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1 TTTR WQ-RXTXO OKTOOyTAV. TTTES'DAY. NOVTOrBER 11. 1913. TOURISTS FIND FEW PROMISING PLAYERS Callahan Predicts ' Baseball Material Will Be Made in Schools. president; Thomas Hopgood, vice-president; R. J. Hilts, secretary; J. M. Bell, treasurer; P. J. Orr and J. M. Schidel, physical directors, and C. W. Wlnsberg, J. A. Strong and C. H. Nelson, trustees, of the newly-organized Morton Athletic Club. Upwards of 30 have enrolled as members. SCOUTS SCOUTING IN VAINj "Ivory Hunters" Unable to Pick "Cp Big League Timber $10,000 Of fered for Producing Another Johnnie Kling Player. f BY CHRISTY MATHEWSON. ' (The Qlant'a Star Pitcher.) In every small town visited since moving out of the big league belt on this trip, a flock of local lights In the baseball world have come to the park end practiced with the Giants and the "White Sox before the games. Both Callahan and McGraw encourage this practice, and it is announced before the games that local semi-professionals and amateurs will be welcome. Said McGraw the other night, after watch ing a bunch of these at work: "This Is the most thorough comb ing I have given the country In years, and I believe that good ball players are becoming scarcer, while the de mand for the high-class man is grow ing greater season by season. I haven't had a glance at any strangers who looked like players since we left Chicago." "In a few years," declared Callahan, T believe you will find a school to develop men for the big leagues. The supply must come from some place." "All these birds that have practiced around the parks have some fault which prevents them from ever being the right sort of timber. Most of them are slow, and none seem to think," asserted McGraw. "T guess the scouts are right when they keep reporting they can't find any more Cobbs or Mathewsons," concluded Callahan. Vlg Prise Goes Begging. ' "When John Kling threatened to quit the Chicago Cubs just as he was at the top of his career several years ago and acted as If he were going to make his decision stick by staying in Kan sas City and managing his pool parlor after the season started, Charles Mur phy is reported to have called three or four scouts around him and said: "I'll give $10,000 to the man -who goes out and digs me up another Johnnie Kling." The scouts, veterans of many years of Ivory hunting, simply laughed at the Chicago boss and replied in chorus: "There ain't one. We've been all over the country, and we know.'.' "Dick" Kinsella, who has been scout ing for the Giants for several years, is of the same opinion as McGraw and Callahan. He does not believe that good material is as plentiful as it was ten years ago. or else the standard demanded of the players is higher. He admits that competition is keen in this scouting business and that, whenever some minor leaguer flashes above the surface, nn army of scouts scatter into the "bushes" to get Ijlm. "Dick" was telling me a story recently that won a laugh. Kinsella Shops for Busher. "There was a big scramble for an outfielder with the Milwaukee club latt season," said "Dick," "and I float ed up there with five or six rival scouts to bid on this bird. I never had seen him before and so went out to the park to take a look at the chap before going shopping for him, where the sale looked as if it would be anything but a bargain. He did not look fast to me in action, and so I dug into his record,' which disclosed that he had stolen only eight or nine bases, although it wus late in the Beason. Now, McGraw likes an outfielder who can cover the ground when on the bases. That is how he wins most of his games. " 'Thi3 fellow has stolen only eight or nine bases,' said I to Mrs. Havenor, the owner of the clulj. 'It seems as if an outfielder should be faster than that.' "She was there with the comeback. " 'Well, you see,' she said, "he hits eo many doubles and triples and home runs that he does not get many chances to steal.' " 'If I were you, I'd tip him to hit R few singles, I suggested, 'so these puouts can get a line on how he runs the bags-' "I ilJ not- bid for that fellow." In telling this story about Kinsella. I have purposely omitted the name of the outfielder because he afterwards brought a whopper of a price from a big league club and gained a lot of publicity. Probably most of my read ers can guess who the man was, how ever. Kinsella does not say he was right in his Judgment of the player. In fact, he concluded the story by ad mitting this much: "I may have been' wrong about the man, but it was up to me to lean on my own Judgment, and I couldn't see more than the draft price for the bird." The player's showing since he en