON. Nov. 8. Representa tive Levy, of New York, announced to day that he would be a candidate to succeed Senator Root at the primaries next Fall. He declined to say whether he would retire as a Congressional can didate. Dickson Ships Cattle. ECHO, Or., Nov. 8. (Special.) GeorgeJ. Dickson, of Prineville, today shipped 18 carloads of stock cattle from here to his home farm. The cattle were shipped via Terrebonne, on the O.-W. R. & N. Company's line. Up to Suce BUSINESS AND TRADE SCHOOLS Advertising 915.00 Assaying 80.00 Automobile .... . BLOO Bookkeeping. S.OO Carpentry 10.W) Electricity 17.50 Pharmacy 80.0o J'lan Reading - Cost Engineering 15.00 Reinforced Concrete Construction .... 20.00 Salesmanship 20. OO Show Card "Writing. 12.00 Shorthand tt.OO Surveying and Mapping...., 10.00 Telegraphy and Dispatching 12.00 Typewriting 6.00 Wireless Telegraphy Bo.oo Architectural Drawing 7.SO Freehand Drawing 7.5U Mechanical Drawing 7.50 Boys' School 4.oo Accountancy (fall course) 9150.00 Call or send for catalogue Y. M.- C. A. Day and Night Schools. Telephone Main 7065. A 6661. Art and rBrj11iancy- Come to every residence wliere our lighting fixtures, reading lamps and fireplace appliances are installed. It will be to your interest to consult ufl. ' M. J. Walsh Co. 311 STARK STREET, ltoth Phones. Everything: Electrical Installed We are 7 years old Tuesday. It will be a day you 11 remember. la Portland's Exclusive Garment Shop for Women. I Copyright Hart Schaffner & Mirt SELLING OUT ENTIRE STOCK 1 Moore Shoe Company 383 E. Morrison St., Bet. Union and Grand Ave. A Mighty lO Days' Sale Monday the 4th Day of This Great Success Men's, Women's and Children's Shoes AT Absolute Wholesale Cost and Less Save $1.00 to $3.00 on Every Pair LESS THAN ONE YEAR IN BUSINESS The newest and best stock of Shoes ever on sale in this city. The latest styles only. All sizes. Just the Shoes you want. Come sure. OPEN EVENINGS At the urgent request of hundreds of people who cannot get to this store during regular hours, on account of the location, the store will remain open each evening until 8 o 'clock. To Reach This Sale Take any car that crosses Morrison Bridge. Get off at Grand Ave. Sale at 383 E. Morrison, Bet. Union and Grand Avenue Modern Language School (Night) (Open to Men and Women.) ERM4X. KKKM'H, COMMERCIAL. SfAXISII. I.lve Tencbera. Successful Methoda. Y. M. C. A. DAY AND XIUHT SCHOOLS, Sixth and Taylor Street.. Telephone Main 70A.1. A 65Q1. REMOVED TO EltJHTH FLOOR iiftO) Laue-Davis Drug Co. THIRD AMD YAMHILL. CARRY THE) BEST QUALITY or Elastic I Hosiery o AXKI.ETS. KXKB CAPS A U AHUOMIAI, sirroHTKin Sena for Men.urlnc lllank anil Price. 4.