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The NYSSA
Published at Nyssa, Oregon.
VOLUME XXXVI, NO. 6
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GAI
8ITY JOURNAL
Fastest Growing City In Oregon
GATEWAY TO THE OWYHEE AND BLACK CANYON IRRIGATION PROJECTS
IN THE HEART OF OREGON’S SUGAR EMPIRE
$1.50 PER YEAR
NYSSA, OREGON, THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 13, 1941
DISCUSS
Associated C.ofCJ. Benefit Dance
Two Home Games FARMERS
DAIRY PROBLEMS
WITH C. OF C.
To Meet In Nyssa For Polio
For Bulldogs
LIONS CLUB PLAN
FOB COMMUNITY
The Nyssa Lion’s club have been
quietly working for the construction
of a 20 bed community hospital to
be constructed in Nyssa, at a very
rough estimate to cost about $40,000.
The
hospital will be of the very lat
Washington, D. C. News Burean of est modem
design, would be an 'op
the Nyssa Gate City Journal en staff" hospital,
with the indivd-
ual rooms perhaps furnished by the
WASHINGTON, D. C —People of various
lodges and civic organ
the Pacific Northwest cannot und izations local
and indlvduals: It is esti
erstand the feeling in the east re mated
a room could be equip
garding the war and the various ped for that
about
$150.
steps the United States is taking The plans for
hospital were
The northwest has a different view brought to light the
when it was an
point and is not excited about the nounced that a group
of Nyssa Li
situation. What the northwest wants ons had gone to Emmett
view a
is it share of the national defense hospital recently completed to there
by
contracts.
Dr. Carver.
A former member of the Wash
the committee in charge
ington legislature, a resident of Spo of Heading
formulating
for the hos
kane, expressed astonishment at the pital is Dr. K. E. plans
Kerby. Others are
atmosphere he has found in the na Fred Burgesser and Sid E. Smith,
tional capital.
local druggist.
“What is it all about?” he inquir Dr. Kerby said that very rough
ed. “Here I have met substantial plans have' been drawn up, but that
business men who are afraid the the real plans for the building are
United States will be Invaded by yet to be made. “If this hospital Is
German troops within a couple of built, and I believe that it most
months. It looks to me like plan certainly will be, it will be a big
ned hysteria. Secretary of War b:nefit
Stimson goes before congression by said. to the community,” Dr. Ker
commitees and paints a picture of Those who viewed the Emmet hos-
invasion. Secretary of Navy Knox pita were Dr. Kerby, Fred Burges
does the same thing. The president ser,
R. G. Whitaker, president of the
was told a submarine was off our
Lion's club; Cliff Mains and
shore, but it proved to be a whale Nyssa
K. K. Lienkaemper, all of whom
and the first statement of ths presi were
enthusiastic about the possi
dent has never been recalled. Any
of a hospital in Nyssa. The
one who questions that the United bilities
details
on
the financing of the con
States will be Invaded is regarded as struction cost
not yet been
a fifth columnist or as a plain fool. completed, but have
expected that
Eastern newspaper do not attempt some method will it be is worked
out in
to sooth the public; the movies are the near future.
filled with propaganda. When I re
turn to Spokane and tell of my ob
servations here and the hysteria no
Herd Association
one will believe me."
“Out our way,” he continued, “the
people are less excited. There Is a To Hear Noted
definite sentiment against the United
States becoming involved in the war Speakers
oversea. They are favorable, the ma
jority, to giving reasonable aid to P. M. Brandt, head division of
the British, but even if England Animal Industry, and G. A. Brown,
should, be invaded we do not expect for the annual meeting of the Mal-
the Germans to come over and at manager Interstate Associated crea
tack us, at least not immediately, meries, will be he headline speakers
if at all. It is strange to me that
County Dairy Herd Improve
eastern people are so gassed up with heur
ment
association to be held at the
war talk. I heard one New York Vale community
hall on Friday. Feb.
judge tell the senate committee that 14, beginning at 10:30 a. m. Direc
if we go into the foreign war we tors of the association emphasize
will have a civil war at home and he that all dairymen of the county are
explained the feeling there in the invited to atend regardless of whe
big city among the different racial ther or not they are members of the
groups. Perhaps one reason that the association. They are urged to bring
eastern people are frightened is the their wives and families and spend
publicity the eastern papers give to the day at Vale. Pot luck lunch will
statements emanating from Wash be served at noon with coffe furn
ington. Our western papers print ished by the association.