tered the big league has been a big boost for Klnsella's judgment. One Scout Is Pessimist. Searching for ball players is a funny business. No manager can afford to overlook tips, yet every manager re ceives thousands of worthless ones from his followers that cannot be run down. Kinsella is a conservative scout. He recommends few youngsters, and It Is this about him that McGraw likes. Most scouts are natural prospectors, and a gold prospector is the greatest optimist In the world. "Dick" is a pessimist. McGraw once sent Dan Uiouthers, the old first baseman, out to look at Larry Doyle and Fred Mer kle before they Joined the Giants. Mc Graw had arranged to take these two anyway. "And Dan," he said, as the big fellow Was leaving, "if you see anybody else out that way who looks good to you, tmb him." Brouthers thought he had to bring back a great many to make good, so he arranged for nearly every minor leaguer ha took a look at to report at Marlln the next Spring. "As baseball players, these were all great farm hands," declared McGraw, after giving the bunch the once over. (Copyright, 1913, by The Wheeler Syn dicate, Inc.) SCOTT KAXS 9 ; SPEAKER HOMES Giants Take 4-3 Snappy Game From White Sox at San Diego. SAN DIEGO, Nov. 10. The exhibition game today between the White Sox and Giants was won by the latter by a score of 4 to 3. The game was snappy and abounded In brilliant plays. Scott, for the White Sox, struck out nine men. Tris Speaker made a home run in the second Inning. The Giants won' In the last half of the ninyj, when Chief Meyers sent the ball over the right Held fence for a home run. The score: R. H. E. R. H. E. White Sox.. 9 3GIants. . ..4 9 1 Batteries Scott and Bliss; Hearne and Myers. Albany Elevens W ill Meet. - ALBANY". Or., Nov. 10. (Special.) A football game in which there will be great local interest will be played here Tuesday afternoon, when the teams of the Albany High School and Albany College will meet. The college has taken up football this year after a lapse of several years. POLO DATE IS CHANGED GAME! tftf WATER WILL BE PLAYED WEDNESDAY RIGHT. Multnomah Club-Swimming; Association Arrange Second Contest of Series. . Soclnl Affair Xonlcht. Because of a conflict with the Pacific Coast boxing championships, the date of the second Jwater polo game between the Multnomah Club and the Portland Swimming Association has been changed from Friday to Wednesday night The regular bi-monthly social swim will take place tonight. One of the features will be an exhibition 'water polo game between the men and women of the club. The water polo game between the two clubs on Wednesday night will be played at the Portland baths. This will be the second of a series of nine games for a pennant. Multnomah took the first game, played last Friday, by one goal. The game has been the subject of much Interest. The teams are not yet adept in it and several of the swim mers have had to get out of the water because of exhaustion before the halves were over. The 'game is hard, for whether the player Is actively engaged in the scrim mage for the ball or merely waiting for a chance in his territory he must swim every minute that he in the water. Both lineups will be changed some what. They follow: Portland Ass'n. Multnomah Club. L. Ketchura RF Kiernan Bow en LP A. Mattern Roller C F. ....... . Lundstrom McHalo OK Wheeler Sullivan G McMurray Rosengreen . -LG .............. . Ross Byrnes KG Thatcher The Multnomah substitutes either will be Blbee, McMahon. Taite or Spamer. Telegraphic Sporting Briefs PRINCETON, N. J. The Prince ton football eleven, which had been recuperating from the Harvard game at Atlantic City, returned to Princeton today and indulged in a short signal drill. All the regulars were In the lineup, with J. S. Baker at Shea's place at right end. The men are in good condition. Philadelphia The University of Pennsylvania football team began prep arations today for the game with Mich igan at Ann Arbor next Saturday. With the exception of Captain Minds, who was somewhat lame from the Dart mouth game Saturday, all the players are in good condition. Minds will re port for practice tomorrow. Chicago The low score by the Uni versity of Chicago against Northwest ern University .football team last Sat urday inspired Northwestern players to the hope of defeating the University of Indiana next Saturday. Coaches be gan today a week of practice which they said would be the hardest since the season began. Lawrence, Kan. The Kansas Univer sity football squad was given secret practice today in preparation for the game with Nebraska next Saturday. The coaches put the men through a stiff scrimmage. The list of injured players is decreasing