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NEW YORK lUPIl The pub
lishing of college football odds,
both in newspapers and football
cards, has been denounced as a
demoralizing influence upon the
"kids playing the game" by John
Bateman, head coach at Rutgers
University.
Tom Nugent, coach of Mary
land, and Joe Foss. president of
the American Football League,
supported Bateman at Monday's
football writers' meeting.
Nugent said the printing of odds
had a "reverse psychological ef
fect on my team" and Foss said
that "any remedy, no matter how
small, should be tried" to prevent
a gambling scandal.
Bateman pointed out that he
was not concerned with the big
bettor, because they "always can
find out the odds," but he was
concerned about the small bettor.
He pointed out that "fraternity
brothers bet $5 on them at the
published odds and the players
feel they're letting down their
friends if they don't win by the
point-spread."
"We've got to pressure down
the gambling." Bateman said,
"and If we reduce gambling by
one-tenth of one per cent it's
worth it."
Nugent, whose team lost to
Maryland, 14-8, last Saturday,
said, "this is no alibi, but the
word got to the kids that the odds
makers didn't think we could pass
in the rain.
"And it was a psychological dis
advantage," he said, "we couldn't
pass in the rain. I'm certain that
being picked by two and three
touchdowns had its effect on us."
Foss revealed the AFL was par
ticularly alert and wary against
a gambling scandal and said he
had a lie detector which he would
use without hesitation in any con
troversy which might hurt the
league.
Mercy Bowl
Draws Okay
From NCAA
NEW YORK lUPlt - The
Mercy Bowl Game in Los Ange
les, a benefit for victims of the
1960 California Poly air disaster,
was among IS post-season foot
ball contest officially certified to
day by the National Collegiate
Athletic Association (NCAA1.
The total of 15 games equals
the highest since the immediate
post-war period, the NCAA an
nounced. It was not certain, how.
ever, that all certified games
would be played. Of the 15 games
certified in 1959, 12 were played,
and of 12 approved last year, one
was cancelled.
Bowl games approved for the
first time in addition to the
Mercy Bowl were the Aviation
Bowl at Dayton. Ohio, and the
National Trophy Bowl at Wash
ington. D.C.
New York's Gotham Bowl, ap
proved last year but nevei
played, is again on the list.
The Mercy Bowl will be played
for the benefit of the victims of
the airplane crash at Toledo.
Ohio, which took the lives of 16
members of the California Poly
technic Institute football team
last Oct. 29 upon their return
from a game against Bowling
Green.
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For SOC
The Oregon Tech Owls are giv
ing their passing defensive struc
ture no little attention as they
prepare for their annual "big"
game with the Southern Oregon
College Red Raiders this weekend.
Saturday afternoon at 1:.10 in
Ashland, the Owls will tangle with
SOC as the feature attraction of
the Red Raider Homecoming fes
tivities. The Owls' chief aim is to spoil
the day for the host club, whether
it's polite or not.
The Tech eleven, fresh from a
25-13 win over Eastern Oregon
here Saturday night, returned to
practice Monday afternoon and de
voted a good bit of the time to
plans neccssarv to put the vaunt
ed SOC Airarm out of commis
sion. Raider quarterback Doug Olson,
a smooth-working sophomore, is
currently leading the Oregon Col
legiate Conference passers, and
his favorite target, end Howard
Hartman is number one in the
receiving department. Both are
expected to be in lop' shape for
the Saturday afternoon battle.
Monday night at the Owl Hoot
meeting in the Broiler, freshman
fullback Harvey Graham, and
frosh tackle Don Vidic were guests
of honor as the outstanding play
ers in the Owl win over SOC.
Each spoke briefly when intro
duced by coach Rex Hunsaker
after short talks by aides George
Miller and Jim Cordial. Cordial's
report dealt with the Portland
Statc-SOC game which he scout
ed in Portland last week.
Graham, a highway technology
major from Grants Pass, com
mented, "We'll give SOC a good
game," then corrected himself,
self, "We'll beat 'em."
Vidic, a machine-shop student,
is a newcomer from Cheswick,
Penn., who expects to continue
his education at OT1 with a course
in tool and die making.