very little about these, or none at In addition to the speakers men
all.”
tioned above, motion pictures on
dairy subjects and some musical
A Portland fireman has been six numbers have been arranged.
weeks in school in the capital re
ceiving instructions on fire fighting
in the event of invasion. Among his
teachers were New York firemen
who we^e sent to London to leant
how the British operate. The British
are a brave people and are holding
up well, he explains, but why Materials for the construction of
shouldn’t they. They are on a small the mattresses under the cotton
Island, they oan’t leave it, and so mattress making project have ar
they must surpress fires as best they rived in the county and a school
can and “take it.” The incendiaries for the local leaders who will assist
dropped by the Germans may des people in their communities in mak
troy as much as six miles square ing the mattresses, has been sched
more than half the area of Wash uled for the Boulevard grange hall
ington, D. C.) and when firemen for Tuesday. February 18 beginning
are working on the conflagration at 10:00 a. m.
enemy airplanes sweep through the According to information received
streets shooting at the fire fighters from the county agent’s office. 232
with machine guns.
eligible familes have made applica
tion for 445 mattresses in communi
throughout the coun
NYSSA OFFICE FOR ty. ties It scattered
is proposed to se up mattress
making centers in seven communi-
EMPLOYMENT OFFICE ies.
namely. Oregon Slope. Ontario.
The Oregon State Employment Nyssa. Adrian. Vale. JaJmlson and
service will maintain an office in Jordan Valley. Immediately follow
Nyssa to handle unemployed claims, ing the leaders training school on
according to Charles M. Paradis, February 18 the centers will be op
ened up in the different communi
manager of the Ontario office.
For the time being the office will ties and people who have made ap
be located in the city hall, and will plication will be notified of the days
be open from 8 a. m. to 5 p. m. every when they can expect to come to
Wednesday. Those who have unem these centers to construct their mat
ployed claims, or desire any infor tresses. Oranges in he communities
mation concerning unemployed will be asked to atrke the local ar
compensation are asked to contact rangements for the making of these
Paradis at the Nyssa office on the mattresses and to appoint commit
day mentioned.
tees to supervise this work.
It is expected that a permanent
location will be found later, when Infant Passes Away
the office will be moved. Announce The infant daughter, bom to Mr.
ment will be made later on the new and Mrs. L. J Aulback on niday
at the family home, passed away an
location.
\ Sunday evening. Oraveslde services
were conducted by the priest of the
Retam Home
Mrs Russell Cornell's brother and Catholic church in Nampa. Inter
sister-in-law, Mr and Mrs James ment was at the Nampa cemetery
Palmer of southern Wisconsin left with the Nyssa Funeral Home in
for their home after a ten days visit. charge of arrangements.
Mattress Project
School Date Set
This Week
“A" DIVISION
W. L. Pet.
6 1 .857
Vale
5 1 .833
Emmett
............4 3 .571
Ontario
.......... 3 4 .429
Weiser
............2 5 .286
Nyssa
Payette ....... ............1 7 .125
"B” DIVISION
......... 4 1 800
Fruitland
3 2 .600
Adrian
3 2 .600
Parma ...........
New Plymouth ..........0 5 .000
Two home games are on tap for
the Nyssa Bulldogs this week-end.
Adrian’s high-stepping Antelopes
will be here tomorrow night, Friday,
Feb. 14. The Adrian team has been
bowling over all opposition during
the past few weeks including the
Bulldogs at Adrian, 25 to 18. Coach
Claude Cook has built up an evenly
balanced five that boasts not one
outstanding star, but several of a-
bout equal ability.
Veteran Schweiber is probably the
Antelope attack. At center he directs
the team’s offense. Timmerman, at
forward, has been a high scorer in
recent games, while Tallman, guard,
is the key to the Antelope defense.
Game time for the first contest
will be 7:30.
Weiser's Wolverines will meet the
Bulldogs here Saturday night at
8 00
Coach Elder's Blue and White
squad is still nursing a feeling of
resentment over an unmerciful beat
ing at Weiser's hands earlier in the
season at Weiser. Comparative scor
es however, indicate that it was
more than anything a completely
off” night for the Bulldogs. Vale
might be used as a yardstick. Nys-
sa’s squad held up bravely under
the withering fire of the Vikings at
Vale but lost, 46 to 27. The Wolver
ines on the other hand were com
pletely befuddled by the Vikings and
lost, 50 to 13, last weekend.