and it is believed all the regulars will be able to line up against Nebraska. Preparations are be ing .made to accommodate the largest crowd in many years. Several special trains will be run from Kansas City. Football Excitement Fatal. ST. LOUIS. No. 10. Overwrought by the excitement of a soccer football game, at which he was cheer leader, Raymond Garcia, a Spaniard, fainted while watching the game here yester day and died a few minutes later. LOBER WON'T BO UP Southpaw Wants More Coast League Experience. OHF SATISFIED WITH BEAVERS When Outfielder Refuses) to Go to Majors, Cleveland Clnb Decides to Give Captain Bill Rod gers Big League Trial. LOS ANGELES, Cal.. Nov. 10. (Spe cial.) Elmer Lober, the young left hander, whom Henry Berry traded to Walter McCredle last season for Art Krueger, has positively refused to Join the Cleveland club In the American League. Lober is one of the few base ballists who have refused the oppor tunity to go to the majors. He was in Los Angeles today visiting Walter Leverenz. He was asked about' the report that he refused to join the Cleveland club and he confirmed the story that ap peared in the North. "I need another year's experience In the Pacific Coast League," candidly said Lober. "If I go up to Cleveland next Spring there is a big chance that I will be sent to some bush team for more experience, but with another year's work in the Pacific Coast League I think I will be able to hold my own in any company." Lober Is planning to play In the Im perial Valley League this Winter. He is well satisfied with his berth on the Portland club. Cleveland wanted Lober from Port land, and as the Beaver outfielder re fused to go, the Naps decided to give "Bill" Rodgers a chance. SIGXAL PRACTICE IS SECRET Missouri and Washington Universi ties Preparing for Saturday Clash. COLUMBIA, Mo., Nov. 10. Extraor dinary precautions were taken today to insure secrecy at the practice of the University of Missouri football team. This action was the result of the dis covery that the Missouri team's sig nals had been sent to Ames. Coach Williams, of the Iowa School, how ever, returned the signals to Coach Brewer. The Missouri men are In good condition, and it is expected every reg ular will be able to play In the game with Washington University at St. Louis next Saturday. ST. LOUIS, Mo., Nov. 10. Coach Ed munds gave his Washington University football squadtrenuous work this aft ernoon for the game with Missouri here next Saturday. The substitutes re ceived much attention today. ST. LOUIS, Mo., Nov. 10. Luke Kel ly, coach of Christian Brothers' Col lege football team, this afternoon started secret drill for the Notre Dame game here November 22. A student guard was placed about the campus and all strangers, were barred from the field. NEBRASKA TEAM IS CRIPPIED Two Regular Halfbacks Will Not - Play Against Kansas, Coach Says. LINCOLN, Neb., Nov. 10. Although the Nebraska players came through Saturday's game with Wesleyan in good trim there is gloom In the foot ball camp. Coach Stlehm said mis evening it was doubtful if either Purdy or Rutherford, the two regular halfbacks, would be able to enter the Kansas Same next Saturday. Rutherford is still in bed suffering with tonsilitis and while Purdy Is on the field every day and able to prac tice somej his injured knee bothers him and it is feared If he gets Into a scrimmage Jt would mean his retire ment. , y-'T The substitute backs, Delemeter and Elwell, made a good showing against Wesleyan and the coaches will keep every man who is fit at hard practice up to Thursday, when the team leaves for Lawrence. HARVARD ELEVEN HAS REST Full Crimson 'Squad Expected Will Be Out Today for Work. CAMBRIDGE, Mass., Nov. 10. Har vard's varsity eleven rested today after their successful battle against Princeton Saturday. Mahan alone of the regulars ap peared on the field. He did not need any -rest, he said, and practiced punt ing and drop-kicking for half an hour. With the possible exception of Trum bull every member of the varsity squad will be on the field tomorrow. Trum bull is expected to play within a day or two. m- . ipy li our Den 13 . . ' jgk SIS -m Ml DCIJSWMwmm Men's ESa Wl--fi-'4 J 11 'I Men's nHfJ Men's l&t'-M N&l Socks n uteres HOUSTON. Tex., Nov. 10. The Uni versity of Texas tonight claimed the Southwestern football championship lor 1913 as a result of the 14-to-6 vie tory over the University of Oklahoma here today. " SPORT NEWS POT POURRI Multnomah Eleven Strengthens. Determined to take no chances, the Multnomah Club is strengthening Its football team for the big annual Thanksgiving game with Oregon on Multnomah Field. Plxlee, star- end on the University of Missouri