REPLY TO MATERIALISTS
close with a few things on the main
I subject.
MOVING
The old contention of evolutionists
PICTURES
used to center in a sort of a Jellyfish
as a beginning but we do not hear mo
Published every Friday morning at Silverton,
Oregon, by
much about that these days. It was
contended by these debaters that the
J. E. HOSMER. Editor.
By Guy Fitch Phelps.
whole anunal, and 1 suppose the veg­
ENJOYED BY ALL—CHILDREN AND GROWN FOLKS
etable, kingdoms, as wo sue them to­
day, sprang from thi» organless mass.
Instructive and Educative.
In The Siherton Journal of Decem­ spleen which I have found in every Now, 1 uiu reminded of what an old
ber lltu is a little piece bj Mr. Van infidel I ever met. They (Material­ trapper once »aid in my hearing, after
Trump in w' ich he accuses, because ists) are so afraid their arguments listening tv a debate on Materialistic
he has nothing else to say, evidently, will lie met that they fly into a rage Evolution. Just as the debato was
of wilful falsehood. I have been look, i and snarl and bite on the first show drawing to a close he said: “Well, if
ing for an outburst of materialistic of sense. Oh, don’t deny it, 1 know everything that has life came fr m a
sp'een, and here it is. 1 have been you thoroughly. The last thing in jellyfish, I'd just like to see the old
telling the reader» of The Journal that tl-is w-'rld a Materialist wants to find woman who stewed the sus» to make
Entered at the poatoffie« at Silverton. Ore<on.
1 this homely bit of
Materialists were not after the truth, is that there is a God. Why? ? ? T tha Jelly.”
at second-<* law rate«.
Subscription. 50c per year, in advance. Single nor trying to settle whether there is There is so much abo t Ingersoll that philo-ophy is buund up the fcclish-
copies, 5 cents.
1 like, and he stood so bravely for so ness uf materialism. Those loud-
Advertising rates made known upon applica­ a God, but their whole contention is
tion.
many
good things that 1 regret thut voiced boa 'tars cry out against mir­
a bitter, unreasoning hatred of God
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he
charged
a dollar admittar.ee fur acles and call those who believe in
himself
This
article
is
a
fair
sample
This paper stand* for freedom of thought, free­
dom of the pre*«, freedom of apeech, equality of i of that spirit.
Pull up inifidelity, and all who came to get the light of reason them superstitious, etc., and then they
vj portunity and th« religion of rhrhteouane«*. It
All work done In the shortest
We STS equip­
If 1 should charge a dol­ come back in the next breath and tell
ia radically oppoeed to every form of superstition you will find the tap-root i» bitter­ from him.
ped
to
handle
all
kinds
of
furniture,
pianoa,
etc
M
with
very little
and tyranny, or licensing or permitting any form
us
that
unguided
by
reason
«r
any
ness against the infinite which has lar per head from widows and orphan«
of evil.
dsnger of sny damage done.
degree
of
intelligence
the
.nuinlesa
who
wished
to
hear
me
what
a
howl
its place in the breasts of infidels
fo-ces of nature nut only wrought out
themselves. Study this article and see would go up from Silverton.
No Load too Heavy for our Team* to Haul.
Then, last, comes the old saws about the billion . crfect adaptations of na­
if I am not right, I shall not reply
ture,
w?
h
all
the
means
to
ends,
but
Washington
and
Lincoln
being
infidels.
in kind, the culture of Christianity
Look in the Encyclopedia Britannica, actually crei.ted reason itself, which
forbids.
and see what it says about Washing- is greater than matter, and not mat­
He begirt by misquoting Pau* in
There are two very distinct classes
ton. It says that he was a strict erialistic at all. In order to establish
of newspapers in this country — two Rom. 3-7. Let the readers of this de­
member of the Episcopalian Chureh. tiiis view (?) they are forced to be­
extremes — and the public sets a bate turn in their Bibles and read the Then read what a man has to believe lieve in ten million nuruclos where the
chapter where this verse is found, and
different siardard for each.
when he j ins that church and . cu will Christian lias to accept one. 1 am
Just why, no one knows — but it they will discover that Paul is estab­ see how much ground infidels have on surprised that they can’t see this;
WE MUST GROW OK DIE!
lishing the very opposite of what Mr.
does.
this point. What d -es Mr. Van Trump o..iers can see it, und they should be
Van
Trump
seeks
to
prove.