Ontario, too, holds two vicotries
over the Wolverines, but the Tigers
dropped one to Nyssa. Feeling is
strong in the home camp for a vic
tory over the Idaho squad.
A complete junior lineup, with the
exception of Rich Lewis, senior cen
ter, will start against Adrian, ac
cording to Coach Elder. Handy
Fran kWilson is back in sTiape aft
er nursing a lame shoulder in the
last several games. Don Eldredge.
forward, or guard is showing consid
erable sparkplug ability on the
squad and is about due for a big
night.
:
.
A group of farmers were guests
of the Nyssa Chamber of Commerce
Wednesday to discuss ways and
means of developing the dairying
Industry in the county.
It was the concensus of opinion
of those fanners present that the
location of a condensary in Nyssa
would be of more value to the far
mer who Is Interested in dairying
than would a creamery or cheese
factory.
R. H. darker, Adrian farmer said
that dairying costs were much low
er in Malheur county than on the
Oregon coast. He said that the cast
for producing a pound of butterfat
on the coast was near 47 cents per
pound as compared with a cost in
Malheur county of 14.3 cents per
pound.
A new creamery Idea was thought
not to be feasible due to the fact
that there are now so many private
and co-operative creameries serving
the district.
A committee composed of F*rank
T. Morgan, Robert H. Sawyer and
Louis P. Thomas was appointed by
President Kerby to work with a
group or organization of farmers
interested in developing dairying in
this district.
The meeting is considered one of
the most Interesting and education
al that the local Chamber has held
in a long time.
Farmer friends of the Nyssa
Chamber present were FYank Parr,
Master of the Oregon Trail Grange,
E. L. Jamison, Wm. DeGrofft, R. H.
Clark and a Mr. Anderson with the
Department of Agriculture.
Bills Would Tax
Utility Customers
SALEM—The problem of more
adequate pensions for the state’s
needy aged is »eceivlng much atten
tion at the hands of Oregon’s law
makers at this session.
Bills already Introduced contain
at least a half dozen proposals for
raising additional funds for this
purpose. Latest of these proposals
involve a special tax to be paid by
patrons of public service utilities—
electric, telephone, water, gas, etc.
Proponents of this plan would add
eight percent to the monthly bills
of the utility patrons, the revenue
from this source—estimated at be
tween 81.750.000 and $2,500,00 a year
—to go into the old age pension
fund. Another measure, sponsored
by the Oregon Old Age Pension Fed
eration would levy what amounts to
a poll tax upon every resident of
the state, based upon the individu
al’s income but in no case to be less
than $6 a year. One of the first old
Aided by Hack Wilson’s eagle eye age pension measures Introduced
and steady hand, which brought cf three per cent, and Representa
him the award for highest point tive Frank Lenergan is backing the
scorer In the Nampa Gold Medal calls for a corporation dividend tax
Basketball Tournament, the Nyssa aid of the needy aged.
Town team, last Thursday, won the The Gibson-Jones bill providing
Gold Medal Consolation by defeat for a consumers tax of 15 per cent
ing Parma’s Town team 36-31 in to be levied against all patrons of
what is described as a thriller from electric utilities in Oregon Is draw
start to finish. Wilson was given the ing a lot of fire from centers served
high point trophy for indivdual high by municipally owned power and
score ’/ith 63 points. Indivdual med light plants which are now tax ex
als were given the members of the empt. Under the Gibson-Jones bill
Nyssa team. Of the four games that electric utilities would be relieved of
Nyssa played, they lost only one, present advalorem taxes, the saving
the first to Montgomery-Wards of thus realized to be passed on to
Boise by a score of 42-36. Then fol consumers in the form of rate re
lowed the Middleton game which ductions, which in turn would be
Nyssa took 40-18 and the game with absorbed in the new consumer’s tax.
the Nampa M. I. A. again saw Nys This tax would apply to patrons of
sa in the lead at the end with a municipally owned utilities as well
33-24 score and then going into the as to those who are served by pri
finals to win the Consolation from vately owned utilities.