Both were praised by Hunsak
er, not only for commendable ef
forts on the football field, but also
for their application to the aca
demic side of their educations. He
said. "Many people don't realize
just what a football player has to
go through. First, they must at
tend classes six hours a day, then
they must spend two hours on
their assigned jobs, then practice
football two hard hours, and fol
low up with a strenuous ses
sion of homework and study in
the evenings. Actually . . . this
doesn't leave them much time
for frivolities, or even sleep.
The selection of the outstanding
back and lineman will continue
to be a weekly feature of the
Owl Hoot's regular meetings.
1AST
NIGHT
Fight Results
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
San Jose. Calif. Luis Molina.
141. San Jose, knocked out Louis
Garduno. 141i. Mesa. Ariz., 1.
Las Vegas, Nev. Tony Alongi.
197'-4. Hollywood, Fla.. outpointed
Jefferson Davis, 1R84, Las Veg
as. 10.
Caracas, Venezuela Virgil
Akins. St. Louis, stopped Jose
Burgos, Venezuela, 10, welter
weights. Detroit Sonny Banks, 195'a.
Detroit, knocked out Tunney Hun
saker, 197, Fayetteville, W." Va.,
2.
Philadelphia Johnny Alford.
ir.2, Philadelphia, knocked out
Clarence Dews. 162, Washington.
DC, 2.
Chicago Jesse Smith. 150.
Chicago, outpointed Ernie Bur
ford. 154. Memphis. 10.
Paris. France Kennedy Lane.
136. Muskegon. Mich., outpointed
Aissa Hashas. 1.164, Paris. 10.
San Francisco Joe Sullivan vs.
iDave Furch, heavyweight bout.
cancelled.
TENNIS
ROME Nicola Pietrangeli de
feated Jon Douglas and Faustro
Gardini downed Whitney Reed to
wrap up a 4-1 victory for Italy
over the United States in the
Davis Cup inlertone final.
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ROME AP Italy trained' its
sights on Australia and another
crack at the Davis Cup today
while the humiliated United
States began the long wait until
next year.
The Italians after beating the
Americans in the interzone final,
4-1 promptly started Drerjara-
lions for the trip to Australia.
There, in December, the Italians
for the second straight year will
meet Australia in the challenge
round for the most coveted trophy
in international tennis.
Italian tennis officials said they
would probably use 'the same
three men against Australia that
beat the United States: Nicola Pi-
etrangeli. Orlando Sirola, and
Faustro Gardini.
Eugenio Migone. nonplaving
captain of the Italian team, said:
"We have every hope of winning.
It will be close."
The Italians were determined to
do better than last-year, when
they lost to the Australians, 4-1.
David Freed, nonplaving cap-
lain of the U.S.' team, agreed it
would be close, too. He said the
Italians could win if Sirola is in
shape for doubles and Pietrangeli
plays against the Australians--as
he played against the Americans.
Pietrangeli, 28, who has dom
inated European amateur tennis
for the last few ' years, decided
a year ago to join Jack Kramer's
professional troupe. Then he
changed his mind, saying he
wanted to remain an amateur to
help Italy win the Davis Cup.
Without him Italy never would
have beaten the United States. He
won two crucial singles matches,
defeating Whitney Reed of Ala
meda, Calif., and Jon Douglas of
Santa Monica, Calif. He also was
instrumental in giving Italy a
third point, teaming with Orlando
Sirola to beat he American dou
bles team of Donald Dell of Be
thesda, Md., and Reed.'
Gardini won Italy's fourth point
by beating Reed Monday in the
final match after Pietrangeli had
already sewed things up against
Douglas. Douglas provided the
lone American point, defeating
Gardini in the first singles match
last Friday.
Touring Pros
Open Tourney
COSTA MESA. Calif. (API -California's
au t u m n golf trail
swings to the Mesa Verde Coun
try Club Wednesday with the tour
ing professionals aiming at a $20.-
000 purse in the Orange County
Open.
Scheduled to compete are two
Ryder Cup players just back from
Uncle Sam's victory in England,
Capt. Jerry Barber and Billy Cas
per. Jr.
Also entered after undergoing
treatment for a back ailment is
young Doug Sanders.
Eric Monti, playoff winner of
the Ontario Open Sunday, heads
a Southern California contingent
in the 72-hole event over the 6.700
yard course.
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All-Stars
NEW YORK (AP-The 19S1
Associated Press major league
All-Star team listed outfielder
Roger Maris of the New Yorn
Yankees and left-handed pitcher
Warren Spahn as the lone repeat
ers from last season's squad.