Please
Of the one it requires truthfulness,
The Siherton Journal must keep its Subscription Iht
hope to gain by bluffing on that point ? able to. Materialist» believe that com­
read the 8th verse of this chapter, and
decency and moderation.
growing or it will surely die. We need your help, but we
Lincoln was not an infidel. His state mon matter created reason and the
Of the one it requires nothing — see that either he willfully put a papers show it; his letters show it; sentiments. But would that not be a
want to give even more than value received.
it just takes what is handed out and false meaning into Paul’s words or he hi» struggle during the war brings it miracle? Takj a handful of oarth in
Get us one or more at tifty cents a year.
Use
is not capable of seeing the truth. 1
1 oks for more;
the following blank:
out clearly that he looked to the In­ your hand ami conceive, if you can.
The great metropolitan daily gath­ am willing to believe the latter is the finite fcr help. Now to show that reason and mother love coming from
A FREE PRESS
ers up the news of the world and that f.ict. Paul is simply speaking cf the Mr. Van Trump is a bluffer, and guil­ it. More than that, taka a pound of
news is read at the breakfast table or beauty of righteousness, with sin for ty of dust th’" wing, I ask the s-hool dust und conceive a man springing
during the day, or after the evening a background. Thi» is a sample of children to get Lincoln’s Gettysburg from it spontaneously, even in a first
the sermons preached by Infidels.
meal.
speech, that classic of Anglo - Saxon cell. The cell is not there, end the
The reader seldom pauses to re­ Truly the Bible speaks the truth: literature, and they will find that close reason and love are not in the dust,
The subacription price ha* been changed from $1.00 to
member that reporters and editors “The natural man receiveth not the to the end of it he says: "That this so it follow» dial the dust could not
50 cents per year.
have warped and colored much of that things of God, for they are foolish­ nation, UNDER God, shall have a produce them. In order to believe
news up to satisfy the public craving ness unto him.” Now, I want my new birth of freedom.” Notice, Mr. that th'-se came from dust I am forced >
EDITOR OF SILVERTON JOURNAL,
for sensations. It may contain a few readers to take careful note of the Van Trump, he says that the nation to accept a stupendous miracle, which
SILVERTON, OREGON.
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fact
that
Mr.
Van
Trump
admits
that
grairs of truth and a few bushels of
wi>l have this new birth of freedom only the Christian idea of man’s cre­ • »
fake.
Paul lived, a thing Mrs. Bliven denies,
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. fur which »end THE JOURNAL to
Enclosed find >
“UNDER GOD.” Do you see where ation will justify. The fact» are simp- • >
The country’ paper gathers up the for she said the Council of Nice in­
he puts Deity in his national ideals ? ly these: The Materialist wonts you . > the following:
news of the home community and vented Christ, the Bible and God. Did you never read that before? to believe that unaided, unguided, un­
Name
sends it forth on press day. That news
He accuses me of telling what is nrt Whom did you think you were writing reasoning force, did what only Infin-
must be TRUE or the editor’- reputa­ true regarding the Materialistic
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to when y->x insisted that Lincoln be­ ite Intelligence and Power could pos­
tion for veracity is ruined and his School at Silverton. Let me be very- longs to your mud church with its sibly do, and yet they tell us that
career of usefulness is at an end.
