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About Morning Oregonian. (Portland, Or.) 1861-1937 | View Entire Issue (Dec. 5, 1911)
TINKER GLAD TO REACH PORTLAND Start of Chicago Cubs' Short stop Made With Beavers In Season of 1901. CHANCE DISPUTE RECALLED : ) Hcfnval of Sfurphy to Grant neleas In Order That lie Mtsht Take " Minirrmoit of Cincinnati i Vee Windy City TUyer. ! DT W. J. PETRAIX. "Home again." ahouted Joe T1nkr, 'the famous shortstop of the Chicago National Lean tram, aa ha alighted ! from the train yesterday mornina. ac companied by Mrs. Tinker. Jon opened ,a week's enicaaement at tha Empress Theater yesterday afternoon, and waa 'enpeclally pleased at the fa-t that l addition to appearing for one week at that show house, he will hare until .Friday of next week to pass In Port- Un-1. ' Tinker attributes his success In base ball to the start he secured with the '.Tortland champions of 1901. when he played third base here. "I am pleased to call Portland my home, for It la soon 'to b the perma- - nent home of the Tinker family, and ." besides I am a member of the Port- land lodge of Elks, and that Is some- . thing of which I am especially proud. t If I could only break a Iee; or some thing next July I think I would be 'the happiest fellow on earth, for that Is about the only chance I would have to get away long enough to visit here during the session of the grand lodge, -when th Best People of 141' will en tertain the Elks of the country. Oee. but I'd like to be In Portland then. But I truess there Is no chance." Pert I a ad Players hewn. During the present week Tinker's time will be pretty well taken up with his vaudeville atunt at the Empress, a monologue la which he relates Incl . dents of the diamond and shows store optican views of well-known diamond favorite and events In connection with the recent world's series. He Is especially pleased to visit the North west, aa he Is afforded an opportunity to dwell on Gregg, Mitchell. McLean, weney and other Portland men now In the big leagues. . Joe Tinker and Perle Casey, strange 11 to relate, both virtually broke Into professional baseball at the same time and on the same club. This was In lentr, Colo, In 100. and they held a reunion yesterday and talked over Incidents In their early career. Tinker atarted playing second base with Denver, and Casey waa a short stop. snd both switched positions later In their careers and proved more suc cessful. Tinker was released by Den ver and went to Montana, from whence he came to Portland In 1901. while Casey Jumped the Denver club and - went to Ogden. Utah, from which club he Jumped to Sacramento In the I'aclfla Coast League, and Anally wound ap with Portland In 107. rafatraeea la Ulated. Tinker In discussing his prospects for next season said that he would likely be with the Chicago club again, but freely expressed the opinion that that club had not treated him fairly In the matter of balking his chances to manage the Cincinnati team In the same league. I have given It of the beat year of my life to Chicago, and will not be able to play many more years with the team and 1 hlnk that when the chance waa offered me to handle the Cincinnati! team that Mr. Murphy should have shown me some consid eration by allowing me to go there, lie asserted that he could not get any one to take my plaoe, which Is a lame excuse In my opinion, for he will have to do It some day, and I think that my services to the Chicago team have been of enough value to have earned aome appreciation from the club own ers at that time. "A ballplayer does not get many chances to better blmrelf. once he goes to the big leagues, and the manage 'rnent of the Cincinnati team looked like the best chance of my career. If .the Pacific Coast League were to go .outlaw I know where I would play, and I guess most of my friends In "Portland do, also." Dlfferemee la Patched la. Tinker said that he came within an ace of spending most of last season out here. It was after his quarrel with Frank Chance and hla eventful sus pension that be had decided to "hit It" for Portland. While on hlls way to tha ticket office he met Charles W. Murphy, owner of the club, who In vited hire