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    MATERIALIST COLUMN
Edited by Ehi* Mowry Uliveti, Brook­
lyn, Conn.
A REPLY TO KEV. MR. PHELPS
Thu dilliculty in replying to Mr.
1’hulp» ii nut bocaua* any one thing
ho »ay», aa * rule, 1» hard to anawer,
but in boiling down into ■ »pace aa
»hurl *» our aide fit allowed in The
Journal, a long airing of aaaertiona.
He cuine» al one in u aort ol tuniultu-
ou>, mob faahiou, a heiler-akeller, tail-
(orinoal, head-end backward aort ut
way, though outalde of thia fault lie
writ a well. To tuke up each aa»er-
tion in detail and anawer it would re­
quire a whole newapaper.
In the iaaue of The Journad for Oc­
tober 2nd ho gave ua a long hat of
acientiata who upheld the biblical ac­
count of creation, including Uutnboldt
and Cuvier. He certainly got hia in­
formation out of the rehgioua newa-
pupera, for the alatement ia out of
hurmony with the generally accepted
viewa of acientiata, aa well aa a large
portiou of the ininialry itaeif. Take
Humboldt; After hia return from hi»
world tamoua tour», he delivered aixty
^lecture» on the Coamoa, and in the lot
he did not mention a God once aa hav-
nig had u hand in creation, so it ia
»aid by thoae who have examined
them. To inhdeia and alheiata he ia al-
waya one of their number. It ia not
likely that he at any time taught auch
a doctrine. However, Hugh Miller
did undertake to harmoiuxe ac rip lure
with geology, aa ahown, eapecially in
hia book, “The Teatirnony of the
Rocka," but he moat certainly failed.
Literary men, 1 think, generally admit
that he failed to establish their har­
mony, though there are a lot of people
who do not think ao, just aa there are
atill immense number» of people who
^believe in ghoata, palmistry, fortune
"telling, aatrology and omen*.
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In the iaaue for October 9th Mr.
Phelp» undertakes to belittle evolution
and quotea Huxley, Sir Charles Bell,
Sir David Brewater, etc. Even if hia
quolationa are correct, which 1 do not
concede, for 1 think that they are on
a parity with the oft quoted authority
thut Baine and Ingeraoll recanted on
their death beda, which Mra. ingeraoll
and her daughter deny under oath.
Aa to Col. ingeraoll it must be re-
inembered that men al a later age of­
ten time* disaffirm what they had »aid
at an earlier. After the Darwinian
theory was announced there wa» a
world of conflicting opinion, but at a
later date moat acientiata and very
many clergymen accepted it, aa for in­
stance the well known Kev. Dr. Waah-
irigton Gladden, if Huxley ever de­
nied the truth of evolution, and that
ia what Mr- Plielpa ia wanting to make
clear, he certainly accepted the theory
later, for it ia the very eaaence of hia
celebrated book, “Man’a Place in Na-
ure," in which he ahowa and di»-
cusses the connection between man
and the man-like apes.
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Mr. Phelpa claim» that man haa not
changed »Ince hi» flrat appearance on
earth, which he aaya waa not till after
»he ice age, which wax a recent event.
And, yet in the very preceding para­
graph he gleefully claim* that aince
1610 the average height of Engliah
aoidiera haa decreased six inchea and
that tome pre-historic men were from
aix to ten feet high, all of which
show», if true, that the atature of men
change». Men do change. How any
one can claim that they do not in the
face of the presence of the different
rucea and of their mental and phyaicai
levelopment, 1 cannot understand, ex­
cept on the ground of perversity.
Horses and cattle are changed by the
breeders. This ia done by artificial
•elect^n.
According to
Darwin,
changes were made by natural selec­
tion. The wolf has lieen changed into
the faithful and obedient dog. Bur­
bank has worked wonderful transfor­
mations in the fruit and vegetable
^a orlds. Changes in environment have
Wrobably been the cause of the
changes in the complexion and char­
acteristics of men. The desert of
Sahara is undoubtedly responsible for
the negro race. It is said that there
are black Jews living along the Sahara
whose ancestors came from Palestine.