Parma.
The Nyssa boys are going to blos Farmers Evening School
som out In brand new uniforms, ac “Livestock Loss Prevention" will
cording to Wilson, through the gen form the main basis of the Farmers'
erosity of several Nyssa firms who Evening school program for the 17th
have donated to ward the purchase and 24th of February Preventing
of the purple and gold uniforms livestock losses on the farm will be
Wilson asked that the following presented on oMnday evening, Feb.
firms be thanked for their finan 17. A motion picture will show caus
cial support—McClure's Bakery, the es of losses and methods of preven
First National Bank. Gamble store. tion. Other plans will be discussed
Wilson brothers. Gate City Dairy, by Joe Jarvis, Agriculture agent of
Owyhee Drug, Nyssa Pharmacy, Id the Union Pacific. Jarvis will show
aho Power Co., Thompson Oil Co., the fit mand discuss phases of live
stock losses and their prevention.
and Polar Cold Storage.
The Nyssa hoopsters will start The meeting of Monday. February
their second tournament following | 24. will consider the topic “Livestock
their registration in the Payette Losses in Shipping."
tournament whiah is scheduled to House Guests
start February 25 and end March I. Mr and Mrs Eraell Davis of Seat
Sixteen teams are to play in the tle spent the week-end as house
guests of Mr. and Mrs William E.
tournament. Wilson said.
Those on the Nysaa Town Team Schlreman On Sunday the group
squad are Hack Wilson, Max Sch- motored to Boise
weizsr, Irwin Elder. Leon Bailey,
Wren Ensminger. Lloyd Lewis. Blal- In Portland
re Hendricks. Colby Poage and Bob Mr and Mrs. Dell Taylor were
McCurdy.
______ _____________
in Portland over the week-end
riande Wilson IN
,n Frm" B*i,T
Claude Wilson has been very ill R. J. Stiff of Baker was a business
this week and away from his duties visitor in Nyssa on Wednesday. Stiff
at Wilson'S grocery
• is owner of the Inland Oil Company
Nyssa Hoopsters
Win Consolation
The Associated Chambers of Com
merce of Western Idaho and East
ern Oregon will meet in Nyssa next
Tuesday night at 7 p. m; lor their
bi-monthly meeting. The subject of
the meeting will be “New Industries
lor the Lower Snake River Valley."
Principal speaker for the evening
will be Earle G. Retde, Supervisor
of Agricultural and Industrial Dev
elopment for the Union Pacific
Railway company.
The meeting will be held in the
Nyssa high school home economics
department.
Piesldent Dr. Kerby has appoint
ed Omer Adktnson, Henry H. Hart
ley and Louis P. Thomas as the
committee in charge of the arrange
ments.
Victims
A dance, sponsored by Nyssa civic
organizations and headed by the
Lions club has been planned for
Saturday, March 1 for the benefit
of the Nyssa and surrounding ter
ritory victims of infantile paraly
se. All money raised over and above
the expenses will go to finance me
dical care for the victims.
The dance will be open to the
public and every person Is urged to
r. serve this date. Admission will be
$1 per couple for adults and 50 cents
for high school students.
Fred Burgesser and Heinz Son-
nekes are the committee in charge
of arrangements. Mae Russell and
her seven piece orchestra have been
engaged to furnish the music for
the dance. Sonnekes announced this
week.
Draft Board Calls
18 County Men FINAL DATE SET
Eighteen men from Malheur coun
ty have been called to serve In the
army, according to an-announce-
ment released by the chairman of
the Malheur county local board, Ro
bert O. Lytle, Vale. Those who have
been called will report to the Mul
tnomah County Library in Portland
on February 19. They are:
Harold W. Elliott, Nyssa, Raymond
E. Hines, Nyssa, Merl W. Kygar,
Nyssa, Joseph H. Weber, Vale, Va
lentine Dominguez, Frulta, Colo.,
Carl H. Snow. Ontario, Louie B.
Marostlca, Nyssa, Lawrence J. Ma-
rostlca, Nyssa, Robert O. Knudson.
Jamieson, Thomas C. Johnson, Bro
gan, Gilbert W. Durant, Vaie, Har
old J. Rehr, Ontario. Clifford W.