The world champion Yanks land,
ed four players on the team
named today in the annual poll of
members of the Baseball writers
Association. They were outfielder
Mickey Mantle, catcher Elston
Howard and shortstop Tony Ku
bek. besides Maris.
mhprc cplpMort nn tht ennart in
'eluded first baseman Norm Casn
of the Tigers, second baseman
Frank Boiling of the Braves,
third baseman Ken Boyer of the
Cards, outfielder Frank Robinson
of the Reds and right-handed
pitcher Joey Jay of the Reds.
Howard, a near unanimous
choice for catcher, polled 156 of
the 171 votes cast. Johnny Rose
boro of the Dodgers was runnerup
with 4. Mantle also was named
on 156 ballots to share top vote
getting honors with Howard.
The keenest competition was the
battle for shortstop between Ku
bck and Maury Wills of the Dodg
ers. Kubek won by 2 voles, 59 to
57. Spahn and Whitey Ford of the
Yanks also waged a close race
for the outstanding southpaw with
Spahn a 20-game winner for the
12th time, prevailing 83 to 78.
Mans, the major league home
run king with 61 and the American
League leader in both runs and
runs batted in, ranked behind
teammates Howard and Mantle in
the vote-getting. Maris was named
on 136 ballots.
Phil Hurler
Says Yankees
'Smari' Club
PHILADELPHIA (AP) - Rob
in Roberts was asked how he felt
toward the New York Yankees,
the only team in major league
baseball willing to take a chance
the right-hander's great career
isn't a thing of the past.
"I would like to think that
they're a smart organization."
said Roberts, 35. beaming from
ear to ear at the thought of pitch
ing for Roger Maris, Mickey Man
tle & Co.
It was a typical Roberts' an
swer, showing the kind of pride,
and competitive spirit Gen. Mgr.
Roy Harney said had prompted
the Yankees to buy the pitcher
from the Philadelphia Phillies for
price believed to be slightly
over the $20,000 waiver figure.
There was no doubt how Roberts
felt about the deal. It was all he
could do to keep from laughing
at the thought of being a Yankee.
Playing with the Yankees is
the only place to be," said the
winner of 234 games he lost 199
in 14 years with the Phillies.
"Any body knows that in base
ball the deal is to win or lose.
I've watched the Yankees win,
and I want to be a part of it."
Roberts, who pitched only two
complete games in 1961, while
winning 1 and losing 10, insists
the Yankees will never regret tak
ing a chance on him.
"I've got three or four more
good years yet," he asserted at
a news conference at which own
er Bob Carpenter of the Phillies
announced the sale.
Harney said in New York the
Yankees felt they had everything
lo gain and nothing to lose in tak
ing Roberts.
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Noted College Quarterbacks
Suffer Trials, Tribulations
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
"Quarterbacks, Their Trials
and Tribulations"
That could well be the subject
for today when some of the na
tion's college football teams get
down to hard work for this Sat
urday's games.
The subjects concerned are
some of the more famous at their
occupations this year.
Sonny Gibbs, the tree-like sig
nal-caller of Texas Christian,
broke three ribs in last Saturday's
loss lo Texas Tech and has been
replaced by soph Gray Mills. Just
before his team's loss to Arkansas
the previous week, Gibbs injured
himself when an airplane loading
ramp collapsed as his team was
getting ready to leave for Little
Rock.
Notre Dame's No. 1 quarter
back, Daryle Lamonica, who has
led the Fighting Irish to a 3-0
season so far, has a badly bruised
ankle but is expected to be ready
for Saturday's crucial game
Mississippi, Michigan State
Head Pollsters' Top Ten Picks
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Michigan State nudged Missis
sippi out as the No. 1 college
football team in the country to
day in the weekly Associated
Press poll.
The margin was by a slim two
points. 01' Miss, in fact, collect
ed more first place votes than
the Spartans. Mississippi had 21
first place to 16 for Michigan
State, which went to the top by
virtue of its impressive 28 0 vie-
, UPI Top Ten
1. Mississippi (17) (4-0)
2. Michigan Stale (14 13-01
3. Texas (2) , 4-0 1
4. Alabama 111 (4-0)
5. Noire Dame (1) (3-0)
6. Iowa (3-0
7. Ohio State (2-0-1)
8. Georgia Tech (3-D
9. Colorado (3-0
308
303
256
225
213
183
165
62
48
36
10. Louisiana Slate (3-1)
Owens Tough
On uwir
SEATTLE (API - Coach Jim
Owens promised his Washington
Huskies "will be ready for Stan
ford" and sent them through a
tough grid drill Monday.