What has made the difference be­
tween .he Bushman of Australia and
the Caucasian like Humboldt, Haeckel,
Pasteur, Webster and Lincoln, for
there is a difference! Surely, Phelps’
God did not make the Bushman with
his low mentality and at the same
time make the Caucasians, Humboldt,
Lincoln and Webster. If he did, why
did he make the difference ? I remem­
ber reading a while back about the
Neanderthal skull, and of another
skull more recently found, but which
antedated the other. These skulls,
which belonged to people far back in
the history of the earth, are not high
type skulls. Some have called them
the skulls of the missing link, and yet,
after all, there are scientists and
thinkers who claim that there is a
^Jtigger difference between the lowest
W>rder of man today and the highest,
than there is between the lowest man
and the higher type of the man-like
apes.
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in the October 9 th iaaue, Mr. Phelps
sneer» at Mr». Uiiven a explanation as
to me eye; unu comniuiiua, impliedly,
the supposed god-inuuu eye. And tins
remind» me tnal i have had some cor­
respondence with bir Hiram Maxim,
the inventor of smuXcle»» powder, Lite
maclime gun, and it is claimed the real
inventor of the incandescent light sys­
tem. Last winter he »ent me a copy
of the Pall Mali Gaxelte containing tus
reply to u distinguished English cler­
gyman on the design theory, 't he min­
ister cluimed that as the telescope and
flying machine showed a designer, so
did the lark and the human eye show
a greater designer. 1 will quote only
a line or ao of this reply;
ciaa, and their variation. 1 would also
that Mr. Huxley was buried with
REPLYTO MATERIALISTS »ay
the Chriatian burial service of the
ruigiiah Church, and the fifteenth
chapter of First Corinthian* was read
over him. If Mr. Van Trump asks for
In Th* Silverton Journal of October
my authorities in making these state­
30th there are two replies to me by
ments, I will be glad to send them in.
materialists; on by b. it. Vun 'J rump
Meantime let him explain the two at­
and the other by Otto Wett»tcin. 1
titudes of evolutiun on the question of
will take up the Van Trump article
the horse.
first. There is very little in either
He says that some of the men I re­
that reuily merit» cunsiderution for the
simple reason that the writers lake ferred to died lief ore the evidence of
good care to keep clear of the reul evolution became known, and yet none
of them have been dead over a cen­
issue in tiie case.
No, 1 du not know all that ia to be tury. This »howii, by hia own admis­
known about “these profound sub­ sion, that evolution is a hodge-podge
jects.” 1 lay no claim to »uch knowl­ of infidels seeki lg to build univerae
“The Doctor compares the modern edge; but 1 have gone into the matter without the Infinite, and that it ia of
flying niitciiine with the lark, very far enough to know PERFECTLY very recent date. But strange to say
luucn to tiie disadvantage ul tne lor- that Maleraiism and Evolution are just that Darwin—who got moat of views
iner, and the ■.«.-scope of Galileo he blufla put up by thos* who have a from another man by his name who
compares to the eye behind 1U the senseless, bitter desire to build a uni­ lived before him—wa» born in 1809,
flying machine bus been developed ui verse without the aid of u Supreme died in 1808. Thus we see that I
abuul twenty year» and there might Being. 1 have talked to hundred» of Darwin and Brewster lived their ,
have been a hundred failures. It look infidels and without exception 1 have lives together. Thia is a sample !;
nature mure than twenty iniliiuns ui found them DETK1MENTED not to of the take-it-for-granted way infidels ■
yours with many billiun» of failures to be convinced or to admit anything ar* in the habit of putting up their ’:
develop the lark, and the same muy be contrary to their views. 1 he last tiung fact». 1 have plenty of name» of men ■
said of Galileo's telescope and the eye un earth a materialist wants to find is to present backing my position and j
of the observer.“ ••••*!/ ever) that there is a God in tins universe— against materialism, but 1 will wait
till Mr Van Trump disposes of the
plant grows and every living thing has Why ? ? ?