Glascock, Vale. Qulnsen E. Pfaff,
Nyssa. Howard D. Boor, Nysa. (al
ready enlisted). Harold T. Strom,
Nyssa, William E. Blackaby, Ontar
io. Theodora R. Baird, Nyssa.
Because some of the above named
men may not be selected the follow
ing list of alternates, who will be
notified five days In advance in case
they are to fill any vacancy caused
by the rejection) of any of the prin
cipals:
Felix A. Friend, Braidwood, 111,
Louie G. Davis, Wood Lake, Neb.,
Michael J. O'Toole, Juntura, Donald
F. Baird, Ontario.
ON WHEAT CRO P
INSURANCE
February 28 is the final date for
Insuring wheat under the Federal
wheat crop Insurance program ac
cording to the office of the county
Agricultural Conservation associa
tion. Interest in crop Insurance Is
greater in Malheur county this
spring than ever befoen and the as
sociation has given six community
committeemen special instructions
in crop insurance and these men
are contacting some of their neigh
bors regarding the insurance. Com
mitteemen doing this work are Chas.
Faw, Vale; Harry Featherton, Vale;
A. F. Ooodell, Nyssa: Earl Weaver,
Ontario; Ross Branch, Ontario; and
B. O. Blakesley, Weiser, Ida., Rt. 3.
Under the crop Insurance set-up
the farmers may Insure their wheat
grown on acreage within their al
lotments for 75 per cent of a nor
mal yield by paying a premium
varying generally from JJ5 to 1 bu
shel per acre. Premium and Indem
nity payments are both figured in
bushels rather than In dollars. Far
mers who expect to Insure their
wheat crops this spring should con
tact one of the committeemen list
ed above or should call at the coun
ty office previous to Feb. 28.
LEGION TO HOLD
OPEN HOUSE
Nyssa Legion To
Nyssa Post of the American Log- Register Vets
Ion will hold an open house party
next Thursday, February 20 begin For Defense
ning af 8 p. m. Archie and Harry
Howell and Walter Thompson are
the committee In charge.
The party will be open to the
business men and any ex-service
man in the vicinity.
A well rounded out evening of fun
Is promised by the committee.
ONIONS, LETTUCE,
FARM SCHOOL TOPIC
Carl Dietz of the Parma Eperi
mental Station will discuss onions
and lettuce at the next meeting this
coming Monday at 8 p. m. accord
ing to J. E. Johnson, agriculture In
structor. Dietz will also speak on
wlreworm. There Is a strong demand
for more Information on this pest.
Joe Jarvis, Union Pacific Agricul
ture agent, showed motion pictures
on harvesting, storing grading and
shipping potatoes to a large farmer's
evening class in Adrian Monday.
Jarvis also discussed methods of de
creasing Injury to potatoes and how
to prevent diseases caused In har
vesting.
’
DRIVERS LICENSE
FEE
INCREASED
SALEM Motor vehicle operators
will be taxed another 25 cents a year
for their driver's license if the sen
se follows the lead of the House
which this week passed a measure
providing for the license fee Increase
which would go toward reimbursing
hospitals for the care of indigent
victims of traffic accidents.
Mother VWte
Mrs. Edward Leavitt, Lewiston,
Utah, arrived for a two weeks visit
with her son-in-law and daughter.
Mr. and Mrs. Kenneth Cottle
OilM Improve*
Lyle, young son of Mr. and Mrs
Kenneth Cottle Is able to be up
again following a severe attack of
pneumonia.
Dick H olm e* in
Dick Holmes who had apparently
recovered from a severe attack of
flu pneumonia suffered a relapee
this week and Is again confined to
his bed.
The American Legion working
through its 11,715 posts is going to
register all of its 1,078,118 members,
if possible, for national defense ser
vice. Unaffillated World War veter
ans also will be asked to register. The
registration will be entirely volun
tary. Its purpose is to provide the
local, state and national leadership
of the American Legion with a com
plete inventory of the assets of the
organization in manpower, experi
ence and special training that could
be made avallabel to the government
If needed in the defense of the na
tion.
The Nyssa Post No. 79 of the Am
erican Legion in this city will under
take to register all Legionnaires and
unaffillated World War veterans in
this community and surrounding
are*.
“This is a summons for possible
Important service to God and Coun
try whom we served as young men
in 1917-1818,” Commander Browne
of the local post said. “I feel cer
tain that every Legionnaire and
World War veterans generally will
welcome this opportunity of perhaps
doing another bit for their country.