Into his office. They talked .over the differences between Tinker mnd Chance and, after the "peerless leader" waa called Into consultation. Tinker waa reinstated and played out the season. "That row with Chance all hap - pened In a game against Brooklyn and It was partly my fault and partly his." said Tinker In talking of the Inci dent. "Early in the game a fly ball was hit over short, which I thought I could get. but It waa on of those windy days and the air currents carried the ball far beyond An and It fell safe becauso Sheckard stayed away when I yelled that I had It- Two runs scored on this play. A few Innings afterward an other high fly waa batted by the pitcher and It looked easy for Sheckard. so 1 yelled take It Jimmy' and stayed away. Be tVerda Kaeaaaaed. "The wind had veered around and Instead of carrying the bail to left field. It held It almost over where I waa standing and the ball hit aafe In front of me and Just out of Sheckard s reach. Chance yelled at me and I an swered huffily, which I should not have done, and he told me to take my uni form off. "I replied that I could not do It quick enough to suit me and dashed for the clubhouse, so you see how easy It la for players to get tangled up. If we were not so eager to win and were not under auch a strain, we would not have lost our tempers and everything would have been rosy, even though we did lose. Those two plays lost that game, for Brooklyn beat us out that day. when we were fighting for'flrst place." Kefemng to his vaudeville tour. Tinker said that he enjoyed favorable receptions all along the line until he reached Victoria, where hla act fell flat. -Victoria Is the worst place I ever played In my life. They failed to get any of the stuff I put over about base ball. "In my act I describe some of the plays In the recent world's series and toss In a few talea of the diamond, but no matter m hose picture was flashed on the screen, the Victorians showed not the least enthusiasm. In troducing Ty Cobb as the greatest ball player of modern times fell as Sat as It some unknown nam bad been men- PORTLAND PLAYER, TEN TEARS A STAR WITH CHICAGO CLUBS, RETURNS HERE AS A THESPIAN. - ... . v r-A-' ".-4 JOSEPH B. tioned. They even failed to applaud the flashing of Vean Oregg'a picture, which Beamed stranger to me than the failure In respect to Cobb, for Gregg came from this aectlon and everywhere else my remarka on him are greeted enthusiastically." ."This attitude puxzled me and I In quired of the orchestra leader the rea son. Here s his answer: "Why, my dear man. you cannot bally well expect us to enthuse over such an unsportsman like game, don't you know?"" AUSTRALIANS ARK FAVORITES Kangaroos and All-Stars High Srliool Tram Play Today. The Australian boya will play their second soccer match this afternoon. when they will meet an all-star Port land high achool eleven on Multnomah Field. On this occasion the opposition will be furnished by boya or their own age, who are not more advanced In their knowledge of the game, and who have not bad the advantage of playing to gether any more than the Australian boya, so that all things point to a more even game with the advantage In favor of the visitors. In discussing the chances of the high schools' team. Manager Goodwin, of Lincoln, aald: "After aeelng the game out un by the boya Saturday against a much older "and more experienced team, wa cannot feel confident of a favorable result, for they struck me aa being a faster combination than we shall be. Still, they will not beat ua by the aame margin aa that by which they lost Saturday. If we can help it." Goodwin's opinion coincldea with me views of most of those who witnessed Saturday's game, for there are three boys on the Kangaroo' side, who have played soccer for some time, while last year saw tha Inauguration of th gam among the high schools here. The lineup; nish School. Position. Australian Boys. Go r re. Icy tC U rirmodf C RB....... In .... Williams ..... Rnfrr .. Olaacon ........ CUrk Morrell Randall ... Bharklock .... Lawrence . ... Davidson . ... Rrtallack Ilron (W.) L. u Santord (P. A.1..R H B , Co I P. A.) C H H. ...... Goodwin U)....L II B. Tu-rc ILI O R F. Msftua (J I R P. Gordon WT . C F. . Il'.bre or Col J ) . I L F. Mc.NauKhton (W.).o L. F It will be seen that five schools are represented on tha Portland team. Washington claiming three of the eleven, while th others have two apiece. LEST WE FORGET What Feraner Port lead Players Are New Doles. No. II. John P. Thlelman. JOHN P. THIELMAN". better known to the fans aa "Jake," was one of the beat pitcher ever developed on the Pacific Coast. He first attracted th attention of th Portland fans as a member of the Tacoma club of ISO 2. Unfortunately for his future, his dis position was such as to frequently cause blm trouble with tha manage ment of th different club he was with. In 1903. when Portland Jumped the Northwestern League and affiliated with the Paclflo Coast organisation, Thlelman caat his lot with the Port land club. With Portland he got along better than with Seattle. Tacoma or Spokane, which claimed his services. In 101 and 1902. - Thlelman was retained for 1104 and at the end of that season the St. Louis National League club offered Walter McCredle the services of Big Larry McLean In exchange for Thlelman. Mc Credle had Just acquired the control of the Portland club In the Fall of 10 and he figured to build up a win ning club In 1905, which caused him to Jump at the chance to get a flrst clasa catcher, of which the team waa In dire need. The trade went through readily, and the Portland twlrler went to St. Louis, where he had a great year j While with Tacoma In 1901. Thlelman had a Cist fight with "Honest" John McCloskcy, and when that worthy was Imported aa manager of the St. Louis team In 190C, Thlelman was released to Boston, and from that club he was shunted around for several months. Finally he landed In the Eastern League and ,has been playing In that circuit aver sinca. Red Stocking Founder Dies. CINCINNATI. O, Dec 4 Dr. John W. Draper, ti year old. for 10 yeara secretary to the various police chiefs of this city, and in his youth the or. ganlxer of the "live oaks." a baseball club which later became known as the famoua "Red Stockings" of 1169. died today at his bom la this city from an Illness of two year a cap- , V CX y . TINKER. 3 Seattle Utters Loud Cries at Portland Lads' Lineup. GAME NEARLY CALLED OFF Northerners Declare Hill, Colombia "C" and Portland Academy In eligible) Superintendent R I fr ier Indorse Contept. Seattle authorities who are backing the all-star high school football eleven from that city yesterday telegraphed strenuous objection to the playing of stare by Portland who are member of th Hill Military, Columbia Univer sity or Portland Academy teams. "The team must be confined to stu dents of the high schools," telegraphed Tom McDonald, athletic director of the Seattle Athletic Club, who is coaching th Seattle all-stars. "Wi are choos ing our men solely from Queen Anne, Lincoln. Broadway and other purely city schools." Representative of th three Portland high schools, Lincoln. Washington and Jefferson met yesterday and for a time It looked as If the proposed gam would be called off. As a matter of policy the scheme waa referred to Su perintendent Klgler last night and Professor Rlgler gave the gam his hearty Indorsement. "Personally. I think the plan is a good one," said H. H. Herdman. prin cipal of Washington High. "I waa rather opposed to It, though, on the grounds that perhaps It conflicted with our school regulations, but with Super intendent Rlgler"s Indorsement every thing should work out finely for a big game. With Coach RlneharL of Lincoln. In command, the Portland all-stars held their first practice on Multnomah Field yesterday afternoon with-11 men In suits. Coach Rlnehart Immediately began Instilling signals and simple for mation Into hi youngster. Beckett, Cornell, Nelson, Condlt, Anderson. Campion. Hendrlckson. Bron son. Cole and Sax were among those at the practice. The second practice will be held today as soon after 2:10 o'clock as all the men can get there. DR. WILLIAMS PICKS TEAM Minnesota Coach Places Three of Ills Own Men In Lineup. MINNEAPOLIS, Dec. 4. The first time since he has been coach at th University of Minnesota, Dr. H. L. Wil liams has picked an all-Amerlcan team. Three