been designed, it follows that he tuu»l
Evolutiun IS NOT A SCIENCE. twenty or more 1 have given. He re- >
have designed many living tilings Is Science i* founded on facts, so is faith. fer» me to Earnest Haec si aa a
prey off mankind.” Then he speaks ut Seeing that NOT ONE POINT Oh worthy authority. But 1 would remind
the mosquito, the flea, the tse-tse fly, EVOLUTION HAS BEEN DEFIN­ him that Haeckel and Darwin did not
venomous snakes and the more deadly ITELY PROVED AND ESTABLISH­ agree at all in their theories. Darwin
annnalculae, lucludmg the terrible tu­ ED, even to the satisfaction of evolu­ believed in a Divine beginning of the
berculosis germ. Were they designed tionists themselves, it follows that it original life, or form-cells, and that
by a wise and loving God to prey ofl cannot be a science Mr. Van Trump life came from antecedent life; while
mankind, etc. »••••• '¡ here is not evidently does not recognize the differ­ Haeckel advanced the theory that life
a man, and there never has been one, ence between science and a working came from spontaneous generation, a
who can show the least tangible evi­ hypothesis. Let me say heie that tiie theory which no real scientist of today
dence that tnere is anything other than evuiutlun vf the horse 1“ considered the believes at all. Let Mr. Van Trump
material in the uiuverse. Remove all clearest case in all Uie claims of evo­ explain these contradictions if he can.
the material, and what would be left! lution, and this is utterly uverthrow n But he will do well not to quote from
An infinitely cold, dark, black and si­ by the fact that according to evolu­ Haeckel.
lent vacuum; there would be no up, tionists themselves the horse has de­
He challenges me to show anything
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nor down, no right nor left; heat, light, veloped from the complex to the sim­ in nature that has not gone through a
electricity and the attractiun uf gravi­ plex, or from the many organs to the process of evolution, and then speaks
tation are only properties of matter— few; whereas, the whole theory of of the soil a» an illustration. How'
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remove the matter, and they would all evolution stands or falls by the very happy the thought. The ground prov­
cease to exist.” 1 would like to extend reverse of this. They claim the first ing evolution I His illustration proves
Boom formerly occupied by H. E. Brown
tiie quotation and »ay something my­ hone had several toes, and he lost that he has none. I will simply Btate
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self, but 1 remember the apace.
them all and came to a hoof, and this that there is no evidence that any liv-,
happened while all the toes were in ing form, either tree or animal, has
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use. Will evolution please tell us how ever been anything but what it is in
On October 16th Brother tü-, s
evolution could produce toes on a its own species. The first we knoig of
goes into ecstatic rapture over the
limb because they were needed, and any form or animal it was just what
great doing* of the church, over mis­
then discard them while in use? Mr. it is now, and behind that positive
sionary work, etc., and wants to know
Van Trump is invited to take a few knowledge evolutionists simply
what the unbeliever haa done. Wall,
weeks ofl and give us an answer. And “guess,"as Mrs. Bliven admitted. Bring
1 can tell him. He has by “bucking"
One acre, half in clover, an 8-room house, city water
yet he tells us that Huxley came pret­ on your half developed forms; set up
your Bible and its God made this
ty near establishing the evolution of your half shaped human bodies just
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yard, good well, 40 young fruit trees, 15 old
world fit to live in. Your Bible and
the horse. Remember, now, that the throwing off the ape features; bring
ones, chicken house, fine Jersey cow, 35 chickens,
your God and your church took the
hone is considered the very best case us a floating eye, or ear, or tadpole
great Athenian and Roman civilisa­
grapes, good barn—everything for only $3250.
evolutionists have to present, and which is becoming a fish, and we will
tions, and in the course of a few hun­
when stripped of their cant it ia utter­ believe. I return his challenge by ask­
Easy terms. No better bargain in Silverton! See
dred year* almost destroyed them,
and plunged Europe into the dark j ly devoid of reason or scientific facts. ing him to show one thing that has
us over the Journal office.
1 challenge the world of evolutionists ever evolutionized at all. I happen to
age». Who else did it but your boasted
to controvert what 1 have said here on know that evolutionists have not got
preserver, the church? It was in the
’his point. We are told that all form» the facts to present, and they know it,
saddle all during this long, black his­
evolutionized up from the lower forms; and their bluff comes a little late. It
tory and ruled with an iron hand.
that one cell became many cell* and is very easy for infidels to talk glibly
b
Thia singing of panegyrics on the simple forms became complex forms; about how all things have come up
church ia a good deal like singing the till the body of a man appeared with from the lower forms. That’s easy, but
•weet songs of, “Jesus Love,” etc. its thousands of ports and features, to set out the evidnee is quite another
around a pulyit smothered with roses, and yet in the case of the horse, be­ thing, and when we ask them to do
while just underneath it are victims cause materialists are short on facts, so they usualy begin to tell us what
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screaming and «writhing on rucks and they tell ua that the whole law of a bad lot preachers are and what a
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other instruments of church torture. evolution was reversed, and that the dandy boy Tom Paine was. And yet
Why, my dear Mr. Phelps, there is hone oegan with perhaps five toes, these are the oiks who talk about rea­
nothing on earth today that has gut and shed them all but one, which turned son and hoot at Christianity as super­
the long, black, devilish history back into a hoof And this is the very best stition.