Name
frank in the matter. I re«rived my dirf god? But Christianity does not those who believe in the supernatural
Faults that are condoned or en- information fr m a gentleman who stand or fall by Lincoln or any other are superstitious! ! -^'hey are given to
Add re»»
tirely overlooked in the big daily are was, and is well acquainted with the
man. It must speak for itself. If Mr. talking much about things being cre­
unanimously condemned in the humble facts and whose word I certainly think
Name
Lincoln had been an out-and-out in­ ated and worked out by law. And this
weekly.
stands as high as Mr. Van Trump’s fidel, Christianity would go on the is some more of their shallow reason­
Addreaa
The city daily often builds up a anywhere, in view of this last article
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same splendid thing it is now. I ap- ing. Law works nothing out. Law is ■ ►
tremendous circulation by pandering of his. Thi» man told me incidentally ' preci ate the troubles the Materialists a method, nothing more, that which < ► Name
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to one of the worst elements in hu­ how quite a number of those who1 are in, and I do not blame them for executes law is reason, purpose and < >
manity — the insatiable desire* for were prominent materia'ists of Silver-
Addreaa
trying to borrow a few decent folks p rso..olity. Do the laws of a state
scandal.
ton who did commit suicide and seeing f from the church, for they certainly enforce themselves? No. Neither do
Name
The country weekly builds up its that it is simply this man’s word
the laws of nature. It is intell i- • »
need them.
circulation by catering to a higher against Mr. Van Trump’s, I prefer
Addreaa ..
Now a word in regard to the state­ gent life in nature which rnakca the
plane of citizenship by the dissemina­ to believe he told the trutn to the
ment that Lincoln wrote a harmony laws of nature operative. Darwin said: ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦ ♦♦♦♦♦♦ ♦ ♦ ♦ ♦ ♦ ♦ ♦ ♦.♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦ ♦ ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦ ♦♦ ♦ ♦ ♦
tion of facts in its news columns, by best of his ability. And I am willing
of the gospels. I did not say that he "If there was the least variation in
rigid adherence to truthfulness in its to investigate the matter when op­
did. I said that he was not an Infidel, the gradual development of a species
utterances.
portunity affords, and if it appears and that Jefferson arranged a har­ the whole would fall into ruins.” 1
The world has apparently learned that the gentleman was mistaken in
mony of the Gospels, which is true, for have emoodied his thought in my own
to expect about a certain amount of his information, and that all who su> -
I have examined the book. If the edi­ words. He is correct, speaking for
fakery, exaggeration, sensationalism, ported the Infidel College at Silverton
tor of The Journal has my copy it will evolution. And right here comes in
and sensuality in the metropolitan died like "a serene autumn,” then I
be seen that I did not say that Lin­ the credul’ty of Materialists, for they
daily — though happily there are a shall be very glad to admit my mis­
coln wrote such a book. I noticed base their whole system on almost in­
few dailies that are disappointing to take, for I assure you the cau*>e of
when the paper came out that the finite changes of life and habits, which
thoir readers in this respect, they are Christianity does not rest on how any
printer
had somehow left out the line have produced the organs and ampu­
decent.
God-rejector may live or die, or wheth. which made it read just like I had tated the tails, and then they declare
Of the country weekly it demands er they live or not. Mr. Van Trump
for MAX BURGHOLZER'S new book of 32 paCes
said Lincoln wrote the book. Mr. Van in the next breath that there has nev­
the traversing of the straight and assumes a good deal when ie inti­
Trump is excusable in what he said er been the slightest deviation from
narrow path — the elimination of mates that I know the history of the
on this point, but it should teach him a perfect unfolding of forms, and con­
suggestive and questionable matter — School at Silverton. It was not so
that in other things where he is quite fess that had there been their whole
the pub’ication of a sheet which would in portant as all that. And hard as it
fast to charge a minister with false- system would fall into ruins. Talk
not shock Christ if he came to earth. may be on his vanity, I must confess
hood he may also be wrong, It al- about absurdity, credulity and mir­
Why the doub'e standard?
that I never knew that he was con­ ways pays to go slow in calling men acles! If that is not unreasonable then
nected with that school — a very liars, and snarling and snapping after I am unable to understand what would
be. And yet these are the people who
doubtful hon r—till I read this issue the manner of God-rejectors.
of The Silverton Journal. Nor did I
I call the attention of the readers snarl and hiss and rant about some­
ev er hear of him till this debate gave of The Journal to the fact that Mr. body else being superstitious and be­
Dad komvs that Christmas is com­
him a chance. I am sorry I was so Van Trump, who is the only gladiator lieving in miracles. Then after they
ing and so does your mother and your
It’s a good one to read and pas* to a neighbor.