Mlnneaota players are placed on the team. Captain Earl Pickering, who waa barred from the Wisconsin game because of alleged professionalism, not receiving a place. The team chosen by Dr. Williams fol lows: Right end. Kills. Michigan; right tackle, Frank, Minnesota; right guard, Robinson. Minnesota; center, Slbert. West Point; left guard, Wakeman, An napolis; left tackle. Hart. Princeton; left end. White, Princeton: quarter back, Howe, Yale; left halfback, Ros enwald. Mlnneaota; right halfback, Wendell. Harvard; fullback. Philbln, Tale. KEEXE nOKSES UXDER HAMMER Rannymede Brings $18,3 75, Five Others Sell for $26,8 79. LONDON, Deo. 4. The disposal of J. R. Keene's racehorses began at New market today. Runnymede, Cataract, Outram, Slmullum, Julna and Matushka aold for an aggregate of $45,250. Of thla total Runnymede accounted for 11S.17S and Cataract for $14,176. Fall Lays Out Wrestler. ST. LOUTS. Dec 4. John Bllliter, of Toledo, O- was defeated by Al Was em, a local man In a match here tonight for the lightweight wrestling champlon I shin of the T'nited States, when Wu a m threw him heavily off the mat causing unconsciousness. Of all the world's production of t747 tons of quicksilver lut year, the United. States produoed but 771 tona SCHOOLS BARRED T BALL PARK IS LEI James A. Kelly Is Lucky Bidder on Job for Big $25,000 Amphitheater. WORK IS TO START TODAY President SIcCredie Reject Lower Bids Because or Delay In Filing Bonds Seating Capacity to Be About 15,000. James A. Kelley, of St. Johna. was awarded the contract for the construc tion of th new baseball plant at Twenty-fourth and Vaughn streets yester day. He announced that he would be gin work on the big atands thla morn ing. Contractor Kelley was ot the lowest bidder, but President McCredle, of th Portland club, lost patience at the de lay of the other bidders In furnishing bonds. When they failed to live up to the requirements yesterday he Imme diately selected the next lowest bid and awarded the contract to Kelley. The plant, when completed, will have cost between $25,000 and $30,000. The old weather-beaten stands have been an eyesore to Portland's loyal fan dom for year. and. there will be no regret expressed at their passing. Parta of the atands have stood the as saults of wind and rain since May, 1901, and aside from the reinforcing of the supports, have remained Just as they were first built. As the game became more and more popular here additions were made to bleachers and stands al most yearly. 2800 Crowd First Park. The first structures at Twenty-fourth and Vaughn streets had a seating ca pacity for 2800 persons. The follow ing year' a grandstand -section was added, and In 1903 the stands were fur ther Increased by covering over part of the left field bleachers, while new bleachers were put up. In 1905 and 190$ further encroach ment were made on the left field bleacher section and In 1910 the south part of th right field bleacher waa roofed and aaded to the grandstand, the bleachers being extended to the right field fence. At the beginning of last season, the seating capacity of the Portland park was rated at about 9000. The proposed new park will seat 13. 000 persons. Certain parts of th -new bleachers can be added to eventually, which will Increase the capacity sev eral thousand seats. The new grandstand is to extend from the left field fence to a point a little beyond first' base, and when com pleted Is expected to seat about 7600 comfortably. President McCredle has ordered 6600 opera seats for the new grandstand, and expects to supple ment this order In the near future. - Box seats will be plentiful In the new park, as 76 boxes, seating six parsons each, ara specified In the plans. Mc Credle Is now figuring on whether to add another tier of boxes to these, as they will be needed. Judging from the many requests received for box reser vations for next season. Bleacher 40 Tier High. Th bleacher In right field will ex tend to th right field fence and will have It row of seata. The left field bleachers will run parallel with the left field fence and will be IS rowa high, up to a point ten feet south of the old score board, where bleachers extending the entire length of