eleven, was out In a uniform for the first time playing his old position of right end. More than two full teams were out Sunday and heavy scrimmage work Was dealt In between the first and sec ond teams. A preliminary game is be ing arranged for November 22 with the Vancouver Soldiers, but arrangements have not been completed. Morton Club Elects. MORTON; Wash., Nov. 10. (Special.) i M. Broadbent baa been elected T.ni M'GOVERN, former feather weight champion of the world, made the mistake of his career when he allowed Young Corbett to enter the ring against him at 126 pounds, four pounds ' , over the limit. v " Had not McGov- "is rn given away jf' " - i lose four pounds frg '-ftl3 em tho: for the chance of meeting Young Corbett, a rank C. Juisiuer, lie iiiifsiiL ; have kept his title ., for several years to come. McG o v e r n , has met all of the best boys strictly downed them all. Terry McGovern. That was one of the things whicn made Sam Harris, the manager, take a chance with Corbett, However, the lat ter was considered little more than a workout. Also It was known that he would be a good card at the box office and good opponents were scarce. Terry had had such an easy time with his opponents that few of them would draw on a re turn bout. Young Corbett was the happiest man on earth when. New York influence se cured that match at 126 pounds. Cor bett was a serious and calculating fighter and was really as brainy as any man that ever fought In his class. Corbett had studied McGovern and hoped for a chance. When he entered the ring on that Thanksgiving day he knew what he wanted and got it when he sent McGovern to the floor with a right to the chin. That blow probably ended McGovern's career as champion. Boston yachtsmen are going to edu cate themselves in all the things which make up seamanship. They will be a sort of naval militia not under the su pervision of the Government. They have formed an organization, the object of which is to furnish the Government competent seafarers in time of war. . There is talk of an Indoor baseball league with headquarters at the Ar mory. It's a worthy idea and will prob ably be encouraged. For the thirt- tnird degree baseball fan. football basketball, wrestling, boxing and the iiKe, make the Winter pretty long. The world's series ticket scandal takes a back seat now that the annual football high financing is well under way. lor instance, ticket scalpers in session at the University of California- Stanford game, Saturday, advertised publicly that they had tickets for sale which could be secured for the modest sum of $20 each. That's one way of getting a college education. Any man that can afford to pay that much ought to help tome deserving man through school. Another chapter has been added co the mystery in which Bill Leard stalks as the heavy tragedian. . The Oakland club is ready to sell him to the highest bidder. "Not adhering to original principles." "Want too much" and a few other ex pressions are all that can be gathered from John J. Evers, manager of the Cubs, on Interviews regarding the de mands of the baseball fraternity. Evers kicks at the idea of the baseball fra ternity in demanding that a player sent back to the minors should receive the same money that he did when playing with the big teams. - Frankle Burns draws the line at no one. He has at all times stood ready to nieet any and all that Is to say. all except some that cannot be met for good and sufficient reason. To Buy Where Goods Are the Cheapest and Best This store, on account of its out-of-the-way location, has cut the prices on nearly every article in the en tire store. It may be only a few cents on a pair of socks or a necktie, but it is several dollars saved on a large sale and is well worth walking a few blocks out of the way for, especially when the good quality of the goods has not been changed one bit. 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DRAWS BY PLAYER. matched today to box 20 rounds at Vernon arena the afternoon of Decem ber 13. FEDERALS AFTER JOXES Champion Batter to .Wear Uniform of Detroit Americans to End of Ills Baseball Days. DETROIT. Mich.. Nov. 10. Published. reports that Tyrus Cobb, center fielder of the Detroit American League club, was anxious to be traded, caused Frank J. Navin, president of the Detroit team, to make public today a letter from the champion batsman in wwen uodd said he was anxious to play in Detroit as long as the management and public were willing to have him. Cobb's letter also, indicated there would be no dispute over the terms of his 1914 contract The letter says in part: "I am entirely satisfied with condi tions and I want to end my playing days in Detroit. The