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of it that the subject of your ecstatic Evolution has to give the world. What
Mr. Van Trump misquotes me. I did
rapture has. Even the history of Mo­ a foundation for the reason! Did mat­
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loch and the Atzec war god pale into erialists, who tell us of the easy glide n t say people had to have a God to
be
moral
(which
would
be
true,
doubt
­
In the Design and Construction ofbeaut-
insignificance beside your church his­ cf evolution, never hear of the trouble
iful homes, business houses, schools
tory, for their ignorant devotees only Darwin had of finding the connecting less). What I did say-or ask was:
and churches.
burnt and immolated. Yours tortured link between men and apes ? Who has “Can there be any right or wrong if
there is no God?” Mrs. Bliven tried to
and gloried in the torture.
bridged that gulf? Not one. Let mat­ answer this by saying that men learn­
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Talk about what infidels,—the un­ erialist* roost a little closer to the ed right and wrong through commerce.
believers, the “buckers,” against your ground till they have something to One man had a thing and another
book and the inspired, sayings of your present.
wanted it. This led to the defense of
God,—have done! Why, bless you, who
Mr. Van Trump challenges my ref­ rights. But the trouble with this is been a reason. But that has nothing that the eye never had a beginning,
got rid of iron boots, thumb screws, erence to Huxley. 1 quoted him cor­ that it would be just as right for the to do with evolution and materialism.
that it has existed from eternity. I
racks, black stakes, spiked collars and rectly; 1 did not say he was not an
man to want the object as for the man Paine beileved in a God, and defended would like to have Mr. Wettstein’s
other pet educational agencie» of your evolutionist, but that he repudiated
to keep it so both would be right or the idea. Please drop Paine from the picture, for he is certainly a curious
divine institution? Not the priests Darwin’s theories of tne origin of spe wrong. There can be no right or wrong argument. All the good he knew he
materialist. Then he declares: Watch­
and preachers who practiced these gen­
if there is no infinite Holy God in the got from Christianity. Ingersoll was es need a maker, man does not, “he
tle arta; not these but the unbelievers,
universe moral. This is clear to the son of a clergyman; Darwin was just growed up.” Brilliant, transcend­
those who had to fight your church’s that has lit up tne world and made life
educated in Christ’s College. Sc was ent. But excuse me, Mr. Wettstein, I
thinkers.
worth
living,
and
every
infidel
is
a
religious notions. After flaying and
Now comes Tom Paine once more. Mr. Van Trump educated in a school thought you just said man never had
burning, quartering and hanging near­ friend of science. Can you say the
It is laughable to see infidels which is the product of Christianity, a beginning, that he always existed as
ly a million of women on the charge isme of every Christian ?
In
the
October
9th
issue,
you
speak
parade their prophet. How short they for heathen did not have any, and do a part of nature? NEXT.
of witchcraft, so it is estimated, in
not have any, worthy of the name.
Europe, after your church got into of evolution and use the words, "Dar­ must be for timber. It would take
After looking over Mr. Wettstein’s
FOR ^ALE
win
fell
in
there
and
drowned,
theory
Christians a long time to give a list
power, who made it safe for a woman
article
I
find
there
is
nothing
in
it
and
all.
”
Why
did
you
so
gleefully
say
of
their
worthy
members,
but
infidels
On
Oregon
City car line, most
to live where the Gospel was preached?