the old score board will be built, 40 tiers high. From the corner of the center field fence to the right field bleachers there will be no seats, but at th top of th lnclosur a board walk from four to six feet wide will be constructed for us of the fans In going to and from the left and center field seats. W. W. McCredle departed last night for San Francisco to attend the annual meeting of the Paclflo Coast League, which convenes Wednesday. He an nounced before leaving that he intend ed to return to Portland by Saturday to oversee the construction of the new plant. Besides, he is planning a sys tem of drainage for the park to dry oft the field quicker than In the past. This svstem Is McCredle's own Ides, and he Intends personally to oversee Its Installation. TACOMA ""WHITE HOPE" QUITS Rival Scrapper Jars Aspirations of Jack Mace In Private Go. TACOMA. Dee. 4. Jaok CMalley, a heavyweight with a Jolting right up percut, put quite a dent In the flstlo aspirations of Jack Mace, the South Ta coma heavyweight white hope yester day In a little bout which took place In private across the Sound, Just over the line in King County. The big fellows met In a contest scheduled to go ten rounds, but in th fifth th nght was getting pretty warm and Mac threw hi shoulder out and was forced to quit. Referee Logue gave the decision to O'Malley. The winner took $75, the full gate money, about 60 spectators seeing the go. GOLF PLAYERS COMPETE FIRST ROUND OF CUP CONTEST TO BE SATURDAY. Women of Waverly Club Practicing for Tournament Which Will Close December SO. The first round of an interesting competition is scheduled to take place on the Waverly golf links next Satur day. B. S. Josselyn has presented a cup to be played for on the handicap basis, each contestant playing all strokes with the same club. The five players with beet scores will continue tha fol lowing Saturday, and the one of these whose score for the two days' play Is best will take the trophy. In antlcl patlon of this event a number of play ers have been practicing putting with mldlrons and brasseys, and driving with mashlee and putters. The mldlron Is the club most favored. Several women of the club were out last Saturday, that being the first of three qualifying days for the December tournament. Wedneeday and Saturday of this week give them additional dates on which to play the necessary 18 holes. The eight best net scores will then be paired to start on match play beginning Saturday. December 16. The finals mill be played December 30. The semi-finals in the directors' cup handicap tournament were played on GOfURAC FOR NEW the Waverly golf link Saturday and T. A. Linthicum defeated A. T. Huggin In an extra hole match, F. E. Wheeler at the same time winning on the last green from William MacMaater. The two winners will meet next Saturday in the final match, Linthicum conced ing five strokes to Wheeler. Sunday afternoon a team match was played, after which the playera enjoyed a din ner at the clubhouse. All matches were of 11 holes, played on the Nassau system, which allows a point for each nine holes and a point for the match, the maximum that any player could contribute toward his team's auccess being three points. Jor dan Zan picked the better team though the result waa not decided until tha last match waa In. Tha Individual record follow: Jordan Zan Olwirt Minor ....... S R. L. Xacleav ... 8 J. B. Touoa T. A. Untblcann.. lij. GUl!on 0 J. J. Morrow 2!A. T. Hugains o 0'K. H. Koehler .... 3 0 J. Dougherty 1 OA. Kerr 1 J. B. Alexander . A. H. C. Berry D. T. Honeyman I. L. Webster . . 8W. Bellackay 0 H. M. Montgomery O R. T. Cox .... a 0 p. F. Du Flon ... Dr. Minor F. H. Lathrop .... OlThomas Robertson. 