fans have treated me fine and I wish to be loyal to my club. "The understanding we reached pleased me immensely and I will sure ly give my heart to playing with De troit next year. I certainly do not want to change." President Navin said the "under standing" referred to concerned Cobb's salary for 1914. Mr. Navin intimated the Georgian would receive the largest salary ever paid to a player in the his tory of baseball. Amateur Athletics. The Ainsworth Grammar School soc cer team downed the Chapman eleven, 2 to- 1, on the West End grounds yes terday. The St. Johns Juniors won from the South ; Portland eleven, 6 to 5, on the South Portland Bottoms yesterday. The losers scored their points on a drop kick and a safety, while the winners made a touchdown. Call East 6041 after 7 o'clock in the evening to ar range a game with the winners. - Because of the withdrawal of sev eral teams from the lightweight and heavyweight sections of the Grammar School Football League, the original schedule has been thrown out and a new one is in effect. The News football team had a hard time defeating the Shattuck Grammar School team in a practice game last Saturday, winning 15 to 7. The Gram mar School boys were outweighed! more than 20 pounds to the man, but out played the winners the first half. Weight told and the losers weakened. E. A. Stewart is coaching the winners. Hill Military Academy Is the first school in the Portland Interscholastic League to start basketball practice. It began last week. More than 2o are out for the team, and Coach "Chuck" Taylor has some promising material on hand. A meeting of the board pf directors of the Portland Interscholastic League is scheduled for this week to arrange a basketball, soccer and baseball sched ule for the 1914 season. The exact date has not been decided, but it probably will be Friday or Saturday. The Lincoln High School wrestlers are fast rounding into shape for a try out with several stars from the other schools. A definite meet has not been arranged, but the first match will take place after the 1913 football season is over. The actual paid attendance at the Lewis and Clark-Washington High game Saturday was 1155. Bantamweights Are Matched. LOS ANGELES, Nov. 10. "Kid" Wil liams, of Baltimore, bantamweight, and Eddie Campi, of San Francisco, were Indianapolis, in Outlaw League, Wants ex-Wlilte Sox Manager. And now the Federal League has planned to draft Fielder Jones. Wouldn't that jar you? Bunkered on one side by American Charybdis and on the other by Federal Scylla, the only move Fielder has left is to take a running broad jump from his office window, high up in the Yeon building. Indianapolis is the Federal League club which Is said to be beckoning to the former Chicago manager. Accord ing to a new baseball weekly, launched recently in St. Louis by H. W. Lanigan, Jones has agreed to put money in the new "outlaw" venture. Jones is absent from Portland, at tending the minor leagues' session at Columbus, O., but will doubtless deny this latest rumor with a wearied grin, as he has denied so many similar ru mors within the past two or three sea sons. Don Rader, the Oregon boy who went from the Western Tri-State League to the Chicago Sox last Sum mer, Is a Portland visitor. Rader fin ished at Lincoln in the Western League and batted .309. He expects to go into Spring training with the ' Sox next Spring for further trial. Looking for a Steady Brand? Train your preference to this mild and most wholesome of cigars. En joy its cheery companion ship. Always an agreeable cigar to start the day with and to light whenever you feel the need of another cigar. The price is mild too. I JT I Sealed i!5ilfmore V Iriangle Van Zandf. Jacobs iCo g 1 PRIXCETOX ATTACK STUDIED Yale-Trained Coaches to Meet Tigers' Open Stylo of Offense. NEW HAVEN, Conn, Nov. 10 Yale's football team was given a long prac tice today in perfecting Its defense to meet Princeton's style of attack. Wal ter Camp, Dr. "Billy" Bull and other coaches who saw the Harvard-Princeton game Saturday coached the players onto the basic principles of the Tiger offense. Dr. Bull'3 third eleven, using Princeton plays, entirely, will line up against the varsity for a scrimmage tomorrow. Pumpelly made his appearance in uniform on the field today, and al though he limped on account of his lame ankle, sent over three field goals from back of the 40-yard line and scored five in succession from the 30 yard mark. It is unlikely that he will start in the Princeton game, but it is probable he will be sent in if Yale comes within the scoring zone. Guern zy also showed good form in drop kicking today. 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