It was short, but it was intense.
Usuaully, Monday is a light day,
but the errors which cost the Hus
kies their 21-14 loss lo California
last Saturday spelled plenty of
work for Washington this week in
preparation for Stanford's visit to
Seattle.
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Falls, Ore.
Tuesday,
against Michigan State. Lamonica
was hurt in last Saturday's 30-0
victory over Southern California,
after also getting hurt the pre
vious week against Purdue.
Iowa's No. 1 quarterback, Wil
burn Hollis, had the cast removed
from his wrist, but coach Jerry
Burns still doesn't expect him to
get back into action until later
this season. Hollis was hurt Oct.
7 against Southern California.
John Hadl, Kansas' Mr. Every
thing, Is feeling fine, and it is
a good thing. Coach Jack Mitchell
said he will continue to use him
at quarterback and left halfback
on offense, and extensively on de
fense. Hadl handled all three roles
in the Jayhawks first victory, 21-7
over Iowa State last week.
Dave Sarette may still be ready
to guide Syracuse against Penn
State in the East's big game this
week. He has a shoulder bruise
that caused him to return home
with his arm in a sling. His sub,
tory over Michigan last Saturday
in the national television game of
the week.
Michigan State finished with 431
points to 429 .for Mississippi. The
nationwide panel of 48 sports
writers and sportscastcrs had
Texas third, Iowa fourth, Ala
bama' fifth, Notre Dame sixth
Ohio State seventh, Georgia Tech
eighth, Colorado ninth and Arkan
sas and Louisiana State tied for
tenth.
Mississippi shows a 4-0 record
following Its easy 47-7 triumph
Machen 3-7
Ring Choice
LONDON (AP) American
heavyweight Eddie Machen goes
into a European ring for the sec
ond time tonight hoping lo do to
Britain's Brian London what Inge-
mar Johansson did to him three
years ago.
In Goteborg, Sweden, in 1958,
the boxer from Redding, Calif.,
got in the way of a vicious right
from the big blond swede after
2 minutes, 16 seconds of the first
round. It was the end of the fight.
That punch earned Johansson a
title fight .with world champion
Floyd Patterson. It put off con
siderably Machen's chance of a
crack at the world title.
Machen, still hpoing for that
fight title, could see his dreams
crash around him if he loses to
night. But he is rated 3-1 favorite
to beat London, former British
champion who has not fought for
more than a year.
October 17, 1961
PAGE I
Bob Lclli, also suffered a hand
fracture in the same game.
Ohio State Coach Woody Hayes
isn't sure who will do the quar
terbacking for him this week
against Northwestern. He indicat
ed it will be either Bill Mrukow-
ski, who has done most of the
work so far, or junior John Mum-
mey, whom he indicated has
drawn even with Mrukowski.
Ron Taylor, Missouri's quarter
back, was listed as one of his
team's dozen injured, and may
not see action against Iowa State
this week.
Baylor's Bears, dumped from
the unbeatens, also were worried
that their two prize Rons Bull
and Goodwin might be absent
when the team meets Texas Tech.
Oklahoma State guard Mike Up
ton will be out indefinitely after
fracturing an ankle while Nebras-,
ka halfback Willie Ross, its high
est scorer, is hobbled with a hip
injury.
over Houston lasl week. Michigan
State has won all three of its
games.
Michigan, No. 6, Baylor, No. 9,
and Maryland, No. 10 a week ago
all tumbled out of the top 10, as
a result of being beaten.
Georgia Tech Colorado, Arkan-
sas and Louisiana State all
jumped into the select circle.
Only Ohio State held the same
spot as a week ago.
AP Top Ten
1. Michigan State (16)
2. Mississippi (21)
431
42
M2
3.10
3. Texas (2)
4. Iowa (2)
5. Alabama (4)
318
2A8
6. Notre Dame (1)
7. Ohio Stale (1)
8. Georgia Tech
9. Colorado
244
77
57
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10. (Tie) Arkansas
Louisiana State
Cougars Test
Enemy Style
PULLMAN, Wash. (AP) -The
Washington State Cougars tested
offense and defense against Indi
ana formations Monday as they
got ready for Saturday's grid con
test with the Hoosiers in Bloom
ington. Tom Erlandson, starting center.
and Blaine Eliot, a guard, are
expected back in the Cougar line
tor the game. Injuries had them
sidelined.