ignorant of important events, Mr. Van who appears in this issue to represent have worked out their system of mil­
brothers and sisters. And we all
Trump, but we should not be held res­ the camp of Philistines, is completely lions of miracles, they throw the whole
know just what will please you m^st.
ponsible for what we do not know, a off the subject. We were debating on thing to the scrapheap in death, and mtum»uun»>»»ntHtn»n»n»»nn iiiii imn»n i n»n i in i nnni iiiiii iiiu>t nm«OT
So, from present appearances, you are
fact which should give Mr. Van Trump Materialistic Evolutie , and here he their beautiful house of miracles lies
not to be disappointed. But you seem
no end of consolation. I venture that goes, tryirg to show that Ingersoll in ruins. And they tell me that is
to have the wrong point of view about
not one man in ten thousand in Ore­ did not repent of his sins at the end, reasonable! Reason has only the facts
Christmas, honey, and I want to set
gon could tell the history of the little a thing better men have done. For I of being to rest upon, and such the­
you right. Christmas is the season for
defunct effort at running something tell you, Mr. Van Trump, it takes a ories are contrary to the foundation I have the manuscript of a book to the audience, and that each debater
g-ving. Got that? The real hap­
correct, also, Christmas exercises. shall huve the right to chose one
without God—which died, as all such braver man to look up and say, "God facts of reason itself.
piness lies in planning what you are
things die—at Silverton. And the il­ I have sinned against heaven and in
Now a word about the challenge Then the month of January is to be Judge, and these a third, who shall not
going to do for others and then doing
lustrious gentleman who was once at thy sight, and am no more worthy to which appears in this issue of The given to revival meetings here in the reside in the community where the
it. The real Christmas spirit fills
the head of this institution, and who be called thy son,” than to swavger Journal (Silverton). I notice it reads: church, with all the other work which debate is held; and who shall, as far
only those whose thoughts are upon
died honored in America and Europe out into the future with a spirit of "Materialism vs. Theism.” I accept I must do. But this will not matter, as possible l>e neutral in his views of
the happiness they hope to bestow
(?), certainly had no cause to feel bravado. Try it, my friend.
this challenge, and will meet Mr. as Mr. Van Trump assured me that Religion und Materialism. If possiible,
upon their friends and upon the un­
that his honor was a result of his
I will conclude this article wit)^ Cantrell the last of March or the first the debate would be held at my con­ too, I wish we might have the debate
fortunates who think they have no
co- nection with said school.
somethi g on the line of the general of next April, on the following points: venience. I shall be pleased to meet taken down iu shorthand, and pub­
fr.ends. It’s not so much what you
Re olved, that Materialistic Evolu­ Mr. Cantrell on the points I have lished afterwards. This, of course, is
discussion
w'lic’.i called this debate
I had to smile when I read where
give as to whom you give. There’s a
named, which are certainly the home­ a mere feature of the debate, and not
poor woman living around the corner. Mr. Van Trump says that he is 45 into being. I am determined that tion is Unscientific, unproved and un­
necessary. I await the earliest reply
diamond
of Materialism.
reasonable.
That
Nature
proves
the
No one is thinking of what she would years old, in his right mind, and able Materialists shall have the chance to
of the Materialists as to whether Mr.
I
am
willing
to
meet
Mr.
Cantrell
in
existence
of
Infinite
personality,
Pow
­
fight
for
their
darling
hobby,
mat
­
like for Chri tmas. She’d be the sec­ to tell the truth. If self praise ig half
Silverton, but I ask as my right that Cantrell will meet me on his own
ond happiest woman in town if you scandal, then he is in line for his own erialistic evolution, on a fair field, er, Plan and Intelligence. We will see
the debate be held in one of the challenge.
if
Mr.
Cantrell
will
meet
me
on
these
were to walk in on her early Christ­ promotion. But the thing which made '"hey have boasted and presumed and
churches there. I think this is fair-
points.
taken
the
ignorance
of
the
average
me
sm'le
was
his
boast
that
he
had
mas morning with a gift of something
I received a letter from Mr. Van If I go to that town, fairness would
warm for her to wear. The happiest been connected with the Silverton reader so much for granted that I
FOR isALE
Trump
which contained practically suggest that concession. Churches are
pr
pose
that
they
shall
face
their
woman would be my little girl who School and had weathered it through
well
lighted
and
comfortable.