0 Total 121 Total 10 MOHAWKS DEFEAT . WATKIXS Shipley, Hughes and Crowes Heroes 'of Football Game. AMCHER-WIGGINS LEAGUE I.KADFUA. W. L. P. C. Mohawks 4 1 .100 F. E. Watklns 4 1 .WO Alblna Juniors i 2 -oOO The Mohawks defeated the Watklns football eleven by the score of 11 to 6 Sunday. The Watklns team was able to make first down only once. Shipley, Hughes and the Crowe brothers starred for the victors while Hlerberg and Jones shone for the losers. The line-ups: Mohawks. T. B. Watklns. L. Crows ...1B R. Jones Cox LT Balrd Shipley, Boachel...LO Idalo Kennedy C Hlerberg Hughes RG Graham Cyphers, Burge....RT Hyland Maglus RE Ashbaugh Crowe, Finder QB Hyland Morris LH T. Jones Hurley R H Smart Hersog FB Mitchell E T EASTERN SPORTSMEN FAVOR PROTECTION, SATS FIXLEY. State W'arden Returns From Trip, Oregon Interests Ximrods, Who Ask About Conditions. W. L. Flnley. State Game Warden, yesterday returned to Portland after a six weeks absence, during: wnicn ne visited a number of the Middle Western and Eastern States to ascertain how the game laws are administered and what methods aro being followed in protect ing and propagating fish and game. While In New York Mr. Flnley visited Theodore Rosevelt, who expressed his satisfaction with the efforts that are being made by the game wardens and sportsmen In the West to preserve wild game. "'In many of the states I found they had a sort of civil service for wardens," said Mr. Flnley. "Candidates for warden were required to know certain things about animals and birds; how to handlo cases in court, and to have a general knowledge of the game laws, not only of their own state, but of those adjacent. "Another condition that Interested me was the co-operation that exists In many states between the various gun clubs and fishing clubs and the Game Warden. In the Fish and Game Association of Springfield. Mass., I have never seen anything like the spirit that prevails among the sports men, I waa present at their monthly dinner and had an excellent oppor tunity to Judge of their methods. They have 800 members, and each la the strongest kind of an advocate for bird The OrW.R.&?N. gives you a con tinuous train service between Portland, Tacoma and Seattle Four fine trains daily in each direction. Portland leaving time: Local 8:30 A. M. Puget Sound Exp. 1:45p.m. Shasta Limited 3:00 P.M. Owl 11:00 p.m. 0-W1&N. "Lin of tha Shasta Ltmtud" All trains arrive at and depart from Union Depot, loot of Sixth SU City Ticket Office, cor. Third and Washington Sts. Telephones: Private Ex. 1 Home A-6121 C. W. Stinger, City Ticket Agent W. D. SKINNER General Freight and Paaasn- m If! H E Mjiiia- When nothing else will start dirt You KNOW SAFOLIO WILL DO IT Works Without Waste CLEANS-SCOURS-POLISHES 11a - H L.r Jl AZ Cl". Which Church Shall Receive the 2750 Pipe Organ? Every 25o Too Spend With Vm Entitle Yon to a Vote. and animal protection. At Spring-field and at many other points I found that Oregon was not unknown to sportsmen. Everywhere I was asked about the Chinese pheasant. It seemed to me to be an excellent advertisement. "United States Fish Commissioner Johnson, whom I visited in Washing ton, told me the Commission la ex tremely interested In the conditions in Oregon. Primarily because the state still has a large number of fish, and the streams are well stocked. "While I was in Washington I ar ranged with tho Fish Commission to se cure a number of Eastern brook trout, black-spotted and rainbow trout eggs. Some of these will be Bhipped from Col orado; just when I cannot say. "Colonel Roosevelt told me he was deeply interested in the question of game protection in the West, where same Is plentiful. He aald he hoped the states would do everything possi ble to preserve game, so that, in spite of the Industrial development, the wild game would not be exterminated. He presented me with a copy of his latest book and Invited me to his home. I also had the pleasure of meeting John Burroughs, the great naturalist, who expressed much interest in the wild birds of this state." GBOVEB HAYES IS BESTED Joe Slandot, of Kew Orleans, Gets Decision In 20-Round Mill. NEW ORLEANS. Dec. 4. Joe Man dot, of this city, obtained the decision over Grover Hayes, of Philadelphia, after a 20-round bout at Algiers. The decision was close, the general opinion being about evenly divided on a draw. Hayes forced the fighting through out, Mandot saving himself for close Repeating Shotguns. A Winchester Take-Down with a strong shooting full for duck or trap shooting, and I able modified choke or cylinder bore barrel for field shooting lists at only $42.00. The retail price is less. 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