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Tornado la.-t weekend, the Pels
themselves have turned their at
tention to this Friday's assign
ment, the "dark horse'' Spring
field Millers.
Springfield. 4-2 for the season.
has lost only to Rosehurg, 7-6)
and North Bend, and is a definite
threat in its own league. The Mil
ler-Pelican encounter which will
gel underway at 8 p.m. Friday on
Modoc Field, is the final home
appearance scheduled for the Pels.
Reserved seat tickets to the
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Boxing
Twinbill
Studied
NEW YORK (UPI) - Whether
boxing shall have its first closed
circuit TV doublcheader on Dec.
4 will be settled this week at Phil
adelphia.
The three-man Pennsylvania
Athletic Commission will decide
some time this week whether a
proposed Sonny Liston-Albert
Wcstphal fight can be staged at
Philadelphia on the same night as
the Floyd Patterson-Tom McNee-
ley heavyweight title bout, which
was officially signed Monday for
Toronto on Dee. 4.
While challenger McNeeley of
Arlington, Mass., was a luncheon
guest in New York today, atto'-
ney Alfred Klein in Philadelphia,
a member of the Pennsylvania
commission was communicating
with chairman Jim Crowley of
Scranton and attorney Paul Sulli
van of Pittsburgh as to which
would be the best date for their
Philadelphia meeting this week.
Study Listen's Suspension
Their meeting must decide:
Whether Liston of Philadel'
phia, who was top heavyweight!
contender before his indefinite-
suspension on July 15, shall be
reinstated, and
Whether unranked A 1 b e r
Weslphal of Germahy shall be ap
proved as an opponent for Liston
on Dec. 4, in case big Sonny is
reinstated.
Liston was suspended by the
Pennsylvania commission because
of two brushes with the law in
Philadelphia: an arrest for loiter-
ing and an arrest for turning off
his automobile lights to avoid
questioning in a park by the po
lice upon complaint of a woman
driver. He was acquitted of both
charges.
The National Boxing Associa
tion, which concurred In the sus
pension, doubtlessly would rein
state Liston If the Pennsylvania
commission did.
Sign Fight Pact '
At Toronto Monday, champion
Patterson and unbeaten McNeeley
signed contracts for their 15
round title fight in Toronto's Ma
ple Leaf Gardens, Dec. 4.
That fight will be promoted by
Championship Spouts, Inc., cf
New York and Frank Tunney of
Toronto. It will be televised on
closed circuit by Teleprompter
Corp. to theaters and other loca
lions in the United States and
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lhat fans should get their tick
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The Pelican Boosters, the KU
backer's association has planned
a special "Ladies' Nite" meet
ing Wednesday at 6:30 p.m. in die
new banquet room at Die Winema
Hotel All area football fans and
their wives are urged to atlend.
Booster club president Dick Gal
lagher has also extended a spe
cial invitation to players' parents.
wnue the coming Springfield
game preparations are to be dis
cussed by head coach Bob Wil
liams and his staff, he will also
present a commentary on the
Medford-KU game films, a special
feature included on the Wednes
day night program.
Other special entertainment is
also planned for the session, said
Gallagher.
Monday afternoon, after viewing
the film of their big win over
the Tornado, the Pelicans
launched their preparations for
the Muler invasion this weekend.
The first practice placed stress
on game fundamentals, machine
blocking and tackling drills and
particular emphasis was placed
on wind sprints, said Williams.
After checking the performance
of his club as shown on film,
Williams said, "We were espec
ially impressed with the defensive
work displayed by Ron Hitchcock
and Roger Macy. Both were stand-
outs and their work is often over
looked during the progress of the
game ... but it shows up when
one can see the films."
Williams also complimented sen
ior kicking specialist John Ruger
whose talented toe booted the all-
mportant conversion point that
won the game for KU. He said,
"This boy is dedicated he has
worked and worked on kicking . . .
and it is really paying off for
him."
Hitchcock, it was discovered,-
had made the important shoe
string tackle previously credited
to Kent Hunsaker. Hitchcock
was the last man between Med
ford powerhouse George Clearwa
ter and the Pelican goal line.
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