I
am
On Oregon City car line, most
brings it. There is old Black Jim who to 45 without committing suicide. make — belief and absurdities and what is embodied in this challenge,
quite sure the Christian Church will beautiful ride near Port'and, »uJendid
sho’-els the snow and carries out the Congratulations, Mr. Van Trump, prove them if they can. I am not with five additional points, and in my
be available to us. We will see now car service, 2 blocks from car. 4
ashes. Never thought of him ? Well, congratulations. But I suppose it is a surprised that Van Trump refers to reply to him, which was to be for­
whether Mr. Cantrell will accept the room boungalow, 2 large lots 50x188,
think of him to the extent of a pair fact that some men suffer I*«» from me as the “Rit. Rev.,” and snarls that warded to Mr. Cantrell, I suggested
challenge
which his friends have is­ young orchard, family fruit, garden,
five
points
for
debate.
But
since
the
of warm mittens. Knit them yourself. a bad conscience than others. I leave I am a liar, because that is what lies
sued in his name. I believe this is chicken house and large chicken park,
Don’t know how? Your mother will Mr. VanTrump to make his own appli­ ready in their war-sack, and when Materialists have issued theirchallenge
another bluff by which the infidels beautiful flowers and shrubery. H
start you. It will be twice as much cation. It is true that some preachers they can’t meet in fair debate the under the «hove caption, I withdraw
around
Silverton wish to make a show mile from river, righ and sightly, fine
the
other
points
and
accept
the
chal
­
points
of
an
adversary
they
descend
fun for j ou and old Jim’s look of will lie, but no Christian will lie. See,
gratitude when you give them to him, Mr. Van Trump? The little story to such stuff as makes up the child­ lenge on the two points I have named. of reply, for you will notice they have view, th’s can be bought for |1600 on
will repay you more than all the fine about the man who said that Mr. In­ ish weepings of this article of Van I do this because Nature and Evolu­ replied to nothing in the paper dis­ Installment plan, small payment
phrases of all the young squirts to gersoll recanted on his deathbed has Trump’s. He should be ashamed of it, tion is the heart of Materialism, and cussion. I hope I am mistaken. I shall down, balance like rent, This is an
whom you send neckties they won’t nothing to do with the case. I have and reform. Let him come up like a the whole matter stands or falls by be glad to meet the issue on its merits ideal home and easy to get. Cascade
wear and pin cushions they won’t use. never believed he did; although Mr. man and meet the issue, and if he these two things. If the being of God and if the truth is with Materialism, Real Estate Co.
Try Dad’s prescription, Daughter, and Olin Ross’ article half admitted it. can heat the game on fair grounds I is proved, Materialism comes crashing if there is no God in this Universe,
1 the earth, for in its very nature the then I am as old as I wish to be with­
you’ll be the happiest girl in town But whether he did Or not is out of shall shake his hand and he his friend; to
Dr. Heisley’s days in Silverton,
two cannot exist together. I will af­ out knowing it. I demand also, that
but
if
he
can
’
t
do
that,
then
he
Is
not
'
Christmas day. You will find that it court. What has that to do with the
Monday,
Wednesday, and Fridays.
the
debate
shall
be
conducted
accord
­
isn’t getting what you want for Christ- so-called science (?) of evolution? the man to "push himself in" where firm the two points throughout the
Office
over
Preston’s Sh p, leave calls
ing
to
the
strict
rules
of
decorium,
debate.
It
will
be
impossible,
how
­
m»s that makes for real joy. You'll Mr. Van Trump, are you able to log­ he was not invited. Thus having i
at the shop. At Woodburn othei
that
both
speakers
shall
be
given
per
­
ever,
as
I
wrotd
Mr.
Van
Trump,
to
turned
aside
to
notice
his
article,
an
'
ically
debate
evolution,
or
Theism?
or
discover something. That’s all right.
would you prefer to indulge that honor which it does not merit, I will take part in the debate this month. fectly quiet and respectful hearing by da vs.
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