We do not expect to be called for
active military service. Most of us
are beyond that age. But there are
many home defense duties to be
performed.
Dales Set for 1M1 CCC Enrollment
The enrollment dates for reglstra-
tion in the COC’s in Malheur coun
ty have now been set by the Mal
heur Public Welfare offices. There
are two enrollment periods. The reg
alar enrollment to be held on April 1
to April 20. July 1 to July 20 and
October 1 to Octobef 20.
Supplement enrollment which Is
made necessary o prevent the heavy
fluctation in CCC camp member
ship will be held on Feb 18 to 28,
May 20 to 31. Aug 20 to 31 and Nov.
20 to 30
Detailed Information and material
concerning application, enrollment
and CCC requirements may be had
at the Malheur County Public wel
fare office* at Ontario each day in
the wrek.
M PULP
DRYING PLANT
FOR NYSSA
The Amalgamated Sugar company
will, in the near future begin con
struction of a beet pulp drying plant
that will cost in the neighborhood
of $200,000 according to an announ
cement made by Ray G. Larson, dis
trict manager of the company, at a
meeting of the Nyssa Chamber of
Commerce Wednesday. Decision of
the Amalgamated Sugar company to
construct the drying plant Is based
on Its Interest In furthering dairy
ing In the district. The pulp when
dried would be sold to the farmers
at just enough to pay the cost of
the dehydration process. Larson
said. At the present time it is esti
mated that the dried pulp could be
sold to the farmers at something a-
round $15 per ton.
Another plan, still furthering
dairying, is that the company haa
devised which would create a dairy
cow finance fund. In this the comp
any would finance responsible and
qualified farmers In the purchase of
dairy herds. Just when this plan will
get under way. Larson said he could
not predict.
“The Amalgamated Sugar comp
any Is Interested in any plan that
will benefit the farmer and commu
nity in which it operates. In these
latest endeavors of the company we
are not Interested In profits so much
as we are In the financial success
of our farmers,” Larson said.
As no date for the beginning of
the construction has yet been set,
it Is Impossible to predict when the
drier plant will be completed, but
when It is. the Amalgamated Sugar
company will have a plant Invest
ment of close to $200,000.
Boy Scout Drive
Opens Feb. 19
The annual drive to raise funds
for the Nyssa Boy Scouts troop
will be started out with a breakfast
at Brownie Cafe next Wednesday
morning at 7 a. m. according to Her-
schel Thompson, general chairman.
Assisting Thompson are Wesley
Browne, commander of the Nyssa
post of the American Legion and
Cliff Main, member of the Nyssa
Lions club, the latter two serving
as captains of two teams composed
of nine persons.
The drive is being sponsored
Jointly by the Lions club and Ameri
can Legion during which it is hoped
to raise $7.50 for each Boy Scout in
Nyssa. This money will be used to
defray expense of the Ida.-Ore. Boys
Scout Council.
Fallowing the breakfast rally each
team «rill take to the field! and con
tact every business house and resi
dence in Nyssa.
The American Legion Troop of
Boy Scouts will assist the commute
members, under the direction of
Ralph Lawrence. Troop scoutmaster.
BOWLING TEAM STANDINGS
TEAM
Games Played
Played W. L.
Outlaws .......................a 19 •
Barbers ........ ................ .a 13 11
6 11 13
Edere
Journal ............
6 9 15
Grahams
b 5 18
Sugar Co............ ____ 5 11 9
Wilsons ............
5 11 •
Thompsons ...................5 n 9
THE BOWLER’S LAMENT
By Lawrence Blodgett
(Permission to reprint reserved)
You take four steps.
And then begin
To try to hit that old head pin;
You have the ball going
Down the line, •
And you’re sure this time,
It’s doing fine,
But Just before it hits the pins
To the left it begins.
You chalk your hands.
With a silly grin.
And swear that you won’t do that
again;
They send it back.
You grip It tight.
Then it goes to the right.
It’s not much fun to throw the ball.
And know your going to miss them
all.
So you leave the place.
With that silly grin.
And say you’ll never bowl again.
You go up town and walk around.
And you can hear the boys
A knockin' 'em doom;
You open the door
With the same old grin
And try again
For that old head pin.