Not the believers in the book, for it that? I can tell you. You had been have one real saint—Tom Paine. Well, worthy of an answer. I surmise he is beautiful ride near Port1and, splendid
taught witchcraft. It said in Exodus, trained to hate science, and you now I assure my friend that I am glad a Jew by his name, and would suggest car service, 2 blocks from car. 4
“Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.’’ wanted science to fail. Why do you to learn that Paine was not a drunk­ that do noc disgrace his nation. He room boungalow, 2 large lots 50x138,
Witchcraft had to be overthrown by speak of this latter day science like ard. I don’t want that to be a fact. Far asks me to “define my God” and he young orchard, family fruit, garden,
those who repudiated the book as an as your church used to speak of the ,be it from me to gloat over it if it were will prove my views are “childish and chicken house and large chicken park,
authority on women’s lives. In the theories of Galileo, of Copernicus and true. Moreover, the moral character absurd.” I will do so in part and then beautiful flowers and shrubery. Si
fight against superstition, torture and Kepler, except that you want it to fail of Paine proves nothing for evolution. he can come along. The character of mile from river, righ and sightly, fine
In fact I wish some one would prove God the Father is just like that of his view, th s can be bought for $1600 on
inhuman cruelty, one Voltaire, the as it wanted them to fail ?
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that Paine was an evolutionist. He son, Jesus Christ our Lord. He is all- Installment plan, small payment
infidel, was worth all the church, just
You want to know what infidels was bom of good Qauker parents, and w:se, perfectly holy, and all-powerful. down, balance like rent. This is an
as one Wendel Phillips was worth all
the southern orators and newspapers, have done. Do you know that Wash­ believed there was a God. His works He has laws and these laws are based ideal home and easy to get. Cascade
on his character. The transgression Real Estate Co.
for freeedom. But that is not all. ington, Paine, Jefferson and Franklin defend eigtheenth century Deism. How
of
them brings death and ruin, and to
do
materialists
like
that?
Paine
was
Who persecuted the astronomers? were all, practically, infidels — that
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Who called chemistry the black art? Paine’s ideas as to the Bible and Chris­ not a modem materialist at all. That obsere them peace and health. Now *
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on
with
your
proof.
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Who fought geology and then later tianity were largely those of the other he was the loyal friend of the liberty
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Mr.
Wettstein
says
nature
is
eternal,
of
man
I
am
glad
to
admit.
And
that
on claimed it for its own and tried three? Do you know that both Grant
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-o harmonice it with the moth-eaten and Lincoln were unbelievers in church he did as much as any man of his class never was created. That is the nature
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Mosaic account? Who hates science beliefs, and yet this country owes a to strengthen the cause of liberty 1 we see about us has been so from
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eternity,
trees,
animals,
grass,
all
am
glad
to
say.
He
was
a
man
of
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good
sized
debt
to
these
six
men.
to this day and wishes it ill ? Who has
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forms
of
life
and
creatures
of
life
are
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been the arch enemy ot the liberty of Cornell University, Girard College, the great ability, and did much for the
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just
what
they
have
always
been.
cause
of
freedom.
If
I
had
marched
Salem
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thought? JVho has been in favor of Smithsonian Institution at Washing­
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religious persecution, of ostracism, of ton, the great Lick Observatory, and with him in the ranks of Washington, There never was a beginning, so he
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the boyco*. for opinion’s sake? Who other public benefactions were estab­ as thousands of Christians did, I says. Well, well, how will Mrs. Bliven
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and
Olin
Ross,
and
the
rest
like
that?
should
have
doubtless
hailed
him
as
a
defended slavery on the authority of lished by unbelievers. Even the great
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a book, a book that was writti n by giver of libraries is said to be an un­ brother worthy and true in the cause And what becomes of evolution, if Mr.
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Wettstein
is
correct?
Ah,
materialists
of
liberty.
I
take
his
hand
in
spirit
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a semi-savage people? Who hates the believer in your church doctrines. In
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Wettstein
is
correct
?
Ah,
materialists
and
credit
him
with
all
he
did
for
man.
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modern investigator in the domain of proportion to rheir numberi, the fro -
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science, if perchance he should go con­ thinkers have done more for humanity Yet it is a fact that he turned the are a flashing bunch. What harmony­
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in
their
views.
Mrs.
Biven
said
that
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grateful
people
of
this
land
against
Salem
trary to the ignorant dictums of “the than any other class, far more. They
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book?” Why, who else, but your very have made life worth living on the him, so much so that even Washington the eye began by the sun falling on
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mass
of
protoplasm,
and
so
all
eyes
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refused to seek to liberate him from
Columbus, O., October 27.
benevolent church ? Why, my dear Sir, globe.
have
come.
But
Mr.
Wettstein
tell*
us
prison
in
France,
and
there
must
have
Olin J. R om .
it has been science and knowledge
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